What a lunatic. You guys were so calm talking to him, I would not have been as composed. Bravo on how you've handled this so far. So suspenseful! What a learning experience, not just for you, but for anyone that is thinking of buying a commercial property and watching this unfold.
Living in Canada..this would NEVER happen! I cannot for the life of me, understand the logic within this scenario. It's a riveting glimpse into the professional squatter world! Well done!! I'm praying you have a good outcome!! 🥰
The police should be waiting for him when he comes to get his belongings. Then arrest him for the criminal charges of stealing your electric, pipes etc.
This is the craziest story! That guy is living in an alternate universe thinking he was just doing you a favor. Can't wait to hear the next installment
🤯🤯 That is insane. Totally invested in this story and hope you upload the next one quickly! 😂 I think in the US our squatters rights laws are similar to the UK, except our residential laws are like your commercial property laws. It does vary from state to state though. It's completely insane. You guys seem so composed, I would have been irate!
The laws are similar. Right now we have a property in Iowa that we have some very nice neighbors going in and out of everyday to make it appear someone is there. They are very helpful, also, they probably aren't keen on having squatters next to them either. We even have the alternating lights that go on and off at different times. It's crazy how difficult to remove squatters...but pretty easy to get evicted...so strange.
You two are such a good lot. I've unfortunately got a moocher/fraudster in my distant family and they know all the laws and the loopholes to be able to live their whole lives moving from one unsuspecting victim to the next. "Michael" is just like him. Always a sob story to tell (complete lies), fast-talking, knows just what to say and do to get away with his crimes and offenses and only leaves when absolutely forced to, while trying to make his victim feel bad for the situation he caused himself. I know you don't want to anger him (he could escalate if you did) and you want to do everything by the book, but you're being loads more kind than I could be. The only truthful words out of "Michael's" mouth was when he confessed to being a "proper criminal". Please don't fall for the rest of his poppycock. Hugs & best wishes.
Thanks Thomas, I'm sorry to hear about that. This was certainly our first encounter of somebody like 'Michael' who knows the laws and their rights etc. We believed his story to be honest, but there was no way he was going to be able to stay inside the property. Thanks for watching and supporting 🙂
Bravo Lia for staying informed while being so on top of the situation and being so calm and straight forward ! IMPRESSIVE! All the best to you and AK with what sounds like a professional thief/squatter!
Just unbelievable!! He reminds me of a former boyfriend who was a master manipulator (unfortunately). Michael picked the wrong people to mess with, and I can't wait to hear the next round of your unfortunate battle with him! Much love from Jean xo
I would see how to get it passed that it's illegal for them to squat on this type of property. Obviously laws are changed. They madenit illegal to squat on a residential property, so see what it takes to get this changed. Keep your evidence and a spreadsheet of the cost to you for the number of days he was there. Not sure how taxes work there, but you may at least be able to write it off as a loss. Put his stuff in boxes and hand it to him, while all on video. Don't let him enter the property to retrieve it.
The squatter is a pro. He knows the law in terms of squatters rights and owners rights. He beat up his dad? Admits to being a "proper" criminal. Wow, unbelievable. Need to start a new channel starring "DCI Lia Hatzakis", in the world of the criminal mind. You guys are handling this brilliantly."
This is such a good series and credit to you both for showing the journey. The whole situation is shocking. I hope it all works out for you . Shame on the police for not helping. ... its unbelievable , yet if he makes a complaint on handover of his stuff, then more trouble. Record the whole thing and protect yourselves. Wishing you both all the luck. Kali tihi. Skeftoume sas. Krima !!! We work so hard and these skanks are able to do what they want for free to the detriment of hard working people. Grrrrrrr
OMG😮😮This squatter needs a good beat down. This is just so unbelievable and extremely frustrating 😤. You both are so calm about this.God bless you both. What a trifling jerk. The entitlement is shocking. How dear he. I just can't believe the audacity of some people.#Unbelievable.
It’s scary that the police won’t assist with transferring the belongings. I’m glad you were able to secure the place. It’s sad for Michael but crazy to think he thinks he’s actually doing you a favour!
Hey guys, me again. After watching this video, I have been getting video recommendations on similar topics. One that is going viral in the U.S. is where a homeowner couldn't get the police to do anything about a squatter in his home. So HE DECIDED TO SQUAT IN HIS OWN HOME, moving in along with the squatter and bringing some of his "hunting" gear. Perfectly legal. See Steve Lehto's channel id# watch?v=SPHk_6i_2aU. AK can move in with a few friends (here's where Keegan's Rugby team will come in handy). Your squatter has no recourse to call the police on you because HE can't provide proof of occupancy, but of course you can. And to make matters worse for the squatter, you have the right to be as obnoxious as you want while being there. So he wont stick around long. Not sure the legal rules are the same in the UK, but you should be able to occupy your own property.
This situation just makes me so angry. How someone feels this is okay is just unbelievable. And he actually lives down the road? And the police at this point are useless
It is a complete joke, and you are not alone in this matter. I am in the same situation. My newly refurbished property in East London, which was advertised for letting, was taken over by the squatters (non-English speaking gypsy). I nearly had a heart attack since my life savings were invested in that property. When questioned, the people living there showed a fake tenancy agreement signed by an unknown person as landlord. I know this is all set up. They even claimed to have paid 3400 pounds as rent and an advance but provided no evidence for that. Long story short, they refused to leave my property, and the police didn't even show up when called and simply said it was a civil matter. I even went to the police station to prove that since September 2012, it has been a criminal offence to squat in a residential building. The police officer over the counter simply looked at the legislation and said there is nothing he can do and that I will have to go to the county court. I am so frustrated by the police response since the squatters broke into my house, changed the locks, and used all the utilities for which I am paying the bills. Not to mention that everything in that house is brand new and refurbished. With no option, I took legal action, which is costing me thousands of pounds. I literally just got an interim possession order from the court, which in theory orders them to leave within 24 hours, but we know they won't leave. I would have to go to court again to get a warrant of eviction for bailiffs to evict them. All in all, it's a stress that I've never experienced in my life and is costing me a fortune in this cost-of-living crisis. The law must change, and the police must be educated to act and protect landlords instead of simply saying it is a civil case. I hope all ends well with you two. All the best.
Elias, i'm so so sorry to hear how bad it is. By law they have to leave 24 hours after being served the IPO or they will go to prison. Often these squatters know what they are doing and will just up and leave to the next place. All the best. Please keep us updated.
@@PropertyCouple By law, they are supposed to leave within 24 hours or they will go to prison. Only if the police, who were meant to take them to prison, turn up to take them. 🙂
That is awful, please keep us updated on how you get on. the police are useless. That is a burglary and an aggravated trespass. Lodge a complaint with the police complaints commission that they are neglecting their duty to investigate criminal offences.
This is what is wrong with class warfare. People think that “the rich” or organizations owe something to the less fortunate. This man is nothing, but a criminal and he needs to be punished and then get a job. If he is crazy, he needs to be in a home.
Probably the worst nightmare as a landlord. As a property investor myself, I have come to the conclusion that it's best to put your money in a low cost index fund and just let it there accumulate interest then having to deal with nightmare tenants. I know it's rare the situation of having to deal with these sort of tenants, but I would rather not take the chance anymore.
You guys are great story tellers. I've just discovered your channel today and I'm enjoying the content very much. Keep up the good work. I really wish you success.
This is so hard to believe - the audacity! Both of you were so self-controlled by keeping your cool while he was babbling on. Hopefully I'll get to hear the rest of the story next Sunday in person!
In the USA one cannot put people’s things out either. I was a general property manager for a realty company ( not a very good one,as I learned on the job btw ) and I ended up quitting, when firearms were drawn.
Hiya A.K and Lia, what a crazy society we live in, these squatters are the scum of the Earth, I cant believe this is in January, it dosen't matter, the front of some people, this is Choppy in Whitehaven, Cumbria, England
You guys are so kind in England!!! If this happened in New Jersey I would be sitting in the dark with my shotgun ready to blow off the head of the first invasive species that walked through My Door!!!!
@@PropertyCouple And he had the balls to say he did everything by the book??? What alternative universe are we living in??? If you need me to come out there with my baseball bat I'll be happy to take care of this for you since the police doesn't care!!!
Greetings from NYC! Just had a thought Lia, this story would make a great script. Sorry you had to go through this. Funny thing is the squatter thinks he's a smart criminal...lol. Congratulations on your upcoming nuptials. Remember, it's your day. So relax and have the time of your lives. Love is everything. ❤ Big hug, Lily
Sorry you are going through this, but this is so good. It’s like watching one of the British crime shows we love to watch here in the States. I love it when Ach said he was going to call you DCI. Ha, ha!
LOL He's a 'Proper Criminal' doing things the right way. OMG. The oxymoron and lunacy of this poor bloke leaves me speechless. GOD BLESS you two for keeping your Composure, whilst this deluded man feels entitled to steal from you. Sending lots of PEACE and BLESSINGS moving forward, hope it's smooth sailing from here on out. x
you rent what america has called a POD. its a container and you set it outside on the front lawm. fill it with squatters stuff. its a secure pod, safe from weather and thef since it is locked. its out of your property...
Wow, I’m amazed at the lack of rights/protections you all have as owners of the property. My fingers are crossed this all ends quickly and without much more trouble or delays to you.
Well done I don’t think I would have been so calm . No need for a conversation with him while he try’s to justify his actions and make his problems yours . Also with the police ( 16.36 mins ) they would be required to attend if you advise them that you have reason to believe a breach of the peace will occur even if they would rather not get involved.
Bless your hearts, this is a horrible experience for anyone. Living on the other side of the pond, as land/property owners, we are forced to deal with similar situations and it is, quite frankly a F**king nightmare. My heart really goes out to you both. Thankfully here where I live (southeast) if I catch the squatters in time, I can get them removed with a small fee paid to civil court, however, if it's been over 90 days, which it rarely is, it can be a headache to get them removed properly. I am hoping and praying that you will have success in getting the person gone with little expense and work can begin and get you on your way to seeing your returns. Best wishes! I will be following your story closely. xx
Just curious if it is legal to record telephone conversations (as you did with the police and the squatter) without the other person's knowledge and consent. Maybe they did know and consented. In eleven US states it is illegal, including Massachusetts where I live. Hope this all works out for you guys, what a terrible predicament to be in.
Thanks for your support Jan. Generally speaking, it's not illegal to record conversations without consent. But the squatter has my name and number if he'd like to take me to court for publishing on here. Once he's moved out my house.
If it's a two party requirement for consent, consent has been given by you and AK. Wishing you all the best - "proper" eviction of the proper criminal and justice for what he has stolen from you.
So the law protects the criminal. Great!!! You should be able to throw their stuff out . If it gets stolen or damaged tough. They are the ones that broke the law. 😡🤬
Wow, I can't believe the police won't at least be present as you give the guy back his stuff. Police in the US certainly would at least the PD Iworked for. I'm risking a very American comment but what the heck do you pay taxes for? You guys have patience crossing fingers it goes well!
Wow that's just crazy. I don't think that would ever happen like that in the US. I'm just baffled. I just can't even believe he has any right to get his things back. This whole thing makes no sense, it's mental. So sorry you guys are having to deal with that.
OMG doesn't it feel like your the criminal or at least the criminal has all the rights SMH here in the states we would have to go to the Magistrate Courts -ughh all the headaches. Breathing a little better with all the suspense and anxiety with listening of all your going thru. LOL Can't wait to see what happens next.......
How deluded do you have to be to actually phone you on the number and make out you were in the wrong for not getting a court order. There were some belters in that phone call, the police know him well, the CAB told him it was ok. The police should arrest him. Amazing what you can get away with in this country.
I sent a suggestion to This Morning ITV about this video. It would be good for people to know this sort of thing happens. I know I have never heard of such a thing and honestly it’s ridiculous that people can get away with it. They need to change the laws on that.
The part I hate is how he knows all his rights and how he's using them against you. However, I have the feeling that he has mental issues. Maybe a case for the psychiatric clinic?
So infuriating when the criminals have more rights than owners! And Michael is trying to convince you he’s don’t nothing wrong!!! Michael you BROKE INTO SOMEONES HOME! 😡 Waiting for the next part! Great job staying calm guys! ~Cara 😊
The "story" he told you of the situation he is in, is most likely a lie also. Don't have any empathy for him. He is a con artist at the very least ! I can't believe the laws there regarding squatters !
I actually can't believe the laws on this 🤯 it must feel SO weird to have BOUGHT a property to then be told by someone 'oh no I just live here now' and you have little to no rights to get your own fucking propert back? My mind is blown 😂 Like someones just got in your car and the police are like well its his until he gets out 🤷🏼♀️ like a very serious version of when your seat would be stolen in school and all you'd get is 'is your name on it?' 😂
At times it seems that you're almost sorry for "Michael". I think he's a professional criminal. He knows way too much about the ins and outs of the law to be just a casual down on his luck squatter.
Dude is a criminal, stay the course.I still believe you guys should write a novel…real antics are much more interesting that some Grisham fantasy. Can’t believe how calm you’ve been, well done. Looking forward to the next chapter.
Lia and Ach, I don't know how you both stayed so calm on the phone with the guy. It would've been a different story with me, but I think here in the US, we do things a little differently, especially here in the Southeast. 😆 The guy apparently has some mental issues, and did he say he beat up his dad? Crazy!
Correct that is what he said. We thought it best to be polite on the phone because we didn't want to add fuel to the fire, if that makes sense! Thanks for watching, Karen!
Oh my goodness... What a nightmare. I'm a nervous wreck just listening to this. You handled the phone call so well and glad you had it on camera so you could go back to relisten and for proof. Lia, awesome job on your reporting and detective skills with the police.
The squatter knows all the laws, so he can squat in as many homes as possible. He obviously has a bit of a mental illness, to rationalize he is in the right.
You are handling yourselves so well in this stressful, aggravating and expensive situation. You guys always rise to the situation on your videos, and set a good example. 👍
