The Stale Meme Dragoon Guide (FFXIV) 

You forgot the other type of person playing drg: the one who just wants the sick armor. It's me. I'm the other type of person.

I gave Dragon Sight to a samurai the other day and he ran away, it was so cute. 🤦‍♂️

I rolled a Lalafell and assumed I'd need lances to be able to reach anyone in combat.

Edit: Correction: You do not need to hit the positional on Fang and Claw or Wheeling trust to get the get the 5 button combo. Thanks for everyone who caught this. Hey Travelers. This one is definitely more information heavy than some of my other guides. It also ended up being a lot longer than I anticipated. I put some timestamps in to make it easier if you just want to know about certain things. My next video will probably be a little more humor focused. I'm still trying to figure out exactly how I want the rest of this series to go; but for those who are unware, I do plan to make a guide for all jobs by the end of Shaodwbringers. Let me know if you like the longer videos, because to be honest I am unsure what kind of reaction I would get.

Find the bosses rear, and proceed to thrust. Got it. 👍

You forgot the last type of person who picked up Lancer for Dragoon: I picked Viera as my starting race, and I picked Dragoon because bunnies jump. -also give Dragoon i-frames on jumping, screw balance-

"You can cancel cast times to move" No you dont- a black mage, probably

*I've been waiting for this* Edit: I should mention that you don't actually need to hit the positional to do the 5th hit of your combo. You'll do less damage, but you don't lose your combo at all. Dragoon actually does not need to do positionals at all, it is purely for damage.

People have such low expectations of dragoons, that after Copied Factory the other day I got FOUR commandations for only dying once! 👍👍👍👍

Dragoon is more of a life style than a job

I dunno if it's mentioned anywhere in the comments, but back in "the olden days", DRG also had dramatically less Magic Defense than other classes, meaning it took a ton of extra damage when getting hit by things.

"It's really smart how they did this. You don't have to flip flop for positionals" Ah, so less monky than a monk

High Jumps sometimes cancel knockbacks from the bosses and it is the most hilarious thing to see.

"you either picked dragoon for the raid buffs, saw Estinien, or wanted to know what the memes were about." I uh...I picked Dragoon cause it uses polearms as a weapon. :v

Cheers for this, the combos themselves are intuitive but the order to jumps in and when to hold life always trips me up.

They really need to make jumps give invincibility frames so the jumps work like they do in other FF games where they let you dodge attacks!

Other reasons to play dragoon: you main insect glaive in monster hunter

I’ve probably said “Dude Estinien is SO fucking cool” like 150 times and I’m only at 4.2(he’s the reason I’m leveling DRG, currently 54)

Another option for targeting dragon sight that I find very smooth is using "Set Focus Target" and "Target Current Focus Target" (both of these commands can be binded under System > Keybind > Targeting I have Target Focus Target on F, so after setting focus target (I use shift + F) on my tether buttbuddy at the start of the instance, I can use F to target them, dragon sight, and tab back to the boss without dropping gcd! Hope this helps someone

Love the effort you put into these. Thanks for the vid. I just started playing a couple of weeks ago and was kinda disappointed that theres not much comedy oriented ffxiv content creator out there. Good thing youtube recommended me your channel

Absolutely adore the effort you put into these job videos!! Keep up the good work. I,ll wait patiently for that Paladin class video. Looking forward to the one!!😁

I've been playing dragoon since i started ff14 and never knew about the pizza slice positional, at least now i can try to get more positional in without the boss mechanics getting in my way too much

I'm different you see- from the dragoons who cling on to floor tanking memes, and from you. I like the dopamine of hitting the Wheeling Thrust positional and seeing Raiden Thrust pop.

15:06 gave me a fucking heart attack. elusive jump is so scary to use on fights with death barriers

Just got done watching your Social Hierarchy video, and I must say that you're the most based and entertaining Xiv creator I have ever seen ever since I started playing in SB, you got my sub bro.

Never be ashamed of self promotion, double down on that shit. Always be pluggin

This was such a great guide. As a new Dragoon, this was super helpful. I was also laughing out loud when you pointed out that Dragoons can potentially follow a boss mob out of the arena if we time our jump just right/wrong. Things to try... :-) I really love your sense of humor throughout.

So missing the positional on the first wheeling thrust/ fang and claw doesn't actually cancel the second. You lose the positional damage but that's it. Missing the positional on the second one means you lose positional damage and Raiden Thrust.

This is gold, thanks for the info in delaying

You don't HAVE to mash your first Nastrond after Geirskogul. If you think about it, you only need 20 seconds to get 3 Nastronds out.

6:49 THANK YOU FOR THIS INFORMATION MAN.

as a Memegoon main, I approved this guide

that tip with the f keys repositions is a neat idea, props o/

I actually picked LNC/DRG as my first job because it reminded me of Richard in FFII, one of the first Final Fantasy games I played, and thought it looked cool.

I never knew the thing about the circle below the mob! Wth? I have been playing since the 2.0 o.O Thanks man!

Thank you! this was really helpful :)

I legit started this game as a DRG 100% because of Kain Highwind. Was not disappointed.

I chose DRG when I started because I am a big fan of FF Dragoons, and to this day it remains my main Job, even after doing every job.

To get the raiden thrust, you only need to hit the positional at the fifth combo that triggers raiden thrust. if it is the chaos thrust just be at the flank of the end of the chaos thrust combo. if it is full thrust combo just be ar the rear at the end of the combo. only the end of the combo matters to get raiden thrust ( you still lose some dps though less potency on the fourth combo if you don't hit the positionals)

Thank you for this video! I started playing summer 2019 and my starting class was dragon cuz spears are really cool! Estenien was pretty until after Heavensward too (best dragoon armor is the realm reborn one, change my mind!) I've been slowly trying to optimize how I play it, I play on controller and also didn't know about the half circle thing! It'll make it much easier for me. I've been using lance charge on the DoT too, guess I should change that habit and thank you for mentioning to use the second mirage dive a bit more delayed so that it's synced up with the buffs, I've been doing that part badly. I'll change my party list too to make it easier with using the buff. One thing I did notice myself recently was that I could use geirskogul with the first mirage dive and still have it up for the second mirage dive, was nice to figure out. I there are a lot of dragoons out there who are playing kind of suboptimal.

Jesus I fucking lost it on that last skyrim clip like own I am in pain from laughter

Very good video, not long ago i just realized when the tank takes a lot of time to pull the mobs i can pull them myself use arm’s length and the bloodbath to healmyself in case the tank feels offended for pulling ahead of him lol

As a Dragoon main since ARR, I approve. Thanks for fixing my opener (didn't want to break tos by parsing and too stubborn to read written guides) but given that I tend to get the most commendations when I play DRG, I suspect most people's expectations of me is to hit Battle Litany on cd and not backflip into the shadow realm. I would suggest, however, to hold on to your long cd dives at least after the opener for when you need to get greedy with positioning or when you were caught with your pants down. I use even Star Diver in this way quite frequently. It's also worth noting that the Eden series of bosses have the largest number of shite that will kill you for using jumps. Leviathan for example will kill you if you attempt to dive over platform gaps even if it looks like it's entirely doable. And Garuda's green line of death through the mid of the arena will kill you if you use high jump on her when she's hovering over it. If you ever wonder about DRGs mysteriously getting one shotted during e6, that's why.

And don't forget it's not really great when you have a 15-yard backflip on a 30-yard diameter platform! 🤦‍♂️

Small note: you shouldn't use life surge on raiden, almost all of them on full thrust. If you were to lose a use before the next full thrust, use it on Fang and Claw or Wheeling with the correct positional.

My keyboard has five macro buttons on the left side, they don't have to deal with the games weird macro one second timer thing. They work out very well. You just program them by doing the combo you want and then you can edit the milliseconds between things too. 👨‍🏫

In the skyrim outtake my earbuds got desynced so one was lagging behind on audio and it made it even better

that white mage roast for not dpsing got me ngl, still lvl 60 and I am not confident enough to exercise more dps, just spamming holy for trash mobs pulls and assize is enough for me atm

Nice first person dragoon footage at the end there

I picked LNC because the description said I get halberds. I dodn't even know they class into DRG at the time, that was just a bonus

Here's a Dragon Sight macro I've found very useful. Here's who it targets, in order of priority: your mouseover target > party member 6 (with default sorting, if there's another melee DPS, they'll be 6, and I find melee DPS the ones most likely to stay in range of the tether) > other raid DPS > party member 4 (the other DPS in dungeons) > tanks > healers > your chocobo > just yourself. /merror off /ac "Dragon Sight" /ac "Dragon Sight" /ac "Dragon Sight" /ac "Dragon Sight" /ac "Dragon Sight" /ac "Dragon Sight" /ac "Dragon Sight" /ac "Dragon Sight" /ac "Dragon Sight" /ac "Dragon Sight" /micon "Dragon Sight"

Now I sit here wait for the guide to my main class warrior

ah so that's why I died trying to jump onto Bismarck's back! I had been going crazy trying to work out what was going on

The amount of thrusting in this video is rated R

I main DRG, the rotation is so easy and comfortable compared to a lot of other DPS classes. I joke about dying all the time.

My whole childhood is in that thumbnail.

A better way to use dragon sight… /micon “Dragon Sight” /merror off /ac “dragon sight” /ac “dragon sight” /ac “dragon sight” The 2 will always target the second person in party (set your party setup for classes who have highest dps, starting with melee. The 3 is in case #2 is dead. the next line is to self cast in case you’re solo

I just chose DRG because Kaine from FF4 was cool, and when I saw the classic "Dragoon Pose" in the Heavansward trailer, I knew I had to be one.

Fun fact about my dragooning: i play dragoon for the simple reason of having cool dragoon friends

You don't lose your proc if you don't do a positional all you lose is raiden thrust if you miss the last one in the rotation. Dragoon positionals are some of the the most forgiving in the game. If you can't get the first positional on your BOTD Weaponskills hitting the last positional is what gets you Raiden Thrust. It does not matter if you hit either of the positionals prior to that last positional if you hit that last positional you will always trigger Raiden Thrust. The only thing that will break your rotation is if you accidentally use a GCD while you have your BOTD skills active.

i play dragoon cause i watched kings avatar on netflix before finding out about ff14 and the moves were fairly similar so i liked it

Don't forget since DRG is basically the skeleton in the closet to only run spooky content like doom train and the level 52 dungeon and that ghost pirate ship dungeon and die at til sea swallow us whole and high dravanian dungeon with the weird zombie general with the griffin at the end

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i play dragoon bc i watched moribito and fell in love with spears. i also am constantly disappointed by every spear wielding class 😞

Huh, and here everyone is telling me dragoon is easy and braindead. So, that was a mucking lie. Also that outro was glorious. Skyrim bugs never cease to amaze.

OR you wanted to start in Gridania as a melee DPS and therefore get all your gear crafting class req's pre 15!

RIP Dragon Sight tether, I'll miss being able to make other DPS panic on command

And knowing the fight is a huge help also with enough dedication and knowledge u can become a gr8 meme not just the dishonoring "good" meme 🥳💅💃

I thought the loldrg memes started in FFXI. Due to their Pet.

I know dragoon is a meme but after the buffs it’s factually the best dps in the game. It does less than 200 less dps than black mage and samurai but also brings raid buffs. If you guys are watching this and aren’t sure about dragoon, PICK IT UP

Bloodbath and Battle Litany when the tank gets big mobs and everyone's spamming AoEs is a LOT of fun!

That Skyrim outtake is exactly what happened when i first tried Skyrim VR... now i finally know why. (even tho it doesn't matter anymore because I immediately refunded that piece of crap)

reason 4, I played dragoon in ffxi lol. although I don't main Drg anymore in xiv

I main as a DRG. I use a controller. I have 5 Macros for Dragon Sight, 1 each (3)DPS and 1 tank in an 8-man dungeon, and 1 for my darling chocobo when we go adventuring out in the field :3 I have a hard time targetting players, macros help me with that :3

I'll just stick to tanking as DRK/WAR/PLD or healing as SCH/WHM.

Started DRG because a friend showed me Stardiver. Litertally that is the only reason. Unga bunga thrusty boi am me now.

From allthe reasons to play this job, mine is: my static forced me to learn cause they meeded a melee and dragoon whas the easiest to learn, since we already had a samurai.

I picked Dragoon as my DPS class because of FFT

Dragoon being a meme job didn't start in 2.0, it actually started in FFXI where DRG did shit damage if its pet died, since summoning its pet was its Two-Hour Ability. That, and it not having any actual 2 hour like every other job did. FFXIV only further cemented the meme in 2.0, where it not only had much longer input delay and animation lock, but DRG armor also had less magic defense than crafter gear (that's craftER gear not craftED gear) on top of Blood For Blood increasing the damage they took by 20% during their burst window meaning it died whenever the boss farted if it didn't get a personal shield. That's not an exaggeration either, you literally had to have your scholar cast an adloquium on the dragoon for Nael's megaflare because they'd drop dead if they only had a succor shield. Also, the best way to use Dragon Sight is to use a mouseover macro. /ac "Dragon Sight" Will make Dragon Sight automatically target whoever your mouse is hovering over (including if you're hovering over the party list). With this method if you somehow miss, it will still give you the buff as if you didn't target anyone, so it's as accurate and flexible as clicking on a party member without having to untarget the boss to use it. There's honestly no reason not to use an macro over clicking to target if you're using a mouse.

and if you miss the positional at the fifth combo you will not trigger raiden thrust

I picked up DRG for Stardiver and Stardiver alone

15:40 I felt that

YEP estinein cool :)

i picked dragoon cos i liked spears!

I started leveling Dragoon recently The Serotonin jumps release the good chemicals

As the "Melee Specialist" of my group, DRG is my least favorite melee job. Also I hate myself so I main MNK

I learned DRG a while back, but every time I try to dust off the class in roulettes or weekly normal raids, I just get so confused lol. Honestly it feels like I'm fighting myself more than I'm fighting the boss, the awkward "hold for another 30s" with Life of the Dragon is so wacky, and it hurts knowing that DRG's own Nastrond burst phase + lance charge rarely lines up with raid buffs like TA or Divination since it's on a 90s rotation.

I only have one question only (i hope he reads this or someone who knows about the class) IT IS WORTH IT??? I mean the rotation looks hard AF to do it 100% optimal. It is worth the trouble or any other class can deal the same or more damage with less effort??

3:19 I just choked on my drink

Skyrim : It just works

I just recently picked up Dragoon after ignoring it for 3 expansions. I’m kicking myself for not picking it up sooner

Played dragoon/lancer in pre 1.x post 1.x Still only play dragoon till this day.

Why not weave high jump between chaos thrust and wheeling thrust?

l cant wait for the karaoke stream

The amount of times Estinien gets to use Stardiver in the solo duty in the ShB patches gave me unrealistic expectations for Stardiver.

After applying the dot with the chaos thrust combo should I keep rotating to chaos thrust after a full thrust combo even if the dot is already active or do I just keep using full thrust combo until I need to reapply the dot again?

I love BLM because it's BLM and wizard, but I hate using the class because it's worse than trying to calculate the final velocity of a rocket going backwards in space towards the Sirius star system while balancing on a yoga ball and avoiding bullets from a veteran sniper. However, whenever I pick up DRG, I always get commendations. I'm a godly DRG.

I picked up dragoon cause spears are cool

That outtake looks like they're halfway to Hammerfell, if the velocity of the everything is anything to go by.

Pretty sure loldrg came from 11 where it was also a floor tank.