I'm too old to "villainize" anyone, hence, whether Garam is innocent or guilty is not the main problem here. The main problem is that a group of adults wasn't able, or worse case, couldn't bother (because it wasn't profitable anymore), to explain what actually happened and clear up this whole situation. If Garam is guilty, she is still young, and she will have the chance to grow up and mature. If Garam is innocent, however, the adults, kpop fans and damn netizens just gloriously ruined a young person's future, potential and possible career in entertainment. That's all that matters.
The girl should be applauded for standing up for her friend . What they have done to her is extremely vile, I saw some stans pairing her up with old man . Tbh i’m not even a fan of the group, but it only takes basic human decency to not sexualise a minor on the internet .
and what consequence pulled out at last she's leaving the grp now what more injustice can be happend to her and the most irritating thing is to me that all sort of people are like celebrating her departure even non fans who might haven’t even heard anything abt her before are celebrating jumping to a conclusion on some so-called proofs & stupid allegegations
@@ryujin2650 yeah what more can we do here on this only people's hatred brought her at this extent whatever Let's just hope for her betterment in future🙂
What Eunseo did: took and released nudes of a minor What Garam did: cursed at her (there was no mention of physical violence even from eunseo's law firm) What Eunseo received: level 8 punishment but she changed school before action could be taken What Garam received: level 5 punishment which is the most common at their school But now look, who's the being called the victim and who's being called the bully. Who's gaining sympathy and who's receiving hate and online bullying from millions of people. It's sad tbh. People so easily target the accused one. The even sadder thing is that they will believe everything and anything said by the 'victim' and random online posts but they will never believe what Hybe is saying. They'll continue to convince themselves that Garam is a villain. You know why? Cuz people LOVE drama. I hope Garam can recover the trauma she faced over the months. I'm not even her or her group's fan but it kills me to see hate comments (most of them are filled with misinformation) against a minor everyday on the internet.
Garam in fact received a level 5 punishment and eunsoo received level 8 WHY ISNT ANYONE TALKING ABT HER LEVEL 8 PUNISHMENT AND COMPLAINING ON HOW GARAM GOT LEVEL 5 IT MAKES NO SENSE
@@ICYHope Because Eunseo allegedly attempted su*side, which makes people automatically assume she's an innocent baby deer that needs to be protected and can do no wrong. It's not like lots of criminals attempted to do the same thing in their prison cells.
@@ICYHope She never got the punishment.... But the good thing is, Garam isn't afraid of being punished because she knew she did the right wrong thing (the cuss is wrong but for right purpose) than Eunseo who avoided punishment because she was scared that she did something wrong.
This is literally a case where if everyone had just shut up it wouldn't have gotten this bad. The law firm itself stated the reason Eunseo tried to commit s*icide was because of all the hate and bullying she received online. So... people just decided to send all the hate and bullying to Garam instead. Also, I think the reason why people don't see Garam as the "hero" and Eunseo as the "bad guy" like in those comparisons is because they just completely disregard what came before it. They automatically assume Eunseo as a victim and as such Garam is the bad guy so that it makes THEM the good guy instead, the heroes who are attacking the "bad guy" online
The problem is there are no heros or bad guys in this situation...it was a bunch of school drama that got out of hand cause no one reported it to a teacher.
Another fabrication by the pathological liar and disseminator of fake evidence Eunsoo. She concocted the deception of suicide from the Mina playbook to destroy Jimin.
The worst part was that people started associating their past traumas with her case. "I know how it feels cause i was ....." "I also was ....." "it makes me feel sick cause i have ....phobia" like shut the fuck up. It is not your story. No how matter how you were bullied or assaulted, it's still between garam eunsoo and all we can do is come to a conclusion based on facts and proved evidences. People somehow attached their emotions into the case. Another problem was that hybe did all this publically on a 16 year old. This case should've been private in between hybe and daeryun or the alleged victim etc, now a teenager is being bullied all over the world because of unproven statements. Also, can you believe a fucking 12 year old would drink and smoke? Really? It's not america, it's asia we're talking about, you'd be dead if your mom finds out and your mom _will_ find out. Fourth, a company as big as hybe would not go all the way to protect a bully, they have to maintain a good image, but they still defended garam with all their might (which eventually took a wrong turn). This just shows she wasn't as big of a bully, just a middle schooler who curses a lot. Hybe should've let her stay in hiatus and bring her back for the second comeback, but I'm understanding that hybe also can't go against millions of twitter fuckers who think they're the only special people in this world. This situation shouldn't have been public in the first place. I hope garam finds peace and takes care of herself after this. Imagine being an idol for just 17 days, as a minor, and getting snatched away from your dreams just bc of unproven rumors. We should've been neutral from the first place, poor garam.
@@misakiclxud8960 right! I'm 12 and I can't imagine getting cancelled for something I did at 10, simply because as teens/kids, our brains are still developing. Being a bully at 12 doesn't mean you will be a terrible person at 24
@@shinobuily yea they can change and she was just 12 and all she did was protect a friend she did literally nothing wrong people are so cruel they also hate a person for protecting someone from getting sexualized or harrased
It’s also pretty fucked up to take away someone’s right to defend themselves by proclaiming her guilty on twt , twt isn’t a court of law neither is a school violence committee . Stans have causally skipped over the fact that the alleged victim is a CONFIRMED insitigator, they didn’t even give it the benefit of the doubt . They have stripped a 16 year old girl’s basic human right to “ innocent until proven guilty” , not to mention stan twt is performative as fuck for believing an alleged victim of bullying but not believing a confirmed victim of child p*rn
Companies are going to always side with public opinion FYI if you didn’t know the public are the consumers of what they’re putting out so if nobody’s going to consume what they’re putting out they’re not going to make money so no matter how right or wrong they are that’s what’s gonna be the case that’s just how capitalism is
Garam is not guilty....as no criminal acts occurred at the school when Garam was 12! The police were never involved!!! The only criminal acts occurred years later when "the girl" with the help of netizens began to slander a 16 year old girl!.
So let’s talk about this alleged victim’s actions 1)took nak*d pictures of a CHILD and spread them on social media 2) threatened Garam and her friends with her male friends ( physical violence ) 3) a bul1y how tf do y’all not see that 😭
The thing about this alleged actions is that there is no evidence this all happened, no written record, this all came from hybe's statement with no proof unlike the the alleged victim where even Korea's ministry of education confirmed there is evidence that garam received punishment. And I think this is where hybe made a huge mistake in handling this whole situation. They chose to blame the alleged victim, which irked knetziens and even their employees. They should have just taken legal action and released a generic statement to deny everything that garam allegedly did like what other companies have done in the same situation. I believe they put Garam into all of this, and failed her. They should have done a background check before even trying to debut her. I'm not saying she is a bully, but she does have a record no matter what, and that record should have prevent all of this from happening.
I just wish a minor wouldn't receive so much online harassment for something that hasn't been proven. It is genuinely irrelevant to me if she was a bully at this point because I'm just flabbergasted at the enjoyment stan twitter gets by tearing a young girl down. The harassment she's received by people saying just the most vile shit, the baseless accusations, it's just a level of abuse no one should ever receive, not even a bully, but especially, not a minor. Anyways, great video.
They do not ever take their time and to research and they never stay neutral, all they do is just harass a minor when all that drama came out during her debut and that ruined her reputation
I totally understand the online harassment part, but I don’t understand why the minor thing is significant? Considering everyone involved (other than hybe) are minors (alleged victim-minor, kpop twt stans-largely minors, garam-minor). Am I missing something?
@@flooryan8332 yeah, a bunch of adults bullying a minor over bullying allegations is awful. Adults shouldn’t bully minors. I don’t understand how you don’t understand that
I also think that people do believe that Garam is guilty is because unlike other idols who are accused of being bullies at the highest point of their careers,she was accused the moment she was revealed as a member of hybe's new group.
I think that's still a high point because 1. She's a member of first girl group from hybe everyone knew it was gonna be big so it's still a high point to some extent and we're talking about highschoolers afterall, since she graduated middle school and was studying in SOPA currently isn't that still a good enough opportunity? As someone who just graduated I can see these kind of thoughts going around among many my age
other idols already hv their own fans (ex "no way he is like that, don't u watch his attitude in this show? he is a good boy #idolname_bestboy") while garam have none of that.
I love how no one learned from the Woojin and G-Idle situation and chose to hunt Garam like heartless fools. I was hurt deeply, being 15 years old and watching GROWN ADULTS destroy someone else's life. I'm not disappointed anymore. Just hurt.
I've always stayed neutral on this whole situation. i never hated on her on insulted her, nor did i ever say she's innocent or given my complete support. the whole SA rumour with Woojin just shows that 'always believe the victim' isn't the right thing. whether she's a bully or not, y'all going off on a kid, is ALSO bullying. i will stay neutral until everythings proven 100%. people are sick.
@@SAYSOMETHlNG Does it matter? It's not like is going to renew her contract and add her back in the group. You have to remember that the fans who wanted her out of the group don't even care whether she's innocent or not.
@@orion5445 it does matter, because her reputation is ruined. Her face is all over the news and internet. She probably can't even go back to school without getting harassed and bullied or get a job. Also the emotional things that come with this situation. Garam is like 15/16. That's just sad.
Well shit. I didn't realize that there was an issue of sexual harassment in this, and that Garam's family isn't very well-off economically. Considering the society of the country involved, it makes sense that Garam might actually be innocent. People who are victims or witnesses of sexual harassment tend to be ignored or even shut up in those cases, especially if they don't have a lot of money. She's also still a minor. She ended up being kicked out of the group by the company, but I honestly don't know if that proves anything about Garam, because Hyuna was kicked out of her company, Soojin was kicked out of her group, Jessica was kicked out o fher group and company, and all of them were accused of doing "bad" things in their group and company when in reality, they didn't do anything wrong. Hyuna just dated someone, Soojin didn't do anything but exist, and Jessica wanted to start her own fashion company. If Garam is a similar case, then we're just further proving that money and rumors will continue to run the industry.
The minute a sexual harassment case comes, it’s basic human decency to sit back and rethink, to atleast CONSIDER the possibility that this could have happened ( the fact that it is written in an official record ) just shows most of stans are willing to justify the actions of the alleged victim
I don’t understand how “fans” can hate on her so much when a rumor comes out. You never know if said “victim” is telling the truth or is just trying to make her image bad. I don’t Stan that group but it kind of hurts me because she’s kicked out now. There’s nothing that can be done anymore. I heard she’s only 15 so sending hate a death threats will really effect her in the future. If she end up taking her life or attempting to all fans will feel bad about what they’ve said and done to her to make her go that low. Fans are fake. Y’all switch up so quickly it’s sad. If she is proven innocent then all fans who bullied a MINOR will feel bad and look stupid. Garam will never be the same. The group will never be the same. Everything will just change all because of a rumor.
It hurts how unfair all of this is. Everyone always says “believe the victim” ignoring the fact that there is a chance that Garam and her friend are the victim, and using that to bully Garam. Believe the victim should mean support the alleged victim until the are either proven right or false, not to harass the alleged perpetrator who you can’t even be sure is really the perpetrator
with the way stan twitter is treating the recent news, I might drop kpop as a whole 😒 kpop twitter behavior has become so disgusting in the last few years
I suggest that you try leaving stan twitter or not interact with your stan twt acc anymore and just solely focus on the music. I did this and it worked well for me. But then again, it's your choice if you want to leave kpop or not.
Kim garam, what she did was actually a good thing. Protecting your friend from a society that would exploit a young girl’s nakedness at a moment’s chance is heroism. She is a hero. Yet people hit her with all these fake allegations of physically hurting someone, mentions IVE when it isn’t true.
@taroxxx If you want me to answer your question, ask it. Nothing I said wasn’t true, you just want to slander a twelve year old for cursing once to protect her friend.
@taroxxx watch everglow up’s video about Kim garam. This is so embarrassing for you I bet you’ll Stan her later and claim you never hated her. wrong side of history my friend
@taroxxx eunseo did molka though? daeryun law firm has supported people who have committed SA. garam has also never got a restraining order. im not buying what eunseo is saying cause half of it didn't make sense.
Yeah I was shocked too because that “alleged” picture of her writing “Lesserafim up Ive down” was supposedly taken in 2018.. before Iz*one even debut. How would that make sense unless she could time travel??
I have to say that Hybe did more than what most agencies would do for their Artists considering the circumstances and the fact that this is a fairly new Artist under contract. Unfortunately, history repeats itself when it comes to any sort of scandal involving a Kpop idol whether it’s true or not. It’s always going to end up badly for the accused. In this case, they had no choice but to cut Kim Garam off the group if only to save the rest of the members own reputations. You’re talking about millions of dollars invested in debuting a group and making sure they survive amidst all the competition. It’s such a shame really.
@@bangwool4evr200 hybe did nothing .they are a piece of junk.even sm and jyp can handel this situation better.they could have atleast released clear statement ,why garam contract was terminated .what happened with the court situation .they only made garam more vulnerable .they could have released evidence of eunsoo getting level 8 punishment ,there was many thing they could have done.
source music is to blame really they handle everything so messily even from the gfriend era. apart from this garam issue, umji from gfriend was bullied to extent her name was tagged with "ugly" on the internet by knetz yet source music did nothing about it.
k-pop Stans are so performative it really baffles me. The amount of hate posts garam gets on TikTok is so ugly. I've always stayed neutral during her case due to the fact that past situations such as soojin and woojin were caught up in similar scandals and both received heavy criticism AND THEY WERE BOTH INNOCENT.The Kpop community never seem to learn from past mistakes. Either way if garam is proven innocent, Kpop Stans will just justify their online bullying someway and somehow. They jumped on the hate train because she's young and pretty, a perfect target for most Kpop Stans.
Recently, k-tuber everglow-up posted pictures of Garam's desk when she was in middle school. The desks were filled with written nasty insults such as calling her stupid and saying she was ugly. If this does not convince you that Garam was the victim, I do not know what will.
Imagine she’s actually proven innocent and people tormented her and ruined her image. She’s still a minor now whenever she goes they’ll see her and probably not accept her. I never knew much about this situation but it should of be handled differently.
Just to point out the term school violence does not mean physical violence occurred . Even in hybe’s statement when they refer to the school violence that garam faced in her middle school, they did not mention anything related to physical violence . More importantly the only thing that is confirmed is that the alleged victim clicked nak*d pictures of garam’s friend and distributed them on social media . She was punished with school transfer, this incident is confirmed in the SVC report . The lawfirm daeryun who had cornered hybe into apologising made a threat they would release the report but to this day, they still haven’t . They did not deny even ONE claim made by hybe esp the one where their client is a molka perpetrator .
I hate misinformation. You guys really have no idea how many stupid people toxically breathing in this world; throwing hate over something they don’t know anything about. 🙄 Lastly, _jealousy kills_ 💅🏻
and at this point, im willing to call it DISinformation, because these people are taking the objective facts given as evidence, and intentionally twisting them to fit their agenda and paint her as a villain. its actually sickening
It's sad that they terminated her contract but I think it's also better for her mental health, I really hope that there's someone beside her everytime because she's so young and the amount of hate and death threats that she's getting is too much. I really wish she won't harm herself.
UPDATE: Garam has enrolled in one of the most prestigious high school for entertainer, School of Performance and Art Seoul (SOPA) in acting deparment. She's well received by her classmates and got popular because of acting talent and her visual, :) Wishing her well on her journey.
My bullies in middle school bullied me and afterwards said I bullied them, so I can relate somehow to Garam if she is innocent. They made up stories or provoked me cause I was a straight A student, and they wanted to ruin my image (they were so envious), maybe that’s what they want from Garam
i dont care if garam is guilty or innocent. what I do care about, however, is the fact that netizens harassed and exposed a 16 year old girl, someone who is not even a legal adult. She graduated from middle school only a couple years ago, meaning she hasn't had a lot of time to think about her actions, ESPECIALLY because of her debut and everything going on. She has a chance to ask for forgiveness and mature. A lot of people do stupid things as young people.
This is why you must stay neutral, no matter how convincing one side may seem. WAIT until there is proof and official statements from trustworthy sources, not twitter or tiktok fans.
People have the truth shoved right in their face and still decide to believe a twisted story with a false narrative, which is probably why hybe decided to terminate the contract. People didn't want an explanation or conclusion they just wanted drama to make this little girl their punching bag, even when it means ignoring the true story. Even the alleged victim claimed they attempted over people cyberbullying her, per her own words, yet people who don't care about she said and changed her words to say she attempted because of garam, it's sickening.
I just finished and I totally agree with all the points you made, especially that we should all just shut up about since we don't really know what happened and probably never will
so... cases where bullies b3at up their classmates (the glory *cough*) or even ended up taking someone's life, they still have normal lives meanwhile kpop idols who are INNOCENT have their career ended because of some bs fake accuses. Gosh, the unfairness is horrible.
Omg trueee...have you heard that one bulling case that the glory was based from, the curling iron one? That was what the knetz should be raging about, that one was horrible those kids should face trial as adults and korea should change their law. Instead of bullying someone for mere rumors just because its about a famous company's idol. Every rival company or group's fans are like waiting for the tiniest scandal to attack that famous company is very rampant these days i can totally see them. I wish they exert the same efforts to expose pedos and literal violence/crime in their country.
Here to spread the message. @ John Jackson for credit Garam is declared innocent of bullying and violence in the official school disciplinary report; therefore, she should have stayed in Le Sserafim. Garam defended a friend verbally who pleaded for help when Eunsoo took hidden photos of Garam's friend in her underwear and hacked a facebook account to post them online under another name to incriminate an innocent student. Eunsoo's rich father used his influence to push through a disciplinary committee that was biased against Garam. Yet, the level 5 offense that Garam received for defending her friend with a cuss word or two carried 0 severity points for violence and was the most common one given at her school, while Eunsoo's very rare level 8 offense carried 16-20 points in severity of violence which was beyond suspension. Yet, the rich father used his influence to get Eunsoo to transfer schools before the punishment could be implemented and jealous Eunsoo bullied Garam at the new school by getting boys in online chat rooms to threaten violence against her and keep inviting her so she couldn't leave the chats. Garam also had insults and obscenities written on her desk at school. Eunsoo's intense jealousy of Garam debuting in her favorite kpop company was one of the primary driving forces for the lies and corruption to drive Garam out, but another pivotal reason the powers in kpop and South Korea were so rabid in going after Garam is that she stood up to the rich elite's perverted "right" to post child porn online, use blackmail to control girls' lives, and incriminate others by stealing their identity to post it so they don't get caught. In their demented minds, this is what they call a perpetrator of crimes. As a result, Eunsoo's rich father purchased a dirty law firm to file a fraudulent lawsuit with the ulterior motive of destroying Garam's career since it coincided with Garam's debut in Le Sserafim and had nothing to do with the stated intent which was accusing Garam of bullying, since the school incident happened four years before and was caused by the violent actions of sexual harassment and theft of a facebook account by Eunsoo. According to the Korean Broadcasting System (KBS), Garam was by far the hardest hit target by Kakao Organization affiliated with Starship with 336 slanderous articles written to destroy her reputation. Kakao is currently under investigation by the FTC for reverse viral marketing. Kakao falsely claimed that Garam was an ex Starship trainee who was removed for bullying other members which was a lie. Furthermore, Kakao is responsible for the slanderous picture and article claiming that Garam had written down with Ive and other famous kpop groups on a blackboard, even though Garam is not seen in the picture and even though she hadn't attended that school since 2018 which was long before the group IVE even formed. Finally, they are responsible for lies about Garam bullying other Le Sserafim members. it is obvious that there was a coordinated conspiracy to cancel Garam, especially with the fake evidence and fabricated photos spread all over the internet by the fake victim, Eunsoo, her rich father's purchase of a dirty law firm to file a fraudulent lawsuit with the ulterior motive of destroying Garam's career, and Kakao's viral flooding of the internet with negative and slanderous articles against Garam who was innocent of the false allegations. While Hybe appeared to defend Garam in a superficial sense by putting out an official statement that recounted Garam's version of the story, it was done in an impersonal way with statements like According to Garam. Furthermore, it was issued too late, since it also announced that she was being placed on hiatus. However, the real incompetence and undermining by Hybe came from their refusal to let Garam make the public statement she requested in mid-April and their refusal to let her release the official school disciplinary report which she also had available in mid-April. Even worse, Hybe's complete betrayed of Garam came when they refused to release this critical information even after Eunsoo's side released a cropped and marked on part of the school disciplinary document which only indicated Garam's offense. Furthermore, they didn't release the testimonies of the many students that supported Garam's innocence. Hybe also never filed lawsuits for libel or slander against all the false information and incriminating faked photos posted by the fake victim (real bully) or against the death or sexual assault threats that were posted online which badly damaged Garam's reputation and traumatized her psychologically, especially since she rarely left her dorm room during the time of her hiatus because of anxiety and depression. This downcast condition and isolation persisted for an extended period even after Garam left Hybe and went home. This cyber witch hunt fueled with malicious lies didn't give Garam's side of the story which would have been based, if it had been allowed to take place, on official school evidence, direct testimony and the emotional resonance of Garam's personal appeal. The effect was to create great hype at the moment of debut but to destroy the mental health of Garam who was falsely accused and served as the scapegoat for the group. There is even a haunting scene in an ad in which Garam falls really hard on a car which suggests that she is Hybe's fallen sixth angel, since Le Sseragim means six angels. Then after a long hiatus and a period of silence, Hybe dumped Garam with no attempt made to clear her name, even though they had all the evidence to do so and even though they had used the excuse of an upcoming trial against Eunsoo as the reason not to reveal the evidence to exonerate Garam. The defender against sexual exploitation, Garam, was severely punished and Eunsoo, the sexual offender of Garam's friend and facebook hacker was rewarded. Therefore after Garam's unjust cancellation and while sunk in the depths of depression, it was left up to Garam with the help of her faithful friend Yudimi to muster up the strength to clear her name by releasing the official school disciplinary report and Garam's explanatory statement in August, in which Garam refuted many of the falsehoods by saying she never drank or smoked, never bullied or ordered anyone around, never transferred schools and never used violence. She also had the honesty to admit that she would have handled the defense of her friend a bit differently now that she had the perspective of more maturity but was adamant that in principle she had done the right thing because her parents had taught her the importance of defending a friend in a time of adversity. But honestly, Garam's actions seem really honorable and reasonable considering the severity of the offense: yelling and saying a couple of cuss words at Eunsoo for posting half nude photos of her friend as a profile pic online and hacking a facebook account to incriminate another student. Better yet, I thought of Garam's actions as a wise lesson posed as a question: If every member of a group and its fandom had the guts to defend a targeted member the way Garam defended her friend against a powerful and perverted enemy like Eunsoo, wouldn't all these unjust bullying cancellations like of Jimin, Soojin and Garam come to an end? In Garam's closing address in her letter, she thanked her fans with a harbinger of hope, GaramDream. And the strength of Garam's and Yudimi's efforts freed from Hybe's draconian restrictions turned the tide of public opinion in Garam's favor. Presently, there are some hopeful signs such as Garam giving thanks to her fans on her birthday for her video banner in Seoul on November 16, and 6 days later the first beautiful photos of Garam in her yellow school uniform appeared on twitter. My hope is that if Garam wishes to return to music that she will go into jpop in Japan, as I think it would be safer and give her far more freedom of expression and action. Garam is also quite popular there, comments are more positive for her there than in South Korea, there are far fewer risks, and Japanese songs are longer with storylines that include acting in the videos, which is a great fit since she is currently studying acting at the School of Performing Arts. Plus, the big money influences and propaganda and cancellation campaigns waged against her in kpop will have far less influence in Japan and she will have better protection in Japan from the depravity of lies, misogyny, jealousy and hypocrisy. However, I will support her in whatever she decides to do especially if it is kpop or kdrama because she will need a lot more protection then. Garam is one of my very favorites because of her great beauty and charisma on stage and her fabulous singing, dancing, and her strong integrity of character at such a young age. Her soothing sweet vocals with a touch of sassiness in Blue Flame and Sour Grapes are like a delightful dream and her beautiful ferocity in Fearless is captivating. Her heartbreaking story and efforts to rise again from great persecution are a true inspiration and remind me of an epic movie, so it is certainly no coincidence that she is studying to be an actress. I just wish her the best of success, happiness with love and trust from family and friends, and warmth and understanding from all over the world.
This whole Garam thing was terrible. Literally no one learned a damn thing from the whole AOA Mina vs. Jimin situation. I’ll never understand why people take sides in situations they were not a part of, they were not witness to nor have all the information.
You're so real for this. I'm sure we'll have a new bullying scandal in the next 2-3 years, but since people never learn, they will quickly pick sides and they'll ruin someone's life for false claims
Shes 16 years old and most of that took place when she was around 12 and her dreams got crushed from a rumor. Shes still learning and didnt deserve to be cyberbuilled ironically because of bullying and she should be back in the group.
NOT MY COMMENT JUST WANNA SPREAD TO ATLEAST PUT SOME JUSTICE TO GARAM For those not caught up on the Garam case: This case was resolved 11 months ago when Garam released the full School Violence Committee Document (Eunseo, the "victim", had previously shown the public only the first 3 lines of the document). Turns out the person who called themselves the "victim" (we call her Eunseo) and said she got bullied by Garam was actually Garam's friend in middle school, but they decided to stop being friends because Eunseo kept talking behind all of her friend's backs. Eunseo was salty she lost all of her friends and decided to hack into an ex-friends Facebook account (to make it look like it wasn't her who did this) and post pictures of another ex-friend (12 y/ o at the time) where they were only wearing their underwear. This was very traumatic for the girl whose pictures were posted because she still had to attend school after students saw her half naked so she called Garam and asked for help. Garam tried to reach Eunseo,but she wouldn't pick up so frustrated Garam cursed a couple of times over text and when they eventually met up Garam coursed and yelled at Eunseo some more and asked her to delete the photo and apologize. Eunseo later went to the schools violence committee and asked them to punish Garam for the cursing over text and Garam got the Iv15 punishment (most common punishment in her school). It was never bullying, because before that incident they were literally friends. Oh yeah and also, to avoid punishment, Eunseo transferred schools and then continued to spread rumours about Garam in the new school. So yeah, Garam's career got ruined by a jealous person and a former (fake) friend who couldn't stand to see Garam achieve her dreams. If you wanna read the SVC document, here's the link: twitter.com/oncemimosa /status/1557479971052048384?t= Ax61xNOSisxuGWDa4F9NsA&s=19 Also this document is helpful if you wanna read more about the case: docs.google.com/document /d/108cJs2GeHfWbn919 -yzMEYvkXMJA3UExd7aH67skXaY/edit?usp= drivesdk Edit: There has also been a website made to make it easier to access all the information on the case. sites.google.com/view/garam -scandal/home
Why is everyone sorry now when she's kicked out. Where were you all when she needed you the most? Why did no one besides a hand full of sensible people defend her??? I am so embarrassed to be apart of the kpop fanbase I feel like dropping it as a whole now.
@@adaezeonumonu They got what they wanted but they're still greedy like maggots swarming a carcass. I feel deep regret for every stanning kpop it's all going to hell I hate this fanbase all I can do now is stay far away and only pay attention to the artist. Everyone should be ashamed of themselves for ruining a 16 year old's life because they believed baseless rumors and refused to see the situation as a whole.
@@halfroll4078 Poor Garam... it hurts me to see the other members laughing and smiling like she wasn't even there... i don't know how they feel but it's like she never even existed.. the happiness they show seems too genuine it doesn't look like a group that just lost a member... I'm happy they are doing okay but that just hit different .i could never
I had a lot of fights with my own friend where she was basically manipulating me and this is definitely a fight between two friends. Also the fact that no one is talking about that fact that the 'victim' took a picture of a girl while changing and then released it.
I can't believe someone was able to lose their career over some fake evidence. First, the high school girl is not Garam bc Garam now looks the same as in her childhood photos, but looks like a different person in school. 2nd they lied to us a bunch of times, for example, here's one proof that they lied: (But there is much more) The bullying took place in 2018, and there is a pic where Garam says IVE DOWN LE SSERAFIM UP, but jeez IVE didn't exist lmao Believe what you wanna believe
Honestly I feel like Eunseo is Kinda of Over-Sensitive to understand. The fact that Garam cussed her out over Her exposed friend was just, Surprising. And now Yoo is calling Garam A bully over it? And making these Laws and Allegations over it is making her a Bully?!?
When Garam will comeback, we should all applause her for standing up for her frnd. At the age of only 13, she took a heroic movement even though it could risk her life.
yeah no what definitely ruined her career was her past. clearly hybe didn't have the evidence to prove her innocence, so they let her go. it's that simple
@@kennedy3682 Not at all. The fact of the matter is that everyone is stupid when they're just a kid. Besides, there's literally no proven argument that anyone can use to say Garam did anything bad, so she has the right to being innocent until proven otherwise.
@@kennedy3682 so she deserves her career ruined because she swore at someone when she was 12? They did have the evidence but stans didn't want to listen, they want to please the fans so they kicked her
@@shinobuily please get real for a second, a corporation worth billions has the evidence needed to protect their artist when needed and at first they actually did, but clearly the cons outweighed the pros of keeping her
A tough school life,pursuing an idol career to run away from those bullies,but being bullied by half the internet over false accusations.All at the mere age of sixteen years old.my poor baby
And...Garam was innocent. Hope y'all had fun harassing a 16 year old girl and ruining her career. I hope the 5 seconds of fame and content you got from it was worth it.
I was appalled by how everyone reacted to this towards a minor nonetheless. Garam, hope you are okay and staying strong. You didn’t deserve none of this. PLS DO AN UPDATE BTW 😢
Alot of people are saying that now that Garam is gone Eunchae gets more lines Are people forgetting there are 4 other members? What's stopping them from taking lines from the other 4 and giving it to Eunchae? Why does it necessarily have to be Garam's? Garam is blocking Eunchae,Eunchae can shine now that Garam is gone wth please? THERE ARE 4 OTHER MEMBERS!!!! Because of your hate for Garam people aren't reasoning anymore. Why are people acting like Garam intentionally wanted that part? I love Eunchae she is adorable but the hate Garam is receiving is disgusting You'll are grown ass girls,boys,men and women what makes you think cyberbullying her and hating her is cool? it just makes you look petty. OT5 OT5 lol it's okay we know you stan OT5 now grow up and deal with this in a mature way. That's just my opinion bunch of y'all are acting like babies.it's childish God!!
welp she’s officially out ): le sserafim is built around six members , the angel seraphim has six wings . i wish nothing but success for the 5 girls though.
doas twitter even realise at 2018 garam was 13 years old??? should you end a person's proffessional career because of what person did or say at 13 years old??? "a bully shouldn't be famous making money" the "bully" in the statement is 13 years old.... literally a child, and now the person receiving cyberbullying assault is STILL A CHILD at 16 years old. And to think that what she did for her to be classified as a "bully" is to fight with person who assaulted her friend and herself?? first of all bullying is a process, it's not a dispute you have with someone at some time, to be so quick to cyberbully a 16 year old child over something they did at 13 years old, but without even knowing what that something is or if it is even true is shocking, I expect more from humans this is embarrassing
Fast forward to tonight and it’s just been announced HYBE has terminated Garam’s contract with them and Le Serrafim will now be promoting as a 5 member group.
@@orion5445how did you tie what I said to Red Velvet??? And how is that poetic??? I could see what you mean if those groups had any relation whatsoever but they don’t. Groups debuting and then a member leaving shortly after is more common than a member joining a group after debut. I fail to see the correlation at all aside from just pointing it out for the sake of.
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Literally just started the video and im already annoyed with the nonsense lol. 2:43 that is obviously a freaking lollipop, and the hand gestures are not sexual at all, literally every kpop idol poses like that. Let's see how this video goes on...
I wish she was still apart of the group. People need to learn to not believe everything they here all the time. Hybe did what they could but the public didn’t want to believe them or Garam. It’s sad she only got to live her dream for less than a month.
REGARDLESS of her innocence or guilt, i hope everyone realizes that they were literally all partaking in bullying as well. this was a 16 year old child, ruthlessly berated by MILLIONS. shame on all of you.
i really pitty the poor girl she was just a child with dreams and she got kicked out after years of hardships for her to debut and had suddenly strangers sending her death threats
I saw a RU-vid video bout Koreans reacting to this case and some comments somewhere that Hype know this all along and they were only planning to debut 5 members group but later added 1 to make a buzz and later kick her out, to kinda boost the popularity of the group. Idk it's really messy.
Justice for garam. She deserves an apology from everyone online that bullied and harassed her without knowing or caring about the truth. She deserves a second chance at her dream. What was done to her was beyond unfair. Its absolutely disgusting. I hope she's alright.
I was extremely sad when hybe and source announced that they had terminated their contract with garam, the fact that she apologized for defending her friend was wrong(and everyone was thinking that she apologized bc she was the bully) Shes just 16 and things are like this are happening to her, i was also upset when i bravely told my friends that garam isnt a bully but they ignored me and started making jokes abt me defending a bully. It also made mad that she (not ony her bit the other idols who get accused with no real proof) was getting hate and everyone was accusing her even tho there werent any real proof, it upsets me how much people can judge her without knowing anyhing, I was glad i stayed neutral when i didnt know anything abt garams situation when i started seeing the proofs that she was innocent thats when i fully got on her side, i feel so bad for her :
The world is evolving backwards, instead of talking about how to stop inflation in some countries we are talking about middle schoolers fighting. Human trafficking and sexual assault in Korea is getting less attention than Garam's case. Humans need to learn prioritize
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She worked so hard probably for years to finally debut and just one person who’s side can’t even be proved just ruined her entire future as an idol and her reputation as well. So so so freaking sad.
Look at this video. There are many videos like this that explain everything so well and debunks all the misinformation. But in the end we still get the undesired result. Thanks to you and many other people for not being afraid to speak the truth and for thinking critically. For not following the crowd but for using their own brains. I can't imagine how she must be feeling rn.
I know Garam is never going to see this but i just want her to know she's pretty and she has amazing vocals. She shouldn't feel like she has no fans cause she has quite a lot. I wish i could have gone to atleast one of their concerts or meet and greets, i would have shouted her name. I can imagine how it feels to be hated in such a level that you start doubting yourself Garam is still a minor the amount of hate she's getting is very traumatic GARAM FIGHTING!!!💖💖💖 I REALLY REALLY LOVE YOU LE SSERAFIM IS NOT THE SAME WITHOUT YOU!!💖💖💖 I love the other five girls but i watched them debut as a six member group it's really painful to see one go. GARAM FIGHTING!!! From you Fan!!💖
