The True Story of the Penis Envy Mushroom 

It's so impressive that you can actually interview some of these pioneers before it's too late. Your efforts for uncovering the history is so beyond appreciated.

In 77 I bought a kit out of High Times, still got the mags too. I grew exactly one two inch tall mushroom in a goldfish bowl and that little thing got me high. Those old magazines really take me back now. The world has definitely changed since the internet began.

Psilocybin mushrooms saved my life honestly. They helped me see the pure beauty in life, and made me realize how dumb it would be to take myself out.

Im on my 3rd batch of growing these this year. In my 40th year of life i can say growing these. Taking them in large doses and micro doses they are helping to understand that i can be happy. Ive gotten into therapy and have been finally beginning to understand that what i had thought was "just the way i am" is actually just the way my brain had wired itself due to childhood abandonment and living purely in a survival state due to a violent childhood. I got out of that situation by my late teens but the wiring was built and i did not know. Not sure why im telling the internet this but im stoked for this episode. Much love everyone

Hamilton sir you are my favorite journalist, and the only reporter I'm actively excited to hear from every time you upload. Thank you for your exhaustive work to unravel the histories of these epic scientific achievements, and for trusting your audience to be responsibly informed consumers of your content.

Magic mushrooms are the safest recreational drug to take, get involved I'd say.

"i'm not a final thing kinda guy" sums up his whole vibe, i loved hearing this and learning about his perspective in life. thank you so much for doing the work to get out there and ask questions

They affect all the senses and shift a person's thought processes, sense of time and emotions. Shrooms are very important

I can't think of another scientific field with so many elusive and clandestine groups/labs/people. I wounder how much criminalization hindered the research

Hamilton is a legend! Anyone who has ever grown mushers, or anyone in general should find this convo to be fascinating.

I just had my first experience with penis envy🍄

Depression haunted my life from a very young age, and I was put on a bunch of SSRIs as a child in attempt to deal with it. None worked.Psychedelic mushrooms was brought to my attention. It was the first thing that actually had real effects. They should only be used with great care and respect.

Great interview - so glad these aren't holed up on Patreon. Thanks for letting us in on this.

What a rare interview, so glad both of them had this opportunity. Incredible.

I did 3 grams my first Time when I was 15 and it was not like I expected I remember getting really scared at first then I started having a lot of fun.

This mushroom is what gave me the key to higher consciousness. It was given to me by accident, or should I say, it wasn’t an accident and that it was meant to be. When I started purchasing mushrooms a few years ago, I realized it was just hard to find them, it was a hassle. The person that I went to told me, why don’t you just grow them yourself, it’s not hard. So I started doing research and purchased a kit and a spore syringe. The syringe was supposed to be B+, when the mushrooms fruited I sent pics to my friend, he said that’s not B+ that looks like PE. The vendor mislabeled my spores, after consuming these mushrooms that I grew myself, I had the most amazing breakthroughs. My perspective on life completely changed for the better. Thankful for this strain.

This was amazing. Really clear that Rich is a good guy, and has a lot of experience and life lived. I also loved the mushroom john shade he kept throwing in lmao.

I really hope he didn’t throw away his prints and you can get something out of them Hamilton, his work really deserves preservation and further research. I look forward to an update

i’ve gone down a Hamilton rabbit whole recently after reading blood spore. The work you do is truly incredible and essential to humanity.

Buddy puttin mushroom John through the ringer. This is a hit piece😂😂

You mean to tell me that the guy who invented the psychedelic mushroom that looks like a dick is named RICHARD?! They really do have a sense of humor 🍄

One of the best conversations I've ever heard. Thank you for this Hamilton. I hope you took home a suitcase load of photos and prints!

I've listened to this whole podcast over the course of a few days during my drives to the forest, and such. This is amazing, dude. It genuinely saddens me that I'll probably not hear any more from Richard G. The work that you've done, the work you are doing, and the works yet to come are of immeasurable quality in my opinion. Thank you for understanding the historical importance of these milestones in not just psychedelics but in humanity. We need to share these stories, and I Am so grateful that you do, and by God you do it well! Would Love to dose, and spend some time together. You the man, Hamilton 🙏🏼🕉

Long time lurker, first time poster. Thank you. I've followed you from the moment I was exposed to you. Apprx 4 years. Thank you for what you do for us "regular folks" who study the art of psychnautism. Thank you for your work. It's very helpful to us non scientists. We can study alkaloids all we like, but we'll never truly understand without pioneers like you. I've learned so much, and I'm very grateful.

This is the most fascinating podcast… thank you, Hamilton.

I once met Mushroom John on a flight in August 2000 from San Francisco to South Korea. He was sitting across the isle from me and my buddy. He was acting bizarre and kind of wigging out the entire flight. We had a 24hr lay over in South Korea before our next flight to Bangkok. When we got to the airport and made it to our gate well who was there waiting for our next flight to Bangkok! My buddy and I could not resist and we immediately sat down next to him and said "Hey buddy. Sooo you were acting kind of strange on our long ass flight the day before. What was up with that?" Mushroom John laughs and says "Ha! I ate a bunch of mushrooms right before i got on the flight!" The three of us all started laughing. He told us he lived in my home town of Seattle and used to pick mushrooms at my elementary and middle school and how he wrote books about magic mushrooms. One about the Pacific Northwest, the other about Southeast Asia. He said he lead motorcycle tours in SE Asia where they would ride all day and trip all night. My buddy and I each bought autograph copies of his books (his signature is awesome). I still have my copy of that book to this day. Funny Memories!

The open way of sharing his experience and the respectful reciprocation shown made this a really great listen. Thanks to the both of you.

This is profoundly important. One of the greatest pioneers of psychedelic research and history and most have never heard of him until now. Thank you for your efforts, Hamilton.

OG Shroomery head here. Fascinating to have this iconic era of internet history, rumor and myth revived so many years later. Next you should try and interview Chinacat, from the most epic "LSD Thumbprint" thread. I still remember some of the stories he shared there.

Amazing how such an elusive person has so much to say. It's as if he's been waiting for the right opportunity to tell his story all this time. Fantastic job seeing this through, Hamilton. I feel like it's not only fascinating and beneficial to the wider community to understand the history of PE and the man who gave it to us, but also somehow cathartic to Rich Gee? His willingness to tell this tale in such detail suggests so, anyway.

As someone who loves to listen to people who talk about their passions this was a dream to listen too. Thank you for not giving up!

DMT is definitely the best trip I’ve ever had. Was really amazing!

Hamilton, thank you so much for doing such intensive research and always bringing important information into public knowledge. I’ve been a fan since 2013; I stumbled across you in the “Vice magazine” days. Keep on keeping on! Also, I’m a huge fan of your father’s work. His documentaries were a huge personal inspiration. Thanks so much and keep up the wonderful research! ✌️

I love this interview. Audio and everything, honestly sounds like an old tape recording and I love that

Thank you for doing the insanely intensive leg work to get to this conversation and to share it with us.... I am in awe. Amazing. I really hope Mr G is happy with the outcome of his efforts as well. So wild, and so special for us to be able to experience. Be safe, Mr G

Psychedelics and consciousness are both amazing individualities, and even far more fascinating combined. I've also been experimenting with mapping DMT experiences thru auditory manipulation. I always seem to go back to some sort of Egyptian hyperspace, possible anuaki origin or ultimately human big bang or the bringing or becoming of words ultimately primal birth of human kind. Consciousness from the ether as a physical matter or substance....

Thank you so much for never giving up on learning this story Hamilton. It really has changed my outlook on some things in life.

Psychedelics like psilocybin mushrooms have shown a lot of promise in helping people with mental health issues.

LSD, DMT and psilocybin are extremely amazing. I could remember several years ago, i suffered severe depression and mental disorder. Was actually addicted to alcohol. Not until my mom recommended me to psilocybin mushrooms treatment. Psilocybin treatment saved my life honestly. 8 years totally clean. Never thought I would be saying this about mushrooms.

Used to watch you on another channel that I now question my prior allegiance… but your stories were always amazing, facts on point, voice so soothing and now your own spot to post makes me so happy for you. Glad I found you here as I get back into the world of psychedelics

Your work does not go unnoticed thank you Hamilton for helping to shed light on important missing pieces of history

This is an amazing find! Thank you so much for your dedication to trying to make this interview happen.

Hamilton is becoming one of my favorite interviewers. This was incredibly interesting!

incredible to hear his story. Much appreciated that you created the opportunity for us to listen.

This is the best, most nuanced and informative channel I have the fortune to subscribe to.

Can somebody please get this guy a glass of water?

thanks for putting this out for free. the wisdom I've gained will not be forgotten. I don't think I would have heard this podcast in any another platform.

Thank you for letting us listen to this fascinating interview. Thank you to Mr. Gutierrez for allowing you to record it.

I used to cowar away from hamilton's vice videos. After I had a great anti-anxiety mushroom trip, I now appreciate the pioneering of Hamilton's adventures and deep/credible research.

Dope ass interview wtf crazy Hamilton you've outdone yourself on this one man!!

I’ve been working with psilocybin mushrooms for years there healing processes are mind blowing.!!

Such an amazing story. Love Richard. Thank you Hamilton for all your work, things like this must be remembered. Thank you again!

I have a brother with diagnosed bipolar 1 disorder with psychotic features, as well as some other mental health issues. Listening to the gentleman in your interview sounds just like listening to my brother during certain periods of his disorder. During these episodes it is my experience, that there is almost always some nugget of absolute truth within everything that he talks about. The problem is being able to determine what is the nugget of actual truth within the entirety of what he is saying. I have also experienced situations where I was a participant in what he was talking about. So, I knew from my own experience what was actual truth and what was exaggerated, distortions, misrepresentations or otherwise not the truth as I experienced it. Additionally, I have experienced situations where I knew that all of the pieces of what he was talking about were true to my experience but, he had weaved them together in such a way that it was impossible to associate what he was saying to the experience I had. I share this to give possible context to your interview. I also appreciate the patience, tolerance and impartiality with which you conducted the interview as well as the persistence you exhibited to get through to Richard. And, I am grateful that Richard exhibited the vulnerability to allow you to interview him and post this interview.

This must be one of the most interesting interviews ever, seriously. Hamilton with his empirical materialist perspective and this legend with his legit Don Juan odyssey.

hamilton i been watching u since i was 14 and i must say that u inspire me to keep pushing for the things that interest me

You're sincerely one of my favorite journalist, thanks for everything you do

These are the closest I've come to a DMT trip without doing DMT. The geometric-ish patterns were identical for me.

You are one of my favourite people, hamilton. thank you for the amazing free educational stuff.

Thank you for this. What an amazing feat to be able to speak to all of these legends!

I love your content, brother! You’re a true journalist and trooper

Hamilton you’re a great guy!!!! I would love to hear a solo episode of you just talking about various trip experiences. Things you’ve learned, thoughts on life, maybe some horror stories or some very trippy moments. Anything you recommend doing when tripping? So many questions i would love answered by nobody other than you!!

There's nothing more triggering to me than wet mouth noises but this was so fascinating I couldn't stop listening to him speak. Absolutely amazing.

Thanks for leaving this uncut. I was expecting someone to talk about their experiences cultivating and instead get an absolutely wild tale involving: -Ghosts -The Grim Reaper -Seeing the future -Going back in time to the formation of the Earth -Hot takes on the big bang -Astral projection -Horoscopes -Getting shot in the head -Being dead when he is clearly alive The man is clearly eccentric, a really curious case

Just got a half ounce of PE and I sampled it by eating just one small one. Can confirm it's significantly stronger than any other strain I've tried, including freshly picked 'derrumbe' Landslide mushrooms in San Jose del Pacifico, Oaxaca.

So my buddy lives in Seattle and has some interesting connections... The story I'm hearing as to why they aren't growing wild as much anymore is because the University of Washington was planning to spray fungicide on the wood chips to prevent students from harvesting on campus, Paul S. got word of this and out of "concern for poisoning" he told the school they just needed to mix Cedar chips into the mostly Alder chips they use as mulch, and the mushrooms won't grow because Cedar has tannins that prevent it, and now the city picked up the practice and mixes cedar into all the wood chips used around town.

I remember the McKenna's first book, and sending my money off to Hawaii. And I remember trying the mushrooms with my wife. Now that's a memory. Good work Hamilton!

One of the most captivating interviews I've seen. Thank you Hamilton

Can’t get enough of these historic interviews!

I was so enraptured that I forgot several times that you were there to talk about the PEs. Richard's experiences remind me a lot of stories my mother and grandmother would tell me when I was young.

Fantastic interview! Thanks for sharing this. Preserving and understanding history is so important.

Great interview! I'm very grateful you were open to asking questions about the spiritual aspect of these things despite not having an inclination in that direction yourself. Thanks for sharing this with us!! :)

Your ability to communicate and share the knowledge and experiences of others is beyond comprehension. Thank you for sharing these experiences for all to enjoy and learn from. I can only hope to gain a percent of the wisdom that you share in my lifetime. This video most of all has spoken to me in a way that I cannot express in words. I sincerely thank you for sharing.

What a listen, so great to learn the true origin of my personal favorite strain. Hamilton as always thank you!

Excellent job letting this man tell his story.

Dude I had no idea you were free now. That's so dope I'm so excited to finally hear the cast. I've always been tight kn money so all I could listen to was clips on the web. Subscriiiiiiibed

That was quite the story. Thank you for sharing! I used to work with someone that had brain damage from an illness when she was a teen. She had no facial recognition ability. Like him, her eyes would "see" it but the center of the brain that processed faces couldn't put it together.

This is gold, thanks Hamilton.

I have so much respect for you Hamilton because you have one foot in or one foot out as well with you're curiosity for experience and scientific knowledge. It's never black and white with you, and you always allow people's interpretation to be heard and respected. I trust you and appreciate you Hamilton thanks!

Hamilton this is insanely cool - and I know it wasn’t easy to get him to talk. Thank you so much. Incredibly important. What an amazing and strange mind.

Hamilton it is because of this video being uploaded to youtube in its entirety..... that I must become a patron

Fascinating talk, thank you for tracking the dude down! As for the supernatural stuff: I've been a very rational person my whole life, always loved studying natural sciences and have a degree in physics, but I've had some telepathic experiences with friends as an adult and lots of weird stuff happening to me as a kid. Now, most of the stuff as a kid I could put off as an overactive fantasy, but once I had a very real feeling dream of a plane crash and a couple days later I saw pictures of that very crash in a newspaper and the aforementioned telepathic experiences were with closed eyes, no physical touch and confirmed by all participants. Makes me wonder about the stuff he talked about and some things I've personally witnessed (namely presence of invisible beings) with no way of confirming or disproving them. I'm trying to both remain sceptical and at the same time keep an open mind, which is often a bit difficult. It'll be interesting to see what kind of phenomena might get explained yet within my lifetime.

This really hit me close to home in so many ways. I'm so thankful to be able to hear this man tell his tale.

Thank you so much for this Hamilton Morris. This is incredible.

The first sponsored product I actually cared to buy, thanks Hamilton!

Dude this is legendary. what awesome dedication

The 'Amazon' strain was exceptionally potent. more so than the average cube. cutting it in half one could watch the flesh turn dark blue, almost black, in under 20 seconds, with a fuzzy white outer ring. As a Psilocybe follower since 1998 I deeply appreciate this thorough exploration Hamilton, thank you!

Wow! Amazing listen. He’s been so elusive.but yet, it’s almost like he’s been waiting his whole life to tell his story. I’d like to hear more about Richard😎👍🏻👌🏻

Best anything you've done so far friend, thank you so much for this

fucking incredible work man. so excited you’re uploading to youtube now. and while i miss the show, but the fact that we now get 2 hour deep dives into stories like these.. well, I think i might even prefer this content to Pharmacopoeia. Keep up the good work dude

Outstanding interview you never gave up on finding out the true story and it was very informative quite unexpected revealings and obvious at the same time when it came to the name but historical for the community

That nicotine warning is so legit Dear god if you aren’t addicted to nicotine you don’t want this!!!

Dude, you’re a genius storyteller. I can listen to you for hours.

this is my personal favorite strain of mushrooms. its always had me experiencing the most potent and insightful trips, they really are great

Quite obviously one of the best podcasts of all time. This one changed my life and I hope it is the case for you too!

Much love Hamilton. There is not mush room for improvement in your excellent work.

His comments about having died and come back with a new outlook reminds me of my insane trip I had in high-school. I had an out of body experience that was full of many different experiences one of which was being in an endless void of nothing where time didn't exist. I had time to sit there and think and wonder where I was and what was happening and I came to the conclusion I must be dead and I went through all the emotions of that scenario so when I snapped back into my body and reality as we see it day to day I had a whole new appreciation for just being in a physical body again, breathing air and hugging loved ones and little things we take for granted. In that experience I realized our consciousness lives on without our physical body. Our body's are just vehicles used to explore this part of creation and there is soooo much more to learn and experience than we could possibly know in one lifetime. So if the purpose of taking a physical body to explore and learn and grow it would be such a cruel joke to tease us with so many lessons to learn and experiences to have but only give us one lifetime to try and soak it all up.

This guy is an absolute pleasure to listen to . I wish there could be a utube channel with more people like this guy being interviewed .

I survived a 10g pe trip 😂

I haven't even watched this yet and I'm gibing it a thumbs up because I can anticipate how much of a masterpiece this is going to be.

RU-vid is gonna end up taking this down I bet one day which is a disgrace. Make sure this audio is safe it’s actually precious.