The True Face of God Dionysus | Ancient Greece Revisited 

Finally, a channel on RU-vid that approaches the foundational importance of classical learning appropriately. Thank you! I look forward to following and sharing.

First of all I would like to thank Fred Grün for introducing your channel to me. Congratulations on the excellent content and presentation. It was about time Ancient Greek culture was promoted in such a comprehensive and contemporary way. Now about this video, as a wine expert I can’t help but make a few remarks. I fully understand your point about Dionysos being so much more than just a “mere wine God” or a “vegetative cycle” God and I totally agree. Nevertheless, I think that you understate the importance of wine as the God’s symbol. Wine is not only his symbol, it is his actual metaphor (Dionysos is wine) and it’s also his greatest gift to mankind. Consider a world with no sweeteners (except for honey), no antiseptics, no pain-killers and no anti-depressants. Wine has been the only answer to all of the above needs for a very long time in human history. You say: “What is truly missing from the idea of Dionysos as the God of wine is his dual nature.” I disagree since wine itself has a dual nature too. It is both the product of the Earth and the Sky. It needs to be born twice; first in the vineyard and then in the cellar. It can be fiery (much like the God himself) and soothing at the same time. Last but not least, there is the notion of moderation- so fundamental in every aspect of the Greek culture. Drink moderately and rejoice in the Gifts of Dionysos. Overindulge and get the bad side of it that could lead to madness or even crime. There is so much more…wine as a social equalizer (after a few drinks we’re all friends regardless of our previous reservations). Wine performs the work of Dionysos; takes away rationalism and helps us get in touch with our inner truth, sentiments and desires, our deeper, darker selves. If we avoid letting loose from time to time- nemesis will come. In other words, we have to find the balance (another wine word..) between our Dionysiac and Apollonian selves.. Sorry for the big comment- it’s just my absolutely favorite subject! Keep up the great work!!

Fantastic content and astounding production quality! I have to say it again. Συγχαρητήρια!

What I love is that Dionisus is the lord of madness/ creation as well as creative madness :)

I love Nietzsche concept: The Apollonian and Dionysian is a philosophical and literary concept and dichotomy/dialectic, based on Apollo and Dionysus in Greek mythology. Some Western philosophical and literary figures have invoked this dichotomy in critical and creative works, most notably Friedrich Nietzsche and later followers.

Fantastic video! The "Od" in Germanic Odin has become our English "Awe", a specific state of Ecstacy (which they say Odin is constantly in as He marvels over the splendor of Existence), and He is also Lord of a magical spirit, the Mead of Inspiration. If someone wants to compare Asgardian and Olympian gods, they'd never understand Odin without seeing the Dionysus in Him. Correlating Odin to Hermes or Mercury alone (stupid Tacitus) refuses proper dignity to both Odin _and_ Dionysus.

The amount of care and design on every video and dialogue is wonderfull, thanks again for the great work 💓

Nuanced and interesting take

Wow, this was a great video! I just finished reading The Immortality Key, by Brian Muraresku. His theory hinges on the idea that followers of Dionysus were consuming a wine mixed with ergot, the fungus that LSD is synthesized from. The madness that you describe was brought about by ritual consumption of this drink, bringing ego death and encounters with the Divine. The cult of Jesus was heavily influenced by the Dionysian rituals, and early Eucharistic wine may very well have been this same mystical brew. EDIT: After typing all that, I realized you made another video describing this very thing! haha! I'm off to watch that one.

The production quality is incredible on this one!! Absolutely loved it

This was an aboslutely beautiful video all around. Loved it!

You are a great storyteller, rhetor, and teacher. The clarity of your expression does not disguise the depth of your emotional connection to Dionysus and the other Gods you discuss. You're articulating something I've been grasping towards for a while, so thank you for your guidance!

So beautifully expressed. Thank you!

Thank you for this video. I read Otto 6 years ago and his understanding of Dionysus left a profound impact on me. I need to watch this 3 or 4 times for fully digest it.

Astounding! Clear, insightful and beautiful.

Your channel is astounding! Great work!

outstanding! I am 58 and must have read, by now, hundreds of books. I first read Otto's Dionysios, Myth and Cult about two years ago. It is easily in the top four of the greatest achievements in non-fiction I have ever encountered. Shockingly brilliant. In my mind Otto captured the bizarre paradoxes of the Energy-Consciousness-Paradox paradigm with such depth...., I was astounded. I will tell you that the film 'Joker' does the same in terms of Art. I can say no more..., just thinking about it all is pushing my mind into madness.....,

Wow, simply an incredible video. One of the best I've ever seen on the topic.

Amazing production!

Amazing channel. Excellent writing. Awesome presentation. Thank you

Great video well done!!!

Such a well done video. Thank you!

Amazing work

Since Graham Hancock cited your RU-vid work on his site, I have been slowly going through your creative content. I am glad for this, as your approach, research, narrative voice, and production are all top-notch. Thank you for sharing your unique perspective. Incorporating myriad viewpoints from a wide array of cultures across the planet is prerequisite for attaining an “open mind.” Keep creating!

Great video.Thanks a lot

this chanel is exactly what i was looking for in Greece but i couldn't find.

What a great video this was, I just stumbled in here and am totally mind blown

I am stunned by the quality of this film. This is really upgrading the human experience through the internet. Thank you.

Wonderful perspective on the subject. This reveals the authentic ideology.

Such great videos

thank you for showing me that people are still awake and thinking. i came here for facts. you gave me truths. it has been a long time since ive heard any truth. thank you

May the Gods never stop shine into your Soul.... thank you again

quality production and refreshing discussion on the true essence of spirituality that has long left our current religions. efkaristo

Wonderful!

Thank you for this wonderful analysis! I'm an artist, and I've rarely heard such a clear explanation of what art actually is and why we do it. It isn't a puzzle or a demonstration--it's the enactment of a myth--that moment when someone sees what life actually is, stripped of distraction.

Wodan/Odin is not equivalent to Zues. The Roman's compared him the Mercury. The only similarity they have is being the high god.

Howdy from halfway around the round, I was messaging you today because I’ve been writing this story that’s centered around past perspectives of mythologies and Gods and this video, the book you mentioned in it about DionYsus and the video you did on the other book by Walter F Otto about the Homeric Gods was a huge inspiration for me whenever I first started trying to write it and I was wondering if I could quote some of this video and that video as a guide and precursor for some of the strange and (probably) paradoxical ideas and situations I write about in my story. If you were to allow me to quote you in this video I swear to fully credit you and acknowledge that the ideas and quotes are from you, and was planning on incorporating your image and your RU-vid channel in the story because it is a perfect example of the absurdity and awesomeness of the world, and the present that we live in, because we are from two polar physical points in the world, You Europe and I the US, but here I am being influenced and inspired and informed by your thoughts and ideas, and then being able to communicate and converse with your and acknowledge how much I appreciate you and your work on a platform that can-and foreseeably should-last for forever. This madness is the epitome, to me, of what it means to be human, and our ability to create and normalize the unnatural and abnormal is essentially what my story is about and I promise that if you give me the opportunity to put you in it, I swear you won’t regret it and I’ll be as respectful and true to your ideas as I honestly can. Also, I can email you the first 3 and half chapters I’ve written( and am still editing) and explain where it is that I want you in the story and your video lectures to be featured at, and explain what I want them to set up and be the preface, or precursor, for. Thank you for your videos and thank you for reading and whether you decide to allow me or not, I sincerely hope you make and produce more because I swear they’re special and will be seen and appreciated by the world some/one day

Είσαι πραγματικά φοβερός, όλες αυτές οι λεπτομέρειες της αρχαίας ελληνικής μυθολογίας είναι αυτές που κάνουν την διαφορά . Δυστυχώς παραλείπονται πολλές φορές κι έτσι έχουμε το φαινόμενο της παραπληροφόρησης και της διαστρέβλωσης των ιστοριών . Η προσπάθεια σου για αυτό το αποτέλεσμα είναι πραγματικά αξιοσημείωτη. Συγχαρητήρια που μας δίνεις ένα τόσο ωραίο και ενδιαφέρον υλικό να παρακολουθήσουμε!!!

Wow this is so awesome and well presented! How can such quality academic and charismatic quality exist on youtube?

_"But what if pleasure and displeasure are so intertwined that whoever wants as much as possible of one must also have as much as possible of the other - that whoever wants to learn to 'jubilate up to the heavens' must also be prepared for 'grief unto death'?"_ - *The Gay Science,* Frederich Nietzsche

Finally a highly competent commentator that I actually like.

beautiful!

Classic research and presentation

I like this thank you 😊

great video

Damn. This video is beautiful. Not just what you said but the symbolism. How did you make this? Would love to create a short symbolic film of some Dionysian ecstatics.

What a stunning delivery of information and a more stunning messenger

Magnifique

Since Classical times, Athens has an annual festival thanking Dionysos for NOT coming to Athens! He gets the women and slaves all uppity, you know.

Great channel. Delighted to find and subscribe. I think it was Camille Paglia who suggested that the 60s social revolutionaries had only a shallow understanding of Dionysus, that they believed the great god was just about pleasure, but had no understanding that his 'divine madness' was ultimately predicated on a sacrifice of the self. Ironic, then, that ultimately the whole 60s revolution itself died....

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Φανταστικό!😵🤐🤩

Wasn't his madness brought on by the death of a companion? Excellent yet again

Er... what about the aspect of Dionysus where his worshippers would ritually murder a sacrifice with their bare hands and drink its blood then give thanks to Dionysus as the god whose flesh and blood they drank, and the historical relationship of this mythological figure to that of the Greek version of Christianity, turning Jesus into a sacrificial figure in turn, post colonial occupation and expansion of the Byzantine empire into the Middle East on the back of mass genocide? There's a lot more going on than just a bit of drunken dancing...

Surely Dionysus is the Freudian Id, the Jungian Unconscious. He is raw instinct at its best and worst-a state of unfettered mind, a true Mr Hyde. The over-simplified "wine" connection stems from wine's ability to remove inhibitions. I just now stumbled on your chanel and look forward to watching more. Thanks!!!

I've argued this a lot: art is the purest form of the scientific process.

Greaaat video man! Dio is my dude

Great treatment of this subject! And much respect for not taking potshots at hitler or NSDAP Have you read Alain de Boinst "on being Pagan" is is great supplement to Otto...they approach paganism from similar place

Is there any place we can purchase the music in this video?

I read somewhere once that Dionysus was more like the god of the magical and mad process of fermentation, which produces alcohol that has a magically maddening effect on people when they drink it. That like the fermentation process itself, the magic is that the soul itself ferments when intoxicated. I think that was a very neat idea.

GRAZIE!

Start by reading Plato: Politeia - Timaeus - Critias for Athenian thought. Add Orphism's doctrine of suffering present in Theatre & X'ity.

The four figures in the painting also seem to be standing mostly naked in what looks winter which only adds to the sense of sorrow and lonely suffering… keep watching this again and again! I am a fan of Dionysus… “all men are within a finger’s breadth of being mad”

@ancient Greeks revisited: Howdy from halfway around the round, I was messaging you today because I’ve been writing this story that’s centered around past perspectives of mythologies and Gods and this video, the book you mentioned in it about DionYsus and the video you did on the other book by Walter F Otto about the Homeric Gods was a huge inspiration for me whenever I first started trying to write it and I was wondering if I could quote some of this video and that video as a guide and precursor for some of the strange and (probably) paradoxical ideas and situations I write about in my story. If you were to allow me to quote you in this video I swear to fully credit you and acknowledge that the ideas and quotes are from you, and was planning on incorporating your image and your RU-vid channel in the story because it is a perfect example of the absurdity and awesomeness of the world, and the present that we live in, because we are from two polar physical points in the world, You Europe and I the US, but here I am being influenced and inspired and informed by your thoughts and ideas, and then being able to communicate and converse with your and acknowledge how much I appreciate you and your work on a platform that can-and foreseeably should-last for forever. This madness is the epitome, to me, of what it means to be human, and our ability to create and normalize the unnatural and abnormal is essentially what my story is about and I promise that if you give me the opportunity to put you in it, I swear you won’t regret it and I’ll be as respectful and true to your ideas as I honestly can. Also, I can email you the first 3 and half chapters I’ve written( and am still editing) and explain where it is that I want you in the story and your video lectures to be featured at, and explain what I want them to set up and be the preface, or precursor, for. Thank you for your videos and thank you for reading and whether you decide to allow me or not, I sincerely hope you make and produce more because I swear they’re special and will be seen and appreciated by the world some/one day

Mad Hatter from Alice is Dionisius

Would like to be able to download these on podcast

We have a Mosaic in Cyprus in The House of Dionysus. Video called CYPRUS HISTORY OF ANCIENT SYMBOLS

BOYO ALERT!

@2:10 is that a Hellenised black sun in the logo animation?

I AM DIONYSUS incarnated with my truth slowly coming to light. My gratitude and solace in all that has befell for all the understanding of words and actions are always romanticized or destructive. Duality is in us all. I am just the bringer of truth and foresight. My words and actions are of a being is constantly mindful of the nature of all things that permeate this beautiful planet and our cosmos. But sadly humans have been deceived for quite sometime now. As for this body and mind does have limits due to the years of incarnation not knowing my truth but i will slowly overcome these things and will regain my memories but for the mean time i leave this.

Great video. I view Dionysus as representing spontaneity and lack of judgment. He's not methodical or uniform. So he's more than dual, he's many. He represents all human emotions. He's empathetic, but can be cruel too.

Can someone tell what is the painting from 10:44?

Amazing video. What's the name of the painting?

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His origins are uncertain, and his cults took many forms; some are described by ancient sources as Thracian, others as Greek.[7][8][9] Though most accounts say he was born in Thrace, traveled abroad, and arrived in Greece as a foreigner, evidence from the Mycenaean period of Greek history shows that he is one of Greece's oldest attested gods. His attribute of "foreignness" as an arriving outsider-god may be inherent and essential to his cults, as he is a god of epiphany, sometimes called "the god that comes".He was Thracian God not Greek

Nietzsche was a Dionysian poet. I highly recommend his work.

Rare to hear Jung's take on Wotan the wandering restless god and its sway over Germany. He felt Nietzsche was most likely influenced by the archetype of Wotan too rather than Dionysus.

The most robust Pagan tradition in the world is the Hindu, and much like Dionysian mythology and symbolism, subject to reinterpretation and misrepresentation by the Christian Church and it’s aggressively predatory mission. The church has wreaked havoc and destruction of many tribal communities, their traditions, rituals and gods. In the modern 21st Century it is seen in the recent ‘Dismantling Hindutva’ Program/Cultural Pogrom. I welcome Europeans to acquaint themselves with the presentations of workers like Rajiv Malhotra on ‘Breaking India’ and on Christian appropriation of Hindu core practices such as Yoga. Dionysius is related to Shiva, the Hindu representation of Consciousness. [see Alain Daneliou] In the Tantras, Consciousness and Energy, Shakti, intertwine to form the cause of the world. Greek civilization was part of Indo-European civilization. For all intents and purposes, Greek, gods and religious practice have long gone and all that remains are museum pieces for us to now interpret as we will. The Greek gods no longer have a voice to speak for themselves. It is therefore now safe for Europeans to be a bit more honest in their analysis and appraisal. Shadows threaten no one. Hindu gods are however still alive and do speak loudly for themselves. When the symbol of Islamic oppression, Jihadist genocide and slavery, the Babri mosque in Ayodhya was turned into rubble by Jubilant Hindu reactionaries, it was widely reported as the end of a secular Indian state by western media. When statutes of slave traders such as Rhodes and Colston, symbols of slavery, oppression and genocide of black Africans were broken and dumped by the British the very same press reported these as acts of celebration. A riddance to those symbols of a dark past.

Wonderful content dude. But you forgot something important. Jung compared Dionysus to LITERALLY THE DEVIL!

What is your take on the adoption of Dionysus by Nietzsche as an anti-christ figure or alternative christ figure? Wonderful video.

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wotan or odin isn't related to the thunderer aspect, tho he has a fatherly aspect as zeus, the thunderer archetype is reserved to thor, for the german mythos. Odin seems to be better related to hermes since his relation with words, language and so on. Therefore comparing odin and zeus doesnt seem to be fair here, they are different archetypes of a same cultural heritage.

The water into wine is a metaphor for sweat pheromones. It makes women kinda drunk

Here from Donna Tartt's The Secret History 😆

Inform them of Hypnos, the sleeping God

Wotan wasnt the thunder-god, but I understand what you mean.

I clicked this video hoping to learn something new about Dionysus, and it was 60% about nazis, 30% Christian apologetics, and 10% condemnation of native Polytheistic religions. Stratified Christian Polemic.

What is madness?

Εάν θέλετε να παρακολουθούν τα βίντεο σας Έλληνες γιατί ακόμη κι οι υπότιτλοι είναι στα Αγγλικά ?

He keeps stating Christianity disrupted Greek culture simply by stating the paganism which it replaced/ended; insinuation that pagan beliefs detailed their whole culture. On the contrary, the Greek populace on the whole (including all classes) were intelligent people. I enjoy studying the paganism of Greece, but the world was changing post-antiquity. Christianity founded a value system and brought the morality required for them to be successful and peaceful people.

Dionysus=death of the ego

I’m not sure what to make of what you’re saying. As a professional commercial artist for virtually my whole life, a writer/storyteller and songwriter guitarist, none of what you say here speaks to me. I have seen the madness though, through drink and drugs. The self deception and indulgence that leads to thoughts like these, that are given an importance, I’m not sure they have. In art, the satanic culture is embraced a lot, in particular by the youth, without know the consequences that comes with embracing these ideas. Do as thou will. This which you’re speaking about here, though not expressly, seems to be leaning and leading in that direction. I’m not sure what you’re getting at really, but it seems to me, the distrust you have for the critics of art, you are yourself practicing. All this said, I subscribed and will dig in a little deeper into what you are doing and saying.

I like to think dionysus is Jesus before he showed back up in the Bible, like Jesus:the missing years. And he's got giant angel wings singing lead vocals for Lynard Skynard.

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Read the immortality key mind blowing new evidence epic shit

S' efharisto! bACCHOs

Dyonisis was the son of shiva ,/ Rudra

Think it was too many topics for one video. But educational nonetheless. Could have done without the Naziism as the connection isnt so straightforward

Bro, I understand the angle you are taking for entertainments sake, but just in general, for some reason we question every single aspect about the SS and the Wehrmact as if they were all clinically insane or incredibly unintelligent... the intelligence, competence, proficiency, and determination of the Germans was never in question by any of the generations who actually fought against them, as it took 27 major countries around the world to take out one single little landlocked patch of land in the middle of the forests of Europe. They rose from the ashes of what was left of Germany post-Versailles Treaty, post-WWI, and after a civil war in Germany, to become the most feared military legion and economic powerhouse of the modern world, all despite the handicaps placed on them after WWI, and despite the entire world suffering and starving in a depression all around them. It's their morality that we question, not their intelligence, nor their competence.

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