THE SPARES WHO BECAME HEIRS | Heir and the spare | people who unexpectedly became monarchs | Tudors

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QUESTION: What do Henry VIII, Mary I, Elizabeth I, Charles I, James II, Mary II, Queen Anne, George I, William IV, George V and George VI have in common, beyond being royalty? Answer: they were all royal spares who became heirs, then ultimately took the crown. The men were never meant to King, the women were never meant to be Queen, but all made it to the throne nonetheless through a combination of early deaths, the occasional revolution and even, famously, the abdication crisis of 1936. Some were even born as the heir to the throne, only to lose that position then regain it. In this week’s royal history documentary from History Calling I’m going to take you through the past 500 years of English history to bring you the story of the people who unexpectedly became monarchs and how they did it. The problems of lost heirs and ambitious spares is one which has affected all the royal houses of England, including the Tudors, the Stuarts, the Hanoverians and the Windsors, as Princes of Wales either passed away before producing any children of their own, decided they didn’t want the top job after all or were even shunted aside by their big sisters. Yes, unlikely as it may sound, this video will also include a story of two daughters who stole their father’s throne and usurped their brother’s claim to it. This video is inspired by Prince Harry’s memoir, Spare, a reference to his former position as spare to his brother, Prince William, though nowadays the role of spare is filled by Princess Charlotte who is in line to the throne after her brother, Prince George.
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@HistoryCalling Год назад

Which of these spare to heir stories is your favourite and why? Let me know below. You can also find me on Patreon at www.patreon.com/historycalling and on my Amazon storefront at www.amazon.com/shop/historycalling

@lfgifu296 Год назад

I’d probably say the George VI one, as it might just have saved the monarchy in the end! Let’s not forget Wallis was a Nazi sympathiser (so was David) so WWII would have taken a veeery different turn had he kept the crown

@Metadasius Год назад

@@lfgifu296 i totally agree, the geopolitical ramifications of the king not abdicating would have changed things considerably during the second world war through today.

@HistoryCalling Год назад

Yes, it's interesting/horrifying to think what might have happened if Edward/Wallis had been King and Queen in WW2. Maybe they would have seen the light though and denounced Nazism? We can only hope.

@stephanieking4444 Год назад

@@HistoryCalling in the 1990s, there was a theory floating around that the love story was used as an excuse to explain the abdication, when the real reason was that Edward was being pushed out because of his sympathy for the far-right.

@HistoryCalling Год назад

Oh, I haven't heard that one. I'm sure Edward would have said at the time though (as WW2 hadn't occurred yet) if he thought there were other reasons for him being made to abdicate.

@Kari_B61ex Год назад

I look on George VI as my 'favourite' Heir - he overcame and accomplished so much during horrendous times for the UK and 'gave' us our amazing Queen Elizabeth. The way he battelled against his speech impediment to speak to and calm the nation during the horrors of war time was nothing more than exemplary.

@HistoryCalling Год назад

Yes, he was a great guy. It's very sad that he passed so young.

@itsjustme7487 Год назад

I agree with you. He was an amazing "Spare" who overcame so much. Doctors at that time thought smoking was good for so many ailments. Poor mans tranquilizers, I heard one doctor say

@HistoryCalling Год назад

I know. It's shocking nowadays to think of people actually being told to smoke by their doctors. It's like telling someone to inhale asbestos!

@charliesmith_ Год назад

@@HistoryCalling or drink distilled spirits

@sherylcascadden4988 Год назад

When my husband and I were at the library checking out DVDs, two he wanted were already out and he asked me to go grab something I wanted. I chose "The King's Speech", which he hadn't heard of, and was sceptical about, but we are both history fans, and he ended up really enjoying it. Watching the story unfold from the point of view it did was wonderful. The research involved was excellent and on point, and brought hitherto hidden records into the public eye. I my opinion, this deserves much more recognition than it got

@phalynwilliams4119 Год назад

The first photograph is known as the 4 kings. Edward and Bertie were pictured with their father and grandfather. Life has its irony.

@joannebarber4845 Год назад

Elizabeth 1 is the best spare story. Just by playing it cool during both her brother's and especially he sister reign she survived to become one of the best English Monarchs.

@HistoryCalling Год назад

Yeah, can't beat good old Queen Bess. :-)

@zanmei7261 Год назад

My fav is definitely King George VI, the reluctant spare who courageously battled his shyness and stammer. He also made the right choice regarding marriage. Elizabeth Bowes Lyon had some outstanding qualities that he didn't have, for example, she was outgoing and confident. She fully supported, loved, and respected her husband, and together they made a great team. She brought out the very best in him. They passed on their strong sense of duty to their daughter, Queen Elizabeth.

@yourmammu Год назад

Elizabeth's rise to throne is extraordinary

@HistoryCalling Год назад

Yes, it is a crazy story. Her grandfather H7 is one of the few people whose rise I feel rivals hers for the sheer unexpectedness and danger of it all.

@roberthudson1959 Год назад

Agreed, especially since Elizabeth was at least as big a threat to her sister as Lady Jane Grey.

@louwinters508 Год назад

@@roberthudson1959harder to kill your own sister. Their kinship is what stopped Mary doing the deed. Jane Grey was only her cousin's child.

@bookwyrm2011 Год назад

I would have to say George VI was my favorite. He took a bad situation and made the best of it that he could.

@HistoryCalling Год назад

Yes, he seems to have been a really good guy. It's very sad that he died so young.

@rachelhenderson2688 Год назад

Yes, he was greatly admired here in Britain for his wartime leadership. When he died, it was announced on the radio, and schools broadcast Lessons on the radio were cancelled for the day. (I was not impressed) When I got home at midday, I could see that my mother had been crying. He was a very popular King.

@Blaqjaqshellaq Год назад

He ultimately gave his life for the nation, like thousands of his subjects at the time...

@AlphineWolf Год назад

@History Calling a very progressive guy according to History anyways. The privy council at the time of his rule overthrew a ruling by the Supreme Court of Canada that women were less than qualified persons whom weren't allowed to vote.

@TyrSkyFatherOfTheGods Год назад

Had Edward VIII not abdicated, Elizabeth II would still have become Queen regnant when he died in 1972, since he and Wallis were childless.

@savagedarksider2147 Год назад

I don't think Edward could have children.

@Lassisvulgaris Год назад

"What if" is the curse of history.....

@HistoryCalling Год назад

Yes, that's very true.

@crazykitten440 3 месяца назад

@@savagedarksider2147more that Wallis had already had a hysterectomy, can't grow babies when the" nursery" is gone.

@AthenaisC Год назад

Thankfully, William & Catherine have three children, so Harry the Spare will never have to take the throne. The UK dodged a bullet.

@HistoryCalling Год назад

I agree that I don't think he'll ever be King, but I wonder if he'd had more direction in life by being the heir if that might have been better for him? We'll never know of course.

@jessiefrye3045 Год назад

Thank Almighty God!

@ksprincess Год назад

The Mary and Anne story is my favorite - it's so messy! And changed the succession forever!

@tonyk1584 Год назад

Great stuff!. As the oldest of two boys, that would technically make me the heir, and my brother, 11 months younger, the spare. Because there was no kingdom nor royal title to inherit, however, the only throne I sat on was in the loo.

@HistoryCalling Год назад

Haha, that made me smile. Don't go calling your brother your spare to his face though. We wouldn't want an overthrow :-) (Also, only 11 months between you! Your poor mum. She must have been waist high in nappies and massively sleep deprived for years!)

@tonyk1584 Год назад

@@HistoryCalling Thank you for the heart and I'm glad you smiled. It was even worse for my mum than you imagined. I and my siblings are part of the post war BABY BOOM generation that you may have read about in the papers LOL. My sister was born in Sept 45, I came along in Nov 46, and my brother in Oct 47. Imagine a girl 25 months old, and me 11 months old when my brother entered the world. Remember, no throw away diapers, one car family, and hanging the wash outside on the clothesline to dry. Kids born so close together as my brother and myself were known as "Irish Twins" back then. Ours wasn't the only family with a brood like this. The neighborhood was absolutely full of kids. No TV at first back then, no internet. Everybody played outside ALL the time. It was a good time to grow up.

@eliscanfield3913 Год назад

@@tonyk1584 My grandfather's sister was born less than a week before his 1st birthday. (33 & 34, I think, but don't quote me) Which must've been interesting for his mother.

@neilbuckley1613 Год назад

@@eliscanfield3913 My wife was born December 1962, she has an older sister born in December 1961 and an oldest sister born August 1960. Fortunately there was a gap to 1965 before the youngest sister wwas born.

@kate_cooper Год назад

I’m the oldest of three but the youngest is a boy. So whether I’m the heir or the spare depends on whether we’re going by male preference primogeniture or absolute primogeniture.

@keicoohashi2353 Год назад

George VI, in spite of his delicate health, he carried out his duty of King in a difficult situation of the war, so I have great admiration for his courage.Also George V was regarded as a wise King with good judgement, he said of his son Edward: "after I am dead, the boy will ruin himself within 12 months", indeed he was correct: less than a year after taking the throne, Edward abdicated, causing the family damage to its reputation.Thanks for your video.

@HistoryCalling Год назад

Yes, George V certainly had the measure of his eldest son.

@nannettepolcastro4799 Год назад

I heard that before

@hilman94 Год назад

as I know, George V was also saying this "I pray to God my eldest son will never marry and have children, and that nothing will come between Bertie and Lilibet and the throne" now, that's what I called a vision...

@verak66 Год назад

Totally agree

@sleekoduck Год назад

George V saved the monarchy during WW1 at the cost of his favorite cousin's life (Tsar Nicholas). They seem like faces in history books, but he had to make life and death decisions that affected his immediate family. They changed their name and some of them died.

@eliscanfield3913 Год назад

George III's boys were my favorite story, mostly because of how old they all were when they died. (well, besides the 2 youngest who died so as toddlers) and how it was the 4th son's kid who inherited, despite all these uncles.

@HistoryCalling Год назад

Yes, it is remarkable how many boys had to be gone through before a stable heir, who lived long enough to reproduce could finally be obtained (Victoria).

@charliesmith_ Год назад

@@HistoryCalling Chromosomes rule! 😉

@edithengel2284 Год назад

The uncles did have sons, but many of them were illegitimate, and those uncles who did have legitimate sons were younger than Victoria's father the Duke of Kent, so Victoria preceded them in the succession. (King William IV had a quiverful of illegitimate children, one of whom wasan ancestor of former PM Cameron.)

@dominaevillae28 Год назад

It was the parents fault for not at arranging marriages for the princes when young, and not allowing the daughters to marry until their mid-thirties.

@kate_cooper Год назад

The thing is, George III and Queen Charlotte *did* have grandchildren, they just didn’t have any legitimate ones. Letting their sons have mistresses instead of wives until middle age squandered their most fertile years on producing children who couldn’t legally inherit, so it was partly their own poor planning that was to blame.

@lfgifu296 Год назад

I love George VI. Seems like a truly kind and sensible guy

@HistoryCalling Год назад

Yes, I think he seems like a really good person too. It's awful that someone who so desperately didn't want the Crown was basically forced into taking it.

@lfgifu296 Год назад

@@HistoryCallingYes :( He did a great job though! (much better than his brother would at that :/ )

@HistoryCalling Год назад

He really did. It's tragic that they didn't know the problems with smoking back then. If he hadn't smoked, I suspect he would have lived a lot longer.

@lfgifu296 Год назад

@@HistoryCallingIndeed- he had good genes! Queen Victoria, Queen Mary, even Queen Alexandra! The men are not that impressed, because, again, they smoked like there was no tomorrow (and to them there wasn’t😭- sorry I had to)

@rachelhenderson2688 Год назад

His success was helped by the love and support of his wife Elizabeth (mother of Elizabeth II). She hesitated to accept his proposal because he was so shy, but once she was his wife, she was 100% behind him, especially in encouraging him to have therapy for his speech impediment. She is the lady that my contemporaries and I knew as The Queen Mother

@maryloumawson6006 Год назад

Oh, very well done HC! I have often noted the many times the "spare" ended up on the throne, and wondered at the lack of videos discussing it from content creators. I've even wondered why the designated spare was not prepared educationally to rule, as in the case of Princess Margaret. Of course, QEII married early and produced an heir quickly, but no one could have known that when the two princesses were growing up. Thanks for an excellent video!

@HistoryCalling Год назад

Yes, in many ways it would be more sensible to prepare a spare as well, but I suppose that would be like dangling a carrot in front of them that they'll probably never get to eat. Also, back in ye olden days you wouldn't want younger brothers getting any ideas about offing their older brothers.

@maryloumawson6006 Год назад

@@HistoryCalling Very good point. I hadn't thought of it like that.

@lsmith9249 Год назад

Marylou Mawson our Monarchs do not rule, that changed after Charles I and they now only reign and Princess Margaret was educated with her sister and the only thing heirs are taught differently is constitutional history, which as George V and VI proved does not need to be taught to "spares"

@aliceingoryland Год назад

It's kind of remarkable that a spare then his spare became kings. (George V and George VI) And the man who wanted a boy for his legacy had females as his legacy, all spares also (Henry VIII, Mary I, and Elizabeth I)

@HistoryCalling Год назад

I know. Just goes to show, you should never discount the underdog.

@gerrimilner9448 Год назад

not seeking power, but having it thrust upon you, i think, is the main reason georgeVI was such a good king

@leticiagarcia9025 Год назад

I pick Mary and Elizabeth. I’m sure five hundred years ago no one imagined this would happen. Mary became the first woman monarch. People at that time must’ve thought that Mary and Elizabeth would be married off for political reasons. Mary got to rule for about five or six years. Before her death she named Elizabeth as her successor. Her reign was marked the Golden Age. I have such admiration for George VI. He was able to overcome his stammer so he can speak to his people during WWII. I’m sure his speeches calmed a lot nerves during those dark days. Thank you for this history lesson. Have a lovely weekend.

@HistoryCalling Год назад

Yes, I really have a soft spot for George VI too. Mary and Elizabeth wanted to be monarchs at least. He had to step up to the mark and do a job he never wanted for the rest of his life and with the speech impediment you mention as well. Poor guy.

@andypham1636 Год назад

Mary was married for political reasons, but as her husband was also a monarch, she rarely was with him

@JJ-the-Fortnite-Festival-Fan Год назад

Actually Mary I wasn’t the first queen of England in 1141 Empress Matilda daughter of Henry I became queen for 3 months while King Stephen was imprisoned but he was let out and Matilda was removed from the throne and Stephen was back on it And there was Jane who ruled for 9 days in 1553 but was removed from the throne by Mary I and Jane was executed by Mary I in 1554 after a rebellion to put Jane on the throne ( it failed ) and Mary I scared executed Lady Jane Grey and her Husband Lord Guilford . Dudley

@andypham1636 Год назад

@@JJ-the-Fortnite-Festival-Fan she was the first undisputed queen

@andypham1636 Год назад

@@JJ-the-Fortnite-Festival-Fan Empress Matilda was disputed since she didn’t effectively secure her claim (although I do sympathize with her) + Lady Jane Grey was disputed since she wasn’t supposed to be queen, being only the cousin once removed of Edward VI. She didn’t even want the throne to begin with

@patmccoy8758 Год назад

I remember learning about Wallis Warfield Simpson, Duchess of Windsor, when I was still in grade school. Imagine my shock when I discovered, decades later, that she is my cousin!!!!

@imaginempress3408 Год назад

I wouldn't say it was unlikely the spare would ever sit on the throne during Henry VIII's time. That's exactly how H VIII ended up king.

@kate_cooper Год назад

Bertie, as I usually call George VI, is definitely my favourite. He, along with his daughter, was one of the very few monarchs we’ve had who was both a good person and a good king. It’s just sad that he died so prematurely. I also have a theory that Parliament deliberately made Edward choose between Wallis and the throne to force his abdication because they were on the brink of war and knew that Bertie far more than Edward was the king they needed right now.

@rachelhenderson2688 Год назад

Yes, I agree 100%

@wuverrabbit Год назад

Heard this too. Though there is also a story that the English citizen's didn't care and held out signs to let him marry whomever he wanted. But both brothers are said to be German/Nazi sympathizers as their cousins who lost their throne were often associated with the Nazi party though many were straight out forbidden to go to war. (Charles Edward for example :( Though likely again forbidden to do anything as he was used like his other German cousins, to gain control of Germany, promising their titles back, which we know never happened. Royal's were forbidden by Hitler to take part in the war.)

@elisabethpitt6103 Год назад

It's a fact, that Edward the 8th was being conspired against to remove him. He was showing signs of becoming a "little Hitler" even then.

@lsmith9249 Год назад

Kate Cooper he was called Bertie by his family and friends because of his first name. George was only his regnal name and you're theory is wrong, Parliament didn't do that it's the Archbishop of Canterbury who wanted Bertie, because he was a family man

@kate_cooper Год назад

@@lsmith9249 Yes, his first name was Albert, Bertie for short. Same as Edward VII who also used his middle name regnally.

@kiernan415 Год назад

Love, love love how your story-telling style includes throwing in the occasional little zinger to highlight a point. Like here when you made sure to remind everyone that "the dowager Queen Mary wasn't exactly known for being warm and fuzzy". 😂🤣 My favorite one out of all your videos so far is when you called Edward VI a "little sexist". It seemed you wanted to say much worse but decided it best to leave it there. Lol. Brilliant! As for the "spare" I have the most admiration for, that would be Elizabeth I. She was essentially an orphan by age 3 and arguably, had the roughest childhood out of the siblings. It's a small miracle she lived to inherit the throne at all as Mary was looking for any reason to have her executed. Had Mary lived, I feel Elizabeth would've eventually been declared a traitor over some small infraction, beheaded and unceremoniously buried alongside her mother in an unmarked grave at St. Peter ad Vincula in the Tower. For her, inheriting the crown quite literally saved her life and hopefully brought her a sense of security she had never previously known as well. She was an exceptional woman and monarch and can't imagine what would've become of England without her "Good Queen Bess".

@HistoryCalling Год назад

Haha, yes I do indeed believe that Edward VI was very sexist, but then again, that's the era in which he lived for you. Pretty much everyone was sexist. Yes, I don't think things would have gone well for Elizabeth either had Mary lived another few years. An arranged marriage to a foreign Prince probably would have been the best outcome for her.

@lsmith9249 Год назад

kiernan there must have been some warmth, it's well known that Bertie cried on her shoulder when David abdicated

@pierremainstone-mitchell8290 Год назад

George VI is my favourite for one main reason. He had a very bad stammer and valiantly fought to overcome it. The reason he's my favourite is that I too had a very bad stammer and likewise had to fight to overcome it! And from what I've read our causes were the same. He was left-handed and was forced to write with his right hand and the same thing happened to me!

@annmoore6678 Год назад

To decide which of the stories of spares is my favorite, I finally thought about which spare had the smoothest time of it. But none of them had a particularly easy time as monarch, did they, considering that all the women spares died without an heir (I don't really count Victoria as a spare, since her destiny was already clear when she was born). I suppose George V did as well as anybody, ruling a huge empire and dying in his bed in full expectation that he'd left the succession secure. On the other hand, he had to steer his country through World War I. And George VI, although he did such a good job, was so well loved, and left his empire to such a magnificent daughter, came to the throne in tears. He was the most fortunate, though he didn't know it at the time.

@HistoryCalling Год назад

I know. It is hard to choose. I have soft spots for Elizabeth I and George VI myself.

@roxorange6022 Год назад

Thank goodness the current "Spare" is down to #5! Great topical topic!

@sophiarose7610 Год назад

Haters hate. Charlotte is the current spare. But William likes to take his ENTIRE family on helicopters. I think Kobe Bryant’s life prove that a stupid decision for William.

@roxorange6022 Год назад

@@sophiarose7610 "Spare" was a reference to the book

@lfgifu296 Год назад

Oh! A look through wider history :) some of these turned tragically bad😭

@HistoryCalling Год назад

Yes, this one covers a few hundred years. It's always nice to be able to show I can do non-Tudor stuff as well :-)

@rollyvachon Год назад

There was also George II's son that died to the grandson took the crown as George III.

@amandagibbs2429 Год назад

I just did a related paper about the succession crisis of Henry VIIIs kids, execution of Charles I, abdication of Edward VIII all occurred under the astrology transit of Saturn in Pisces. 🫠 Love your compilation 💜

@HistoryCalling Год назад

Thanks Amanda. I'm sorry the video wasn't out before your paper though, as it might have helped.

@shayleaddison8 Год назад

this might be odd but i would absolutely be interested in reading about that!! do you have a link to your paper or any sources you used that I could read? this sounds super interesting!

@amandagibbs2429 Год назад

@HistoryCalling No no... you're fine. Your videos (and several others) have helped with dates of historic events to match up to the dates of the transits. :) I just found your timing to be absolutely perfect

@glitterandbows12 Год назад

@@shayleaddison8 I would also love to read! Saturn opposite king Henry the 8th’s Virgo rising during that transit

@HaruRoselia Год назад

@@shayleaddison8 Me too!

@helgaborek3290 Год назад

Thank you so much for the video! Even though I've known all spares ' stories, I loved hearing them again from you. I love George VI, but also Mary II and the Queen Anne, especially the latter with all her history of childbirth. I really felt for Anne after your video on her.

@HistoryCalling Год назад

You're very welcome. Yes, Anne's story is heartbreaking. :-(

@charliesmith_ Год назад

🧡 bless her. Good choice.

@104thDIVTimberwolf Год назад

If you wanted to go back farther, the four sons of Aethewulf of Wessex, starting with Athelstan and ending with Alfred the Great took turns as heirs and spares (except Athelstan, who was the original heir).

@HistoryCalling Год назад

Oh gosh, no. I couldn't go that far back. Even the medieval period is so confusing because of how fluid the system of inheritance was. I had to make the Tudors my cut-off point. I would like to look more at the Anglo-Saxons though at some point. They seem like an interesting bunch.

@stevenleslie8557 Год назад

Very good! Now do the Plantagenets

@bifa5414 Год назад

I would love to see "spare to heirs" stories from other countries. Maybe from Poland (it was quite shaky there) or Russia (a lot of connections to England).

@Riftrender Год назад

Prince Harry's approval rating is worse than Prince Andrew's. They are both negative, but Andrew's is less negative.

@HistoryCalling Год назад

I read that too. It's a shocking statistic indeed. I would say the Sussexes have a better chance of rebounding though.

@Riftrender Год назад

@@HistoryCalling Until they stop being that South Park parody not a chance.

@HistoryCalling Год назад

Ah, yes, I saw that. People used to think that Camilla could never be Queen though. I mean she was literally the most hated non-murderer in Britain and yet look at her now. Just goes to show you never know how things are gonna turn out.

@eliscanfield3913 Год назад

That. is. appalling., Considering what Andrew's fairly credibly accused of. It's not like Will wasn't into most of the same stuff as Harry, anyway.

@jessiefrye3045 Год назад

@@eliscanfield3913 yet, Prince Andrew is indeed a war hero.

@QPRTokyo Год назад

I personally cannot stand the term spare used in this context. I know it was first used many years ago but after Mr Henry Mountbatten Windsor’s book , I feel the term now means a liar.

@HistoryCalling Год назад

If it helps, the actual spare now is Princess Charlotte.

@user-jr4zq7xm5q Год назад

George V & George VI ❤❤

@jasonmaccoul Год назад

The Glorius Revolution, James II. I didn’t know all of that. Seems just as dramatic as the Tudor beginnings a few hundred years earlier. This was a great video, as they all are. I hope you have more videos lined up in succession!

@HistoryCalling Год назад

Oh yeah, the Stuarts were a messy family too. Lots of them were killed by their relations as well. They just don't get as much press as the Tudors.

@Blaqjaqshellaq Год назад

@@HistoryCalling Bonnie Prince Charlie, the Young Pretender, had a little brother Henry, the Spare Pretender! (He became a priest.)

@AndrewJamesGordon Год назад

In fact, the majority of English and British monarchs were spares. In the case of the early Norman and Angevin Kings, the title King of England was deemed the lesser title and the eldest sons usually became Duke of Normandy.

@pedanticradiator1491 Год назад

That Actually only happened once with the death of William I when his eldest son became Duke of Normandy and his second son King of England

@AndrewJamesGordon Год назад

@@pedanticradiator1491 From William I to Henry III, all the Kings of England were also the Duke of Normandy.

@pedanticradiator1491 Год назад

@@AndrewJamesGordon except for Wiilliam II and maybe Stephen

@AndrewJamesGordon Год назад

@@pedanticradiator1491 oops, you’re right that William Rufus wasn’t Duke of Normandy as his elder brother Robert survived him by 6 years. But Stephen definitely was Duke of Normandy from 1135-1144 until Normandy was conquered by Geoffrey, Count of Anjou.

@claire2088 Год назад

great vid- Heir and the spare is such an old old concept- when Harry said something about him being the spare because he was there for organ transplants I was like "is he okay? like that's conspiracy crazy talking there!"

@HistoryCalling Год назад

Yeah, I don't think he was born for organ transplants. They aren't quite that extreme :-)

@claire2088 Год назад

@@HistoryCalling there are so many things much more likely to happen to william than the very small chance he'd need a spare organ, and even then the chance harry would be a match isn't great (varies depending on the organ but like kidney's it's 50% I think? they'd have needed more kids if they wanted to have a decent chance they had an organ match), and he'd have to consent etc. it's jsut such a brutual thing to say about your family- that you believe they were raising you like a lab animal for spare organs

@neilbuckley1613 Год назад

Was this in an interview or in his book? Could it have been an attempt at Humour?

@MarthaDwyer Год назад

@@neilbuckley1613That's what I think, an attempted st a joke. It was in his book.

@ceejaymmpee Год назад

Who knows what was said around him growing up and what he absorbed. Who are you to minimise his experience. He is the one that lived in the royal family the first 40 years of his life. Imagine what it was like for him. He actually left the royal family. Can’t have been that wonderful. He was unhappy for years with the life so maybe romanticising life as a royal should stop. You can surmise all you like but none of us know. Harry does.

@phineas117 Год назад

the thing that amazes me is.....George the fifth was the spare to Prince albert victor....who died...and George had NO training to be King. George the sixth was the spare to Edward the eighth....and NO training to be King. Of course Elizabeth II became Queen, but Margaret was given NO training as a backup. look at Charles.....His brothers had no extra training. (thank God with the Duke of york) but why wasn't Edward given some training? and then of course....Harry . the ultimate spare to William. and NO TRAINING AT ALL. and again, I think William will not make that mistake. I think he will prepare each of his kids...George, Charlotte and Louis.

@pedanticradiator1491 Год назад

Albert Victor died before his father became King. Edward VII did in fact train the later George V to be King though he himself had had little training due to his selfish mother's dislike and jealously of him

@HistoryCalling Год назад

I suppose it depends on what we mean by training. They'd all been in close proximity to the monarch their whole lives, so they had at least had the opportunity to see the job being done.

@zanmei7261 Год назад

King George V's status changed from spare to heir in 1892, and he didn't become King until 1910, so he had 18 years to prepare. On the other hand, the abdication crisis happened so quickly that King George VI only had a day or so to prepare. Must have been a real shock.

@johnslaughter5475 Год назад

Very nice and interesting. I'm glad you clarified that you were only going back for the last half millennium. The first thing that popped into my head was Richard the Lionheart and John. Richard, himself, originally being a spare. Then, going back to William the Conqueror, we have his 4 sons, with the 4th becoming Henry I. As I've mentioned before, anyone trying to keep track of these genealogies for purposes of inheritance was either chewing a lot of willow bark or taking enough aspirin to have stock in Bayer. As for the favorite, I think Edward VIII. He followed his heart instead of the rules. This would lead to probably the most popular person ever to sit on the throne of the UK - Elizabeth II.

@savagedarksider2147 Год назад

He abdicated the throne for A woman who did not love him.

@HistoryCalling Год назад

Yes, it was just too complex to try to pick out spares from pre-Bosworth. The rules were simply too lax around who should/could become monarch, as the whole situation around Empress Matilda proves.

@neilbuckley1613 Год назад

@@HistoryCalling I think there was some stabilising when the 9 yrs old Richard II was allowed to succeeed his grandfather Edward III in 1377. In earlier times one of his adult uncles might have seized the throne.

@Furienna Год назад

Well, Edward VIII had no children (it is even possible that he became infertile after he had mumps). So it would have been up to Elizabeth to take the throne anyway.

@happycommuter3523 Год назад

I love all your videos, but this one was especially good. I enjoy your sense of humor, even when you’re talking about serious or tragic events.

@HistoryCalling Год назад

Thank you. I think you have to try to find the light side where you can.

@aFallOutGirl 10 месяцев назад

George VI is my favorite, he replaced someone incompetence, and even though he was sad to take the burden of king, he did such an amazing job with it.

@Marcus51090 Год назад

it’s so weird the direction life takes you in I’ve noticed that as I get older… I bet some of these people never ever thought they would be a monarch

@HistoryCalling Год назад

Absolutely. I mean I can't imagine William IV for instance ever thought he'd be King whilst growing up. It was so unlikely.

@stephencarrillo5905 Год назад

Thanks, HC! After taking in this video yesterday I rewatched "The King's Speech" as I also admire George VI. Not the best history perhaps but a dream cast.

@HistoryCalling Год назад

THANK YOU SO MUCH STEPHEN. I love that movie too and the history isn't too bad actually. When you set it next to things like Reign, it's practically a documentary :-)

@stephencarrillo5905 Год назад

@@HistoryCalling 🤣🤣

@chrisbanks6659 Год назад

@@HistoryCalling Or Braveheart 🙄🙄

@stephanieking4444 Год назад

@@HistoryCalling hear, hear. I too love ''The King's Speech''. ''Reign' is one of the most extreme examples of really bad history on film. it's the bottom of the barrel.😄

@HistoryCalling Год назад

The costumes alone (though pretty enough in of themselves) had me wanting to cry.

@nancyM1313 Год назад

Thank you for working so hard to make these wonderful videos. You make Royal History much easier to understand for us across the Pond. 🤴🏻🌏👸🏻

@HistoryCalling Год назад

No problem. Glad you enjoyed the video. :-)

@charliesmith_ Год назад

*Thank you so much for this video.* And the all including hug of a great question. I learnt a lot. More please. X

@HistoryCalling Год назад

You're very welcome. More to come :-)

@jldisme Год назад

Thanks for the video!

@HistoryCalling Год назад

You're welcome :-)

@vernon2542 Год назад

That was a great and interesting video. I actually found them all quite intriguing as they all came to the throne through different reasons. Looking forward to next weeks.

@HistoryCalling Год назад

Thanks Vernon :-)

@whiplash8277 Год назад

Another great telling of interesting and important facts of history.

@lise-annetijerino5624 Год назад

Very complex and fascinating

@chrisbanks6659 Год назад

Hard to do this on a phone 😂 I shall watch when back next w/end. Looks interesting - as ever 🤓🌞

@HistoryCalling Год назад

Thanks Chris. Have a lovely weekend :-)

@simon112 Год назад

Excellent as always HC, all these heirs and spares all very interesting in their own way for me it's got to good queen bess thank you HC perfection as always, 😊😊

@HistoryCalling Год назад

Thanks Simon. Yes, rarely has someone (except maybe her granda, Henry VII) made it to the throne against such overwhelming odds.

@Ferrie123 Год назад

Thanks for the top quality content! 👍👏🙏

@HistoryCalling Год назад

THANK YOU SO MUCH FERRIE123 for such an amazing gift to the channel and apologies for the slightly slow response. I took the weekend off work. I hope you enjoyed hearing all the spare to heir stories. :-)

@Momof4kidsand3dogs Год назад

So excited to be this early, and can’t wait to watch this!!

@HistoryCalling Год назад

Thanks Mel. Enjoy. :-)

@patriciafuchs5970 Год назад

Very informative!

@HistoryCalling Год назад

Thanks Patricia :-)

@corricatt Год назад

Heir and spare started with the beginning of life, but this vlog... AWESOME!!

@HistoryCalling Год назад

Thank you :-)

@namaschu2126 Год назад

Thank you for another interesting Video🎥📽️, the theme is a very good idea. My favourite is the Tudor Story👑

@HistoryCalling Год назад

Thank you :-) I was inspired by Prince Harry's book.

@helenvick522 Год назад

Great information. Thanks.

@HistoryCalling Год назад

Glad it was helpful :-)

@jontyarnold8522 Год назад

Very good, an original topic, excellent content

@HistoryCalling Год назад

Thanks Jonty. I was inspired by Prince Harry.

@davidlancaster8152 Год назад

Really enjoy the paintings and photos. Excellent post.

@HistoryCalling Год назад

Thanks David :-)

@nathanfisher1826 Год назад

Thank you very interesting!

@HistoryCalling Год назад

Thanks Nathan. :-)

@june1935 Год назад

great video. could you do a spare video from before 1500. i know it is alot more complacted. but i for one find those times intesting and fun.

@einezcrespo2107 Год назад

Catherine Parr convinced Henry VIII to restore his daughter's to the Succession.

@WildBillCox13 Год назад

Well presented. Much enjoyed.

@HistoryCalling Год назад

Many thanks :-)

@Metadasius Год назад

Congrats on 150k !

@HistoryCalling Год назад

Thanks Charles. Onwards and upwards to 200k (hopefully!)

@Metadasius Год назад

@@HistoryCalling you will be there faster than you think. Your content is well researched and presented

@stephencarrillo5905 Год назад

@@HistoryCalling You'll get there!

@HistoryCalling Год назад

I hope so. It's actually very up and down. I had a dreadful month in December for instance and then it picked up dramatically in January. There's just no predicting it.

@Metadasius Год назад

@@HistoryCalling that seems to be the norm for youtube right now. All praise the algorythm 😉

@twilliamspro Год назад

Not only was Henry VIII given his brothers title but his widow too blimey

@paigesharpe9677 Год назад

This video has taught me more about the Stewart line than school ever did.

@coyotemojo Год назад

@15:49 I like how he blends in with the curtain]

@kristinpayne1825 Год назад

Since visiting England in June 2022, I have been so interested in the history. I have found this podcast and others which are so interesting.

@HistoryCalling Год назад

Thanks Kristen. I hope you enjoyed your England trip. For such a small country, it has so much to see.

@beastieber5028 Год назад

Hello to history calling

@HistoryCalling Год назад

Hi Bea. Good timing. I literally just logged in and saw your message at the top of the feed :-)

@sophiarose7610 Год назад

This is why the “spare” is still important.

@delia88209 Год назад

I love your channel and now when I see movies about the tudors or the topics you cover on this channel I always compare and look to see compare them to your videos. A man for all season was on a few days ago and I was looking how accurate Henry viii and. Anne were portrayed and I noticed Anne didn’t have any jewelry after she married Henry.

@HistoryCalling Год назад

Thank you very much (though I'll offer a small disclaimer and say that even I am certainly not above making the odd error). I haven't seen A Man for All Seasons actually, but Anne would certainly have worn jewellery as Queen.

@delia88209 Год назад

It is very good movie about Thomas More refusing to go get Henry marrying Anne and he gets executed for it. It is an old movie but I really enjoy it

@woodenbeast9337 Год назад

Your talent of productions continue to show. Thank you. Just a thought: A uterus is an heir loom

@HistoryCalling Год назад

Erm, I don't get the uterus joke (sorry), but I'm glad you enjoyed the video :-)

@woodenbeast9337 Год назад

@@HistoryCalling I will do better next time

@captaincrunch784 Год назад

I burst out laughing- heir loom LOL

@savagedarksider2147 Год назад

Philip II of Spain wanted to sideline Mary and exercise power in England-and keep the throne-not really caring if Mary could have children.

@HistoryCalling Год назад

I agree he wanted power in England, but without a child by Mary that power was always going to be very limited. I think he'd have been thrilled to be able to rule England as Regent if she'd reproduced then died (although I don't know that the English would have let him).

@patriciaramsey5294 Год назад

You mentioned Queen Mary of Tech. She wss first engaged to prince Albert, then had to marry his brother, who became King George V. I have been told that she was cold, distant, only married the spare out of obligation and she did not love him. Could you please do a video about her? You could include the loss of one of her sons, the so-called lost prince, who was developmently disabled and died before he turned 14.

@HistoryCalling Год назад

I think she did come to love him, but yes, it's true she was basically handed down from one Prince to the next and she was known for being quite emotionally cold.

@Blaqjaqshellaq Год назад

And she was a bit of a klepto...

@melodyclark1944 Год назад

If you look up the list of who's been Duke of York you'll see that those second sons about half the time became monarch

@HistoryCalling Год назад

As long as the current one doesn't get the crown...

@angr3819 Год назад

Thank you

@HistoryCalling Год назад

And thank you for watching/commenting :-)

@clasqm Год назад

You really could go back further. Alfred the Great became king even though he had FOUR elder brothers.

@LusiaEyre 4 месяца назад

I would like to see your take on Prince Albert Victor because there are like two main takes on him - one: we dodged a bullet as he was dumb and possibly Jack the Ripper or two: his character and smarts were slandered by propaganda machine aimed at boosting his brother's popularity as king. George V was not warm nor fuzzy, just like his wife, but he also was a right dictator to his traumatised children and, overall, less PR friendly than his dashing dandy older brother.

@charliesmith_ Год назад

The humour is that Henry Whimsy Windsor hasn't been the spare for a long time now. My fave spare? Elizabeth I CPTSD survivor.

@HistoryCalling Год назад

Yeah, gotta love Elizabeth. :-)

@charliesmith_ Год назад

@@HistoryCalling awful childhood. Bless her Don't blame her for never wanting to marry. I didn't - for much the same sound reasons.

@janechoy2073 Год назад

George VI because he became king when there's no deaths involved as he got the job because his big bro didn't want it and dumped it to him - like he SO did NOT ask for this, thanks bruh. He at least had the decency and respect to literally finish the job to the best he could and didn't dump it to anyone else.

@BeeKool__113 10 месяцев назад

Great video!! 👍 I think my favorite spare to heir tale is probably the most famous; that of ol' Harry VIII. Perhaps because yes, there's a lot of coverage of his reign but also because there's a lot of fascinating events that occurred during that time frame. Next would have to be his daughter, Queen Elizabeth I and finally Queen Marry II. Also, I am curious if you did read Prince Harry's Spare book? I have mixed feelings about his book and the Sussex branch in general. As always, fantastic video that is so interesting and educational. Who is your favorite spare to heir story? 🌹🏰🏵👑🏵🏰🌹

@michellebruce5092 Год назад

Hi, how are you? I'm doing well. Awesome live history video I enjoyed it. Have a great day greetings from Canada 😀

@HistoryCalling Год назад

Hi Michelle. I'm good thanks. Hello from across the pond :-)

@tracymcardle1236 Год назад

I think the queen's father was a lovely man and she always looked to him and ruled as he would have

@HistoryCalling Год назад

Yes, he seems like he was a really good guy. It's very sad that he died so young.

@alecblunden8615 Год назад

Elizabeth II was a worthy successor, but it would have been nice for her to have had a less demanding role for a few more years.

@charliesmith_ Год назад

1:40 to 1:48 🤣 brilliant 👏. _Was wondering what's been going on up there._ Looks like a 'weave'.👍

@chrisbanks6659 Год назад

Well that was an enjoyable 15 minutes. Thanks for the research, although I strongly suspect about 90 - 95% of this was / is committed to memory. The only one I was a bit fuzzy about was Queen Anne. BTW - is it just me or does the portrait of young Edward VI look like it's been drawn by a caricaturist? Perhaps Holbein missed his vocation.

@melodyclark1944 Год назад

If I was going to write about a royal family I'd make two spares. Two is better than one. And there's a difference in how you'd grow and turn out if you know you have two in front of you vs one.

@reverseflashes Год назад

Mary I is a fascinating woman. I'm trying to learn more about her and her reign; but a lot of the things I find is focused on her Catholic policies. There is no way she spent her whole reign just executing Protestants. And I don't like that that's the only thing she is remembered for. I'm not trying to normalize what she had done but she is far from the only monarch who executed people. I think she deserves more credit for being the first Queen of England in her own right! She had an incredibly tough life, with no control over a single thing yet always being treated like a threat, something to get rid of. I read her letter to Henry, the one she regretted writing it; there's a part in it where she says, "I am not worthy of being your daughter". Imagine your own dad forcing you to do that! Learning how horribly Henry treated her after divorcing Catherine, like it's actually hard to comprehend it, it made me understand better why Mary never got over anything and why she didn't forgive Anne Boleyn. They ruined Mary's life. This woman was mentally scarred her whole life. I'm not Christian so I don't want to say something that might be insensitive but I do wonder what would have happened if she had lived longer, if she married someone else (someone who at least cared for her) or if she had a child. Poor woman, never got a moment of peace.

@HistoryCalling Год назад

I have 3 videos looking at her life which I think you would find interesting if you haven't seen them already. They're in my Tudor monarchs' playlist. She is very interesting and I came to a lot of the same conclusions as you; that she was badly damaged by her father.

@reverseflashes Год назад

@@HistoryCalling Yes! Her coronation video is on my watch later list, I'm hoping to watch it asap.

@verak66 Год назад

Yes. Your reply is very interesting. I am Catholic so I love that about her. What I don't love are all the executions. I agree that her childhood scarred her as it must have also done to her half sister. But they both had their own blood relations beheaded. They had incredibly stressful childhoods but can't say I really like either one. Their father is my most loathed English monarch. It would take a long book just to list all the horrific things he did. I've wondered if some of his vileness carried over to his children as none of them were especially kind or sweet. Remember The Bad Seed? To answer your question, though, George VI will always be my favorite with Queen Victoria in second place. Thank you for all your hard, careful work.

@justinekessner2645 Год назад

THAT'S WHAT'S SCARES ME THE MOST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@Ater_Draco Год назад

Another great video. Would you consider doing one on the last true Princessof Wales, Gwenllian?

@HistoryCalling Год назад

Maybe. I hadn't actually heard of her before. It all depends on whether I can get original sources and if they are in English.

@Ater_Draco Год назад

@@HistoryCalling thank you 😊 💕

@leerogish7223 Год назад

Elizabeth 1st had such an amazing story. Was never intended to rule and when she came to the thrown England was a bankrupt nation torn apart by religious infighting courtesy of her two religious zealot siblings and on her watch England became a prosperous world power and cultural hub.

@wuverrabbit Год назад

What isn't in this collection, is the King of Denmark (Father-in-law of Europe). Wasn't his throne. It was his wives family but a crisis happened and she basically gave it to her husband, but neither of them we're suppose to rule at all.

@FandersonUfo Год назад

brilliant title and topic

@HistoryCalling Год назад

Thank you. Inspired by none other than Prince Harry :-)

@FandersonUfo Год назад

@@HistoryCalling - indeed - I would hope Karma will keep him from ever being a "lucky spare" at this point

@HistoryCalling Год назад

Oh I certainly wouldn't ever want him to be spare again, given the kind of mass tragedy it would take to boot him back up the line of succession that far. I'm sure he wouldn't want it either. He's 5th now and might go to 4th if the King dies before any of the Wales's children have children, but after that I think he'll slowly slide back down the list again.

@FandersonUfo Год назад

@@HistoryCalling - I've seen some chat from the UK claiming we think the world of that pair in North America - nothing can be further from the truth I assure you - 🛸✨

@HistoryCalling Год назад

Interesting. I heard that their popularity was falling across the pond. I think different people are just saying different things. Probably the truth lies somewhere in the middle. It will be very interesting to see if they come to the coronation and if so, if they then use that experience for another book/interview/Netflix series/podcast.

@robnewman6101 Год назад

R.I.P Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the II. 70 Years Regin on The Throne of The UK and The Commonwealth 1952-2022. Elizabeth 1926-2022. Final resting place at Windsor Castle, down in the Valut of St George's Chapel.

@AndriaBieberDesigns Год назад

Thank God, William was born first.

@NothingToNoOneInParticular 3 месяца назад

Great vid. 2 vids I'd love to see are about the illegitimate royal children and their fates. Like Henry Fitzroy (Fitzroy meaning son of the King) the VIII's son who he wanted to make King and Princess Diana a descendant of not 1 but 2 illegitimate Royals. I find it laughable that people call her a "commoner." lol Also a vid of Mary I and Mary Queen of Scots. I know for the longest time I thought they were one in the same. I do NOT see any vids on this Mary vs Mary on youtube, you could break new ground and clarify for those of us who are not subjest to study British History, as it is glossed over in the US.

@michaelgreen1515 4 месяца назад

Given that at the beginning of the video you defined the heir/spare correctly as the children the spares being the extra children in case the heirs die. Later you go on to use the term far more loosely. A spare is an extra child, though we hope that in this day and age everyone looks upon all their children with love and care and not just commodities.

@quintuscrinis8032 7 месяцев назад

Almost feels like it would be quicker to list the monarchs who were the intended heir than the spares who became monarchs given this list. The tudors had one born heir, the Stewarts also one and the 20th century only had two of 5.

@joannabaparileszczynska Год назад

With modern healthcare and lack of wars the spare becoming the monarch is almost diminished.

@HistoryCalling Год назад

Yes, it is much less likely now, but unfortunately tragedies do still happen on occasion.

@VersieKilgannon Год назад

If Arthur had pulled through just like Catherine, there's no telling who would be the heir/spares pairs from that point on

@HistoryCalling Год назад

Oh definitely. That would have been a game changer.

@VersieKilgannon Год назад

@@HistoryCalling my husband and I were talking about it yesterday. We agreed that his death was quite possibly the most pivotal moment of the last millennium with ripple effects that could easily be connected to almost anything happening today, not just with the royal family

@Ilivedbih Год назад

I wish Arthur survived

@brontewcat Год назад

@@VersieKilgannon I agree. Ironically it was Henry VIII’s need for an heir and his quest for an annulment that led to him using Parliament to obtain this. This strengthened Parliamentary power over the next century. If Arthur had lived and produced heirs, then England’s constitutional history would probably have been quite different. It is ironic that the power of the monarchy was probably greatest under the Tudors, but it was the time when the seeds of real Parliamentary power were sown. However, the adult Tudors were very good at managing their Parliaments. They knew how to get what they wanted, but when to pull back - which is what I understand Elizabeth’s Golden Speech was aimed at doing. Another pivotal moment was the death of Henry Prince of Wales in 1612. I believe he was quite different to his brother Charles. If he had been able to work with Parliament, instead of trying to do without it because of a belief in the divine right of kings, the English Civil War may not have happened. It would have been interesting to see if the British monarchy would have still become a constitutional monarchy. I suspect so because of the power it gained under the Tudors, but maybe with a lot less bloodshed and with a less sectarian attitude to Catholics.

@VersieKilgannon Год назад

@@Ilivedbih so do I. And I wonder if the reason Catherine was such a staunch Catholic is because of Arthur's passing. I was watching a video last year that stated some of her miscarriages were her own fault because she refused to eat during fasting times while pregnant despite even the Pope himself telling her it was okay for her to eat. Perhaps losing Arthur so soon after they were married and the stress/upheaval his death caused pushed her to subconsciously view his death as some moral failing in her part. I'm just speculating 😅