The Truth about my Indian Springfield and how I ruined, then rescued my horsepower and torque. 

Loved this video! Who ever said motorcycles were cheap to operate?? I'm glad you got all of the drama worked out, and now you can go back to loving that Indian ride and power! When I was a younger man, I souped up my motorcycles. Now I'm old and my mantra is, Stock is Good! I just hope that somebody else considering the same path in performance, will watch this video and learn what works and what doesn't. Ride and stay safe down there in FL. land!

Ahh that's a tough battle. Sometimes the best looking parts aren't the best performing. I'll always struggle to balance form vs function! Great video 👍

Not gonna happen here! I’d never take a salad over wings!!! Thanks for the input on the exhausts, alas, I am happy with the factory pipes. They’re quiet enough for everyday use but have a nice rumble when I twist the throttle... Stay happy, Ride safe!

Glad it all worked out my friend

I LOVE this video. I LOVE the VBlog w/ comedic editing.

Great info thanks for the video .

Great video!!!

I’ve done the Stage 1 and 2 on my Harley Electra Glide and never looked back. I have done nothing on my GoldWing GL-1800. Stock all the way baby! I also have the Freedomsheild on my Harley. Best windscreen I have ever used. I DO wish John over at Freedomsheild’s would make one for the GL-1800. That would be the only upgrade I would do on the Honda

Love love love my Vance and Hines. (They were on when I bought it) I HAVE made a big mistake recently though. I should do a rebuttal video.

We added slipons to our Road Glide Limited but that's it so far. Not sure if we will do anything to the motor. More power sounds great but not sure how the Harley motor will handle it.

Amen brother. Tru Duals sound like a great idea, until you install them. I lost power on my Chieftain and RM once I put the Freedoms on. Oh well life lessons learned. LOL.

another very cool story :-)......it confirms, if you try too many things, some has to fail :-).....It seems in terms of exhaust systems I had more luck. Bought with the new Bike in 2016 a Jekill & Hyde valve system. Per push the button I can adjust it from very silent to small earthquake and to heavy thunder stroke. Still love the sound and stage 3 is the next step. Just ordered the Stage one classic high flow chrome filter which I need anyway for the big bore kit. Amazing that you gained 114 Horse Power and 125 ft of tourque (170 Nm) !!! Best regards from Germany, Björn

Glad i just got the 116 in 2020 and did the air cleaner and muffler and that's it. Happy with the power did not get greedy and spend my money on people feeding of people who always want more. I am happy with my Roadmaster plus i added a lot of upgrades when i bought it from floor boards to windshield garage door opener and so on.52 grand Canadian. Glad i never did cams or any of the other crap that screws with the motor and gives you losses instead of gains!

I have the stage 2 cam upgrade with an Arlen Ness HO and TABs with the medium baffles. It came with a set of Zombies that are still in the box. I'm on the fence about swapping them out. Bike is a 2016 Springfield, also have the Dyna module which I haven't used yet. Anyway, the current exhaust set up sounds really good and I'm not sure if I put in the Zombies, if I'll need to retune it.

I guess there are good sides to being cheap. I wanted the true dual system on my ‘16 Springfield but was too cheap, but I’m handy! So I cut the cat out and welded her back up. After a set of used stage 1 pipes, a DIY K&N high flow intake, and a PV3 tune, it runs great with little heat. Now my ‘21 Roadmaster, she will stay completely stock for quite a while, banking on longevity will win out there.

I’m wanting to get 14 inch handle bars were besides the dealer is the best sight to buy?

Thanks for the video I’m wanting to swap to this same exhaust after hearing your comparison video. Is there only one standard muffler that comes with their 2into 1? Sounds great!

Love from DeKalb Mississippi USA 🇺🇸

Wow man I am surprise I though true dual would increase power and torque. Thanks, now I know.

Good video; I've heard your point echo'd by others re: FP True Duals; however, in my my case -- for 2018 RoadMaster 111, with Tier1 Tuner (FP TD header and hi-flo AF), all feels to be as performant or better than stock configuration (definitely cooler and of course - sounds great!). I do question whether this setup conflicts with air-fuel mix in the system when running at high elevations in high heat where lean engine code was thrown but ... the 100+ heat (weather; not engine), isn't good for anything. Cheers!

Listening to your 'Muffler' story has left me almost 'Exhausted', as I feel your pain. Truth be told, I am really 'Baffled' that no one told you ahead of time what was going to happen when you 'quietly' ordered the new stuff expecting improved performance. But then you resorted to 'loudly' expressing your disappointment at expending so much ca$h for naught. ..😪.🤐.. But seriously I rather enjoy hearing about your mods. When I finally land a decent deal on my next bike it'll certainly be an Indian. Probably not one off the showroom floor, but a well maintained used one, low milg., with all records & receipts, & close to home. You know, one driven only on Sundays to church by a little olde lady. WHAT, you say there's no such a thing?! Well I have 2 lined up (2014, 2015) about 50-70 miles from home. I'll let you know when it happens. As for the little olde lady part, that was stretching it a bit. Nice to listen to someone with vids that I can understand for clear speech. thnx. My other hobby, campin' with my AS trailer. Had I thought longer, I might have picked up a toy hauler. So much for planning. That cost me tons more than your muffler experiences. That should make you feel better. ..............from the Silver Conestoga Wagon driver in New England. .....

I love happy endings👍

May I ask what 2:1 system you went with? The bike sounds really good. I had Freedom true duals on my 2016 Vintage. Loved them. I had only the 116 stage 3 OEM tune. In San Antonio TX nobody is really interested in tuning an Indian the right way. I tried tuning and when I shut off the bike, the garage smelled like gas. That was a result of the tune. I have a 2021 Springfield now and I think it needs an exhaust update.

Hey Brian , here's a tip , WEAR SOME GOOD EAR PLUGS!!! NOT ONLY WILL IT QUIET THELOUDPIPES , BUT IT WILL ALSO SAVE YOUR EARS FROME DAMAGE " Hearing Loss " from WIND NOISE!!! I Have Road Burner Double Eagles on my 04 Roadstar , without baffles " stock baffles also sounded worse than factory baffles " and with my 33 decibel ear plugs in she sounds wonderful , and even with the ear plugs in , you can still hear everything around you very well , because of the wind noise reduction . I've been riding for almost 30 years , and have been wearing earplugs for about 25 of them , and my hearing is still very good , well Yan know when I don't have my " Selective Hearing turned on for the wife" 🤣

Spent a lot of time and money putting racing pipes on my XR 1200 and eventually put it back to stock because the noise was hurting my head and I noticed the loss of torque & Power commander & dyno tune Did not help

Keep a pair of spongey earplugs on the bike for your hearing issues. Silicon ones are better but block out too much sound. Gotta be able to hear a thing or two while riding for safety's sake.

I did a cat delete and punched the plug out of the stock pipes. Lost power. Sounds ok and runs a little cooler but miss the power. Haven’t decided how to fix it. Any suggestions.

Which gopro you using? The picture is amazing.

I am doing a little guessing and you can correct me if I’m wrong. When you added the big bore kit I’m assuming you went from 111 to 116 ci. And the torque was 126. That is disappointing. As much as I would like to try an Indian Springfield I keep running into the lack of aftermarket options. I was expecting to here when you went to a 116 your torque was in the low 130’s.

What Brand/Model Number Highway Pegs are those?

What size and brand of handlebars?

Bassani and 2 into 1 is the best.

Is that the pv3 dyno tuner?

So...Freedom mufflers with standard baffles is where it ended up?

I need pipes on my Vespa.

Now I think I’m going to leave my super chief stock.

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The only thing I've done to my Springfield was DE-CAT and add a stereo system. The bike was awesome from the factory. I don't know why poeple buy these awesome, beautiful bikes then change them. I had mine at 100mph almost immediately after I got it and guessed that was FAST ENOUGH... I love my 16 Springfield!

I buy bikes with horsepower from the factory. Less weight is the most bang for the buck. Both Indian and Harley need more carbon fiber and aluminum. Cheaper to place larger motors vs cutting off weight.

Where in Florida do you live?

You should have stopped to get some cheese for that wine.

I've heard quite a few horror stories on indian, and hd 2

Modifying a motorcycle is pretty much an endless money drain. 😂 That said I very happy with Indian stage ones. Sound good without being stupid loud

I use my 2017 Springfield for long distance touring often 2 up often on narrow windy roads. The only modifications are an oil cooler, heated grips and touring seat and top box (trunk set up) all factory 2 tone and Garmin GPS. It's a great bike with good acceleration and handling especially 2 up where it is far superior to even my BMW R1200R. For me however modifying the engine for greater pure performance is pointless. It is great to ride as it is. But it's no sports bike and never will be. My BMW in terms of performance and the handling to cope with the performance will always kill any Indian. Because it's mass is so much less and handling so much better. But guess which bike I ride. The Indian. Because it is such a lovely bike to ride. I love both bikes and so sadly I won't be selling either ever...

Big bore...cams...need a 2 into 1 header pipe...

I had to rewind the screaming goat.

Sell me your Springfield!!! :-)

You Americans, you are TOO obsessed with HP and getting that "biggest" and "longest" etc. on your futile attempt to outsmart one of the smartest engineering teams out there, who are doing it professionally to create such FINE piece of machinery that is Indian! This is a pipe dream boys and girls! The best machine, also most appreciating in its value after years gone by, is a FACTORY ORIGINAL! Rather enjoy the ride and let the machine do what it is designed to do - to get you there... Coming from one, who has been riding for 47 years and started up from 15cc...

Disagree, did the big bore first than true dual, I'm very satisfied.

Salad instead of chicken wings...blasphemy!

Sturgis Indian had (still has?) their own brand of straight pipes, just sayin’…. Lol

Sounds like you just made some bad choices, bud. Experimenting costs money. Nothing I have ever read, not one, says 2 pipes give you more performance than a 2-1.

Motorcycles are a lot like “Pandora’s Box” and women 😂😂😂 (no offense Mrs. Barb) Life is way more fun with them than without 😜👍

Dude come on, you buy a new bike as sweet as that and when you get it home you now how can I fuck it spend a heap of cash doing it. Why?? Streamers on the handlebars would have been it.

My unprofessional opinion says this guy is an anal retentive overthinker? I bought a used 2016 Springfield a couple years ago. l gutted the cat the first week I owned it and have just ridden it ever since. What's with all the needing to change things constantly supposedly trying to improve it?