The tech secrets of F1’s dominant Red Bull RB18 

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Channel that does videos about even about some small weird staff conveniently ignoring big staff like how FIA is gearing to shut drivers up if it doesn't like what they have to say

Except at the beginning of the season when the car suited Checko n MADMAX complained!

@@southerncomfort1339 you realize all RB did to make the car faster was reduce the weight of the car right? So how exactly is taking weight off the car have anything to with driving styles and it not suiting Checo and whatever other excuse you can come up with. In Baku Checo out qualified Max, and then proceeded to get gapped by 20 seconds in the race, what’s the excuse for that race? Or the 15 other races I can sample from where Max is dusting the entire field and Checo is struggling to pass a Mercedes/Ferarri.

​​@@southerncomfort1339 i believe the beginning of season 2022, Max complained about reliability issues. It had nothing to do about the design being suited to Checo. Rather, Max's car had gremlins his driving style and/or adaptability can not control.

It wasn't so much them improving (reliability issues aside) but Ferrari falling backwards.

The mid-season TD, whether teams want to admit or not, affected others much more than RB.

RB is working like a well oiled machine. Ferrari clearly lacks the experience of fighting for a world championship. Given how many internal shifts there were in the past eight years, it's more or less like a young team without any experience. Cracking under pressure, not being able to develop as fast as their direct competitors. They were effectively fighting with Mercedes and not with RB.

The reason is pretty clear: TD39

They "only" had to shape up some things and do a few weight reductions. While Ferrari and Mercedes for example had much bigger concerns with their designs. I think thats what helped them throughout the season.

where was he between 2014 - 2020 ?

@@yugarten8523 working on side projects. With their less than stellar performance during the Renault hybrid years, Newey lost interest in the F1 project, and would likely have left Red Bull if he hadn't been given the option to work on cars like the Aston Martin Valkyrie. It wasn't until Honda came aboard and Red Bull could reliably challenge Ferrari and Mercedes again, that he once again started working full-time on the F1 cars.

@@yugarten8523 Saddled with underpowered Renault engines for the most part... For most of the 2010's the Renault hybrid engine was 40hp or more down, it doesn't how good your chassis or aero is with that kind of disadvantage.

@@yugarten8523 Remember when Mercedes wouldn't supply Red Bull with the best PU available for 2016 onwards? Remember how Mercedes had $40m in their budget for 2019 than Red Bull? Remember how Mercedes had that illegal tyre test in 2013? I guess not.

Newey + Max + Regs Change = 🔥

But they were slower than mecs on corners, only straights don't make it easy for your brother. Because by your logic, last year merc was the fastest car as they were the quickest in straights.

@@Ghost-fz7to yes merc and ferrari was faster through the corners but not fast enough to make up the loss they we having on the straights to redbull, a few races to point this out jedah, Bahrain, spa, monza, COTA, Mexico, Abu Dahbi, French GP, Austria just to name a few these tracks. but if you take quali out of it cause ferrari had the faster quali car all year tbh. the redbull straight line speed gave then huge advantages in the race when DRS could not be used vs everyone else. SO about last year merc at the start of the year it was slower than the redbull until Silverstone where the upgrades they brought unlocked the cars true pace, from there the merc and redbull were more or less equal only specific tracks showed the advantages of the cars example dutch GP and qatar last year really showed how the car specific features can be good and bad points. redbull began running skinny wings in the 2nd of the season to try and match the merc new straight line speed but they still had the downforce to match the merc. while merc were running bigger rear wings to get the extra downforce they needed so both teams had a advantages then began making compromise to make up for the other. you could say brazil, jedah and last race of last season hamltion straight line speed advantage was more down to him been able to run that new engine at a much higher mode as it was basically built for 3 races so he had way more power, if you compared his speed to bottas was so running the engine in the more normal mode to last more races.

A dominant F1 car is never down to one specific component. Everything has to work together perfectly. Only then its possible to have a dominating car. So saying the suspension was the main factor - the argument is diffucult to sustain, especially as the Ferrari was not less effective in the first half of the season when riding kerbs etc. At the end of the day, if anything, then it was the aerodynamic concept of Red Bull. It relied more on diffuser performance with tunnels with a high roof and a lot of vortices creators. They opened up the diffusers sidewalls and energised the vortices by air from the top the floor. Their car bssically worked more like a flat-floor car, less dependant on low ride heights. The Ferrari on the other hand, with very low tunnels relied more on floor performance itself, dependant on low ride heights. As TD39 basically made higher ride heights mandatory, the aero concept of the RB18 benefitted, while the concept of the F1-75 suffered negatively. So - at the end of the day it was without a doubt the aero concept of the RB18 that was the true secret, and it has to be said that the reason was a midseason change in the technical regulations. Some fans of Red Bull and the RB18 may not like it - but its not only a fact, but technically as simple as clear and like simple maths.

don't forget suspension rules were changed this year hydraulic suspension was outlawed

Excellent points! Don't forget the aluminium stiffening brace for the floor located inside the sidepods too, that was much more effective than stays. Minimising porpoising instabilities was taken into account in the original design of the RB18, which did not seem to be the case for every car on the grid!

@@TassieLorenzo the fact they crack the porpoising puzzle early with the sculpted sidepods was key as well

So who won the who is the smartest battle

@@vinnie4v277 Yes, that's how F1 works. It's an engineering competition. The driver is necessary to finish the job but represents maybe 5-10% of the final performance level.

@@TassieLorenzo You couldnt explain it better

Absolutely - and exacerbated by other teams blundering on design philosophy and strategy.

Exactly a dominant car would be more like W11 where everyone else had years of engineering but couldnt come close to it

@@san-joshuabarrett that's the 🇬🇧 way

hannah absolutely slamming the rest of the grid tbh

That's why the video says "tech concepts" you are focusing on people, the easy part. Ironically, you forgot to mention Christian and Helmut, who put those people there and gave them the right resources.

Rb was only the best car after summer break.... So ferarrinwas the much better car for the majority of the season. They just made mistakes

Bro that was over 25 years ago , I can't even remember what I did last week

@@Rampage1Rules Just cuz your memory is dogshit doesn’t mean everyone else is the same.

@@quigglyz lol , like yours isn't?

That was quarter of a century ago and he did his dissertation on sports cars. Not F1

@@quigglyz I don't even remember why I was typing this comment

It says that Checo is an average midfield driver lucky to be in a RB. Max is good but not as far off Lewis or Charles as Checo makes him look.

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Ferrari and Mercedes have similar shift of personel to gain knowledge, but it's definitely unfair for teams like haas or alpha romeo who don't have the money to do such projects. It's incredibly hard to police this, as companies are allowed to spend their money on any projects they want outside of F1, and they can gain at least knowledge for their engineers, but the FIA can't deny them that. The big teams will always be big, unless we introduce some kind of artificial capping, where you lose performance the more success you have, but that just goes against the spirit of F1.

Yeah and Mercedes came out with the AMG one which literally has an Mercedes F1 hybrid engine in it. And engine development is supposed to be frozen.

@@stevenst6337 it didn't use ground effects and also the amgf1 is ancient at this stage

@@mahdixn oh 100% it's unfair and near impossible to police. Honestly i think f1 teams doing road legal/track cars that are similar to their f1 cars shouldn't be allowed use that knowledge e.g setup a different company/building where that knowledge stays but then again how the hell can that be policed

@@stevenst6337 The AMG one uses a modified version of Mercedes’ 2015 engine and the only real developments they did were to make it viable for a road car.

Or reliability issues. Newey’s issues in McLaren were he would push the boundaries so much and his design tolerances were so tight that unchecked they would lead to reliability issues.

It was mostly a Mercedes issue.

@@mignik01 in fairness there were also car issues. Even to the Red Bull days we sometimes have unreliable cars

@@raymondu99 His philosophy has always been to push for a good concept if the benefits justify it. He put the KERS battery between the engine and the gearbox. A very difficult place engineering wise but made sense in packaging and once they made it work, others couldn't simply copy it. This is why Newey's cars always for better throughout the season.

@@mignik01 nothing I said is contradictory to what you said. It also doesn’t change that he has a reputation for making unreliable cars. For example your arguments don’t apply to the RB5 and that had sloppy reliability too

Why‘s that? :)

@@23BoneCrusher666 Because an oversteering car is always quicker through a corner than an understeering car. Or as they say in NASCAR: "Loose is fast".

@@bowelrupture so they can take more speed into the corner. Am I getting this right?

​@@23BoneCrusher666 Yep. Basically, having a car that understeers would greatly reduce your entry/exit speeds, as you would need to enter the corner on a much slower speed just to allow the car to rotate.

I like how everyone thinks there’s some magical upgrade they did to completely change the driving style of the car lol. All of their upgrades were mostly related to weight reduction which is a simple way to gain pace. In some people’s minds I guess they should’ve left the car overweight and let Ferarri and Mercedes out develop them just so it can suit Checo better, talk about hilariously bad strategy.

Thank Mercedes for that one lol

Comparing a high a downforce track with a low downforce track? What a genius you are my god.

Cause checo is a midfield driver

@crispinbell9910 in a 2019 merc

@CrispinBell russel and sainz have shown that they can compete against their current teammates. Perez hasnt

Which team do you support?

@crispinbell9910the only reason perez won that race was because george got a puncture

A bounce is a single reaction to a track feature. Porpoising is a continued, uncontrolled bouncing that happens at a frequency which is relative to the vehicle's speed (caused by the suspension's inability to deal with aero effects). Porpoising can be initiated by a single bump, but does not have to be.

it's the car to beat this entire year for sure but I don't think it's on the W11/MP4-4/W07's level

Rb9 is more dominant

mercedes was better in 2021, it was the redbull that was trying to catch up.

@@mvh996that rb was clear of the mercedes what are you talking about

@crispinbell9910 but performance is only the external factor. What affects the performance are several factors including internal ones. So, only judging by the performance alone is not accurate because it doesn’t give the whole picture.

Yeah I mean RB did have a 1-2 like every weekend. Oh wait......

Maybe write a few more dissertations to help cope with the fact that Verstappen is better than your favourite driver.

Well, it's obv you just a salty toxic fanboy that can't handle that merc was bad this year. Move on kiddo

It means Ferrari wasn't good enough right? You need to be good all season to win.

ya, ppl have come up with some weird theories to justify how the breach is EXACTLY the reason y RB won.!!

If they had stayed within the cap no one would question them so they did it to themselves

@@ApplesAndOranges188 its not abt questioning them abt the costcap, anybody can question them abt it. the ridiculous thing is saying they won the championship just because of the cost cap breach, especially considering it was a very minor one.thats just nonsense.

It's where you unzip your pants and walk in front of a urinal

Given that, in the RB18, Red Bull have a solid basis to work from, they'll relatively easily manage with less development time. There's already a lighter monocoque that could be worth extra tenths, and we already know Red Bull is less affected by ride height changes, so next year's regulations change little to nothing on that front. That leaves just the standard iterative work on the car, which can be relatively cheap.

There's a RACE video this year that mentions the more unstable rear (Max's preferred setup) is overall faster concept than a stable rear setup (Checo's preferred setup) thus the natural progression of car development does sway towards Max

The beginning of the year the car had understeer and Checo was still slower. He fluked a podium, that he admitted himself he couldn't do again with 1000 laps. What they need to do is replace Checo with a better driver. Just FYI, Villenueve said in 2020 that Newey prefers to design a car this way because it's quicker, or has the potential to be quicker. So it's probably more likely that they wanted a driver like Verstappen who could drive a car the way Newey wants to make it.

@@halofreak1990 yes, it is a complete package.

@PC_Modder It was not a bad video. Then again how do you keep pumping content in the off-season when nothing happens?

It was ferraris plan the whole time start of season they said this is a year for making reliability and ironing out issues

Yep. You can turn a powerful unreliable engine into something reliable. But a slow, reliable engine can't be made faster with this freeze. I think Alpine was doing the same.

The car in which Vettel won his 9 consecutive races in 2013 was high up there as well.

Cough RB9 Cough

Mercedes weren’t targeted by regs in 2021. Mercedes happened to suffer, but the 15% downforce reduction was done at the request of Pirelli to prevent extreme tyre wear and blowout (after all, why would they design a whole new tyre for just one season). It was actually predicted that the changes to the floor would affect the high rake cars like Red Bull and Alpha Tauri more. Due to the higher rear height, CFD showed the lessened ability to seal the sides of the floor with vortices to be quite harmful to them. CFD doesn’t always translate into reality however, and the reality was that Mercedes weren’t as well adapted to the technical changes as other teams. This combined with Honda making strides in their engine led to the W12 and RB16B being somewhat level. It’s not targeting, if it were targeted we would have seen Mercedes drop down the grid like Ferrari in 2006, not be a frontrunner…

@@tyler_bt3326 Honda's 2021 engine was completely new design completed in 6 months

@@classicsportclassictiyl8547 I know