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The Soviet WW3 Plan to Cut Europe in Half - Seven Days to the Rhine 

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Only revealed in 2005, the once top-secret "Seven Days to the River Rhine" allegedly exposed the Warsaw Pact's plan to win a nuclear World War III against the NATO powers boarding the Iron Curtain during the Cold War. In the military simulation, it was thought that NATO would actually be the first to strike, hitting Poland and Czechoslovakia with tactical nuclear weapons in an effort to cut off East Germany in advance of a NATO invasion. To counter, Seven Days to the River Rhine prescribed an aggressive response. Nearly 200 nuclear bombs, including some up to 500-kilotons, would rain down West Germany, Austria, Belgium, the Netherlands, Denmark, and Italy as the Warsaw Pact sought to push the Iron Curtain to the Rhine River...

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@DarkDocs
@DarkDocs 4 года назад
Actually... more of a plan to win WW3 (or end the world) if you think about the consequences of dropping that many nuclear bombs. Don't forget to check out our new Dark Skies video after you watch this one! It is a wild story about when Iraq (allegedly) equipped a Falcon business jet with exocet missiles and (accidentally?) attacked a US warship: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-K7iKxFfadRI.html.
@Idahoguy10157
@Idahoguy10157 4 года назад
Jay Blake .... the combined NATO had enough military force in Europe to prevent a walk over should the Soviets attack. But never enough military strength to go east except as a spoiling attack.
@Studio23Media
@Studio23Media 4 года назад
Nobody wins WW3.
@toastedorange9106
@toastedorange9106 4 года назад
I genuinely wonder what they thought what would happen if the USA got involved in that makeshift nuclear Holocaust. I mean. Look at Japan. I'm not sure Russia would be standing currently.
@Idahoguy10157
@Idahoguy10157 4 года назад
Toasted Orange .... My thought is the Generals and politicians who plan these things think in WW2 terms. That a nuclear weapon is just another, more powerful, explosive. They ignore that once the threshold of nuclear weapons use is crossed the USA and NATO is going to respond and it will escalate to a thousand nuclear bombs being detonated
@peekaboopeekaboo1165
@peekaboopeekaboo1165 4 года назад
@Jay Blake Dark Docs still skirting over Germ warfare by Japan prior and during WW-III.
@craigsmith8217
@craigsmith8217 4 года назад
I can believe it. When stationed in Germany, our orders were to fight a war of attrition with an expected causality rate of 90% in five days. Our commander said that if the flag went up, he'd jump in a jeep and head for Calais.
@Apodeipnon
@Apodeipnon 4 года назад
Well, at least he was honest
@ptonpc
@ptonpc 4 года назад
I interviewed some guys from B.A.O.R about the time they were in Germany during the 80's Some units had a projected lifespan of 15 minutes. They were expected to last just long enough to get a report out before they would be overrun. ((edited for typo)
@pawe6473
@pawe6473 4 года назад
That's the spirit. My father was a soldier in People's Polish Army and he told me as a joke how they were training how to survive nuclear attacks. How he stood still when the NCO asked them to show what to do when the nukes fell and answered to his commander that there is no sense of hiding since atomic blast would kill them instantly, or in suffer due the radiation. My father was shocked when i've shown to him NATO nuclear counter strike planes on Poland due to stop second army groups to pass Vistula and Oder rivers. He told me that's why he left military when the strikes in 1980s have started and joined Solidarność movement because he didn't wanted to live in a world like that and no matter how they could benefit soldiers, it was not worth it.
@Modelstl063
@Modelstl063 4 года назад
What do u mean by the flag goes up
@cakesliealot
@cakesliealot 4 года назад
@@Modelstl063 Probably the flag telling them to attack.
@Shore1985
@Shore1985 4 года назад
Soviets nuke literally half of Europe killing millions of people and eradicating cities from the maps forever Also Soviets: "Boy i hope that doesnt trigger France and the UK"
@KingHalbatorix
@KingHalbatorix 4 года назад
"And their allies" (nervously glances across ocean)
@HOTSHTMAN53
@HOTSHTMAN53 4 года назад
Well, what type of world would it be for a person of the soviet union if there is no soviet union (literally, due to being nuked)? It would only be logical for the soviet union to retaliate. Its like, if a person comes to you and punches you in the nose, you don't bend over with your pants down, you pop the guy.
@Spollekop
@Spollekop 4 года назад
I'm pretty sure the nuclear fallout would be seen as an attack by France and the UK.
@gustini2146
@gustini2146 4 года назад
Lmao
@OppenMinerDev
@OppenMinerDev 4 года назад
To be fair the plan was based on a NATO first strike so by the time the WP dropped them NATO would have already killed millions of poles. Not saying their judgement was realistic, but it makes more sense from their point of view!
@johnharris6655
@johnharris6655 3 года назад
A friend of mine was stationed in Germany in the 80's. He said WW3 would never start on a Monday because US forces and Russian forces were to hung over from the weekend to fight.
@PMW3
@PMW3 4 года назад
the more I learn of the cold war the more that I learn that it was pretty miraculous that a nuclear war didn't break out
@josemartinez-kw2ql
@josemartinez-kw2ql Год назад
I know man especially with the soviets nuclear missile in Cuba in 1962 and the other close call that happen in 1986 or 88 where there was a glitch in one of the soviets nuclear missile forward bases
@jamescaldwell9608
@jamescaldwell9608 Год назад
It's not over yet..
@Likeaworm
@Likeaworm 5 месяцев назад
@@jamescaldwell9608it’s more dangerous than ever actually
@z54964380
@z54964380 4 года назад
This sounds like one of those fancy Imperial Japanese war plans, overly optimistic, underestimating the opposition.
@mr.waffentrager4400
@mr.waffentrager4400 4 года назад
Japanese did not outnumbered it's enemy ... USSR did outnumbered nato in Europe by 2:1 ... Not fantasy
@z54964380
@z54964380 4 года назад
@@mr.waffentrager4400 They assumed there would be still be conventional warfares of any kind between NATO and the Commies, that's definitely a fantasy. Now let's say the EU NATOs were completely obliterated in exchange and the Commies lost a large portion of its forces, cuz let's face it, a allout nuclear exchange between the EU NATOs and the red bloc would definitely kill lots of ppl. What about the NA and Oceania NATOs? What kind of military force could the Commies still muster up after an allout nuclear exchange with the EU NATO? By the time the exchange was over you can be sure that the Americans would be mobilizing or already on its way to nuke the Commie Blocs, what would the Commies do in that scenario?
@gustini2146
@gustini2146 4 года назад
Mr. Waffenträger this plan is definitely on par with 1940’s Empire of Japan’s style of planning. They have the exact same “nothing can stop us” mentality given everything seen from the video except every time you hear “for the emperor!” just substitute it with “for the motherland”
@CNSninja
@CNSninja 4 года назад
Tall Dwarf I think you overestimate most of Russia's enemies (i.e., us.)
@CNSninja
@CNSninja 4 года назад
www.iheart.com/podcast/182-stuff-they-dont-want-you-t-26941221/episode/does-russia-have-a-new-rasputin-42884122/
@ProperLogicalDebate
@ProperLogicalDebate 4 года назад
A quick victory and home by Christmas almost never happens.
@josephboen178
@josephboen178 4 года назад
but with current arsenal , quick victory before finishing 3 bigmacs is possible
@GHustle4
@GHustle4 4 года назад
Crusades 1298 america couldn’t beat the talibam and that went on for 17 years 🤷🏾‍♂️😂 america is WEAK ASF all they have is a navy and air force everything thing else is propaganda
@jessegm1
@jessegm1 4 года назад
@@GHustle4 The entire world has been fighting taliban for decades not just USA. Its hard to fight an enemy that constantly switches sides and identity
@clm652
@clm652 4 года назад
@@GHustle4 Yawn. The US annihilated over 500 thousand jihadists and took just a couple weeks to take Baghdad, Iraq. That's essentially the entire country of a modern military force with bullshit ROE tying the US's hands behind its back and still taking an entire country in a matter of days without really breaking a sweat. Yeah, real weak, LOL. Fking idiot. They also just vaporized over 200 Russian soldiers for basically looking at them wrong in Syria and Putin did......nothing. Scared little bitch. He knows better.
@Old-Dog00
@Old-Dog00 4 года назад
Dude the USA is still there. Wake up. Nobody was home by Christmas. My cousin wasted five years of his life in Iraq.
@claveworks
@claveworks 3 года назад
Ex-RAF engineer here (1976 - 1988) We were *specifically* told to expect attack by the Spetsnaz (Soviet Special Forces) and during exercises we had secondary duties as armed guards and sentries etc. Every RAF station had an SRF (Station Reaction Force) which was a mobile unit in a Land Rover including a guy with a big machine gun (usually me) who drive to any 'hot spot' on the fence and engage anyone breaking in. And while it was (sort of) fun setting up the gun on it's bipod and letting rip with a load of blanks, it was also deadly serious. Alert state was always known and changes rapidly discussed. The big exercise each year (TACEVAL) ended in a nuclear strike scenario. It was assumed *as a matter of course* that every single US base would be hit, along with all RAF active airfields and radar sites etc etc. We wore NBC gear outside for the last day of the three day exercise, and respirators, gloves, boots etc. And tasks were assigned, such repairing damaged network cables and comm links etc. Everyday life was routine, often dull, just like every other engineer/tech, but when the siren sounded it was an instant switch to becoming an armed trooper (if a slightly unfit one lol) and you KNEW the USSR was your enemy. It was ingrained, and the only exception was the IRA when they starting attacking the mainland UK. We *hated* the IRA with a passion, especially following the Hyde Park bombing. That was some evil shit right there, and unforgivable under any circumstances.... I think the only thing I can say with confidence that we could deal with back then was Soviet bombers. We had good radar coverage, extremely good anti-jamming, a good amount of fighters and both long range and short range SAMs. Everything else though? Probably just survival and hope for the best...
@stevenobrien557
@stevenobrien557 20 дней назад
Friend of mine was a lieutenant in the single reserve brigade for BAOR and went to staff exercises. He said that every single exercise where the commander was authorised for nuclear release he had to resort to it, there was absolutely no way they could hold long enough conventionally with what they had.
@claveworks
@claveworks 16 дней назад
@@stevenobrien557 I can believe that - but the 'swarms of tanks crossing the border' thing must be downgraded now. Ukraine has and is continuing to blunt any lightning attacks...
@tomschmitt5262
@tomschmitt5262 4 года назад
4:15 the berlin wall fell on the 9th November 1989, not 1986
@jacobleukus6930
@jacobleukus6930 4 года назад
Tim Smits yeah it bugged me as soon as they said that. I don’t like when videos about history make mistakes like that those aren’t minor
@416loren
@416loren 4 года назад
He makes a lot of these little mistakes. I approach him like Wikipedia - I'm just here for the big picture.
@jacobleukus6930
@jacobleukus6930 4 года назад
416loren yeah that’s how I tend to feel to. Then you got good ol Dr. Felton
@daviddunsmore103
@daviddunsmore103 4 года назад
@@jacobleukus6930 Mark Felton productions are indeed fantastic short documentaries on a variety of subjects, WWII and others. He has a PhD in history, so I put a lot of stock in his excellent work.
@monkeychromosome
@monkeychromosome 4 года назад
EXPOSED EXPOSED
@punman5392
@punman5392 3 года назад
The great irony of the Cold War is that both sides thought the other would strike first. Neither really had any intention of a first strike and both sides were terrified of each other.
@doncarlton4858
@doncarlton4858 3 года назад
During the late seventies and eighties senior members of the Soviet Politburo were absolutely convinced the US intended to launch a massive strategic strike on the USSR and tried to convince Brezhnev that only a Soviet sneak attack could save the USSR from annihilation.
@kiwitrainguy
@kiwitrainguy Год назад
Both the USA and The Soviet Union were victims of sneak/surprise attacks in WW2 (Barbarossa and Pearl Harbor) and that mindset has stayed with them.
@iitzfizz
@iitzfizz 8 месяцев назад
@@kiwitrainguy Also I could always see where the Soviets were coming from especially, since the US had used nukes on Japan.
@richarddecker9515
@richarddecker9515 8 месяцев назад
Too much Saber Rattling
@underconstruction6436
@underconstruction6436 4 года назад
"Alright who's not dead" - Soviet Army officer to Warsaw Pact forces in alternate reality where this plan was carried out.
@sarttee
@sarttee 4 года назад
" whos not a shadow on the concrete " after the initial nuclear strike,
@gierhardtsloan8502
@gierhardtsloan8502 4 года назад
That an atlantis the lost empire reference?
@platinumk17
@platinumk17 4 года назад
Dr strangelove
@Belta-kw2bm
@Belta-kw2bm 4 года назад
Hahahahaha
@davida.elliott1454
@davida.elliott1454 3 года назад
Their was a Germann soldiers found alive in a German supply bunker several years after ww2 ,I would like to see you do that story.
@sebi7mega
@sebi7mega 3 года назад
Never heard of that Story do you have a source?
@jameshammons2354
@jameshammons2354 3 года назад
Actually yes
@RobertLegereIII
@RobertLegereIII 3 года назад
*There
@SlimeyEel
@SlimeyEel 3 года назад
@@RobertLegereIII thanks for helping spell check the interwebs.
@dominicpierce1812
@dominicpierce1812 3 года назад
He did recently make that video... not sure how long ago but it is out there.
@jack6539
@jack6539 4 года назад
"Battle plans rarely survive the first main engagement by the enemy" - Helmuth von Moltke the elder circa mid 1800s
@eric4681702
@eric4681702 4 года назад
That quote is from Brian McCorny (Ltd Col US Army cavelry)
@BramGaunt
@BramGaunt 4 года назад
@@eric4681702 No, it's from Moltke. Look it up.
@eric4681702
@eric4681702 4 года назад
@@BramGaunt McCorny said it first
@parsatayebi7652
@parsatayebi7652 4 года назад
@@eric4681702 Brian McCorny? I can't even find anything about him. Can you link a website?
@AllFormsElectronic
@AllFormsElectronic 4 года назад
Yup and then you throw nuclear bombs into the picture and now you don’t even have humans to look at the battle plans to begin with lol. 😳
@supernoodles91
@supernoodles91 4 года назад
Anybody , such as myself that was a teenager in the 1980's, had a true fear of nuclear Armageddon, for those watching that weren't, watch the British film called 'Threads'. To this day it's terrifying.
@davidconn3222
@davidconn3222 3 года назад
thanks for the info,I will watch it
@paulohagan3309
@paulohagan3309 3 года назад
@@davidconn3222 Be ready for possible depression. The grimmest version of nuclear war ever. The Brits do pessimism really well.
@dave_s_vids
@dave_s_vids Год назад
That film will never leave the back of my mind!
@kiwitrainguy
@kiwitrainguy Год назад
Never mind Dracula, Frankenstein, The Mummy, The Wolf Man and all those others. For the scariest Horror movie ever watch Threads.
@whatsreal7506
@whatsreal7506 Год назад
"The Day After" is a good movie about post nuclear war...
@LocalDeepstateAgent
@LocalDeepstateAgent 4 года назад
7 days to the river rhine was about as realistic as every 6th graders plan to get rich.
@LS-rw9yp
@LS-rw9yp 3 года назад
I see information is your kryptonite...
@kiwitrainguy
@kiwitrainguy Год назад
Except that 6th Graders don't have access to Nuclear Weapons (we hope!).
@LocalDeepstateAgent
@LocalDeepstateAgent Год назад
@@kiwitrainguy Even if they did so would others so if a 6th grader would decide to throw nukes to get their way they'wd get nukes thrown at them in return
@Brian6587
@Brian6587 Год назад
😂good one. The Soviet plan would backfire. They would have vastly underestimated NATO’s resolve in my opinion.
@TheMormonGuy-ph
@TheMormonGuy-ph 6 месяцев назад
Yeah there plan would get halted in somewhere let's say Dortmund
@mikewolloschek5107
@mikewolloschek5107 4 года назад
Switzerland just sitting in the middle of everything...
@uncbadguy
@uncbadguy 4 года назад
I am a veteran of the cold war. The cold war kept me in work for twenty years. I was assigned to the 762nd Radar Squadron at N. Truro AFS MA. During an exercise that was a planed for our response to a Soviet nuclear attack; I saw a document that showed the Soviet plan for Boston MA nuclear bombing targets. The document NAMED the technical and manufacturing companies, in the Boston area. I'm sure every major city in America had a similar document. There were Eleven HUNDRED aim points in Boston. Ponder the concept!!
@fordson51
@fordson51 2 года назад
Ironic I find this comment here. I work around Boston and out on the Cape with my job. Targets today would probably be more with how many tech companies are in the metro area with links back to US military and government. Really interesting to think about with current world events.
@uncbadguy
@uncbadguy 2 года назад
@@fordson51 It was pretty much all the tech companies back then too.
@chrishenniker5944
@chrishenniker5944 7 месяцев назад
I bet the documents also named ideological targets, like Harvard, Yale, museums, cathedrals, etc.
@Kyle-uu4mr
@Kyle-uu4mr 4 года назад
Nukes all of Europe USSR: "The US probably won't retaliate" Remembers the US leveled Japan over some boats USSR: "uhhh hopefully?"
@Its_Me_Romano
@Its_Me_Romano 4 года назад
Yes but those where their boats not eu boats
@longsweep1
@longsweep1 4 года назад
@@Its_Me_Romano It's a horror scenario
@benchmach2477
@benchmach2477 4 года назад
tsar bomba the United Shits
@Kyle-uu4mr
@Kyle-uu4mr 4 года назад
@@benchmach2477 run along, child
@benchmach2477
@benchmach2477 4 года назад
@@Kyle-uu4mr nice comeback
@pawe6473
@pawe6473 4 года назад
My father was a soldier in People's Polish Army and he told me as a joke how they were training how to survive nuclear attacks. How he stood still when the NCO asked them to show what to do when the nukes fell and answered to his commander that there is no sense of hiding since atomic blast would kill them instantly, or in suffer due the radiation. The army were even training special sapper groups to defuse tactical nukes hidden in West Germany in a strategic places like bridges, valleys, conjuctions. My father was shocked when i've shown to him NATO nuclear counter strike planes on Poland due to stop second army groups to pass Vistula and Oder rivers. He told me that's why he left military when the strikes in 1980s have started and joined Solidarność movement because he didn't wanted to live in a world like that and no matter how they could benefit soldiers, it was not worth it.
@allenschmitz9644
@allenschmitz9644 4 года назад
solidarity for virus diapers is mandatory fool speak...new normal.
@doncarlton4858
@doncarlton4858 3 года назад
Also if you worked in a Polish rail yard, you'd be toast!
@sillyone52062
@sillyone52062 3 года назад
I was there-U.S. Army 1981-1984. When I arrived, we weren't ready, by the time I left, we had all of the tools we needed. Thanks to Ronald Reagan.
@TheLAGopher
@TheLAGopher 3 года назад
The "Reagan Era" defense buildup was actually started by Jimmy Carter in 1980 after the Russian invasion of Afghanistan ended the Detente Era. Had Eagle Clawfreed the Iran hostages, Carter would have gotten a second term, and the US arms buildup would have still happened.
@PantsofVance
@PantsofVance 3 месяца назад
@@TheLAGopher Carter was annihilated by Reagan, there's no way an Eagle Claw success would have turned the tides that much
@retiredcolonel6492
@retiredcolonel6492 3 года назад
I was stationed in Nuremberg from 1980-83. We were under no illusions. Our forces would only serve as a speed bump for the massive Soviet assault. Our hope was that if we could delay a couple of weeks we could gather enough NATO forces to stop the Soviets. But as this video shows, the Soviets planned to be at the Rhine bridges in a week. I’m glad that never happened for both sides. Still, I still occasionally remember the briefings from back then and a small shudder runs down my back. Reagan stared down Gorbachev and the Berlin Wall fell. It’s hard to believe we now have US Forces in Poland, Czech Republic and the Baltic Nations and that a permanent base is being considered for Poland. Hard to believe. But I worry about us putting our forces in the traditional Russian sphere of influence.
@pozzee2809
@pozzee2809 2 года назад
And fast forward to today Putin invades Ukraine and no one is helping them, not even air support. Meanwhile children are being murdered and still the world watches. If we won’t help Now, then When?
@tb-cg6vd
@tb-cg6vd Год назад
I think it was more a case of Gorby knew the USSR was bankrupt and the nuclear thing was a mega-disaster in the making; Ronnie was honest enough to want to get rid of them too rather than staring down Gorby (unlike the military & Pentagon who watered down Reagan's ideas - they're never going to give up having the biggest stick in the playground!).
@scottn7cy
@scottn7cy 4 года назад
The irony is that the prevailing winds would likely have brought the fallout east leaving the entire eastern bloc as a irradiated wasteland.
@hilldoggydogg635
@hilldoggydogg635 3 года назад
7.5 MegaTons was planned, that is not that much, the Soviet's lit off a 57 KT bomb in the arctic.
@Will-tm5bj
@Will-tm5bj 2 года назад
Soviet leadership was never known for their foresight
@Brian6587
@Brian6587 Год назад
@@Will-tm5bj lol so true
@tb-cg6vd
@tb-cg6vd Год назад
@@hilldoggydogg635 57MT, you're out by 1000. Which makes a difference I believe.
@email4664
@email4664 4 года назад
The slower reading pace is appreciated, as are your pauses. Thank you. It really improves the overall experience one has while enjoying your informative and rather compelling videos.
@SergeantSnafu
@SergeantSnafu 4 года назад
Am I only one that read plane in the title and watched the whole video waiting to see the Tupolev Tu-95 that’s is in the thumbnail...
@Shadowfax-1980
@Shadowfax-1980 4 года назад
It’s interesting that they were going to after Austria even though it’s not a member of NATO
@Shore1985
@Shore1985 4 года назад
*sad austrian noises
@email5023
@email5023 4 года назад
Maybe it was "in the way" and it was easier to invade and go through it & not around it to get to West Germany.
@INSANESUICIDE
@INSANESUICIDE 4 года назад
Any ideas or opinions as to why they went for Austria?
@cabin_fever
@cabin_fever 4 года назад
@@INSANESUICIDE it was there and the soviets would have gladly had it for themselves pretty much the soviet thinking "take over the world sergei"
@uio890138
@uio890138 4 года назад
Yes, because Patton was well aware of how the Soviets thought. He wanted to end the issue early, but here we are 75 years later still dealing with the assholes. I would have green lighted him.
@WCWThunderRosa
@WCWThunderRosa 4 года назад
“I do not know what weapons will be used in World War 3; I do know that World War 4 will be fought with sticks and stones.”
@bryantc2899
@bryantc2899 4 года назад
The Bible tells us that. Fought on horseback, with swords.
@jaquinhelp7298
@jaquinhelp7298 4 года назад
Unless we go full metro and use scrap metal to build portable weapons *hints at sten*
@m1a1abramstank49
@m1a1abramstank49 3 года назад
Idk, there’s more than enough surplus of weapons for us to use if that’s the case
@doncarlton4858
@doncarlton4858 3 года назад
Albert Einstein
@paulohagan3309
@paulohagan3309 3 года назад
Assuming the survivors have the strength to lift the sticks and stones ...
@thejudgmentalcat
@thejudgmentalcat 4 года назад
"He'll burn the world if he can be king of the ashes"
@ABW941
@ABW941 4 года назад
Thats from where?
@thejudgmentalcat
@thejudgmentalcat 4 года назад
@@ABW941 Game of Thrones (show). Someone was describing Littlefinger.
@dx1450
@dx1450 3 года назад
You're talking about Trump, right?
@glowingone1774
@glowingone1774 3 года назад
@@dx1450 always bringing him up. Are you still around I heard TDS is fatal
@stonefox9124
@stonefox9124 3 года назад
"I'd rather be puppet to the worst than lead the best" ~Joe Biden~
@unclecaravan
@unclecaravan 4 года назад
It honestly blows me away how entertaining this channel is; the production, footage, and depth of research of these videos is top notch
@LukeVilent
@LukeVilent Год назад
Yep, Seven Days to Rhine, Three Days to Kyiv... what could possibly go wrong?
@patrickkavanagh5335
@patrickkavanagh5335 4 года назад
Well I was in Germany in the 80s. The Russian I met told me half of there men would not show up for this kind of thing . Because there equipment was junk. So we got drunk and had a Fantastic time with them.
@patrickkavanagh5335
@patrickkavanagh5335 4 года назад
@Slawa Wacker you have no idea what you are talking about. Russian vehicles have always been junk. Do your research before calling someone a liar ashole
@johnkonrad5040
@johnkonrad5040 4 года назад
Same could be said about the American forces stationed in Europe. Almost every conversation I've had with fellas who took part in Exercise Reforger usually commented on how much of a mess it was.
@patrickkavanagh5335
@patrickkavanagh5335 4 года назад
@@johnkonrad5040 it was a shit show most of the time.
@ABW941
@ABW941 4 года назад
@@patrickkavanagh5335 I disagree, they have not been junk, but they have barely ever been kept in good working order in large numbers. If parts are not available, and you have organized production through a hardly working economy, maintenance becomes a problem (see North Korea). The GDR had better working equipement since they were doing a bit better than the rest of the WP.
@patrickkavanagh5335
@patrickkavanagh5335 3 года назад
@J H just look at the university's absolutely no critical thinking going on. And now they are in charge.
@j.peters1222
@j.peters1222 4 года назад
Nobody would win in this outcome. Humanity would cease to exist.
@TheRed4123
@TheRed4123 4 года назад
@tvercetti1 there is no such thing as an anti matter warhead
@mrhorrorgaming6909
@mrhorrorgaming6909 4 года назад
Tin Man I’m not sure which would be worse, being killed by nukes, or surviving and living the remainder of a horrible life until dying of radiation or some other awful shit
@justafnaffan2.016
@justafnaffan2.016 4 года назад
South America, Africa, Parts of Asia: *Am I a joke to you*
@sid2112
@sid2112 4 года назад
We would survive. We are a pretty hardy and resourceful species when it comes down to it. Some would survive and after a number of decades even thrive again. Humans are pretty adaptable and more importantly, lucky.
@tjsdapimp
@tjsdapimp 4 года назад
Yeah humans have “tested” 100s of nukes all across the world and were not dead yet. 25 in that small of an area would be pretty bad though but humanity would survive
@assajventress3204
@assajventress3204 4 года назад
To the spies of russia who im sure can see this, as lovely as your nuclear idea is, you jave forgotten a simple law of nature called the western meridian wind. When you drop those nukes the worlds air flow moves around the globe coing from the west, so when the fallout from all those 200 bombs hits the upper aircurrents it is going to quite literally drop all the fallout right onto moscow in a month or so. Just thought id point that out.
@yegorgribenuke6853
@yegorgribenuke6853 4 года назад
@Loko Mike They stopped claiming that when M1 was declassified.
@xKuukkelix
@xKuukkelix 4 года назад
It's interesting to see how bith sides believed the other side is going to make the first strike
@TheLtData
@TheLtData 4 года назад
I did my military service in 1992 and we were still trained to handle nuclear/biological/chemical warfare situations. Our military handbook (still have it) contains lots of instructions for recognisins Warsaupact vehicles, planes, uniforms, arms etc. Guards at the army base were armed all day. And till today every week Russian Bears enter European airspace to test vigilance and response. I think the threath is never far away.
@cnfuzz
@cnfuzz 4 года назад
The tu95 bear bomber does not fly anymore since mid 90s , its the tu142 reconnaissance version that sometimes tests nato airspace
@ryanjohnstone9762
@ryanjohnstone9762 4 года назад
@@cnfuzz The tu-95 still tests British airspace quite frequently actually, and they could still serve for many years to come.
@petr7694
@petr7694 4 года назад
There was no WarPac in 1992...
@TheLtData
@TheLtData 4 года назад
@@petr7694 The handbook we had predated 1989 ; )
@tomjoseph1444
@tomjoseph1444 4 года назад
Sounds like more of a "throw everything we got at them" than an actual plan. I was on the East German border for most of the early 80's. Things got a bit tense more than just a few times. It is more interesting to look at their plan for a first strike which includes the airborne assault of Rhine Main AFB and such so that after the first flights of the USAF they would not have bases to return to. I was in the Fulda Gap and we expected approx. 30 divisions to come through. Our mission was to drive east and cause as much havoc as possible with no RTB.
@vonvomit5666
@vonvomit5666 4 года назад
I was stationed in Germany from 1983 to 1984, and from 1985 to 1989. No one knows just how close things were to starting WW3. I was stationed in field artillery battalions both times. There was huge protests against American perishing 2 missiles and lance missiles being station stationed in Germany. The protest happened a few times right up to when I left in 1989. What the Germans didn't know was conventional tubes artillery was nuclear weapons capable. Scary times indeed.
@BR14Nx
@BR14Nx 4 года назад
And most germans still don't like that they(me included) have american nuclear warheads on our home soil
@gustini2146
@gustini2146 4 года назад
Ken Shearson damned if we do damned if we don’t
@nuutine
@nuutine 4 года назад
My teacher said that WW3 was so close that the first soviet fighter jets were on highway. He was a good teacher for sure.
@CM-ve1bz
@CM-ve1bz 2 года назад
@@BR14Nx According to the nuclear share agreement the Americans don't control nor can they use the weapons. Only Germany can use them.
@YuureiInu
@YuureiInu 4 года назад
It was called Seven Days to the Rhine because that's how much time ground forces would have before dying from radiation poisoning XD
@zzbudzz
@zzbudzz 4 года назад
Or their equipment broke down completely
@KimKhan
@KimKhan 3 года назад
You joke, but it was also a calculation that 50% of all Polish soldiers (they were of course sent in first) would be casualties from combat losses AND radiation poisoning within 2 weeks of combat.
@nekotyto718
@nekotyto718 4 года назад
The boogaloo almost happened so many times its amazing we are still alive
@thefightisalwaysfixed8890
@thefightisalwaysfixed8890 4 года назад
Covid 19 has entered the chat.
@juliusrody9833
@juliusrody9833 4 года назад
the boog is a situation of mass civil unrest
@KillingDeadThings
@KillingDeadThings 4 года назад
4:14 Berlin wall didn't officially come down until 90-91 and practically fell in 89. West Germany won the World Cup in 90.
@2dtorus
@2dtorus 3 года назад
Hey i noticed too lol
@th3b0yg
@th3b0yg 4 года назад
The Berlin Wall fell in '89. Just saying. I remember it. I wasn't in Berlin, but, like everyone else, I watched it happening on TV.
@pavegray
@pavegray 4 года назад
I remember watching the Berlin Wall fall on television - I was 6. I will never forget that day.
@ABW941
@ABW941 4 года назад
They got a couple of things wrong, including some pictures.
@chrismanning1746
@chrismanning1746 3 года назад
I was nineteen at that time I remember you could buy pieces of the wall
@BenjaminMarshallScienceMan
@BenjaminMarshallScienceMan 3 года назад
The soviets almost certainly never intended to execute this plan. I'm also positive that the western allies had their own counterpart to this plan. Being militarily prepared means having a plan for dispatching any potential foe.
@stashaszezlenko9601
@stashaszezlenko9601 4 года назад
A couple of good reads on the subject from a western point of view are "The Third World War August 1985" & "The Untold Story The Third World War" both by General Sir John Hackett. Published in the late '70's early '80's, it portrays the more likely scenario of a conventional conflict, initiated by the Warsaw Pact, and the ultimately successful western response. It is out of print, however, they were quite popular at time of release & used copies are to be had.
@email5023
@email5023 4 года назад
I read that book years ago.
@leonardmichaelmarkrandrup2375
@leonardmichaelmarkrandrup2375 2 года назад
It is a good read. I was lucky enough to buy a copy in a second hand book store here in the Philippines.
@Atesz222
@Atesz222 4 года назад
Russia when the Poles reveal this plan: *NOW WE HAVE TO MAKE A NEW ONE, BLYAT!*
@alfredcollins3944
@alfredcollins3944 3 года назад
Russia 1979: We're going to smash through Europe in a week. Russia 1989: Crumpled like a souffle without firing a shot.
@soldierski1669
@soldierski1669 3 года назад
The 80's were great.
@samrussell9264
@samrussell9264 4 года назад
The use of language is interesting: just as the Viet Minh was called the 'Viet Cong' to make it seem more malevolent, the 'Warsaw Pact' was used to imply something dark and sinister, as opposed to an ' Organisation'. In reality, the USA effectively controlled all nuclear weapons in the European theatre ( apart from the French) through the ' dual key' protocol. In the event of a warPact* invasion, the use of nuclear weapons would probably be on a 'use it or lose it' mentality. The significant differences were that stated US protocol was that Tactical nuclear use could be restricted and controlled ( ie: lose Europe), whereas Soviet mentality was ' nuclear is nuclear' ( ie: once you've crossed the threshold, there's no turning back). The important factor is that Soviet domination of Europe was a constructed myth: Russia has always put security of the Motherland first, not Imperialism. All Soviet gains after WWII were to form a buffer between the States that kept invading and Russia itself.
@johnburt7935
@johnburt7935 4 года назад
The primary battle plans of both sides were written for retaliating against an enemy attack. In other words, they had indeed reached the same conclusion as the computer WOPR: the only winning move is not to play.
@X.Y.Z.07
@X.Y.Z.07 2 года назад
The MAD scenario
@billjamison2877
@billjamison2877 3 года назад
The soviets were absolutely insane to consider an attack like this. What would the soviets gain by doing this? It would create a nuclear wasteland prohibiting any type of occupation by their armies. What the hell were the rooskies thinking? Insanity in its purist form. Maybe General Patten was correct during WW II. Take the war all the way to Moscow when we had the chance back in 1945.
@nofrackingzone2.057
@nofrackingzone2.057 4 года назад
The reason it didn’t happen was logistics. The Soviets didn’t have the capacity to win such an engagement. The Russian military was large but poorly organized, feed and equipped. The Warsaw Pact would likely collapse/be unwilling to cooperate.
@NorceCodine
@NorceCodine 4 года назад
Once I talked to a guy who was stationed in West Germany, he said that they were a 'speed bump' if war broke out. Yep, spirits were high.
@doncarlton4858
@doncarlton4858 3 года назад
In an interview in the late seventies NATO Supreme Commander Gen. Alexander Haig admitted US troops in Europe were a "Strategic Tripwire". Meaning large casualties among US Forces in Europe would have triggered a massive strategic strike of bombers, ICBMs and submarine launched missiles against the USSR
@pop5678eye
@pop5678eye 3 года назад
Sounds like the Soviet version of Operation Able Archer.
@notmenotme614
@notmenotme614 4 года назад
Tom Clancy's book Red Storm Rising is about this scenario. Interestingly Clancy reckons the war would start because of Soviets needing to capture more oil. Very good book that's worth a read. I also read claims that the conscripts from the other Warsaw Pacts countries outside of Russia wouldn't have had the desire or appetite to fight and probably wouldn't have done much.
@trevorbylsma123
@trevorbylsma123 2 года назад
fantastic book!
@Yunghank59
@Yunghank59 Год назад
Except the Soviets main trade source was oil and this still is the main trade source for Russia today so that’s just stupid
@kiwitrainguy
@kiwitrainguy Год назад
@@Yunghank59 Exactly, the major reason Hitler went in to the Caucuses was for the oil in Baku.🛢🛢🛢🛢⛽⛽
@billgund4532
@billgund4532 4 года назад
I'm re-reading Tom Clancy's "Red Storm Rising. " Written in 1986, it's really ironic to see how far technology has progressed. Still a great read.
@patrickhughes8164
@patrickhughes8164 4 года назад
Bill Gund. That is such a great read. I have read that story many times, Clancy was a master storyteller and his attention to detail was amazing. It always hit home for me since I was stationed in Germany in the 70s.
@doncarlton4858
@doncarlton4858 3 года назад
The late Tom Clancy was one of the few people outside the A-10 community that realized what the Warthogs would do to massed Soviet armored formations over a decade before Desert Storm.
@EllieMaes-Grandad
@EllieMaes-Grandad 3 года назад
The current books in that franchise are still worth reading . . .
@francisebbecke2727
@francisebbecke2727 3 года назад
I was a US soldier stationed in Germany in the late 1970s and early 1980s. Was an invasion possible? Yes. Likely? No. The Soviets were many things but suicidal and stupid were not among them. Remember they had lost 25 million in WW II. NATO and the US was much more powerful than Germany was in WW II. NATO also had many, many nuclear weapons of their own. Soviet and Warsaw Pack outnumbered us by quite a bit. Remember Israel was outnumbered by about the same ratios in the 1973 war but successfully defended itself without nuclear weapons.
@Herb..StateOfGeorgiaOwnsFSU
@Herb..StateOfGeorgiaOwnsFSU 4 года назад
So pretty much, Soviets didn’t think the French had the stomach to fight. 😂
@moremoneyfordreadnoughts1100
@moremoneyfordreadnoughts1100 4 года назад
Nor were they necessarily ideological enemies. NATO being saddled with DeGaulle was a point in the Soviet's favor.
@SupesMe
@SupesMe 4 года назад
It's interesting how both sides thought that the other would pull the trigger first. That the other side was the aggressor. It makes the whole Cold War just seem like fear and misunderstanding :(
@Simonsvids
@Simonsvids 4 года назад
Throughout history, Russia has always been fearful of invasion from the west, with good reason. Think Napoleon.
@Yunghank59
@Yunghank59 Год назад
@@Simonsvids Hitler Sweden Poland turkey
@johnnydepalma4982
@johnnydepalma4982 4 года назад
No better feeling than seeing a Dark Docs video that says "___ MINUTES ago"
@noxDOTevolvedDOTgmai
@noxDOTevolvedDOTgmai 4 года назад
Warpack's wet dream, the Fulda Gap.
@frankrenda2519
@frankrenda2519 4 года назад
is the usa still paying the taliban in afganistan to not shot at us soldiers.were you american wet dream now.
@phlvn100
@phlvn100 4 года назад
svenuu go back playing war thunder
@chaddog313
@chaddog313 4 года назад
@@frankrenda2519 if the taliban was smart they'd just stop shooting at us and accept the payments
@charms1vp
@charms1vp 4 года назад
2 great fictional novels wrt conventional WW3 are Team Yankee by Harold Coyle and Red Army by Ralph Peters. US & Soviet perpectives.
@notmenotme614
@notmenotme614 4 года назад
Red Storm Rising by Tom Clancy is also good. A lot of it is about the Soviet invasion of Germany. I liked how Clancy described how the tactics would work, for example the Soviet Airforce overwhelming the US Navy defences with mass missile strikes.
@doncarlton4858
@doncarlton4858 3 года назад
Tom Clancy's Red Storm Rising is great too (go Warthogs!)
@Gloopular
@Gloopular 4 года назад
200 nuclear weapons ? - what would there be to 'win' after that ?
@Morrigi192
@Morrigi192 4 года назад
More you think, but far less than what's acceptable.
@teddy.d174
@teddy.d174 4 года назад
And the world would’ve never been the same. Imagine all of the fallout and resulting radiation. I can’t tell you enough, how much I enjoy your channels “Dark Guy”...👍🏻👍🏻
@uncletimo6059
@uncletimo6059 4 года назад
warsaw pact changed nothing except cosmetics i.e. propaganda. "it was meant as a counterbalance to western NATO alliance" LOL, NO son. NATO was a defensive alliance versus the communist armies which ALL were commanded from Moscow. For example, in a real war, People's Polish Army units would be integrated into Soviet Union's armies and corps. ALSO: soviet retaliation for attack = look up Finland in 1940 or the Gleiwitz Incident in 1939.
@spergelord8401
@spergelord8401 4 года назад
"NATO was a defensive alliance" at that point your entire argument became a joke
@HELESPONTify
@HELESPONTify 4 года назад
In Afghan War only Soviet units go, without Warsaw member, In Usa fucking intervention in Irak, Afghan, go, member of Nato, dont be funny, Nato Bandits not defensive organisation is true Evil
@arianas0714
@arianas0714 4 года назад
@@HELESPONTify NaTo BaNdiTs eViL
@ARandomHandle214
@ARandomHandle214 4 года назад
Well, that’s not something that you learn in school, or in online class.
@mezarisage6055
@mezarisage6055 3 года назад
This would make an awesome setting for an alt history videogame.
@JohnJohansen2
@JohnJohansen2 4 года назад
I've been sitting here for a while, trying to figure out what to write. I guess the only thing is, that I'm glad not to have known at that time.
@zacharyfreeman5237
@zacharyfreeman5237 3 года назад
It seem that every 5 or 6 years from the late '50s to the early 90's there was some kind of minor incident that could have resulted in WWIII if not for the grace of god or plain old dumb luck.
@MrDlt123
@MrDlt123 4 года назад
Got news for you: There are an infinite number of 'plans' drawn up for many scenarios that never happen.
@diggingattycho7908
@diggingattycho7908 4 года назад
Yep, the Soviet plans were all going to end in victory. Or the author will enjoy a fun filled vacation in Siberia.
@robertbabcock4014
@robertbabcock4014 3 года назад
I l served during that era. It was a very scarey time.
@EMNemesis
@EMNemesis 4 года назад
If this happens, it would be like World in Conflict scenario... Scary
@ArchangelExile
@ArchangelExile 3 года назад
In an alternate universe, this actually happened.
@g.a.c.4139
@g.a.c.4139 3 года назад
Somehow, the "duck and cover" exercises that we as children practiced under our desks in grade school seem wholly inadequate.
@rollog1248
@rollog1248 4 года назад
Yeah the Warsaw Pact was somehow unable to comprehend MAD, if they used tactical nukes the US will use all of theirs. The most probably would've been a conventional invasion engagement with orbital bombardment from shuttles.
@SC0RCH3er
@SC0RCH3er 4 года назад
There was quite common belief (here in former Czechoslovakia) that Soviets would use ČSLA (=Czechoslovak People Army) as sort of a meatshield for their proper assault and that this plan was only a "motivational plan" for the satelite states while the real(=more realistic) plan was only know to the Soviet Red Army. The thing you need to understand about comunism is that it does not matter if it is realistic or properly planned, it just has to sound really good (or not as bad) so your supperior can pass the good results to his supperior and so on... There was a former military area next to my town which was as I learned was to be used as firing possition for short range missiles targeting places in Bavaria...
@sisyphusvasilias3943
@sisyphusvasilias3943 4 года назад
No its just the realistic expectation that Czechs would lie down and pretend to be carpet, as usual.
@SC0RCH3er
@SC0RCH3er 4 года назад
@@sisyphusvasilias3943 Ah typical youtube comments, mention your nationality expect someone to shit on it, oh well...
@Hidensee
@Hidensee 4 года назад
NATO defence plans: Do not make me hurt you more Warpack: Try something i will beat you to nuclear hell.
@jasonvalentine2753
@jasonvalentine2753 4 года назад
This is extremely interesting stuff. Thank you.
@maninthemiddleground2316
@maninthemiddleground2316 4 года назад
Hmmm 🤔 ... i think this is a flawed plan. This grossly underestimates NATO and more importantly US (re)actions. This plan is very slow to need 7 days. If this is supposedly a battleplan to counter a NATO invasion. Why would NATO or US forces act in such a limited way. If the US plans a first strike it would be a decapitation strike. If this is the case then it wouldn’t need 7 days. It will be all over 1 day. Tops. Also if we assume that this plan would be initiated by Warsaw pact / USSR would strike first they should plan for decapitation also. As it will be assured that NATO and US will hit them with everything they’ve got.
@michaelmerrell8540
@michaelmerrell8540 4 года назад
Probably one of many, many scenarios planned for. In this case, "what if NATO decided to reunify Germany, and used tactical nukes?"
@tieck4408
@tieck4408 4 года назад
Everything we've got isn't enough to turn even one country to glass. Plenty of people/assets would inevitably survive as the plan seems to imagine. Take Texas. Goodbye Huston, Dallas, Austin. Then what? A giant, hot Vietnam with tacos and cancer.
@jozopako
@jozopako 4 года назад
That is why doctrine of absolute retaliation existed. Soviets even had Systema Perimetr which could launch nuclear warheads if whole Soviet Union would be dead. US would need to think twice if they want to attack a target which can launch nuclear rockets from grave.
@redeye--2753
@redeye--2753 4 года назад
NATO, as far as I know, always was determined to go in full if it had to come to a nuclear strike. Destroy the enemys possibility to retaliate as much as you can. This plan would never succeed.
@doncarlton4858
@doncarlton4858 3 года назад
@@jozopako If these "deadhand" devices existed at the time, the US was completely unaware of them. As Dr Strangelove said " the whole idea of a 'Doomsday Device is useless IF YOU KEEP IT A SECRET!"
@michaelorekyeh6431
@michaelorekyeh6431 3 года назад
The plans were devastating and swift. One never realized how much of a knife edge everything was sitting on till you watch documentaries like this
@azazzelx
@azazzelx 4 года назад
fascinating details about our past that shouldnt be forgotten...
@NorceCodine
@NorceCodine 4 года назад
Britain and France would have been pummeled by dozens of ICBM-s directly from the Soviet Union or submarines, thats why they were not included in the Warsaw Pact ground attack plan anymore. Watch the movie "Threads" on youtube, Britain was one of the hardest target in the Cold War.
@youtubecreator950
@youtubecreator950 4 года назад
I've never heard of copenhogan before, is it close to Copenhagen.......
@sawmill123456
@sawmill123456 4 года назад
Everybody has a plan until they get hit in mouth. Mike Tyson!
@notmenotme614
@notmenotme614 4 года назад
8:28 Oddly specific. I wonder why the Soviets didn't target Rome, Milan and Turin?
@knmaherijayatp8181
@knmaherijayatp8181 4 года назад
maybe because they knew italy would switch side like in the first 2 world wars?
@montagepl
@montagepl 4 года назад
Those revelation first came to be known many years before thanks to general Kukliński. He was a Polish General that escaped to USA and he was the first one to tell the West what was Russians atomic plans against West.
@macbuff81
@macbuff81 4 года назад
Great documentaries like this one show just how close humanity came to voluntarily ending itself. It also puts things like the current pandemic in proper context
@leevihalme4615
@leevihalme4615 4 года назад
Seven Days to The River Rhine - sounds like a good name for a video game, tv show or movie 🤓
@MaciekP2
@MaciekP2 4 года назад
Strange, Kuklinski was not mentioned here
@run2fire
@run2fire 4 года назад
MaciekP2 yep. Jack Strong is a good movie about him too
@peterburgess5974
@peterburgess5974 4 года назад
Just a small note, the Berlin Wall fell in 1989 not in 1986. I really like your content. Keep up the good work.
@ryanm.191
@ryanm.191 4 года назад
That thumbnail really shows the true scale of the bear The f4 isn’t a small jet either
@nathankaye1577
@nathankaye1577 4 года назад
These mini documentaries are brilliantly made, I love them 👍
@Chrischi4598
@Chrischi4598 4 года назад
It’s interesting to see how stupid soviet Leadership actually was... just the thought that, A: The US wouldn’t retaliate at such a massive nuclear strike B: The Russian Air Force and Navy would be able to fight Europe’s and American Air Forces and Navy’s. The US is unbeatable on the seas since WW2. And in the Air the West also had technological and numerical advantage. C: That in the 80s the Russians would be able to conquer Europe with desolate equipment All in all it’s good that the USSR did collapse. You would have just needed one madman that is even more paranoid then most the other madmen, and we all would have lived in a nuclear wasteland!
@RAKITHA9
@RAKITHA9 4 года назад
I've read that the u.s.s.r basically lost its nuclear edge after the 80s thanks to Reagan ,upto then , there Soviets were very confident in having a balanced m.a.d deterrence,but after the 80s it was all downhill for the russians
@mattstead387
@mattstead387 4 года назад
In a way it gives you hope that both sides consider the other is going to strike first means they neither are considering striking first and hopefully nothing will ever come out of it.
@saftevand
@saftevand 4 года назад
Mention Denmark while showing a map of Holland - how hard was that to get wrong? :-D
@Its_Me_Romano
@Its_Me_Romano 4 года назад
It's The Netherlands not Holland as that's a province. How hard is that to get wrong? :-D
@saftevand
@saftevand 4 года назад
@@Its_Me_Romano We Danes only have one name for your country, sorry ...
@kevindrummond5207
@kevindrummond5207 4 года назад
There are some problems with this assessment: 1. The attribution is exclusively to one Warsaw Pact nation. 2. Many of us felt that Southern West Germany (Sw Hesse, and Bavaria, where the main US efforts were concentrated) would have been in the Czechoslovakian Military's Zone of Invasion. 3. Soviet/DDR Joint Forces made featured strategic usage of Force Recon units. The USSR defeated the Third Reich with force Recon, and remains the only major army in Earth willing to use manned Frontline armored vehicles that are dropped right in front of the Russian Infantry. Growing up in Hanau and Frankfurt, we were debriefed once per year by the Army to know that these force Recon units would capture Fulda, And Hanau simultaneously: which made the 40-60 miles of Autobahn between the two mopping up ops, since Hanau est at the end of the Fulda Gap. We were going to be given a choice: accept arms, and fight the Czechs, or run to Rhein Mein, And evac. My group of friends chose to fight, so our siblings and mother's could escape. We feared the Red Brigades more than the Soviets. We feared the DDR more than the Soviets. But, we feared the Czechs more than anyone. Conventional wisdom: the force Recon units shall be in our front yard (Old Argonner Kaserne) within 30 minutes of an invasion.
@VisibilityFoggy
@VisibilityFoggy 4 года назад
Very interesting take. It strikes me that this was the exact reasoning behind the development of the Apache helicopter - drop behind hills, then pop up to take a Hellfire shot at that armor dropped in front of the infantry.
@seebanff7865
@seebanff7865 2 года назад
Question of the day..... General Paton wanted to keep going to Moscow, and beyond. Was it a big mistake to stop him?
@Zapper-kq1zg
@Zapper-kq1zg Год назад
this disabled person would have been killed by the Soviet army
@seebanff7865
@seebanff7865 Год назад
@@Zapper-kq1zg Nah. Paton's choice would have wiped out the soviet army. Paton should never have been stopped. And it actually would have done Russia a good favour. Russia would now be a truly strong democratic country instead of the backward, weak and pathetic kleptocracy it has become under those leaders from Stalin to Putin, apart from Khruschev and Gorbachev. Oh well. Too bad for weak and pathetic Russia. It is what it is.
@Zapper-kq1zg
@Zapper-kq1zg Год назад
@@seebanff7865 you shouldn't care, if we like this regime, then let it be, but it's time for the United States to denazify, let's bring you communism and there will be happiness
@Brian6587
@Brian6587 Год назад
I’ve questioned that myself a good bit as of late
@ErnestScribbler
@ErnestScribbler 4 года назад
I can remember seeing a map in german museum of what the Warsaw Pact would do in Germany in WW3. Their main thrust would go through the Fulda Gap to split the US and UK forces and head for Frankfurt then turn south to take the US Army on. Then turn their attention north and mop up the British forces because they were seen as a lesser threat. The video showed what Russia hope to do, but with no responses from NATO like they would be sitting on its hands. One erie thing in the museum was what looked like a concrete pipe stood upright which would have housed a nuclear demolitions charge in it, which would be blown up next to rivers or canals and canal locks to flood large areas or forests to set them on fire and the like. The problem with modern Russia it's never really accepted what it did in the cold war keeping half of Europe under its thumb. The Poles have got every right to upset them.
@MrDlt123
@MrDlt123 4 года назад
Soviets: We will cut Europe in half! Brexit: Hold my Euros.
@Hiznogood
@Hiznogood 4 года назад
Darrin Nunyah And who do you think is behind GB leaving EU? Putin is a sneaky bastard and know how to manipulate both media and politics in other countries. And the Limeys took the bait, hook, sinker and line. The Russians have had moles in the British government and secret police for ages. I wonder what next move Vladimir will do next? Maybe more refugees from Syria?
@Kevtribal
@Kevtribal 4 года назад
Just the fact that so much potential/ planning had gone into their scheme, man creates both awesome & devastation, it’s really got under my skin now...
@lonelychameleon3595
@lonelychameleon3595 4 года назад
That vintage footage looks great where'd you find it
@boomerhgt
@boomerhgt 4 года назад
He researched it
@FruitFlyKilla
@FruitFlyKilla 4 года назад
Has this channel just become a military history channel? Every new documentary you release is related to the military.
@SteveBueche1027
@SteveBueche1027 4 года назад
And in the end the people suffer thanks to the sociopaths in charge.
@doncarlton4858
@doncarlton4858 3 года назад
And that perfectly described the Soviet leadership from Stalin till the end.
@alexmaccity
@alexmaccity 4 года назад
Ive seen less commercials on diy car repair videos. Why ill just wiki the title
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