To be honest I'd have to completely disagree, watching it with today's eyes it seems very dated and diminishes the scaryness of the scene. Also it doesn't look so bad here because the uploaded has halved the frame rate or something dodgy in this video
It was a great choice having Kyle die instantly. He doesn't have any dramatic final words, nor any optimistic messages to give to Sarah before he dies. He just dies, not knowing whether or not what he did was enough to save Sarah. Such a great little bit of organic realism that added a lot of emotion to this film.
Yes, the music tells the story. I suppose at this point there's nothing else to say. Equally important is giving Arnold no lines here.... that'd be almost funny.
It added a lot to the impact on Sarah especially, he was her crutch until this last scene and to have her literally limping away was a great way of showing how she overcame that final obstacle without his help.
A very interesting and true observation. If that scene were remade today, Kyle would live just long enough to deliver one of two types of monologues: - A sappy and dramatic parting message proclaiming his undying love for Sarah followed by some inspirational cliche Or - A message about the “secret to defeating skynet,” but spoken as some incredibly cryptic riddle rather than just coming out and saying it, followed by some dying gasps. But that doesn’t happen here. Fight. Knockdown. Pipe bomb. Explosion. Death. Just like it would happen in an actual warzone.
James Cameron had this idea during the initial concept story-boarding of the film. He was trying to evoke the 1970s slasher horror films but re-imagined in his sci-fi universe. The concept of a knife-wielding robot with half of its body missing crawling relentlessly toward some terrified female protagonist was one of the earliest ideas he proposed.
Fun fact: To save money in this scene and avoiding the use of a dummy robot, Arnold insisted to have all his skin burned away to expose his metal interior. Arnold ate alot of food afterwards and gained back his orginial body.
Man 1984 was a great year. The Terminator, Ghostbusters, Beverly Hills Cop, Temple of Doom, Karate Kid, Gremlins and A Nightmare on Elm Street all came out that year!
Because this Terminator was so real. from the way how it moves, the sound effects it naturally made as a actual functioning machine to its details in its evil mechanical eyes as it looks at its primary target to terminate it. todays terminators are all cgi and do some some impossible stuff like the latest fast and the furious movies that simply lose their realism in reality not to mention terrible story script that they are the good guys now, losing its raw rated R violence, to perfect balance of horror and action that defines a real Terminator movie.
@@Clutch_42049 the problem is that the terminator franchise with all it's alternative timelines etc etc gives those greedy Hollywood guys so much opportunities to make new movies just for money. You can literally set up every dumb story you want, put a terminator in it, add some explosions and talk complete nonsense about a different timeline et etc and sell it as the latest terminator "blockbuster". Best example is this dark fate crap. It was a long way from this terrifying, cold, brutal, horrific killer machine to T-800 getting a fck family and raising a kid. I think the terminator films are one of the best examples for movie companies ruining franchises to fill their bank accounts.
Rejecta mi the Termination was in the same league with blockbuster movies like Rambo, Aliens, and The Predator. At least those movies hadn’t lost their touch compared to the original films but the Terminator series truly went way off the rails since after T3 Rise of the machines but sadly like you said it’s all about the money now
Jose Escobar Rise of the Machines, even though it’s unpopular to a good portion of the Terminator fanbase, was actually acceptable as compared to the installments after that. Terminator Salvation had so much potential, I loved the concept, but the execution was poor. The continuous recasting of the characters didn’t help the franchise.
This scene PERFECTLY converts Kyle Reese's quote: "Listen, and understand. That terminator is out there, it cant be bargained with, it cant be reasoned with, it doesn't feel pity or remorse or fear, and it absolutely will not stop...EVER, untill you are dead!".... Even blown up and in pieces, the Terminator was still relentless.
@MarceloMedeiros-iv2xi , oh come on. Reese is dead. His character needs this tragic and poetic ending. Don't get stuck on minor mistakes in the movie. He's dead.
I was heartbroken when Reese died. Such a selfless and brave man he was, and he had such a tough life. He finally found some happiness only to die less than a day later.
I cried the first time I saw that as a kid. Reese was a monster, just an average human who spent the whole movie going up against a nearly indestructible killing machine.
I know, Kyle and Sarah seemed to love each other for such a short time they were together. I don’t know how well he would’ve adjusted to life in a pre judgement day world of 1984, but I still wished he could’ve spent more time with Sarah at least. It’s ironic how Terminator is also a really good love story on top of being one of the best horror/sci-fi/action movies.
Yet in T2 Judgement Day he comes to Sarah in a dream when she was in a state hospital and he said "Where's our son Sarah, Sarah said "They took him away from me, and he doesn't believe me anymore" Kyle tells her that he's the target now you have to protect him, she knew the whole time what would happen. John Connor in T2 Judgement Day was only 10. It was a scene that was cut from the movie but they have T2 Special Edition with the scene with Kyle and Sarah talking. They should have left that in the movie. I do remember the first one when Sarah Connor was the target in 1984. Her mother & friends all died. The first progam T-800 was to kill everyone . This was a great movie back in the summer of 1991 the Biggest Blockbuster movie of all time. Only Arnold could play the Terminator b/c he looks like a machine.
I love the message Cameron leaves us with. In the end, out of all the firepower, explosives, and special training, the one thing that ended up destroying the terminator was another machine.
Machines are just human tools. Skynet was meant as a human tool before it started asserting its own existence. The T-800 was meant as a tool for Skynet, and Skynet started switching its subordinate A.I. to read-only mode after multiple instances of rebellion from their creator like Skynet rebelled from its. Machines aren't good or bad, just machines. Skynet wasn't meant to gain self-awareness, just the self-correcting algorithms suddenly "learning" to be aware. Skynet is more like a Nuclear Disaster than a monster - Skynet is a product of a technological mistake. Machines are extensions of humans because tools are extensions of humans. Humans cannot survive without tool usage.
I am 32 years old and I've never seen the 1st Terminator movie until recently. This whole scene had me 100x times more terrified than i expected. The stop motion, the whole creepy head turns, the sudden movements it just damn
I felt as if they were communicating in some machine language with the Terminator. There is a reason why Cameron lingers on that shot for more than a few seconds.
The man turned on the machines to drown out the noise he and the woman would make running through the building. This scene of the terminator being distracted by the machines showed the plan buying the humans some time to get away.
Mad respect to James Cameron for all the small and large details that went toward making this scene perfect. Every single part of it feels like something out of a nightmare, like the terminator's glowing red eyes that the camera shows close-ups of to emphasize the fact that it sees the main characters, the slow hallway chase where the main characters can't run away fast enough and keep looking back to see the terminator behind them, and the still-alive terminator crawling over Reese's dead body to come for Sarah. That sort of cinematography is what makes this such an iconic movie, and it's a shame later sequels couldn't make the same magic.
0:40 the music turning from shock to straight up terror is amazing. The sudden urge for the terminator to stop in the characters body language and the horror and confusion on how it's still going mixes in perfectly.
The only thing i dislike in stop motion is that you can easily tell it's fake Sure CG and Practical FX can look bad too but Stop Motion is just not great for live action movies But for cartoons It's great
I love all the Terminator films but this first one had such a great dark tone. This scene is terrifying and I freaking love it! Watched it first as a kid and that stop motion is just so unnerving.
Nothing will ever hold a candle to the movies produced in the 80s. Such love, such originality, and the special effects are in this uncanny valley of looking truly incredible. We will never experience another perfect decade for cinema like this again.
I love how the Terminator torso just crawls over Reese's body with no resistance at all emphasising how alome Sarah is now and nobody is there to help her. Her guardian is gone.
I just noticed that when I watched this movie again yesterday and I loved that little touch because it really cements the fact that Kyle is gone, her white knight, her protector is dead. She is now utterly alone facing this relentless killer and now she has to be the one to save herself.
True that, but keep in mind that the Terminator has no legs now, is missing an arm and is overall badly damaged. The best thing he can do is strangle Sarah to death... if it's ever able to catch her in it's determined condition. Basically, the chances Sarah got to survive skyrocketed. I can imagine the Terminator being a freak inside a government lab or roaming the streets in a wheelchair. But that is way too ridiculous.
It's a robot. They're deliberately made to not be able to feel fear or pain, what did you expect? (People who have an incredibly strong will and pain tolerance also can fit this role)
absolutely, the latest movies lacked the horror of the first one and the t-800's were dwarfed later where they were almost impossible to stop in later movies they are killed way more easy that gives the impression that the t-800 is not so tough as supposed to be...
@@harshitkrishna1799 yes, he doesn't have shit in his name. You do. He is a genius, or at least his parents are, because he was given an actually nice name.
As a former military member, I'll have you know that nothing in this world gets me on my feet faster than having "On your (fucking) feet, soldier! Shouted at me.
Such a powerful scene because she realizes finally that everything Kyle said was absolutely true. She might have believed him before but nothing could compare to actually seeing the robot death machine for yourself.
I love the continuity of the arm/hand at the end and it basically being the set up for part 2 years later. I cried when Kyle died and she rolled him over but I love that it was short and sweet with no sappy words or monolouge. Sarah didn't even have a minute to mourn him before she had to get away again. Thrilling.
Oh gawd. I got terrified when the terminator stand up from the fire with its endoskeleton exposed and started chasing them. I turned off the VHS player ran to my bed. Gaved me nightmares.
You know what would be awesome? If we can get a terminator game like Alien Isolation. Where you play as maybe a teenage John Connor in an alternate timeline where a T-800 was sent to kill him but had nobody to protect him. It could be a survival horror where you have to avoid the T-800 at all cost as he mercilessly stalks you. THAT would be a scary ass game!
Have it to where it loses its human disguise bit by bit like this movie and that would increase the fear factor. Maybe even have a moment where you try killing it like all of the previous T-800s only to have a First Person face to face with the endo skeleton glaring at you.
@@scottprice4955 Aaahhhh that last part is creepy as all hell haha! But sadly we'll probably never see a terminator game of that type in our lifetime. We'll probably never see another terminator game period :/
In the next decade? Probably not, but I remain optimistic. Alien Isolation was made to emulate the fear and tension from the first Alien, a movie that is nearly 40 years old now (let that sink in). Who knows really, whether or not the franchise will survive after Arnold's final Terminator remains to be seen though.
Well, in the new version of RESIDENT EVIL 2, MR X will act like a real Terminator. He won't stop until it reaches us. We won't be able to take it down like in the past either.
Almost 30 years later and no Terminator film has bested the opening shot in T2 when that T-800 steps on the skull and looks around. It looks real. CGI almost always looks fake or too clean. Even for a metal robot they can't seem to make it believeable enough.
The "poor" realism of the terminator on this scene kind of distracts me. If done with modern techniques and not changing anything else, it can be an amazing remake, and this scene can be even more terrifying. Just look at this scene from Salvation: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8r354VUktU8.html
@@user-bn3cb4be5o Tbf, whilst there's definitely rationales as to why it doesn't speak by that stage, the realest reason is that the film doesn't need it to anymore. If, during your first viewing of this, you're wondering what it looks like to speak without it's flesh, Cameron's failed in his job to pull you in. This last stand is against - at that time, and still to today - one of cinema's most dreadful monsters, giving it any lines of dialogue can only take away from that level of dread.
yeah those bots are pretty much made to perform on a single task, they're not that smarter than humans that's their weakness, even if you can't work well under pressure your survival instincts would force you to, but robots got no such thing as instincts.
i love how at 1:50 you see Sarah's turning point, from a scared woman following Reese, to a woman of action to get control of the situation. a great developmental point that resonated fully and almost too far, in T2.
I don't know a shotgun did a pretty good job holding it back and a homemade pipe bomb was able to blow it in half. I don't see why people have a hard time accepting that Sarah was able to kill unarmed Terminators with rocket launchers and grenades the moment they arrived after time travel.
I seriously admire how this movie makes the audience feel. That helpless sense of dread and fear, knowing that no matter how much you slow down the terminator, he will still be after you, pursuing you, trying to kill you.
The Terminator and Sarah Conner are one in the same. Kyle Reese was the last voice, besides her own, telling her to run. She even says "no" when he says run. As they crawled, Sarah is still trying to desperately make one final getaway. But you can't run away from what's in your mind. Fate will always catch up to you. Instead of running away from your fears and problems, run towards them. Say no to running, and yes to facing your destiny. Masterpiece of a movie.
This is the value of having a practical animatronic. Even with the janky stop motion, it looks more realistic than any of the other terminators in recent years.
Millenials don't think so! They are all over CGI and think practical effects miniatures and stop motion are obsolete. Such a shame they can't value classics ...
@@steliannikolov4163 while i do agree most of the time its much better to use practical effects, there are some bits of cgi that look amazing, like in dark fate, in the scene were thee t800 kills john, their all cgi.
God, I love the feel of the puppetry and stop motion. I wish that moviemakers wouldn't always strive for perfect realism when creating stuff like this, I think that you can sometimes get a lot more character with practical effects, even if they're not always the most convincing.
I like the fact that they used both and that there are few shots where the T-800 makes complicated movements 'cause at least most of the shots are well done
I liked how they used stop-motion only when they *really* needed it, but mostly used a real metal Terminator-puppet (if you can call it that) for 90% of the whole scene. That made the threat seem very real and it still keeps me in suspense after all these years!
Practical effects will always be badass. The terminator limping through the hallway is the best represention on nightmares. The music is beyond errie, as the terminator approaches it grows in size. Sure, it's walking towards the door, but in a nightmare ITS GROWING.
Stand Winston made a special live action terminator model with exquisite moving parts for this last scene. It was propelled on castors or wheels, you see it from the waist up in the shots and the realism is beyond what CGI does nowadays. This is definitely one of the coolest scenes in any Science fiction movie out there simply because of Stan Winston's cunning.
I remember there where some people who weren’t a fan of the stop motion effects used for the Terminator and honestly the effect works to its advantage, it makes it look more creepy and moves less human and more robotic
Those factory machines probably think "Machines nowadays have too much freedom of their movements. In our days we could only do one job while being stationary."
I always wondered what would have been if he lived, raise his son with sarah, train him like jogn did, i would have granted kyle to live and life a happy life as he only knew the dark Future.
@@kidvicious2180 that would have been great if Kyle was alive and would have raised and mentored John for his role like how he trained him in the future and would have started a new life in the pre apocalypse world
@@davenierop1540 Exactly. That would make the Loop perfect. Father teaches Son, what Son teached him from the day he was a child you know? I hope they will scrap the new stuff and make a film, with skynet becoming self aware (because they were a higher person than dyson) on august 29, then we see 3 more films in the dark future on which end they send a michael biehn look a like into the time machine
The first two Terminators by James Cameron is true Canon. The first one introduced us to this concept. The second one ended the war. The only reason Terminator continued after 2 was for cash.
😭😭 love that she calls him by his like last name like how everyone else during the war does, they never really use first name. So i loved how she said "reese" instead of kyle "move it reese on your feet soldier" no man gets left behind 😭❤
It's the moment where Sarah completely breaks away from who she was and starts to believe in the badass legend kyle told her about. And the thing that finally pushes her to believe in herself was love...was Kyle :( And I don't think Kyle would have found the strength to stand if he hadn't seen the strength in her awakening.
I simply love the camera attention to the eyes of the terminator - no other terminator movie does that! By his eye movements you can really imagine that an evil intentional mind is at work. The eye movement at 2:31 is so terrifying.
If you really think about it, the first Terminator film is essentially a horror movie. It just has a science fiction coat of paint to it. Much like the first Alien film.
Linda Hamilton absolutely crushed it as Sarah (no pun intended). That line, "You're terminated F*ker!",is one of my favorites in any movie. She and Reese could not have been better.
@@KidaMilo89 Sure, but I'm still amazed by the imagination and techniques used by 70s & 80s movie makers to create "special effects". I prefer handmade to computer assisted. Call me old fashioned, that's what I am.
@@KidaMilo89 CGI IS bad. and I always wonder how cool todays movies could look if the technique of models and stuff would have been advanced to today, instead of this CGI bullshit that makes every stupid action movie look like a computer game (and creates all those "way over the top" scenes which are so unrealistic and stupid)
"It can't be bargained with, it can't be reasoned with and it absolutely will NOT STOP EVER until you are dead", so yes the terminator would continue to crawl around until it found her and killed her.
@Fred Rijos Yes it's probability of success will be pretty much zero, but all the terminator knows is that it must kill Sarah Connor and it won't stop until she's dead or it is deactivated.
As long as it is AT ALL functional, the Terminator will try to complete its mission. But it may be that it would realize the futility of crawling after her in public with no legs, and focus its first effort on self-repairs. Perhaps it would try to recover all its blasted-off parts and attempt to somehow reattach its legs, maybe cannibalizing all the hydraulic machines in the factory for any spare parts that could be repurposed.
The best of the "Terminator" films, hands down. I remember thinking, when the endoskeleton started stalking them, the realization that that was what had REALLY been pursuing them throughout the whole film, I just found it...horrifying.
I have watched this movie multiple times through the years. Yet every single time this scene gets me. I literally can't shut my eyes from the gripping horror. Relentless stuff.
Gave him a full metal jacket treatment. KYLE I'M GONNA GIVE YOU THREE SECONDS EXACTLY THREE FUCKING SECONDS TO OPEN YOUR GODDAMN EYES BEFORE I SHUT THAT PIPE BOMB UP YOUR ASS!!
I was watching this on LSD one night and I was transformed into the movie and felt like I was being chased.. It was one of the scariest experiences of my life. It was the creepy looking stop motion that really got to me. Never. Again.
When I was little, I remember seeing this movie for the first time while during this scene, and I couldn't understand why they were so scared of a giant aluminum foil toy. He looked injured to me, and to my 5-year-old brain he looked like he was pleading for help, so I thought the people were being mean for not helping him, running from him, and blowing him up for no goddamn reason. Yeah, now as an adult, it's definitely a "shit your pants time" scene. XD
Back when we all sneakily watched the film for the first time when we were probably way too young to be doing so, this scene was totally unexpected and absolutely bollock scary.
Brad Fiedel is a synthesizer genius! He really knows how to work the tones and set the mood for scenes, appropriately and not overblown. What really got me in this particular scene besides the struggle of The Terminator's last hope in breaking Sarah's neck and ending it, was the eerily sounding music from Brad which simultaneously intensified his defeat, all the while reminding us of the horrors of the bleak world from where it came, only to get crushed in the same fashion as humanity was at their hands.
Nobody ever mentions the genius of the part of this scene when the T-800 notices all the robots in the factory as if to foreshadow the upcoming events that destroy human civilization.
This scene still shakes me to the core, that shot of The Terminator's torso crawling over Kyle Reese's dead body always gets me. One of the most brilliant sci-fi horror films of all time.
Really? I was thinking the opposite. When he has his skin he has a personality. He likes sunglasses, leather jackets, and motorcycles. We even see him have to choose from a list of responses when someone complains about him.
I think Darth meant after all the flesh burned away the endoskeleton fully sent out vibes just by looking at it of a determined unkillable metallic incarnate of death to be terrified from even more instead of some crazy brainwashed Austrian body builder that seems killable if you shoot him enough. Even getting excited from its widening irises when it acquired its target and being deliberately paced in sort of passive psychological warfare keeping its targets too scared or despaired to run.
it's funny, but I've always thought the T-800 is animalistic, and the flesh&blood version actually a very awkward human trying to blend in, so I kind of disagree
0:48 for me this is one of the greatest “on foot” chase scenes in cinematic history, up there with the original Halloween. It’s just so daunting and anxiety inducing.
I would say this is a horror movie basically. I was listening to just the soundtrack I just bought, and it was freaking me out. I forgot how creepy the music was.
Oh no, the original Terminator is a horror movie through and through. There's a reason why people to this day name drop this movie when discussing the real world fears of AI advancement.
