For those who are confused with Thailand doing nothing, Thailand mainly defended its own territory with several skirmish along the border. Since Thailand knew their native ground and since both were veteran in jungle combat, the result is pretty much stalemate
Hoàng Nguyên I think you're forgetting that there were *allies* who were supportive of the DRV. Notably China, Khmer Rouge, North Korea, Soviet-Union, etc. There were 'soldiers' sent in to Vietnam during the conflict even though it was mostly China that gave Vietnam the most crucial supplies and equipment that helped them defeat the South. The great irony of the allies however is that Vietnam now a days is more 'inspired' by the United-States unlike China who would've ended up invading briefly on 1979, and both-nations aren't really on friendly grounds.
Captain Soumpas I can see where you're at, Vietnam following the Indochina-Wars was in a crisis with agriculture, economy, living-conditions, etc. It wouldn't be until the mid 1980s and 1990s that the nation would've improved drastically, though there are still problems relating to political-corruption.
How awful a leader do you have to be, that even after your neighbor spent the past 30 years fighting France, Japan, France again, itself, and the US, it decides to declare war on *you?*
@Plumpypuffer No, USA was the aggressor. It had troops in South before the war started. There was supposed to be a democratic election to unite all of Vietnam, and the candidates were the communists vs capitalists. The capitalist government in the south was so bad and corrupt even USA knew the communists would win. Most Vietnamese supported the communist side. But USA was on the defensive side a lot because a major offensive could start a war with China or even World War III.
There's also to mention that Khmer Rouge and their allies withing Cambodia also fought a guerrilla campaign against Vietnam and its Cambodian puppet. Another element of the war was the Hmongs and Lao Royalists, supported by Thailand, China and the US, revolting against the Laosian government, supported by Vietnam. And then there's the Thai Communist Party, supported by Vietnam and Laos, that fought its own guerrilla campaign against Thailand's government, supported by the US. Not to mention that even during the Vietnam War, FULRO, an alliance of Montagnard, Cham and Khmer rebel groups in Vietnam, fought both Vietnams and the US, and after the Vietnam War ended was tacitly supported by the Khmer Rouge and China against Vietnam.
@Hoàng Nguyên By making it a communist puppet? Also, the so-called "war" in Thai's perspective is merely an insurgency on the Northeastern Thailand, since Thailand didn't considered it a "war", that's why they didn't go all out.
@@jawed4106 The country is also mountainous, and theyre guerilla experts. The extensive logistics systems, and tunnels they built across Indochina was insane. Best to just leave it alone.
And well, I'm sure that I can get hate for saying this, but.... Cambodia, in fact, actually invaded Vietnam first, and killed many innocents from villagers and islands.
My father studied the Vietnam war, Vietnamese history and also this conflict in the University of Hanoi. Here's what he told me, in case anyone's curious. After the end of the Vietnam War, Vietnam was battered and had to go through the long process of reuniting its nation. To its north laid China, which expected repayment for its support in the Vietnam war. China essentially sought to bring Vietnam into the Chinese sphere of influence. To the west was Cambodia, under Pol Pot, who dreamed to bring back the days of the Khmer Empire, which included regions of Vietnam, including the second biggest city, Ho Chi Minh City (more commonly known by its old name, Saigon). Pol Pot is famous for being one of the greatest butchers in human history, murdering 30% of his own population. He target the Vietnamese a lot as well. By the time the Vietnamese had conquered Cambodia, there was practically no Cambodian Vietnamese people left. They had either been expelled (80,000) or straight up murdered (20,000). Eventually, this conflict broke out between Cambodia and Vietnam. Vietnam was actually very reluctant to enter this war, as I said it had been battered after the Vietnam War. However, it kind of had to because Cambodia invaded Vietnam and slaughtered 3,000 civilians in the territory it captured. As such, Vietnam reluctantly invaded Cambodia and overthrew the Khmer Rouge regime. Despite being a Communist country as well, China was furious at this. Cambodia was in the Chinese sphere of influence and the fact that Vietnam had just invaded and toppled the pro-China regime was unacceptable to China. As such, they sought to "teach Vietnam a lesson" and invaded. They made some gains (as you can see in the video) however their advances stalled, and against all odds, the Vietnamese pushed them back to the border. This humiliating defeat was an embarrassment to China and permanently harmed Sino-Vietnamese relations. From here, Vietnam would be a Soviet aligned state as opposed to a Chinese aligned state. In fact, to this day Vietnam and the USA have quite good relations in a common hatred of China. Interestingly, out of all the countries polled in the 2018 Pew Research Centre poll asking people if they had a favourable or unfavourable opinion of the USA, Vietnam had the highest percentage of people with a favourable view of the USA (84%), surpassing even the United States! Interestingly, the United States and some other western countries actually supported Pol Pot in this war, despite him being a firm Communist. This was purely over resentment towards Vietnam. Thought this might be interesting to some.
Couldn't have put it better as a Vietnamese myself, thanks man. We know we are only pawns in the scheme of the world but we will unapologetically affirm our independence and sovereignty. At the end of the day, we just wanna be friends and hang out with everyone, as long as they respect us and our sovereignty
Who would’ve guessed when you send your entire population to the countryside to farm, there would be no one protecting the cities or producing weapons in your factories.
The funniest thing about the war is that America supported the insanity Khmer Rouge, while the USSR supported Vietnam, who actually tried to help Cambodia. This war really blurs the distinction between good and bad in the cold war.
@@kwazooplayingguardsman5615 America also supported the Khmer Rouge, because they wanted to screw over Vietnam, and because america is great at choosing the worst candidates to support in asia.
@@mshaqed2538 They didn't, They didn't give the khmer rogue any military or financial assistance. To the U.S, what they wanted to do was to cozy up to China hoping that by providing concessions, they would be able to democratize the nation. (completely naive way of thinking, the only way to eliminate communism is to force it to surrender) To the U.S the vietnam-cambodian war was not their problem.
The truth is China won this war economically and politically. They may lost lots of young and inexperienced soldiers(Vietnam died a lot too), but they also cleaned up old weapons and took lessons for their armies who without involving wars in decades. But the most important purposes for China to put trigger to Vietnam this time was that: 1, They needed this movement to show sincerity to US or Western World then lots of western investment would come to China. 2, They needed this movement to drag USSR into this morass deeply and made USSR weaker since USSR was Vietnam's prop and USSR still involved Afghanistan badly at that time. 3, They needed this movement to destroy Vietnam's supremacy dream in Indochina Peninsula or SE Asia, and attracted Vietnam's most national resources to northern border to defend China's sporadic attrition warfares in 10 years. China is huge country and Vietnam is not, China only used resources from one province to offer this attrition warfares, but Vietnam needed most of their whole country's resources. And guess what? China achieved their purposes nearly perfectly.
Cory Plum China’s one objective to Vietnam was to “to teach them a lesson”. Did they do that? The simple answer is no. And China was trying to retake Vietnam again like in the years of the dynastic period. Also, like I said before, lost badly trying to take Lao Cái án Cao Bang that they had to withdraw from those conquered regions. Sure the Chinese succeeded politically, but were never able to deter Vietnam from Cambodia and Laos. Even according to Americans, The Vietnamese Army and militia outperformed and crushed the PLA due to home soil advantage and the fact that China was not experienced in fighting in the Vietnamese mountains.
Also due to the fact that the PLA has not fought since the Chinese Civil War, they were more inexperienced in tactics compared to the battle harden Vietnamese.
(Not so) fun fact, during this war the US supported the Khmer Rouge, which had killed 2 million out of Cambodia's 7.8 million population in just 4 years
The Us always supported dictatorships if it brought benefits, Iran pretty much ended up hating America because the Us supported the Shah who was an a-hole to his people before he got overthrown (and the Us gave him asylum for cancer treatment or something and then sent him to Egypt instead of handing him over to Iran to be tried) and it still calls itself the protector of democracy or something like that. No wonder other countries like Russia with its agressive policy and China with its human rights abuses defy the Us
inqntrol It was called Realpolitik. Better a dictator that wasn’t fascist that a communist revolution. Welcome to Cold War 101. It was our MO at the time.
@@dylanhultman3922 Unfortunately this MO is showing it's results in the present. Can't you guys at least do a drone strike on Putin and blame someone else? You'd do Europe, specially Ukraine and Georgia a favour. (that was a joke)
The US indirectly created the Khmer Rouge through bombings of the Ho Chi Minh Trail on the Cambodian side. At no point did the US directly support the Khmer Rouge. The only ally of the Khmer Rouge was essentially China as shown in the video.
The Vietnamese won my respect for this. Not just for holding out against China, but for having the balls to stand up to them in the first place when they went to topple the Khmer Rouge.
USA : I fought Viet Nam 1 time (1955-1975) France : I fought VIet Nam 2 times (1858-1945 & 1945-1954) Mongol : I fought Viet Nam 3 times (1258, 1285, 1287-1288) China : I fought Viet Nam n times (...)
I believe in 1946, Hi-Chi Mihn went before the League of Nations and asked for self-determination in "French Indo-China". At the time the French were balking at joining NATO and were demanding the return of their empire, including Southeast Asia. to placate the French, the U.S. transported French soldiers into Vietnam. The French eventually joined NATO and after the Dien Bien Phu battle left SE Asia altogether. In the 50s those in power in the U.S., including President Eisenhower, believed in the "domino theory", the idea that once a communist regime took over a country, it's neighbors would fall as well. Some even believed that Australia might "go" communist if the U.S. didn't get involved in Vietnam. So the U.S. replaced the French, though never with the commitment they did in WW2.
The domino theory actually began to develop in the late 40s IIRC, after the Chinese Civil War. It was part of the logic behind the Korean War, and in Truman's "Containment" policy. There was a real chance the Communists would have gotten control of Japan in the 1950s, and no one wanted to go through that again. Thus, to protect American interests, prove the usefulness of the UN and defend a critical "free world" ally, the US-led coalition arrived on the peninsula. Korea was the real game-changer, we went from having two superpowers seeking to keep the other out of their influence sphere to literally having indirect warfare to shrink or expand their respective ones. The American people were actually deeply divided at first about viewing the Soviets as a villainous enemy, many did not want the Cold War (at least in the late 40s). But once the Chinese Civil War and especially the aggression in Korea happened, the idea of peaceful coexistence was for the time being shattered, and at that point absolute resentment of the Communist bloc took over.
Art Nacush I said “barely” doesn’t mean they didn’t done anything in the conflict, which they did in a self-defensive manner to have better control over their border
@@yobitchcantfindme5288 As a Thai, I confirme that Thai army actually had a plan to counterattack Vietnam. Unfortunetely, Thai army had not much ammunition left in its arsenal and diplomacy did its job very well, the counterattack never happened.
@@nattanonkertprakob counterattack? Thailand and vietnam were not even at war. Vietnam was just seeking and destroying the khmer rogue that thailand shielded. There was no decleration of war. You know thai president before the coup actually supported vietnam in searching for the khmer rogue? And promised no US intervention and no us support on thailand? The new coup leader was very anti vietnam so i guess the counterattack idea was from him
One of the Chinese general said they could reach and occupy Hanoi in 2 weeks but they failed at the beginning by some few border guard troops of Northern Vietnam. Meanwhile the almost of the Vietnamese regular army was fighting in Cambodia.
You can see the situation in Red Dragon, the Chinese main forces were about to enter an all-out conflicts with the Soviets in the North, and the invasion force in South were mostly Red Guards with little to no combat experience. i.e. Expendables from Mao's Era. If it wasn't that Soviets was in the progress to intervene Afghanistan, the Sino-Soviets war would have happened.
@@mississippiball1003 Say that in the middle of Moscow in Russian Or Vietnammese in Hanoi and Saigon If the Vietnammese were polite ,they would call the police or the young would argue on you and completely roast you Or the Russian as the pride time of Soviet Union would beat you up
Very good, but I think it would have been a lot better if you mentioned the consequences of the treaty and the effect it would have in Cambodia ans Laos for the years to come.
Viet Nam: declare independence for both Laos and Cambodia and put communist party there Cambodia: follow chinese communist party instead and carried raid in Viet Nam Viet Nam: *suprise pikachu face*
Hello my fellow Asean friends. I know SEATO was founded to counter the rising Vietnamese. I know... Our tanks almost drove as far as Bangkok in the 80s. We feal the fear of Thai people here hehe. Btw, I love Cambodian and Laotian people, we're brothers. It's regretful that Canbodian people came under the brutal Khmer Rough. It had almost destroyed the Cambodian culture and economy. Cambodia need time to take back what they had achieved in the past.
For those wondering Vietnam did not defeat all these nations by themselves,Laos was supportive of Vietnam as many had supported their efforts ,and Laos was ruled by the Pathet Lao government with the same ideology as Vietnam.As for Cambodia the government was ruled by Pol Pot and so many,many Cambodians took up arms againts the psychotic Khmer regime and many saw Vietnam as liberators,hence why it was so easy to win the war.To this day Cambodia is ruled by one of the leaders who took up arms againts the Khmer and set up the new pro Vietnam government(Hun Sen).The reason for their war with Thailand and China was due to a complicated web of alliances between those nations and the Khmer regime and geopolitics(both nations feared Vietnam).Thailand and China was were Vietnam really showed its strength,and came out victorious.
China in the 18th : I want to defeat Vietnam but I can’t because of the tropical forest France in the 19th : I want to defeat Vietnam but I can’t because of the tropical forest USA in the 20th : I want to defeat Vietnam but I can’t because of the tropical forest Vietnam in the 21th : let’s destroy my tropical forest
@@brighthhh7457 Vietnam's freedom era start in 938 until 1884 when the countries conquered by French, so during 946 years between 938 and 1884, Vietnam is an Independent kingdom with peaceful and prosperous in the early years of the kingdom, Vietnam during 946 years is an independent country, not a puppet or a province of China anymore, Remember that, that's real history! (My english is bad)
Actually France won and Vietnam became a French colony from late 19th century till 1940s, then the Japanese came and the French got kicked out of Vietnam, after that they tried one more and lost against the newly independence Vietnam
Ah yes, that time Thailand and Vietnam fought over Cambodia like 200 years ago. These two (or three) countries' relationship is like divorced parents fighting over their child.
@@aerohydreigon1101 uhuh once, and how about now??? The khmers have lost the steel in their blood for like 5-6 centuries ago, now their just a bunch of losers who is submissive to vietnam and thailand. No respect, but khmers then and now aren't the same people
chủ yếu là do dân cự mạng vn dân trí thấp quá ( đến mức thuộc top 10 quốc gia có dân cư mạng ý thức kém ) nên hình ảnh trong con mắt người ngoại quốc bị xấu đi khá nhiều, nói chung là chán :))
@@GTAandApplechannel the Third Indochina war is 10 years war bro (1979-1989), after Vietnam invaded Cambodia, the Khmer rogue are still a lot in jungle and Chinese still advanced minor battles on the border of Vietnam.
Vietnam was right to invade Laos and Cambodia, it was better to live under Vietnamese than Khmer Rouge. If you want to disagree, just do more research on Pol Pot. Also, don't forget to mention that it was Kampucheans who attacked Vietnam on 30th of April in 1977 due to their fear of Vietnamese expansionism. You want to attack Vietnam, be ready to get bruised.
Don't be, it's all in the past, now we're one of the friendliest place to come and visit. Our country is beautiful, we don't have just wars. Vietnam is actually one of the fastest developing countries in the world and we have so much more to offer than just wars.
@@CaptainAhab117 I understand their resentment but it's all the things of the past. Now the economy is going well, I think you can find stuffs "Made in Vietnam" around you, from phones to textiles to seafoods. We all trying to provide a better life for our children.
China likes to claim they won this war. The truth is, they never incurred more than a couple of miles into Vietnam and Laos. They were completely owned in just a month. Some historians like to say China succeeded in preventing the Soviets from helping Vietnam. In reality, Vietnam didn't need a Soviet presence. Just with material support, they could take care of themselves. The funniest part is, they didn't even need Cambodia to be Communist. They beat down the genocidal Khmer Rouge, then eventually permit Cambodia to revert to a parliamentary monarchy.
@@DoctorDeath147 If you were reffering to South Vietnam then this is not factually correct. In reality, similar to Afganistan, South Vietnam holds and is widely popular in the cities while North Vietnam won the heart and mind of the rural population. As we all know, rural population tend to have an upper hand in war due to multitudes of reasons I don't have time to dwell upon. But at least thats what I got.
@@DoctorDeath147 Nope, yeah I was dumb lol. Mistoke this video with the comment I had previously on the Vietnam War. But to your point, I totally agree. The US was still bitter about their lost of South Vietnam so they did the next best thing to "payback" similar to how the French helped the American against their British overlords. All in all, these things are common in geopolitic.
*Shows this* I prefer the real Indochina war. *Shows Vietnam War photo* I said the real Indochina war *Shows French troops surrounding to Viet-cong* Perfection!
Viet - Cong is the Southern Resistance force, and their Nick Name is given by the US and South Vietnam Gorvement. French troops is surrounding by Viet - Minh.
@@jemappllesphan6143 so u wanted to live like dogs to these westerners? There's no way you guys could've been neutral, especially Cambodia and Vietnam bc we're right there by the ocean. The west needed an entrance to Asia and we were their entrance. It was all just a plan for them.
Nếu muốn trách thì đừng trách bọn tao, hay trách Lol Nol, còn việc chúng tao đóng quân trên đất chúng mày là do chính Sihanouk cho phép, lũ miên chúng mày rất hai mặt, vô ơn và ngu dốt. Đã ngu thì đừng có tỏ ra hiểu biết, đừng có xét lại lịch sử vô tội vạ như vậy, thằng miên chó chết.
Vietnam's historical greatest extent was in 1840 under the Nguyen Dynasty, since later the Vietnamese occupation of Laos and Cambodia were military occupations and not political conquest.
