I love that in a audio recording in doom etrnal, a UAC scientist basically said "We killed thousands, and millions more took their place" it doesn't matter how many you kill, only the hellwalker could make a difference
Icon of Sin: Stands there... And absorbs 40k into itself, corrupting everything. Doom Demons: Cannot be corrupted. They're using Davoth's energy, a Primeval's energy. Doomguy is a Primeval, and he's incorruptible. 40k Warp has soul's, Doom Demons love soul's. The Warp is the Soup store.
@@augsnow2067 The first edition of Warhammer 40K came out in 1987. And the first doom game came out in 1993 six years later. 40k has been around longer.
@@BreadTeleporter1968 I never said it wasn't. The other guy said "it's been around longer" as in doom as a *series* has been around longer than 40k not as a *first person shooter* If that's not what he ment then my guy needs to structure his sentences a bit more clearly.
Also, makes it so you don't need to make a first episode an hour long. It can be an introduction, gauges interest in the universe, and can get you extra suggestions for survivor challengers
23:40 That's false, we see Doomguy perma-killing the Champion TITAN. And remember, he did it while in Hell without his Crucible. So no, Doomguy CAN permanently kill Titans. With or without his Crucible Sword.
Except we have no idea how that happened and we have no idea if he used a crucible or not. There are many Crucibles and they originate in Hell. It’s very possible he used one. Also the whole reason Doomguy went to get the Crucible in Eternal was specifically so he could kill Icon. There’s no indication that Doomguy could have killed him without it.
Its an inconsistency, when we get the hilt we snap off the blade, why do that unless the blade is what's making sure the titan stays dead. The same thing happens with the icon so either he had crucible that he used to finish off the champion or he just beat the demon to the point his soul left
@@rougarabidhe didnt have crucible cuz one he had in argent dnur was stuck in dreadnaught that was there, titan that was in hell was killed by bare hands most likely
@@rougarabidthe Icon was killed by the doomguy without a crucible in doom 2. It’s very unlikely he had one while trapped in Hell as well. If he did then the Demon’s corpse wouldn’t be rotted away, it’d just be stuck in stasis. Titans can be killed without a crucible but they’ll be revived in time. The crucible keeps them in stasis so they cannot be revived in the future. I mean even the Icon in Eternal is brought to near death by the slayer’s normal weapons. Titans aren’t invulnerable.
@@rougarabid during this time in hell doomguy had no weapons or armor he fought the titan with his bear hands and killed him by punching him until it died, also the reason why he got the crucible was because he was on a time crunch and sealing the Icon of sin (because that is what the crucible does) was faster than killing it
@@HyperDash47 it’s not that he’s basically saying that a lot of times in games the lore will state something that’s not necessarily consistent with what we’re seeing but if we take everything as a composite then universes are severely jacked prime example if we take Pokémon for example considering the lore. certain lengendaries can create universes or they’re cosmic beings but they can be beat by a random wild rattata you caught if you level it enough if we take it the lore and the play through at face value Wild ratattas are pontential universal
@@HyperDash47 yea and the idea of a random rattata being a pontential universal god is hilarious. Doom is a bit more consistent than Pokémon but it applies here even though I think rouge is being as fair as possible
If any of the demons were passively just faster than light--removing the other concerns about what happens you take a physical body and move it at that speed--you would not be able to even see them in any sort of clarity at all, because they would be moving faster than the light that would be reflecting off of them to hit your eye. At most, the demon would just be some non-descript blob of motion that you could barely process as being in your area, even when they were standing still because they probably can't actually stand truly still like a statue.
@@ShimmyFr Gameplay doesn't represent lore. I mean good luck trying to play a game where you're moving in the speed of light. It's all for balancing reason. You don't want the gameplay to match the lore because it won't be fun to play.
If I remember correctly, there was a codex that told about a mechanized unit that attacked the big portal in germany that was powered by a giant heart in a reactor. They managed to fight their way into the reactor building but got overrun in the end.
Downstreamers make the Xelee look like pansies. Same author too
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Well, DOOM universe has magic, I'm pretty sure the Xeelee Sequence is supposed to be a realistic portrayal of what technology can become. In DOOM they travel between dimensions and destroy universes...
I not read xeelee but for what I see is peak scientific story . I shor they can hold them self good . But you can still ignore hell for have no something as Time one thing xeelee hve control on I don't no what they do with magic but I think they can win
And the xeele have such msatery of time travel they went back to the start of the universe. . Demons woud be wiped out the exact insstant they entered the same dimension as the xeele. Yes, a full power Davoth woud defeat them, but that is just a question of raw power, not "magic beat technology".
Star wars and Warhammer (from my understanding) have an absolute fuckton of lore and messy stuff with canonicity but I would absolutely love to see invincible considering how small and potentially powerful it is.
@@PabloLewis-ve6ud Depends what SW. Canon ain't doing shit besides blowing some planets. But Legends with Nihilus, Abeloth and Valkorion, Damn it would be interesting
Rougarabid, You really need to do a video on the Cult of the Lamb versus the Doom Demons. I don’t care if you think it would be a one sided battle. You have to do it
Definitely but that not the goal of the hell and when they use argent is is concentrated by their weapons or not purely argent as all demons he’s varying level or amount of argent in them
Great video, I loved this one. Something alot of people dont bring up however is that when the demons used all their magic to entomb the slayer in the cursed sarcophagus, they only sealed him away for a reason. Its because they couldnt kill him. So that does kind of prove that the slayer is unkillable by the demons, as why would they only seal him away and risk him getting released again if they could actually kill him instead? Him getting damaged on mars could easily be explained as him being significantly weaker during the events of 2016, due to being sealed away for billions of years. Another thing is that the Slayer CAN kill titans. The Champion's corpse was shown in the level Titan's Realm in Doom 2016, and it has no crucible embedded within its body anywhere.
There’s a difference between not being able to kill him and being incapable of damaging him. One means he’s to skilled and badass the other means he’s to durable. Him bleeding on Mars proves he’s not to durable.
Obviously he can't die, he's the concept of will, or at least human will, so as long as there are beings (or least humans) that feel will, I doubt he can die.
When it comes to who could fight and stand a chance against Dooms universe it's mainly Asura, Dante, Vergil, (maybe Nero), and Kratos(iunno entirely about Kratos since Thor did kill him in the beginning of Rag)
@rougarabid They are using the nemesis system for a Wonder Woman game? Okay Wonder Woman is a great character but I don’t think the Nemesis system would work in that kind of game.
Man you are quickly becoming my favorite channel on this god-forsaken site. If you ever need help, I really want to get into content creation and could use the experience.
@@rougarabid mostly anime and I'm starting Warhammer, but i like to get really into all kinds of weird stuff. p.s. sorry i just checked my notifications.
Make a Video, of anime universes versus Doom demons. Anime has some very strong characters, also many per universe. Also anime has series like "demon Slayer"...
Just to give you a short rundown; infinite speed is having speed that let's you travel infinite distance in finite time. Immeasurable speed is being able to travel through time with sheer speed alone. Irrelevant speed is being completely beyond the speed formula, or basically being beyond time. What you called acausality could also be perceived as irrelevant speed, though I wouldn't go that far
I'm looking forward to who you will have them go up against there are alot of universes that would be a good match-up to the demons like like Final Fantasy 7 since the materia system has ways to counter act alot of how the demons fight but sepheroth is kinda broken so even the higher demons would probably fall. Oh and as cool as something like destiny sounds cool as far as I'm aware the demons in doom don't have access to paracausal weapons so they might be able to kill a guardian but they wouldn't be able to stop the ghost from reviving a guardian and the guardians do have weapons and ability's to kill the demons so the demons best bet is to hope a guardian gets corrupted and joins there side
honestly if doom guy is able to kick demons ass trough sheer will then i maybe have an interesting world they could invade the sword art online universe or to be exact the alicization arc/the underworld I know this is kind of out of nowhere but i will get to the point the underworld can grant the people who have the will to fight: more power, if they believe they can win, they will because of the underworld rules. but even despite this i don’t think at any second they stand a chance of course the doom universe is stupidly strong beyond realisation, but i still want to know how far they would go anyway.
its not so much just sheer will as it is that doomguy can absorbed the argent energy from the demons, that and he's been blessed to have the power of davoth
Faster than time is very simple it litterally means moving so fast that if someone tried to stop time it wouldnt do shit to you because you through sheer speed and i mean speed will still be able to move because you simply that fucking fast
Sounds like time stop with more steps. Speed is distance divided by time. If no time is moving it’s not speed. You just stopped time. You literally can’t call it speed without any time to calculate. That’s what speed is.
@@rougarabid okay i see i have to some how explain it even more Basic. So character A stops time time is frozen, still, halted the fucking universe is not moving Because time is stopped. However despite this being the case character B is still walking around simply because they that fast. Character b isnt doing this because of some time manipulation or resistence. Its just speed sheer speed theres litterally nothing else to it, its such a Basic thing to understand like moving faster than time means exactly what those 4 words say. at least in how linear time works to 3th dimensional beings like us aka fuck our formula it doesn't matter
@@pimpdemon9458 And I’m saying that’s nonsense. No time, no speed. You can call it simple but you’re literally defining speed wrong to make this point. What that character has is super speed and a resistance to time stop. The ability to perceive events in stopped time and move within it. Essentially speed cannot exist without time. Remove time as a factor and you can’t call it speed. If you do you are misdefining the word which is what internet scalers fuckin’ love doing. It’s like their favorite thing. Just making up a bunch of nonsense. You can keep pretending like I don’t understand what you’re saying. I do. You’re wrong and it’s nonsense. It’s not that I don’t get it. I don’t agree with your fake science.
@@rougarabid thats the point its a dumb sciences power scalers created to explain how a character has been shown or stated to move in a place where linear time is completely stopped. Is it silly yes but its the best way to explain it. Like it doesn't matter what you think if a character moved faster than time to bad they did it
@@rougarabid I'd say it's more that they have more than infinite speed, where the speed formula has to say that they can move in 0 time. In other words, if an object moved from point A to point B in 0 time in theory the object has infinite/unlimited speed Though, I can see why it's so weird. Imagine it more as like the same thing with the doom univers discovering that Argent Energy is even hotter than the hottest thing that was assumed to be able to exist. Here it's that this object is so fast that it breaks the laws of physics in a sense (And as I checked, yes it is in theory correct. In practice, that's another story. But in practice any mass shouldn't go faster than the speed of light. So I mean, I could be seen as correct in a sense)
Try to cut the breakdown segments of each gaming gunner(s) by half using some bullet points. That way, you could implement more candidates into your next and (possibly) ongoing V. DOOM Hell series. (Also, maybe some fanart for the scenarios during each segment, but that is more of a luxery based suggestion, so it's all good either way. On that note, great job with your content! It is pretty fun and informative for what you're putting out)
There was a lore detail that imps showed up as a blur to the human eyes somewhere in base eternal. I forget where the codex entry is tho. So for imps (which is the second weakest demon), so that should hopefully help with the speed feats
I’d love to see the devils of the Nine Hells versus the demons of doom. They’re already Blood War veterans with experience fighting demons, I wanna see how they fare.
I can tell you one person who can solo them, dante due to the insane hax, regeneration and being able to destroy red soul which is a higher dimensional structure, and some how breaking the axis of time with his pure speed somehow.
Definitely know if there’s a demon invasion in destiny the demons will put up a good fight but I don’t think argent energy can destroy a ghost. Also there guns literally defy all physics
Doom guy's plasma gun is Argent-based. It's used to kill souls. Like the Spirit demons in The Ancient God's DLC. How else would the demons even torture to harm souls and gain more energy from them? Rapping mean things to them?
Argent Energy is literally made of souls. A ghost is a soul without a body. Demons would likely slap the Destiny universe. Only beings like Oryx would be able to combat someone like Davoth, and I still think Davoth would slap.
23:45 Doom guy can. The Crucible is just a faster way. The Icon of Sin is coming back repeatedly because some demon or another would rebuild the thing and posess it. Like you have said before, Doom Demons are just Dead husks. Doom guy absorbs the powers not memories.
That’s not true. There’s a whole section of the game where Doomguy has to go get the Crucible from the Sentinel Homeworld specifically because he needs it to kill Icon. It’s stated by Hugo and Samuel Hayden to be the only way to kill them and even then only as long as it stays in their body.
@@rougarabid Nah, can't be. There's a level in 2016 that shows us a skull of a Titan *without a crucible blade* on it. If Hugo did state it, then it's likely with a further context of him saying that it's the only way for other people to kill a Titan. Not by that wording, but you get what I mean. Titans having granted True Immortality doesn't make any relative sense because it would mean that Davoth could grant his people that immortality. The Jekkadians to be more specific. In which... They aren't. We fought them in the TAG 2 DLC and yet they still fall like mushy meat paste. No returning back from the dead or any of that stuff. Doom guy just didn't kill that knocked out titan in Eternal because he's in a rush. Literally. You know, because of the Icon being resurrected by the Maykr's.
i genuinely wonder how jujutsu kaisen would fare against the demonic invasion. i mean hell, we have sukuna with world-cutting slash which basically just. removes the targeted space instantly aka durability negation, higaruma's deadly sentencing cursed technique which not only completey forbids violence but if the defendant is found guilty of particularly heinous crimes, higaruma's gavel transforms into the executioners sword which instantly kills anyone it touches, mahoraga who can adapt to any opponent on the fly, and especially takaba who can make literally anything a reality if he thinks that it'd be funny (though the issue with him is that he's too dumb to know how to use it properly)
Depends. How resistant is the verse to corruption? Hell Energy passively transforms creatures and souls exposed to it into Demons, while augmenting their inherint powers and abilities.
Power scaling is such a tricky thing to balance. I'm working on a setting that works on DBZ logic. So you've got characters who are naturally powerful and well above superhuman but regular earth humans can suplex a tank and fly if they train the right way. How? I'm working on it, alright.
i cant belive it took me all this time to think of it... pitting the scp universe against the doom universe, the amount of crazy fu ckined up weird powers and lore in scp is amazing, it helps thta its made by every damn writer on the internet and is ever expeanding. and everythings cannon... or not... its kind of confusing, even original ips can end up part of the scp universe like siren head and mal0 which werent even part of the story till people liked em so much the scp wrietsr just said f#$k it and added em... hell pizza towers main character pepinno speggetis in the damn universe now, its a free for all, anything goes for all i know with how popular these videos are doom guy or the goddamn doot demon is gonna end up part of scp.
Good video, would love to see your option on how the devil may cry universe would do. Personally I think they're very comparable in terms of power and characters like dante have a chance at even beating doomguy.
It doesn't say it is at that temperature it sais that the plasma is stable at temperatures higher than before thought possible, meaning at a certain preasure it reaches higher temperatures and is still stable while our math sais it should not be. And argent energy is just hell essence combined with wraith energy and hell troops use hell essence. As i understand it
5:35 to be fair most of people think that because there are literally no scars on Doom Guy that would come from demons, same with his armour. Im not saying that Doom guy can't be hurt by Argent, but thanks to him being a being more powerfull then anything in his universe, I think he just regenerates himself so fast that it is imposible to see it in naked eye, that would explain why both humans and demons are so freaking terrified of this guy. 7:00 I belive that Devinitive Machine didn't buusted Doom Slayer powers, only woke them up. From moment of his birth he was a freaking god destined to beat Davoth (devs stated that Doom Slayer was destined to beat Davoth, I think). Devinitive machine awaken his powers and thanks to this he could use all his power, and beceame guy who was supposed to kill Davoth. You probably think why Davoth went so easy, if they were supposed to be arch nemesis, Frieza and Goku, Darkseid and Superman, Batman and Joker thing. I think it is because Doom Slayer was killing demons for thousand of years or longer. He quite literally was consuming their souls and stopping them from being reborn, which kinda gives him infinite potential. He eated so many souls that he basicly ragdolled Davoth. 14:58 From what I have seen, via gameplay, they can dodge bullets and any other shooting weapon that Doom guy has, BUT they are not faster or as fast as Doom Slayer, otherwise he should be able to dodge his guns even when they attack like Doomguy who was able to dodge their attacks when he was shooting,. Let's also not forget that Slayer was able to dodge and keep up with beings like Khan Maykyr or Samuel Hayden in his corrupted form (although it depends if travel speed and fighting speed are the same, although second one should have better stats), so by this logic Maruder is near that level, but maybe this is some gameplay bullshit. Well, that's it, please if you want to insult my family and every other being that knows me, it is ok, but DON'T INSULT MY DOGS.
Alex Mercer or James Heller would see the demon horde as a huge source of biomass. Even if argent energy burns so hot running through demon veins, their biomass would help Alex and james cope with it. They move at insane speeds, possess strength and durability that only gets higher and higher the more biomass they consume, plus a healing factor that can regenerate Mercer from a puddle of blood or from the body of a crow infected. After consuming enough imps, they’d both become resistant to argent, possibly even begin to channel it by replicating the demon biology through shapeshifting. They’d be tearing through hell knights with critical mass abilities now fueled by demonic biomass. James and Alex definitely would become more demonic in features and powers, however, though it’a strongly possible james heller has a soul that can be corrupted, Alex Mercer has no soul, he’s just a virus that takes on Alex’s identity, meaning the evil souls have nothing to inhabit once their demon meat suit gets devoured!
Ya know I just realized how come when he did cult of the lamb gauntlet he never talk about Astor blade of the monolith or am I trippin and he said he would do it ?😅
I think people get confused with him not being able to be damaged because it has been stated that without his armor, he was still in hell beating the shit out of demons, but it’s like Kratos. He has a healing factor. It’s very difficult to damage him confused because they couldn’t kill him, even after they knocked him out while dropping entire mountain on him, they only steal him away. so they believe they couldn’t damage him but damaging and killing something are different
I tried finding the codex stating that the UAC was unable to kill a baron and a hell knight but it never says that. This isn't a gotcha I just want to find those codex you're talking about.
It’s in DOOM 2016 not Eternal. They talk about their trips to Hell and state to just avoid the Baron’s all together because they can’t take them down. Hugo Martin mentioned in an interview that Earth was incapable of taking down a single Titan during the invasion.
@@rougarabid I wasn't talking about the titans. I looked at the Baron's codex and it doesn't mention them trying to avoid it. It just says how they couldn't be captured. But capturing is a lot different from killing, it's easier to kill than it is to capture. Which specific codex in 2016 states them trying to avoid them, because I can't find it.
"UAC REPORT FILE: I2CN5KMB The Baron of Hell is the highest demon among the order of the Hell Knights. They rarely leave Hell, and no Baron of Hell has yet been captured by any of the Tethering Operations. Details regarding their behavior and physiology are therefore limited." They weren't UNABLE to capture them, they just never did, and Hell Knights said nothing about them not being able to be captured either
The uac is most likely never used the bfg10k against one target because of collateral damage and qhat not... or maybe they did i don't know but i doubt they did
5:39 I want to think that he either got hit by a zombie and that ended up scratching him before he put his armor on, or it’s one of the bosses because I don’t think that a normal fucking demon can damage Doomguy considering the armor was never scratched in hell. 14:39 I’m gonna steal this from Reddit Infinite - Capable of moving an infinite distance within a finite amount of time. Inaccessible - Capable of moving an infinite distance in zero time. Immeasurable - Unbound by linear time, capable of time traveling (for example, backwards in time) by running fast. Irrelevant - Beyond the concept of speed. Usually tied to being beyond the concept of dimensionality altogether, with no concepts of space or time to measure with the speed formula, but not always. Back to not stealing from Reddit The rest of these make sense beside immeasurable, I’m starting to see your point, but technically. Immeasurable speed is kind of a useless feat when you think about it, although I think all of the other ones make sense I heard someone said immeasurable speed is the speed formula but with negative numbers which makes no fucking sense. Infinite is applicable because infinite divided by a finite time exists it’s just impossible to do. Irrelevant and inaccessible aren’t possible because there is no time 20:27 thing is though, I don’t feel like they do have resistance to soul manipulation because of the spirit enemy but I do see your point, they could just be willingly letting the spirit do that Also I remember at one point you said that time fuckery is the reason DOOM 2016 happened and it’s just the original DOOM events but fucked with the timeline, I forgot when, this cannot be true because they happened in different years… very different years
Then why does Doomguy keep upgrading his armor? Every game he makes it stronger with new weapons and has accumulated dozens of different armors. What’s the point in upgrading if they couldn’t damage the original? Just a hobby? There’s no real evidence they are incapable of damaging it and honestly if a fricken basic Zombie was able to harm it at the start of the game Doomguy wouldn’t have been able to get as far through this series as he has. Infinite - They can’t move an infinite distance in a finite amount of time because if they stop somewhere it wasn’t infinite. What you’re saying would only be the case if they literally never stop running and time never moves but then that’s just time stop. Inaccessible - same as above. You just said the same thing twice in 2 different ways. They’re both moving while time isn’t. Immeasurable - That’s just speed activated time travel. Many characters can do that without having to run. What a bunch of pussies. Irrelevant - Sounds like you’re saying the person exists in all locations at all times which is in no way linked to speed. It’s omnipresence. Yeah pretty sure the Spirits work with the Demons. Amping them and giving them strength. That doesn’t really mean much. The new timeline introduced Argent, the Maykrs, Sentinel Technology and many other factors into Earth’s history that wasn’t there in the original timeline. Any one of these could have altered events to make the demons invade at a different time period. And honestly it’s not TGAT big of a difference. OG DOOM was unspecified but in the 21st Century and DOOM 2018 was in the 22nd Century around 2140. That’s not that big of a difference considering how many alterations to the timeline there were.
@@rougarabid ok fair point, also the reason why infinite and inaccessible speed work is because fiction. For that you kinda just gotta say it’s fiction so it works but yea, you’re right, it makes no sense logically speaking, as for the armor upgrades at least, it could very well just be gameplay mechanics and not actually relevant, also canonically Doomguys weapons are a hobby of his correct? Can’t he just fucking murder these demons, I don’t see why armor upgrading couldn’t be a hobby, but yea, you have a fair point, I’m not against the bosses scratching him, mainly the cyber demon because that’s the one they actually had on mars, because I don’t see any other normal demon being able to keep up with this guy.
While he Does get Hurt in the Mars base Event, he is an absolute immortal and invincible being in Doom Eternal, Doomguy was more vulnerable in 2016 only because the Praetor suit was pretty much a more primitive version of the new fully built Eternal Suit (plus the DOOM MUSCLES BABY). They also called Doomguy a Subject, which probably flew over your head but they drew some blood from Doomguy when he was probably in his sarcophagus or shortly after opening it with Samuel's Help. That in itself changes all what you just said basically, if Argent really could Harm Doom Slayer, it means the Dark Lord had a morbid chance of winning, which makes 0 sense considering the Codex says how omnipotent and omnipresent Doomguy is in Eternal.
Your argument doesn’t hold water. For one if the humans could draw blood that means the demons could damage him considering they are far more powerful. 2 it says in the codex that “Attempts to wake the man were fruitless - and to harm him even more so - as a protective Argent barrier around the body kept him safe from harm in permanent stasis.” It makes it clear they couldn’t affect him one way or the other. How could they draw blood if they couldn’t harm him in any way? No he could have only been made to bleed after being revived from stasis which could only be done be the demons.
Argent attacks are as hot as the surface of the sun. (Doom 2016) Still hot, but that’s the argent attacks. Clearly even imps can be physically contained without melting their cell, so not particularly hot.
@@hardwyn2electricboogaloo904 False. “Argent Energy is produced by neutron activation of Argent plasma, a new and powerful substance that was discovered on Mars. This produces an exothermic reaction where recorded temperatures within the plasma have exceeded previously accepted theoretical limits. Through a process not yet fully understood, Argent plasma remains stable and self-contained throughout. Conventional nuclear power is obsolete. What used to take a nuclear reactor 12 months to produce can be generated in a few seconds by the Argent Tower and packaged into an Argent Accumulator no larger than Samuel Hayden's hand.” A description of Argent energy in DOOM Eternal. “Recorded temperatures have exceed previously accepted theoretical limits”. The theoretical limit of heat in our universe is 2.5 decillion degrees. Argent is hotter.
You've done a couple Shooter universes vs the demons, but shooters are in general high tech, low magic, and the demons are high tech, high magic. How would they compare to other, similar weight class universes? How would the demons compare to any Final Fantasy universe, for example? They have swords that can kill anything, enough people that can summon LITERAL GODS to fight for them that they have an entire class built around it, random monsters just roaming around that are at least city-level threat, and bosses that are universe-levels consistently. Not to mention they have plenty of monsters that have mental effects (like the corruption) and ways to counter them with either spells or items. They literally have an item that cures death, and it's not even that rare. Most of the demons would just be the equivalent of random world encounters, with the upper end being late game bosses. Not much would actually change for the inhabitants I think.
We do know that normal weapons can and do kill demons as the earlier doom games are canon and those weapons dont have or use argent energy. Sure they are different timelines and universes but its the same demons. So doing power scaling in any way is almost impossible
1: Doomguy has ALWAYS been able to empower his weapons, he is a primeval, and hinted at being something even more(meaning that even without the divinity machine, it is possible that Doomguy was at a level above Davoth) 2: that was BEFORE Argent Energy was discovered, meaning demons were MUCH weaker. because Khan Maykr is the one who decided to add the two energies together in the first place
@@DarthNox66 scp “characters” are basically just deviant art donut Steele OCs especially in terms of power and also narrative. Make of that what you will
Its technically the same universe, but we should see bj blaskowitz fight them. Remember the nazis made a bfg prototype you can find. Theres even ingame text saying it uses partial energy from an unknown source Also, i love the idea of zeds vs demons
Overall amazing video but I gotta give some criticism. The statement given by Dr. Elena about how they got a sample of the Slayer's blood is indeed an anti-feat, but I feel like you can't just use that anti-feat to negate his overall feat that is more consistent than Dr. Elena's claim. I mean his power and state of existence alone is equal, if not, superior than Davoth, the literal creator of the entire Doom multiverse. I mean you mentioned that anti-feat, but didn't mention how the Slayer struggled on breaking the chains that chained him in the sarcophagus, during the part where you're talking about how the Slayer broke the chains that chained the Titans. I'm not looking for arguments, just a civil discussion if we can but it just doesn't make sense how you brought the anti-feat to negate his overall durability and how durable he is based on the feats that we see. I mean you also brought up the fact that the Slayer beat the Champion, a Demon vastly stronger than any of the Demons we faced in 2016. Plus, he beats the Champion, at least presumably< before he was amped by the Davoth"s Power Edit: Also, at 7:21 , it's not the fanbase that gave the Champion it's name, it's the game itself.
Doom is that one dude always one-upping you in conversations. Honestly, this game is so stupidly broken in terms of power, I don't think I'll ever understand it.
Yea warhammer 40k/total war, dc, marvel or warcraft factions(if you lowball them) would be more of a fight to doom's verse than like the flood or the borg or dead space or star wars.
I would say even after all of this the Destiny universe could actually survive the doom universe, or at least have the best chance out of any universe (I have only watched a few videos on Destiny so I could be wrong but by the feats I saw, the characters in Destiny have a good chance of going toe to toe with Doom Guy)
If you’re looking for video suggestions, an old project idea that I had was comparing DOOM to other fictional hells There’s a lot of really interesting afterlives out there, so it could make for an interesting part (or several) to this series
Curious cos of how often it was repeated, but we only saw the bfg shoot a hole into mars after it was in the hands of the slayer. Maybe what it was connected to was boosting it in some manner, but ultimately it was fired by the slayer so could it not be argued that he willed it to be strong enough to punch a hole into mars? Samuels/Samur does mention that you could not just punch a hole into mars, is he underestimating the time spent in hell absorbing souls, does he know for certain that the bfg as it was in the humans hands would not be able to shoot a hole into mars? Did the slayer will it to be a stronger impact than would be normal so the ARC would therefore not necessarily be as advanced as we can expect compared to other universes?
Not really, overall, there was special blocade to fire it into a planet. I think if Dommguy did powered it up, he just made it strong but not too strong to achive his purpose
@@DarthNox66 The specific command I assume you mean that prevents it from shooting at Mars itself? I mean even then it does not necessarily mean that it was a planet buster weapon. They could have just added it to prevent accident as they are very close to Mars so in the process of shooting demons maybe it could rotate towards Mars. And yes it can cause damage, cannot dispute that but on its own it does not necessarily mean that it could destroy the planet. Maybe it is similar to nuclear weaponry in that it leaves radiation/fallout at impact? Something detrimental at the least if not fallout, argent energy related maybe. I mean there is no proof either way, it can be argued that it is the slayer boosting it or it is the human's own ingenuity. Difficult to ascertain 100%
I know its for gameplay purposes, but it always annoys me that the slayer needs to power up an atlan mech to shoot a hole in the titans chest to get through it. Same goes for the slayer. Eedomg to use a manned turret to shoot tentacles. In reality he shoold be able to handle all those things with his bare hands with ease. Hopefully the dark ages shows some better feats that align with lore.
You fail to mention that yes, doomguy beat the strongest titan in hell bare handed. HOWEVER that was before he even became even a fraction as poweeful as he had become and before he could absorbe argent energy! He didnt even have his armor till after this feat! I think its a a huge power scale thar really needs to be stressed.
I did say that. I stressed it against Dreadnaught not champion but the point was made. Making the same point for Champion doesn’t matter because we have no feats for Champion. There’s not much to scale. I did say this exact thing for Dreadnaught though.