There are quite a few doctors or experts who advocate a LCHF diet, But Ben Bikman , with his research and analysis, vouches for this life-style. Always great to listen to him as well as his interviewer with great questions.
Don’t know if you have interviewed Dr Zach Bush about death. He has a great understanding of death as a doctor engaged intimately with patient deaths. Worth interviewing if you haven’t already. He‘s plant based but that‘s no problem. Dr. Bush is a good human with incredible intelligence around health and environment.
Right: mTOR activation (and eating protein) is not a thing to be eliminated in hopes of living longer. Rather, it is a thing to be occasionally suppressed, by fasting, and other means (rapamycin?) as a repair protocol, providing that you do not, in the long run, lose muscle mass. Cycle mTOR: mostly on, sometimes off, in context of a low insulin AUC (area under curve) lifestyle.
From what i see, all the people trying to reduce mtor (you can see a lot of them on youtube) look very UNHEALTHY. For 2 years i wrote that mtor is critical for brain function and muscle muscle and both brain function and muscle mass is key for lingevity so it doesnt make sense to reduce mtor cronically...but people are blind on david sinclair.
From previous interviews he recommends 1 gram of protein per pound of IDEAL body weight. So if you should weigh 150 lbs. then around 150 grams per day. I’m a small female. If I eat one thick rib-eye, I’ve met my requirements. he will recommend a protein shake that also has healthy fats. Because for some people, it might be hard to get those high levels in 3 meals. He also recommends people try to use fat for energy. Some carbs if necessary but not from a box or barcode.
The strength of our stomach acid supports the argument that we are supposed to eat meat. We have more acid than rabbits and deer, for instance, but less than dogs.
I'm trying to reverse insulin resistance (plus a lot of other things) on a carnivore diet. Problem is that I'm running on stresshormones for months and months and months bcs I can't seem to fat adapt. (Zero carb carnivore now btw.) I'm about to crack from the constantly racing heart and sleep deprivation. I did it for 9 months last time before I had to give in. This time I'm about 3 months in (5 low carb) and I feel like I'm about to die bcs the body just keeps on running on stresshormones and I have chest pain every day plus intracranial pressure, tingling in hands and feet and so on. I have tweaked like crazy with electrolytes and supplements plus the food ofc. My body can't take this much longer but I don't want to go back to carbs, bcs I have insulin resistance, SIBO, fibromyalgia and so on. I have an oxalate toxicity issue and Sally K Norton says that the mitochondria are effected by that, so probably that's the reason why I can't seem to fat adapt. I'm probably going to dump oxalic acids for years...How the heck can I resolve this?😩
Add tiny bit of honey after evening meal - lighten level of ketosis SO YOU CAN SLEEP!! Another words, talk to a qualified nutritionist how to bring in the least amount of carbs necessary to get your sleep.
Scientific research shows people with Me/cfs and fibromyalgia have problems with their bodies using glucose and fats for energy production. Instead they use amino acids. (often from their own muscles). So you can try to take BCAA amino acids and tyrosine and taurine to support your transition to a high fat-protein diet. Do use them apart from proteinrich meals. Hope that helps.
@@conscious_choice Thanks! I used NAC, taurine and Acetyl L Carnitine. Plus electrolytes. AOR B complex, B1. Epsom salt baths. I think they helped somewhat but I crashed completely yesterday. Not exaggerating, it was extremely bad. I had no choice but to reintroduce some carbs. Now heart rate is normal, no chest pain and so on. It's quite remarkable how quickly it turns around. But...then I'm back with all the issues I tried to get rid of in the first place. Oh shoot.🤪 But believe me, it was the ER or some carbs. I was shaking, convulsing, intense chest pain and intracranial pressure, no sleep, tingling hands and feet, couldn't walk, litterally thought I was close to die. Yeah, it's very apparent that I have serious issues with my mitochondria and that I couldn't use fat as fuel. Or maybe I can, but the glucose needed can't be made by my body in sufficient amounts. Bcs it seems like I can use carbs (even if it's not the best fuel) bcs everything feels so much better now. From the symptoms I just described atleast...It's just interesting that I can't adapt even after such a long time. It just gets worse and worse. I think that Sally K Norton is right about that people with severe oxalate issues have so damaged metabolic pathways and mitochondria that they need a bit of carbs. I have come across others with the same problem in the low oxalate groups.
@@cammieklund yes, i think you're right. You might take some d-ribose which helps with the atp production in the mitochondria. You take it together with the carbs, it makes sure your body can directly use it for energy and lowers the glucose so you will not have an insulin problem while you still have the benefits of the glucose you still need. Btw dr Jason Fung said he has some patients who just can't come to ketosis no matter how long or strict they follow the diet . He gives them supplemental ketones. In your case I think you better use some carbs or your body will crash.
Yes, yes ketones are REQUIRED for brain health. I believe the reason humans produce ketones readily is to help fuel our huge brains. Problem is we spend our lives blocking ketosis with a crappy diet.
Veganism originated with various religious groups just look at The Seventh-Day Adventists and their prodginy such as Kellogg and Pritikin. So not sure what to make of this Saint Paul stuff. At lest we forget about the Hindus, Jews and Muslims and the various forms of meat they are allowed and not allowed to eat. Sorry but quoting the Bible makes me have to question a lot of the other opinions that he has, especially those for which there really is little data. And as for the touchy feely view of life and death as celebrations of each, anyone who has spent any time in nature knows that there is life and there is death and there's neither celebration of one or the other. Unfortunately I think this stems from human hubris of thinking that we are somehow something other than and above nature.
I am laughing and at times crying about how good this is! Ben Bikman, a master of explaining complex processes in a humorous and interesting way! Hoooray! :)
Take dogs for example, we feed them high heat processed, high glycemic, 70% plant based commercial processed garbage called dog food that is comparable to human processed fast food. Dogs are getting the same diseases as humans. Diabetes, tooth decay, cancers. Yet the dogs wild cousin the wolf, coyote, fox eating a species specific carnivore diet aren't getting these diseases. There is a correlation we should be paying attention to.
If people replace some kibble with raw hamburger or eggs then the food exponentially is improved. If a person can afford to give even half meat & half kibble, it’s a win win. Dog still gets correct minerals & calcium but gets improved life benefits with “real” food.
@@melissal3383 my fox terrier gets raw pork neck or chicken leg as one meal and a chicken paw snack and it has kept his teeth perfect with zero brushing for is 4 years of life. His other meal is a ground mix of meats, organs, fish, eggs and modest vegs abd berries. I agree if you have a larger dog you can do better one meal commercial and then giving some kind of meat like a chicken leg quarter with bones and skiin intact and or pork neck bone the bones are important for oral health and if they are not cooked they are safe. Commercial food really is high glycemic garbage no matter how much you pay because its all cooked under extreme heat and rendering it like fast food for pets. Hence why it is shelf stable forever. I hate the garbage personally but if you had a number of dogs it could get expensive. My terrier at 22 lbs eats around 8 oz or raw food daily. I took care if a chesapeake that would eat a whole chicken leg quarter and some dry for dinner. It is all i use to feed my pets was the dry crap and they all lived to around 13. I now eat Paleo myself.
@@GregariousAntithesis I do many of the things you do. We have 4. It gets pricey but when one makes the decision to bring a dog home, they become family. So we feed them well. But, I’m human & get tired. I buy top line dog food (Victor or Origen) & toss a few raw eggs in on those nights. Our oldest dog is 12. At 6, eating mostly kibble, he looked old. So he’s been fed lots of raw since. It has REALLY helped him. He used to run around our wooded back lot but has really slowed down. Interestingly, I started to let him come upstairs to the 2nd floor during the day, & just going up & down the carpeted stairs a few times a day, helped him quite a bit. he seems a bit more peppy. He’s a Dutch Shepherd. Others are Malinois. I try not to judge but am shocked that some people don’t see the damage they do by believing the pet food lies. Thankfully, one vet is on board. But the other is skeptical… sigh
@@melissal3383 take you older dog for a walk. I take mine 3 days a week for walk, run interval in a local frizbee golf park around 3 miles 45 minutes. Exercise is as important as diet.
Dr. Ben don’t ever apologize or say you’re being silly for being a believer. I’m a clinician scientist and I also believe. That is not silly at all. Just the way we view the world. Dr. Ben is a freaking stud too! Great interview
I love this guy. Followed nearly al his videos. But as a non theist it stays a very remarkable and interesting combination that scientists question everything, require a high burdon of proof etc.. exept their own religion.
I believe there's definitely a level beyond the one we're currently in but as for the religious dogma associated with it I am not a fan having grown up with it.
Ben, thanks for setting the record straight on mTOR and the need for animal protein. Those advocating eating less protein, such as Sinclair, Gardner, Diamandis, and Barnard, do not look nearly as healthy as you and those who advocate eating animal protein, such as Attia, Naiman, Baker, and Saladino. Have you read Don't Eat For Winter by Cian Foley? He discusses how in the autumn our ancestors ate fruits and nuts to put on belly fat to see them through the winter. Just like milk, nuts contain protein, carbohydrates, and fats. When combined with the insulin spiking sugars in the fruits, 'nature' provided an effective way for our ancestors to make it through another winter, even if the hunting was poor that year.
Human beings have never been vegan, animal protein has always been a very important part of the human diet, chimps eat meat once a month on average, I'm sure they'd eat it more if they could
humans have always eaten what they can - now we have choices. not all primates eat meat - the biggest (silver back gorillas) eat just plants. dont fool yourself - animals eat what they can find.
@@9um9um9um true and over millions of yrs it changes them, homosapiens have always eaten meat, eating cooked food including meat is what made us human, it shrank our teeth, jaw and stomach and provided lots of protein and fat which in combination with tool use made our brains grow, it became a positive cycle, meat fueled brain growth then better tools resulted, and better tools resulted in more food like bone marrow
@@brianbadonde8700 - i feel like your imagining some meet-rich past that doesnt exist - lets not kid ourselves about our ancestors. they died of famine and starvation, were malnutrioned, and had a life expectancy much younger than today. there was no mass meat outlet or access to steady meet until recenlty, Lets be honest, the meet our ancestors ate was far and few - when our ancestors did have meet you would hunt all day and then you must eat it before it rotted. the meet was wild caught and lean - with greater nutritional elements- not like the sickly bloated farm animals injected with B12 and harmones. what really got us to evolve our bodies. id agrue it was the agricultural revolution that fueled civilization. Plants and grains sustained our ancestor's short lives. even though i write this all and im vegan - im very open minded to meet as a concept - i just dont want to be delusional about our past.
@@9um9um9um we spent 99.9 percent of our time on this planet as hunter gatherers its only in the last 12,000 yrs to the best of current knowledge that people began farming and consuming grains in large quantities which have to be cooked by the way, you see we are back to cooked food again, chimps spend 6 hours a day chewing food, hunter gatherers eat meat the clue is in the word, eating cooked food including meat is what made us human it shaped our bodies, there's evidence showing cooked food being consumed by our ancestors going back for at least 1 million yrs possibly as far back as 2 million yrs, and they weren't homosapiens they were homoerectus so even our pre human ancestors were eating cooked food, I suggest you research anthropology this all very basic stuff
@@brianbadonde8700 poorly explained and off point. we can agree that primitive man (like any animal) found food where they could. when primitive man could not find food it died off. we agree that the meat our ancestors ate was not like the meat we eat now. we can agree that starvation was our biggest threat - we can agree that americans are dying of an abundance of processed crappy food. we can agree that to eat like our ancestors we would have to live like them - we dont so we cant - we are forced (not withstanding the person who farms and hunts their own food) to eat like modern humans - with that said the best chances to avoid the metabolic disorders we now suffer from are to eat minimally processed whole foods. your inability to have a main point is an irritation at best.
My problem is when I discuss something I am passionate about like Dr. Bikman is doing in this video, wether it be politics or diet, the stress and excitement from the passion increases by blood sugar!
Insulin is the big elephant in the room. Dropping insulin levels equal Weight Loss. Add Carbs of any kind, weight loss STOPS! DR. BEN'S WORDS OF WISDOM!
Dr Ben u r the warrior David that takes down giants... goliath in your talks ,research n work!! I CHEER U ON GOOD DOCTOR!! Thanks a million...Fully grateful for your voice in this confusing era!
I'm not a doctor and don't claim to be. Isn't keto an adaptive process, since the body is already in a ketogenic state itll selects ketos over carbs by default not prefrence.
I'm trying to understand my 15 year old son's results. His Ac1 is 5.7-6.0 ( in two different labs in a prediabetic range). Fasting insulin is 5.2. fasting glucose is 86. I'm confused, why Ac1 is high but insulin is in healthy range?
Thanks so much fir this sincere and honest talk. I'm a carnivore and used to be a vegetarian to my serious detriment. My health has improved exponentially from stopping ALL carbs. I'm living proof and my experiment of N=1 that you speak the truth and fat filled carnivore is the proper human diet.
I postulate that diesel fumes exposure damages the DNA and shortens telomeres thus causing cellular damage, lifespan and interrupting their function. So it's possible that's one effect of cellular metabolism disruption and function.
I read the book 👍, Rhetorical question, why won't Dr's tell you to get off sugar, Or control carbs? The answer does not reflect well on them. Thanks Doc Bikman.
Hey very good episode! Sorry if I did miss anything but I do have a question...does artificiell sweetners like aspartam triggers insulin release My Mother have diabetes type 1 and sometimes she intake aspartam and she tells me she doesnt have to intake insuline so it shouldnt trigger insulin either for healthy person?, sorry my bad english...thx for any help!:)
and i was a vegetarian, and i started to eat meat :D not a lot, but low carb protocol is a lot easier, when you eat meat, and I live in austria, and here is so hard be a vegetarian low carb. I try eat olny good, grass feed meat, wild meat, this is vey easy here. And I understand, that plants feeling all too... people dont understand it....vegans giving also dont answer, for a lot of things......
I am a carnivore and an admirer of Dr Bikman's work. However, I should like to know the basis in which he says,"A hundred years ago people were not dying of cancer". Brahms died of cancer, as did his father. James Clerk Maxwell died of cancer. These are just examples " off the top of my head". I feel uncomfortable with his statement as it could provide a way of an opponent to discredit his thesis.
Yet he never addresses people like me who have normal pancreas function and on low carb diet still have a fasting glucose of around 105. When i started the low carb diet wearing a cgm, my fasting and average blood glucose was staying in the 70-80s then it slowly started creeping back up to over 100. Makes zero sense and fact is i had to add beets, carrots and beans back to my diet to get my blood glucose to between 88-92. My CRP is below .5
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-MEzAvos1jak.html He addresses it a bit here. I’m carnivore and my fasting bg is always 100. It’s a gluconeogenesis/glucagon thing I think
Why is there no live link to Dr Bikman's website where we can buy that protein drink he was talking about? That's a pretty sketchy omission on your part for him as well as careless regard to those of us who would like to purchase it. Might this be because there is nothing in it for you? Just sayin'...
I’d love to see the research on the red meat consumption rate decreases over the last 100 years. Everything that popped up when I searched was increased consumption.
This is a great interview by Ben Pakulski! A lot of interviews I listened to, I was annoyed by the interviewer’s boosted egos always in the way wanting to sound smart and want to hear themselves over what dr. Bickman is trying to say.. this was different
Are there studies to show that if calories are controlled, there's no difference in fat loss in a high carb diet vs low carb diet? I.e. High vs low insulin response? What about high carb diet vs keto diet both 2k calories, should one lose more fat on the keto diet?
Usually (underlined); if one needs to lose weight one is overweight, and usually (again underlined) someone who is overweight has hyperinsulinemia which means insulin resistance, and can not stick to lowering calorie intake due to their addiction to eating carbs and has difficulty in intermitten fasting (again a very beneficial means for that goal). So when comparing a two people one with high carbs diet and another with low carb diet on a journey of fat loss, we can draw an analogy of two people on a marathon run, one with a weighted vest on and one without, who would have it easier? Carbs is a set back to someone who is already (usually) fat because of it's affects on that persons hormones, as the weighted vest would be a set back on one of the runners as he/she needs speed/ease of run.
Students were asked If they would be invited to a great all you can eat meal, what would they do to have the most hunger at the time of the meal. Answers: restrict calorie intake the previous days. - so, it's much easier to restrict calories in a low carb high fat diet if you want to lose weight, because you will be in 100% fat burning mode and the body easily takes the body fat and is not hungry. Try that on high carb outside a metabolic ward. Also: higher chances of reducing base metabolic rate by accident of high carb calorie restriction. - EDIT: the mentions it at 28:10
Mr. Bikman really lays all his points out very well ... I have to say, how can eating meat be bad? We CAN eat meat today because we DID eat meat for the entire history of mankind.
Incredible conversation. THANK YOU for hosting and also just getting out of the way when BB got wound up. He’s an incredible guest. Not a word wasted. ❤❤
One question, Keto / low carb 3yrs ,recently got a cgm ,the readings high 6.5 to 7.5 (U.K), Will this cause insulin to go up? ,even when fasting the readings are high ,l have a very active job 15000 to 20000 steps a day ...Dr Bikman explains everything clearly here 👍🏻
Always learn a lot from Prof Bikman'd talks but for the record, apostle Paul's 1st letter to Timothy, chapter 4 does not appear to mention or refer in anyway to meat. The nearest thing to what Prof B says (minute 51) is verse 3, "They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth."
Dr. Bikman for me it is soooo interesting, I am learning more and more everyday, from people like you :D Our Body to study it is sooo interesting for me, it is my hobby, thx :D
Beans and other legumes contains both protein and carbohydrates and they are considered good protein source. Should we eat legumes or not? How eating legumes affect insulin/ glucagon ratio?
Dr. Bikman is either the most intelligent person i have listened too or the worlds best charlatan. His knowledge, coupled with his ability to explain it in common terms, has allowed me to absorb so much info
Why specify cigaret smoke? Today many are moving to vaping, wouldn’t researching vaping be more applicable today? Concerned on limitation to today’s reality when only researching smoking.
Beyond Meat have a class libel action against them in Court. Testing revealed only a fraction of the protein was there that they were claiming it contained. Mass refunding soon.
I love listening to Dr Bikman! And loved reading his book, Why We Get Sick! I highly recommend it! His breakfast meal replacements shakes are both tasty and filling! I highly recommend those as well.
