Breaking the competitive balance of the NBA in a desperate attempt to stop Kobe Bryant wasn't enough for LeBron. He needed his puppet, stooge David Stern to ALSO help rob the unstoppable Kobe Bryant from adding to his ring count.
@@jgc792infinitee6 Bleacher report top 50 greatest NBA players all time 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 6. Shaquille O'Neal 7. Tim Duncan 14. Kobe Bryant Bleacher report has Kobe #14 PPG: LeBron RPG: LeBron APG: LeBron SPG: LeBron BPG: LeBron FG%: LeBron 3pt%: LeBron FT%: Kobe TS%: LeBron PER: LeBron WS/48: LeBron VORP: LeBron MVP's: LeBron FMVP's: LeBron Rings: Kobe (Best player on 2) ▫️ LeBron better player then Kobe ▫️ Field goal% LeBron 50.5%✔️ Kobe 44.7% ▫️ Points scored career LeBron 38,652✔️ (1st all time) Kobe 33,643 ▫️ LeBron 1st all time points Kobe 1st all time missed shots ▫️ Total 3pointers made LeBron 2,261✔️ (9th all time) Kobe 1,827 ▫️ Total Steals career LeBron 2,186✔️ (9th all time) Kobe 1,944 ▫️ Total Blocks career LeBron 1,073✔️ Kobe 640 ▫️ Defensive win shares LeBron 78.00✔️ Kobe 50.66 ▫️ Assists Leader LeBron 1✔️ Kobe 0 ▫️ Career highs Kobe Bryant 28-46 fg and 7-13 3pt for 81 points vs Raptors 27-55 record ▫️ Career highs LeBron James 22-33 fg and 8-10 3pt for 61 points vs Bobcats 43-39 record ▫️ Playoffs game winning buzzer beaters LeBron 5✔️ Kobe 1 ▫️ 2010 NBA finals Game 7 Lakers 83 Celtics 79 Kobe Bryant 6-24 fg and 0-6 3pt for 23 points ▫️ 2013 NBA finals Game 7 Heat 95 Spurs 88 LeBron James 12-23 fg and 5-10 3pt for 37 points ▫️ Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant a sidekick like Pippen 6 rings ▫️ 2011 NBA playoffs Mavericks 4 Lakers 0 Kobe got swept with home court advantage and favored to win series ▫️ LeBron 16-6 wins owns Kobe in 22 career meetings ▫️ Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg only 32.9% 3pt most missed shots in NBA history isnt even top 9 player all time
And if he’s not better than Kobe in his own era, as Skap explains the short cut taking manufacturing of a resume to make him appear better to stat nerds … and if he’s not better than Mamba … then he damn sure ain’t better than the goat, Mike. Because Kobe at his best / peak is like 85-90% of what MJ was at his prime / peak.
@@skap_attackyea he wasn’t. After 06 Lebron was way better 😭😭. Also taking Dwade as proof positive that they formed up to beat "Kobe" is a disgusting narrative. B4 going to Miami Bron already had a winning record against him.
Lebron can't ever been seen as better than kobe at this point. This is more proof that lebron needed to form a super team to stop kobe who didn't have a super team. This man needs to be permanently removed from top 5 discussions forever. Great video Skap
mj/kobe/shaq/hakeem/kareem/duncan/magic/larry bird are all superiors to leflop/lefraud james he is barelly a top 15 players in my opinion lmao even steph curry is better than him with his 2022 run
THANK YOU! And while I cannot remove him from EVERYONE's top 5 lists, I will continue to do my best to continue to explain why he shouldn't be anywhere near these other all time greats like Kobe.
Skap you are single handedly removing James from non brainwashed fans . Before your videos I had him 4 , never bought the fake goat argument ; I knew he wasn’t better than Jordan , Kobe or Bird , but after watching wade admit he called up James because they were jealous of Kobe and watching he league stop Paul from helping Kobe get rings to prop up the fake king , he’s out of my top 5 ; Magic , Curry are better than James .
Kobe and lebron played both played 20 seasons,Lebron has more points,been in more playoffs,more all stars,more fmvps,been on more all nba teams,lebron is top 10 in multiple all time categories,and has averaged more his entire career,Kobe had shaq and lebron had d-Wade and c-bosh,lebron faced arguably the greatest teams of all time and came back from a 3-1 lead.
@@StoneCold2k57 NO ONE WHOS SMART BELIEVE WHAT NBA 2K AND BLEACHERS REPORT RATINGS ARE EVERY INTELIGENT MEN KNOWS WILT CHAMBERALAIN HABE BEST STATS RECORDS AND ATRIBUTES ATHLETISM.
I can say I was not a Kobe fan as I was a pistons fan at the time. I will tell you that I respected his game like I did MJ as my die hard team is the Knicks. much respect to Kobe though.He is easily top 5 all time. On my list he is 3rd.
Don't forget, Mark Cuban and Dan Gilbert cried to the front office about that trade and they reneged on it. It wasn't all on David Stern. But when asked WHY, David said it was his idea. Not true at all. The league did NOT want Kobe outshining ANY of the league stars at that time by winning 3 rings on his own. They really hated Kobe and did him dirty...and Lebron STILL chasing that man's ghost.
@@StevenTorres.NYC-CA Uhm, Mr. Steve Torres, if you're asking me that question? I'm shocked you can't use Google. And since you can't, here's a quote from an article online from Sportsskeeda: "According to multiple reports, the NBA, led by commissioner David Stern, vetoed a Chris Paul to LA Lakers trade in 2011 because of pressure from various NBA team owners. Cleveland Cavaliers owner Dan Gilbert and Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban vehemently expressed their displeasure over the proposed trade. That played a pivotal role in the trade getting rejected. Gilbert went as far as sending a letter to commissioner Stern, who then wilted under the goading of the owners and vetoed the trade. At that point, the New Orleans Hornets were owned by the league itself, with 29 other team owners acting as shareholders." There ya go! Enjoy your evening.
@@skap_attack You see the LeBron fans are coming in droves Now the narrative is "LeBron scored more " 😂😂😂 They can't accept it the truth just like their Phony Goat
@@pambrown5625 yea dats so noble of him lol they all colluded 2 get together cuz they knew they couldn't stop da Mamba man 2 man. Pretty sad if u ask me n lying n saying it was 2 stop da celtics makes it even worse I saw thru dis yrs ago glad fans are able 2 see what's what they lucky Kobe got hurt again
Dwayne Wade telling the truth about what? About HIM calling Bron after Kobe won again? If Wade made the call how tf is that a knock on Bron? I'm a diehard Kobe fan but this statement I've seen on here 2x now is confusing af
Lebron and Wade weren't really friends more than they were teammates who got along well. As soon as the desperation was real when LeChode recruited Wade to a terribly injury riddled second rate Cavs team. Nothing wrong with being competitive but when you literally choose a preset 3 man squad whom can be rushed to blame when they lose... As long as they're not bashing LeChode. Even if Kobe was undead.. he would STILL be hailed as better than LeChizzode. Crazy Kobe CARRIED scrubs minus uncracked Odom to 2 rings!!! Pau Gasol Kobe and Odom vs LeTinyPeen Wade and Bizzosh aka Predator with braids.. of COURSE the Heat look better.. But Kobes MUSE was sooooo huge he literally TEABAGGED every one in his way!! Yut!
Winning two chips in a row with little help, being the clear MVP for the team and the league, and they had to make a super team and stop any beneficial trades just to stop him. The media hated him, the league hated him, and he got so much hate from everywhere else. Kobe deserved so much better. Thank you for defending his legacy.
@@ultimateyagerman that was literally the most physical Finals game of all time; the refs didn't call fouls nearly as much as they should've because 1) They didn't want to interrupt the flow of the game. 2) It's the Finals. 3) It was a Lakers vs Celtics series--a long time rivalry. 4) It was a game 7. More so, nobody shot well during that during that game, except KG and Wallace (from mostly under the basket cleanups) and Fisher (from WIDE open looks and backdoor lays). Also, comparatively, that Celtics squad was better than the Lakers. If anyone had a blatant brickjob during that series (and choked), it was Ray Allen whom missed (if I remember correctly) 3-4 WIDE open threes in a row and 3 WIDE open curl jumpers.
@@StoneCold2k57 Kobe was arguably the best player on the Diesel Lakers one of those years. Also, excluding the Achilles tear years (2.5 years) and the Del Harris days (where the coach was intentionally trying to hold him back), Kobe stats are better than Lebron's and this is whether you compare them to his Cleveland stint, Miami stint, and Lakers stint. ..but keep believing the propaganda...
Kobe retired with the entire world respecting him, because of his willingness to overcome adversity. LeBron will retire with fans having mixed feelings, because of The Decision that ruined the balance in the sport and the media pushing a fake GOAT narrative which changes how NBA fans evaluate true greatness.
This isn’t really true, Kobe has a wide wide swath of haters and denigrators and I say that as a Kobe enjoyer. His style of play and brashness was extremely polarizing in spite of his legendary status. LeBron of course will have his haters too, but plenty of respect as well. Now, I hate that he called himself the goat as much as anyone else but this take doesn’t really tell the whole story I think.
When Bron retires, there will be a large portion of fans saying good riddance. Not the same for Kobe who had everyone and their mother watching his last game. So iconic that people forget it was the same day the warriors went 73-9
Agree, and in my humble opinion, would have resulted in Kobe's SIXTH ring while holding LeBron to ZERO and ending this silly little debate about which player was better.
It would not have been a great series. Miami would've been swept. I honestly didn't realize the CP3 veto happened after Lebron went to Miami. I assumed it happened before that. It's the height of hypocrisy for them to allow Lebron to build a superteam while denying 3 teams a trade they all agreed to. Lebum really did have the entire establishment behind his back since his "coronation." It's really creepy. If that trade went through, Kobe would have 7 rings and Lebron would have 0 because he probably would've given up after getting destroyed in Miami by Kobe.
@@billybadass3056Fr, If it was Phil Jackson it would be a different story but Mike D’Antoni can’t coach half court teams that don’t have heavy transition and 3 ball play
I never believed in NBA conspiracies until the league stuck its nose in that Chris Paul trade. It was so blatant they didn’t want Kobe to win another chip.
The hate breeds tunnel vision.. They rigged that kings and Lakers series and try to blame it on Tim... They rigged games for every fans superstar stop being biased cuz u love Kobe
@@DeathWing572 it's true they rigged it but not because of Kobe but because Shaq is the current best player in that 1st 3peat Shaq is the superstar on that time while Kobe is establishing himself as one of the best in the league when the drama ensue inside the Lakers organization that's when the league/stern hating on Kobe and trying to bury him out.
@@DeathWing572 Tough to say who rigged the Laker series against the kings, could have been the mob, but it was FOR SURE rigged. The CP3 veto trade was something I had never been done before and have never seen since. There was zero argument for them to veto the trade outside of we don't want the Lakers to win it this year.
My issue isn't with LBJ switching teams to win a chip. Its the super team stacking, choking and proclaiming how great you are despite evidence to the contrary.
Kobe Bryant got Dwight Howard and Pau Gasol in trades two hall of fame players so cry some more and yo hero got carried by Shaq O'Neal 3 finals mvps best player on Lakers 3peat so I dont feel sorry that he didn't get Chris Paul Proof you dont know basketball NBA owned the Hornets and Chris Paul was they player they dont have to trade him to Lakers to help Kobe Bryant LeBron James a free agent and could sign with any of 30 teams he wanted and also Kevin Durant a free agent and can sign with any 30 teams he wanted and Chris Paul was not a free agent and under contract with Hornets Chris Paul and old Kobe Bryant and no bench wasnt winning a championship anyway lol David Stern wanted to make the trade Chris Paul to Lakers but the NBA owners stepped in and told him not to and he had to veto trade The NBA owners are David Stern the boss Dan Gilbert Cavaliers owner was most against Lakers getting Chris Paul
Its so sad that we will never see real competitive NBA players like MJ and Kobe ever again. Nowadays everybody wants to join good players like themselves rather than defeating them.
Not only was KD less than 1/10 of a point ahead of Kobe, Kobe had one last game while KD already played all his regular season games, and he only needed to score about 40 points to get the scoring title, and y’all know Kobe and that he could easily do it if he wanted to, but he skipped the game almost completely to reserve his power for the upcoming playoffs. He valued bringing up his chances to win by a very very tiny margin more than a scoring title. That was the way of a champion, winning> everything else.
I've often thought about this rhetoric of Kobe wanting to win at all costs, but it certainly didn't seem that way when he received that max contract in his twilight years, which effectively killed the Lakers' chances of contending anytime soon. He could've rejected it like Duncan did, but Kobe wanted the money more than winning.
@@williamelam6754 yeah bron is stat stacking, but in that case I wouldn’t even be mad, Kobe was just built different, but almost anyone would choose a scoring title over a 0,01% chance that his performance will actually make a difference in the playoffs at all
@@mariosuarez3411Kobe was owed that money for carrying the Lakers from 2001 until he retired. Shaq was big and lazy and Kobe did all the heavy lifting during the season and the west playoffs. Shaq only dominated the weak finals centers.
@@Mike1122. Maybe so, at least symbolically, but that doesn't take away from the fact that Kobe willingly took more money over increasing his chances of contending. I mean, it's not like Kobe needed the money at that point in his career.
I was patiently waiting for you to address this. Very interesting. LBJ so entitled to be called the best player without winning championships, and collapsing as favorites in the playoffs, that he felt the need to join another top three player and MVP and champion just to start winning rings as easily as possible to be considered better than Kobe.
You KNEW I was going to get to this lol. But I wanted to tie in the NBAs trade veto around that same exact time. Obviously Lebron’s ring count is INFLATED. And still only has 4 😂
@@skap_attack It pains me to say as a Heat guy because I did enjoy my team getting rings, but God knows LeBron has one if not two of Kobe's rings in his closet ON TOP of having to leave Cleveland and form a super team in order to even be taught how to be a champion. In light of all this, especially the reminder about the Kobe-Paul veto, I honestly do not consider Mr. James to be top 5 all time.
@@g-coalitionbrother1729 Bleacher report top 50 greatest NBA players all time 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 6. Shaquille O'Neal 7. Tim Duncan 14. Kobe Bryant Bleacher report has Kobe #14 PPG: LeBron RPG: LeBron APG: LeBron SPG: LeBron BPG: LeBron FG%: LeBron 3pt%: LeBron FT%: Kobe TS%: LeBron PER: LeBron WS/48: LeBron VORP: LeBron MVP's: LeBron FMVP's: LeBron Rings: Kobe (Best player on 2) ▫️ LeBron better player then Kobe ▫️ Field goal% LeBron 50.5%✔️ Kobe 44.7% ▫️ Points scored career LeBron 38,652✔️ (1st all time) Kobe 33,643 ▫️ LeBron 1st all time points Kobe 1st all time missed shots ▫️ Total 3pointers made LeBron 2,261✔️ (9th all time) Kobe 1,827 ▫️ Total Steals career LeBron 2,186✔️ (9th all time) Kobe 1,944 ▫️ Total Blocks career LeBron 1,073✔️ Kobe 640 ▫️ Defensive win shares LeBron 78.00✔️ Kobe 50.66 ▫️ Assists Leader LeBron 1✔️ Kobe 0 ▫️ Career highs Kobe Bryant 28-46 fg and 7-13 3pt for 81 points vs Raptors 27-55 record ▫️ Career highs LeBron James 22-33 fg and 8-10 3pt for 61 points vs Bobcats 43-39 record ▫️ Playoffs game winning buzzer beaters LeBron 5✔️ Kobe 1 ▫️ 2010 NBA finals Game 7 Lakers 83 Celtics 79 Kobe Bryant 6-24 fg and 0-6 3pt for 23 points ▫️ 2013 NBA finals Game 7 Heat 95 Spurs 88 LeBron James 12-23 fg and 5-10 3pt for 37 points ▫️ Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant a sidekick like Pippen 6 rings ▫️ 2011 NBA playoffs Mavericks 4 Lakers 0 Kobe got swept with home court advantage and favored to win series ▫️ LeBron 16-6 wins owns Kobe in 22 career meetings ▫️ Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg only 32.9% 3pt most missed shots in NBA history isnt even top 9 player all time
lebron won 2 more rings without wade and after leaving miami he went to 5 nba finals and beat Toronto every year which is same team that beat wade after LeBron left 2 seasons after
I remember a Kobe was making crazy shots against the Celtics in 2010 finals game 4 and ESPN took a camera shot at D-Wade shaking his head and sipping water at the disrespectful shots Kobe was making. That was the moment he was ready to call Bron.
I remember how Scalabrine told an ordinary dude "i'm closer to LeBron than you are to me." Listening to Wade call Lebron after those finals has me thinking i am closer to Wade/LeBron than they are to Kobe.
Thank you for bring up that veto trade. I’m still boiling pissed at David Stern. He said he did it for “basketball reasons”. Basketball reason MY FOOT!
Like ARE YOU KIDDING ME?! Chris Paul and Kobe (WHILE trading away Gasol and Odom) was UNFAIR. Lebron, Wade and Bosh, totally ok tho. Absolute GARBAGE. I think it’s pretty obvious Kobe woulda won 6 in 2012 while Lebron would have been held to zero.
I just realized you were sarcastic in the first sentence 😂. It was clear they wanted Lebron to win championships. I’m glad the truth is coming out. Why D Wade expose this is beyond me. What was that with Dan Gilbert writing that scathing email?
@@rossejera1661 Well technically the NBA did own the team after the owner was not able to maintain the team. Either way, David Sterns was acting like a commissioner instead of a team’s owner.
I just spoke on this recently on the brother DreamersPro channel recently, Lebron called David Stern and told him he didn't wanna see Kobe in the NBA finals after all the promotion that ESPN aka ESCNN done with SAS running his mouth about the Heat vs Lakers then Nike made the Muppet baby dolls of LeBron and Kobe even had the rap legend KRS to rap on one of Nike's commercial. LeBron saw all of this and was afraid and IMMEDIATELY called David Stern and he assured LeBron that he would NEVER face Kobe in the finals. And Kobe was very upset and rightfully so but he said if I can't get him in the finals on the biggest stage I'll embarrass him in this 2011 all star game and show everyone that I'm better than LeBron and he did just that LeBron was so scared that when the game was on the line and Kobe was guarding him he threw the ball away turning it over intentionally and Melo, Wade, and Kobe all scolded LeBron for doing that and this is the man who people say is the 🐐???! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 FOH.
In all honesty DWade is not a loser as he already was a champ, a scoring champ and a finals MVP before LeBron decided to join his Heat team. But other than that I definitely agree with the video. Kobe is a far greater player and a winner than any of those Heat players.
@@patjenkins1308 Wrong since Kobe Bryant played with more all star and hall of fame teammates then Michael Jordan in career lol Goat 🐐 Jordan > Copycat Kobe Finals Mvps Jordan 6✔️ (most all time) Kobe 2 Rings Jordan 6✔️ Kobe 5 League Mvps Jordan 5✔️ Kobe 1 Total Mvps (league and finals) Jordan 11✔️ (most all time) Kobe 3 Scoring titles Jordan 10✔️ (most all time) Kobe 2 Steals leader Jordan 3✔️ (1988, 1990, 1993) Kobe 0 All defensive first team selections Jordan 9 in 15 years 60% ✔️ Kobe 9 in 20 years 45% Defensive player of year Jordan 1✔️ (1988) Kobe 0 Career Steals Jordan 2,514✔️ Kobe 1,944 Career blocks Jordan 893✔️ Kobe 640 Seasons played Kobe 20 Jordan 15 Points per game (regular season) Jordan 30.12 ✔️ (1st all time) Kobe 24.99 Player efficiency rating Jordan 1st all time ✔️ Kobe 24th all time Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg career Seasons average +30 ppg Jordan 8✔️ Kobe 3 Seasons average +30 ppg on 50% fg Jordan 5✔️ Kobe 0 3point% (NBA finals) Jordan 36.8%✔️ Kobe 31.4% Playoff game winning buzzer beaters Jordan 3✔️ Kobe 1 Game trying or go ahead shots in 4th quarter last 24 seconds to take lead or tie Jordan 9-18 fg for 50%✔️ Kobe 7-28 fg for 25% Jordan way better player then Kobe Bleacher report NBA top 50 best players all time 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 6. Shaquille O'Neal 7. Tim Duncan 14. Kobe Bryant 1991 NBA finals Bulls 4 Lakers 1 First ring Jordan 31.2 pts and 55.8% fg and 50% 3pt and 6.6 rebs and 11.4 ast and finals mvp 2000 NBA finals Lakers 4 Pacers 2 First ring Kobe 15.6 ppg, 36.7% fg, 20% 3pt Carried by Shaq 38.0 pts, 61.1% fg, 16 rebs Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps and best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant 2nd option Jordan 6 times best player on his teams titles more then Kobe 2 times 2004 NBA finals Pistons 4 Lakers 1 Kobe 22 pts and 38% fg and 17% 3pt and locked down by Tyshaun Prince 2004 NBA finals Shaq O'Neal 26 pts and 63% fg and 10 rebs vs Detroit Pistons
Just goes to show how much of a threat The Black Mamba became when Kobe#24 showed the NBA world he could lead the Lakers without Shaq Diesel to win the ring.
Great Video!! The decision for the veto of the Chris Paul trade made no sense.The Lakers were trading away an all-star in Pau Gasol and 6th man of the year Lamar Odom from their roster and getting back 1 all-star in return.There was no unfair advantage to any of the teams involved especially considering that Chris Paul eventually was traded to the Clippers.David Stern was obviously swayed by the other owners who didn't want to see Kobe win more championships.
What's funny about all this is LeBron fans claim Kobe had such a great team and they were all great players, yet now I'm reading LeBron fans claim it was a terrible trade for the clippers cause the Lakers players weren't good 😂 wtf
Skap has the best voice for these videos. His passion to expose every detail of LBJ and the nba push is beyond epic. I freaking laugh so much and I’ve said it before, this dude has every single clip and frame of every extra step, every brick, air ball, bad pass, blocked shot, missed layup, missed dunk, unforced turnover and more importantly every angle of every flop ever by LBJ. It makes me laugh just thinking about it. And then it’s also a joy to be reminded of when I watched Kobe on almost all the clips shown. I’m often saying to myself “I remember that”. Or “that was such and awesome moment”. The music and when he says “the self proclaimed king” and shows that clip of LBJ dancing in the locker room or with the cringe face and the fist pump. I freaking die laughing. It’s even got my wife laughing now. Bravo as usual. 😂🤣
Ain't no dent in LeBron James legacy at all proof you don't know basketball 🤣 Shaq O'Neal 3 finals mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant a sidekick like Pippen 6 rings Finals Mvps (individual player) Jordan 6 LeBron 4 Shaq 3 Kobe 2 Best player on teams titles Jordan 6 LeBron 4 Kobe 2 🐐Jordan > LeBron > Shaq > Kobe LeBron James PPG, FG%, 3pt%, TS%, REB, AST, STL, BLK higher then Kobe Bryant. So it's pretty clear LeBron the better player 😎 LeBron 38,652 pts on 50.5% fg more points than Kobe 33,643 pts on 44.7% fg LeBron 1st all time points Kobe 1st all time missed shots Bleacher report top 50 greatest NBA players all time 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 6. Shaquille O'Neal 7. Tim Duncan 14. Kobe Bryant Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg only 32.9% 3pt not top 10 player all time that's why Bleacher report has him #14
It was a joke. Just like the Bleacher report is a joke. How is Shaq higher than Russell and Wilt? If it’s about rings, Russell has more rings, if it’s about stats, Wilt holds more stats records. Kobe is definitely higher than David Robinson and Curry.
@@johnraphael2413get em, I've already dissected why those lists are absolutely trash, the same exact way as you. When it comes to LeBron stats are the determining factor, when it comes to Kobe his stats didn't matter, but they also put Tim over Kobe cause team success, yet not both guys over LeBron due to team success. That's just 1 player, now if anyone can explain to Me why Bill Russell place on the list was moved after Kobes death, not Kobes retirement, if the list is legit. The Answer is the list is another fraudulent ploy by the media to promote lebron.
@@TerryLanda-fj9ivtrash opinion The World wide over says different Can you please since love stats so much. Is b ball only offense? Can you add the defensive teams and selections also. And it ain't close. Can't take serious only using offense stats primarily
The league did everything it could to substitute jordan with lebron when the GOAT retired, they needed those ratings and weren't about to let just "some other guy" come in and destroy that, they needed to stop kobe however way they could. Turns out even with all that kobe was still the better player and has the greater legacy.
THANK YOU for watching. I appreciate you 🙏❤️. But mostly I appreciate you spreading the good word of TRUTH about the Black Mamba. His legacy needs people like us since the mainstream media does nothing but promote lies.
Still hurts thinking back to David Stern not letting Chris Paul come to the Lakers. Instead, we mortgaged our future for a brittle corpse of Steve Nash and a year rental on an injury prone Dwight lacking a motor. What if… 😪
I remember this whole situation like it was yesterday. What a screw job. Who knows what would’ve happened if cp and Kobe had teamed up, but the league interference will always be a shadow on that time in the league. Kobe had a year or two of incredible play left and the team he was given was not much better than the teams between shaq and pau. He didn’t need superstars but he needed a decent big and some decent role players
“Basketball reasons” still haunts me to this day. Stern folded so easily bc those small market owners like Dan Gilbert were whining about the spoils of the Lakers.
GREAT CONTENT as always!! Kobe was always better than Lebron and I'm glad videos like this makes it even more apparent. Sir I do have a question. Are you going to do video about Gilbert Arenas trying to clown Hakeem Olajuwon because Giannis wants to work with Hakeem? Basically, he is saying Hakeem shouldn't charge Giannis and that Hakeem's moves wouldn't be effective in today's NBA. And again, thank you for your content!
Wow they seriously wanted LeBron over Kobe as much as possible. Kobe would've ripped LeBron in the 2012 finals and made LeBron 0-3 and would've never ever been considered a goat
Bleacher report top 50 greatest NBA players all time 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 6. Shaquille O'Neal 7. Tim Duncan 14. Kobe Bryant Bleacher report has Kobe #14 PPG: LeBron RPG: LeBron APG: LeBron SPG: LeBron BPG: LeBron FG%: LeBron 3pt%: LeBron FT%: Kobe TS%: LeBron PER: LeBron WS/48: LeBron VORP: LeBron MVP's: LeBron FMVP's: LeBron Rings: Kobe (Best player on 2) ▫️ LeBron better player then Kobe ▫️ Field goal% LeBron 50.5%✔️ Kobe 44.7% Points scored career LeBron 38,652✔️ (1st all time) Kobe 33,643 LeBron 1st all time points Kobe 1st all time missed shots Total 3pointers made LeBron 2,261✔️ (9th all time) Kobe 1,827 Total Steals career LeBron 2,186✔️ (9th all time) Kobe 1,944 Total Blocks career LeBron 1,073✔️ Kobe 640 Defensive win shares LeBron 78.00✔️ Kobe 50.66 Assists Leader LeBron 1✔️ Kobe 0 Career highs Kobe Bryant 28-46 fg and 7-13 3pt for 81 points vs Raptors 27-55 record Career highs LeBron James 22-33 fg and 8-10 3pt for 61 points vs Bobcats 43-39 record Playoffs game winning buzzer beaters LeBron 5✔️ Kobe 1 2010 NBA finals Game 7 Lakers 83 Celtics 79 Kobe Bryant 6-24 fg and 0-6 3pt for 23 points 2013 NBA finals Game 7 Heat 95 Spurs 88 LeBron James 12-23 fg and 5-10 3pt for 37 points Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant a sidekick like Pippen 6 rings 2011 NBA playoffs Mavericks 4 Lakers 0 Kobe got swept with home court advantage and favored to win series LeBron 16-6 wins owns Kobe in 22 career meetings Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg only 32.9% 3pt most missed shots in NBA history isnt even top 9 player all time
@@DavidMason-8O8is that the bleacher report top 10 that changed after Kobes death? Dropping Russell out to move Kobe up? Or is it before when they claimed winning mattered more than stats between russel and Kobe, yet winning didn't matter more between Magic, Kobe, Shaq and Tim compared to LeBron, all of which had more rings when this list was published, it wasn't about rings it was about stats. But wait winning over ststs when comparing Russell to Kobe Stats over winning when comparing LeBron to everyone else 😂 Sad thing is I know you can't actually dispute this argument with facts, I'll be called a Kobe stan 😂
LeBron (Husky Bedroom Voice): Kobe was already drenched in sweat. We was like, "Oh yeah." He different. LeBron exits and grabs some tissue on the way out. 2:57
6:50 Skap I wish you emphasized a little bit more on Kevin Love being 4th in scoring whilst being 2nd in rebounds from the entire league says a lot how elite he is as a player. Letrash literally took that same player to elevate his self proclaimed achievements.
Yes and think about this, why the fkck did the Timberwolves even make that trade? Looking back it didn't make sense outside of team success, but even then, imagine if they just kept Kevin love and added the pieces they added and forced the cavs to keep Wiggins 😂 If you really dig into these trades teams make with LeBron teams, the only way these trades make any sense is if the NBA is directly controlling trades behind the scenes. They all are completely 1 sided for lebrons team, and yet teams keep trading promising you guys for terrible vets on bad contracts.
As much as they talk about what LeBron James did in year 16 nobody ever talks about what Kobe did in year 16 and that’s exactly what I’m talking about. They make parameters only for LeBron James, if you gonna make them for LeBron and make them for everybody.
Kobe was still easily a top 5 player the next season in his 17th year as well. Probably would have maintained that level a few more years if he didn’t rupture his Achilles. Probably wouldn’t have ruptured his Achilles if the Chris Paul deal wasn’t vetoed 😡
The NBA colluded to protect LeBron and Michael Jordan’s Legacy… They did have ownership of New Orleans but they had no true reason to not send Chris Paul to the Lakers and they send Chris Paul to the next door Clippers to mock Kobe and the Lakers
@@CreamPieSundays I appreciate you watching and supporting the channel. Also I am humbled and grateful to be used to help destroy the garbage anti Kobe narrative becoming all too common these days.
I’m so exhausted with telling people, Lebron James can’t hold Kobe’s jock strap. Kobe scored 33k or more points while deferring to Shaq for 8 seasons. If Kobe was the go to option from day one he might have scored a staggering 50K points in his career.
Please enlighten me on how kobe deferred to shaq when kobe averaged more shot attemots than shaq in 01,02, 03, and 04? U kobe fans just be making shi up💀
@@Mike1122. and again…he played with shaq for 8 total seasons and averaged more shot attempts in 01, 02, 03, and 04…that’s half of the years he played with shaq…so no he didn’t defer to shaq for 8 years like u said…clearly u lack basic comprehension skills…so let’s try that again buddy🤣
@@jps0583FFFOOORRR TTHHEE TTOTTAALL OOFFF 8 SSEEEAASSONSS SSSHHAAQ TOOOK MOREEE OVVERALLL FFGGGGSSS. I slowed it down for you, so you could understand.
An excellent analysis. Nevet thought about it from the standpoint of trying to destroy one legacy to build the next one. It just didn't work out how they wanted it to. Exposed weaknesses rather than set up a legacy
A lot of people forget that the Chris Paul trade wasn't the only trade that was going to be made. The Chris Paul trade was actually going to free up a bunch of cap space and the Lakers were going to get Dwight Howard too. The vetoed Paul trade ruined all that. I believe that Lakers team could've beat the Heat in the Finals.
Thanks again, Skap. I've been going to Lakers games since the Forum days. This is Kobe's greatness , to me: *The first athlete or celebrity I can remember in my entire life that I admired and learned from **_who was younger than myself._* (my apologies, as it is impossible to scratch the surface in one dumb sentence) P E A C E !!!
Pau Gasol all star and hall of fame player way better player then Byron Scott and Michael Cooper 0x all stars and not hall of fame players Proof you dont know basketball thinking Byron Scott a role player should have his number retired 😂 Then way not Derek Fisher then Robert Horry and just go ahead and run out of numbers
@@DavidMason-8O8 Coop was 8x all defense, won a title every year of Showtime and Defensive player of the year as a 6th man. Played his entire career in LA. By the time Pau came around, the all star game was just a popularity contest. Guys like Penny Hardaway and Yao Ming were voted starters in the all star game while injured or not even playing that season. Not saying Pau didn't deserve it but Coop does too. Boston, San Antonio, Detroit, all retired their loyal players that won championships for them.
Bleacher report top 50 greatest NBA players all time 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 6. Shaquille O'Neal 7. Tim Duncan 14. Kobe Bryant Bleacher report has Kobe #14 PPG: LeBron RPG: LeBron APG: LeBron SPG: LeBron BPG: LeBron FG%: LeBron 3pt%: LeBron FT%: Kobe TS%: LeBron PER: LeBron WS/48: LeBron VORP: LeBron MVP's: LeBron FMVP's: LeBron Rings: Kobe (Best player on 2) ▫️ LeBron better player then Kobe ▫️ Field goal% LeBron 50.5%✔️ Kobe 44.7% Points scored career LeBron 38,652✔️ (1st all time) Kobe 33,643 LeBron 1st all time points Kobe 1st all time missed shots Total 3pointers made LeBron 2,261✔️ (9th all time) Kobe 1,827 Total Steals career LeBron 2,186✔️ (9th all time) Kobe 1,944 Total Blocks career LeBron 1,073✔️ Kobe 640 Defensive win shares LeBron 78.00✔️ Kobe 50.66 Assists Leader LeBron 1✔️ Kobe 0 Career highs Kobe Bryant 28-46 fg and 7-13 3pt for 81 points vs Raptors 27-55 record Career highs LeBron James 22-33 fg and 8-10 3pt for 61 points vs Bobcats 43-39 record Playoffs game winning buzzer beaters LeBron 5✔️ Kobe 1 2010 NBA finals Game 7 Lakers 83 Celtics 79 Kobe Bryant 6-24 fg and 0-6 3pt for 23 points 2013 NBA finals Game 7 Heat 95 Spurs 88 LeBron James 12-23 fg and 5-10 3pt for 37 points Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant a sidekick like Pippen 6 rings 2011 NBA playoffs Mavericks 4 Lakers 0 Kobe got swept with home court advantage and favored to win series LeBron 16-6 wins owns Kobe in 22 career meetings Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg only 32.9% 3pt most missed shots in NBA history isnt even top 9 player all time
Kobe got robbed in 08 too, refs were helping out Celtics mightly. Imagine if Kobe won 2 more mvps he deserved and 1 more title. He would be 6-1 in finals 3 MVPs, 3 finals MVPs brings him a lot closer to Mj. What makes it even scarier if stern doesn’t nix the trade of cp3 that could have extended Kobe’s dominance
I don't see any reason Kobe wouldn't have dominated into year 18 with this trade. He goes from primary ball handler and only offensive threat, to playing off ball and letting cp3 do alot of rhe dirty work. But nope, instead the nba has made a conscious effort for LeBron to get way more help this late, including some of the most 1 sided trades in nba history, and let's not forget when the media spent 3 months telling us kd would be traded to Lakers for absolutely nothing 😂 then it was kyrie next, then when they went elsewhere LeBron fans claimed he didn't have help and was unfair. All this with Anthony Davis on his team 😂
Not a Kobe fan at all, still have the utmost respect for him for being the competitive athlete he is. LeCry jump ship every now and then if he knew he won't win shit.
@@luisescobar1868the only people who aren't kobe fans, who watched, are fans of the teams he beat, and even then, this is where his legacy stands, respected. Compared to lebrons its a joke
You know what I love so much about you? You are like a giant mean ass Pitbull for Kobe and that is perfect in so many ways. Just like Kobe was a mean ass Pitbull attacking anything that would stop him from winning, you are just that way when it comes to anyone not recognizing who and what Kobe was. It feels only right to me to hear your passion in defending him and telling people who pretend to be him who they really are in comparison. Love it dude, I loved Kobe from the first game I saw him and watched every one of his games until the last. I agree with the spirit of all your points. To me Kobe is the best. If someone told me to pick a player from all time to play 1 game with both my and that players life on the line, I pick Kobe every time, without question. Because, that way, I know I will not die that day. I just love the brutal way you attack those who claim to be him, it's perfect man, Kobe would be proud of you if he could see these.
I want ya'll to consider the lottery picks LeBron James has played with. Kyrie Irving#1 Kevin Love#5 Tristan Thompson#4 Dwayne Wade#5 Chris Bosh #4 Mike Miller#5 Shane Battier #6 Michael Beasley #2 Anthony Davis#1 Rui Hachimura #9 Lonzo Ball #2 Tyson Chandler #2 Carmelo Anthony #3 Brandon Ingram #2 Andre Drummond #9 D’Angelo Russel#2 Ray Allen#5 Russell Westbrook#4 Dwight Howard#1 Kentavious Caldwell-Pope #8 Plus Shaq O'Neal albeit he was done. No player in history has had this type of talent on his side.
Bleacher report top 50 greatest NBA players all time 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 6. Shaquille O'Neal 7. Tim Duncan 14. Kobe Bryant Bleacher report has Kobe #14 PPG: LeBron RPG: LeBron APG: LeBron SPG: LeBron BPG: LeBron FG%: LeBron 3pt%: LeBron FT%: Kobe TS%: LeBron PER: LeBron WS/48: LeBron VORP: LeBron MVP's: LeBron FMVP's: LeBron Rings: Kobe (Best player on 2) ▫️ LeBron better player then Kobe ▫️ Field goal% LeBron 50.5%✔️ Kobe 44.7% Points scored career LeBron 38,652✔️ (1st all time) Kobe 33,643 LeBron 1st all time points Kobe 1st all time missed shots Total 3pointers made LeBron 2,261✔️ (9th all time) Kobe 1,827 Total Steals career LeBron 2,186✔️ (9th all time) Kobe 1,944 Total Blocks career LeBron 1,073✔️ Kobe 640 Defensive win shares LeBron 78.00✔️ Kobe 50.66 Assists Leader LeBron 1✔️ Kobe 0 Career highs Kobe Bryant 28-46 fg and 7-13 3pt for 81 points vs Raptors 27-55 record Career highs LeBron James 22-33 fg and 8-10 3pt for 61 points vs Bobcats 43-39 record Playoffs game winning buzzer beaters LeBron 5✔️ Kobe 1 2010 NBA finals Game 7 Lakers 83 Celtics 79 Kobe Bryant 6-24 fg and 0-6 3pt for 23 points 2013 NBA finals Game 7 Heat 95 Spurs 88 LeBron James 12-23 fg and 5-10 3pt for 37 points Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant a sidekick like Pippen 6 rings 2011 NBA playoffs Mavericks 4 Lakers 0 Kobe got swept with home court advantage and favored to win series LeBron 16-6 wins owns Kobe in 22 career meetings Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg only 32.9% 3pt most missed shots in NBA history isnt even top 9 player all time
Thanks skap for hightlighting this. I feel like this is something the younger nba audience arent aware about which had a big negative impact on Kobe and Paul's legacy.
I LOVE Michael Jordan, but the Chris Paul denied trade to the Lakers was done to stop Kobe from tying, possibly passing MJ in championship rings, more so than to deny Lebron from winning any at the time.
Dude this was amazing reporting. I NEVER thought about this in detail, you legit opened a whole new world for me lol I’m definitely going to go diggin 😂
People be forgetting winning & losing are the MOST important in any sport. Kobe won 5/7 chips in a 10 yr span (a three peat & back to back). Lebron then had uber help, yet & still only 1 back to back with 6Ls. He has lost 3 times more than Kobe & still hasnt won more than him
The 3peat is Shaq's team, kid. It doesnt count. You dont get to tally up ambiguous rings with no individual accolade and measure it up to a resume that won 4 Finals MVPs for 4 different rings.
@@ultimateyagerman and you don't get to lose six finals and claim you are the greatest. Kobe all day, any day over LeBron. Charges, travels, flops and load management was never in Kobe's game. Sorry your guy failed a lot. Perhaps you will pick better in the future.
@@ultimateyagerman Carried 🤣 I do recall Kobe winning without him. I also recall Shaq running to Miami, kinda like bron did. No, you didn't say he was the greatest but your comment implies that you think he belongs in the top 5.
David Stern is a disgrace to the league. He had it out for Kobe ever since Colorado and this was his revenge for being embarrassed by Kobe’s very public legal trouble.
Kobe had no help from his aged 26 season to age 29. Then he had no help again from age 32 to the end of his career. Criminal the way the lakers treated him.
@@MikeHawk-yg3gk Damn man are you that lonely? 🤣 Listen LeBron has Anthony Davis, D’Angelo Russell, Austin Reeves, and Christian Woods. All these guys can put up buckets. If LeBron truly “makes his teammates better” he should have no problem assisting them to getting to the promise land. Those guys are all double digit scorers and young. AD is arguably the best two-way player, at worst top 3, when healthy.
@@phenomenal-fitness can they play defense? Can they rebound? Or are they just shot jackers? How many times have they've been all stars other than Anthony Davis?
@@MikeHawk-yg3gk Yes they can play defense (Although LeBron does not). No, they aren’t shot jackers. That would be your king, LeBron, that be jacking up shots. D’Lo has been an All-Star player. Also keep in my LeBron has had multiple All-Stars before and still missed the playoffs or lost the championship. Now tell me why the obsession with All-Stars? You do realize that both MJ and Kobe won their championships with just one All-Star on their team, right? Don’t give me that Jordan played against weaker competition. I was alive during that time and he played against teams with the same amount of All-Stars, if not more, (Magic & Worthy, Clyde Drexler & Terry Porter, Barkley & Majerle, Payton & Kemp, Stockton & Malone) I’m not even counting guys on the team that we’re selected to the All-Star team before like Kevin Duckworth, Detlef Schrempf, & Kevin Johnson. In the 2013-2014 season LeBron, Wade, and Bosh made the All-Star team and that lost to the Spurs when Tony Parker was the only player to be selected an All-Star that year. Now if we count guys that were selected to the All-Star game before, Jordan and Kobe still win that argument. I bring that up because you are whining that LeBron team isn’t stacked because he only has 1 other All-Star besides himself. If that the case, I don’t want to hear about Jordan’s competition or that he had SuperTeam 96-98.
when wade said that i was shocked. not that he did it but that he admitted it. thats something you keep to yourself. why would you openly admit to that to the whole world?
Awsome vid. U b goin hard on Lechoke and I'm here for it. Nvr been a fan of his and everything u say I been sayin 4 years! So thank u for that. Keep it up
THE CP3 TRADE BLOCK WILL ALWAYS PISS ME OFF!!! KOBE would have went to 3 more Finals from 11-14 and got 2 more rings, finishing his career with a 7/10 Finals record...
well....Lebron is security society society Boule(look at his chest tattoo) The same season kobe "dies" the lakers. win the championship on October 11th 2020 A holiday (Father Daughter day) just saying
Leave Pau alone man😂😂😂 I always say that if the league don't screw us in that trade kobe gets 2 more rings. The rumor was that Howard was going to come the next season. It would've been kobe, cp3, and Howard. Bruh😂😂😂 kobe was finna have 7 rings. The league and media has been against kobe from the beginning. And he still came out with 5. That's a player who faced real adversity with all odds stacked against him and still came out on top. Miss kobe for real
Completely agree with all of this. If that trade wasn’t vetoed, Kobe would have had AT LEAST 6 titles. But realistically could make a case for 7. And also I love Gasol. Just have to say it like it was. Gasol was awful in the 2011 and 2012 playoffs.
@@lonesoljazangetsu1157 I think we can all agree Kobe should have had a minimum 3 league MVPs and arguably as many as 5. But the league and their garbage media just hated him.
I've been noticing that all accounts that contradict Lebron's fraud legacy have all been deleted or reported. Glad to have found this channel. Subbed for the great content.
Lebron isn’t a top 10 player. It’s genuinely disrespectful to even compare LeChoke to someone like John Stockton. One is a steroid head athletic freak with excellent vision but below average skill and trash footwork, and is a complete choker and softy. The other was very skilled, tough as nails, greatest passer of all time, and clutch. I’d rather have Stockton.
the hypocrisy and irony of relying on kobe bryant to win them the gold medal in beijing and then teaming up to hold him down from winning a possibly sixth ring... honestly, F these guys
If the Cavaliers had won the 2007 NBA Finals and LeBron had won a championship ring, he would not have joined the Heat and NBA history would have been different.
Or maybe if he hadn't played a super experienced Spurs team. Who in their right mind thought he was going to beat that team with Daniel Gibson Anderson varejao and donyell Marshall.? That series reminded me of Jordan trying to beat the Celtics teams by himself. Regardless of how good Jordan was he wasn't going to beat Bird McHale and Parrish
@@patjenkins1308 dude did you watch the playoffs that year? I did and I know they wouldn't even have been in the finals if not for their defense. Also Booby Gibson won one of those games by himself fyi. I love this excuse because it's the easiest to debunk
Kobe from the 2006-2010 playoffs averaged 29.8 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 5.4 apg, 2.5 spg, 47% fg, 35% 3pt, 84.4% ft 57% ts all while facing a bloodbath of a West league average ts was 53.9% ts in those playoffs 2006 Kobe had arthroscopic knee surgery after the Suns series 2008 Kobe had back spasms and a torn pinky 2009 Kobe had a torn ring finger 2010 Kobe had a broken index finger and knee tendinitis (basically the same injury Wade would struggle with later), had another knee surgery after the 2010 Finals to remove more cartilage and his knee was described as almost bone on bone Took the 2nd seed 2006 Suns to 7 with Odom as the only real NBA level player on the team Beat the Spurs in 2008 despite Gasol and Odom struggling on offense that series, no Bynum Beat the 2009 Nuggets while putting up insane numbers. Beat the 59 win number 1 ranked defense Magic Beat the 2010 Suns which had a historically good offense at the time, 2010 Celtics who beat the 61 win Cavs and 59 win Magic and had a staggering defense in the playoffs.
Kobe scored the most 4th quarter points, playoffs or regular season, over the period of the 2000s, and each separate run of 3 straight finals he led in 4th quarter scoring. Yet I'm seeing a narrative that Kobe was never more clutch than lebron 😂 I don't think people realize that crossover on pippen to Shaq lob was to closeout a game 7, a game 7 in which the Lakers were down 16 in the 4th and Kobe scored or assisted on every single bucket down the stretch, taking the lead and winning the game..compare that to the way lebron plays in the last minutes of his game 7s, and the difference is ridiculous. LeBron always dribbles off his foot or commits an offensive foul, just depends how the refs call it.
