Hobbyking company itself is not doing well. They lost some sales due to bad customer service and overly expensive shipping cost. Orange DSM2 is unreliable but dsmx one is pretty good
Good to know video. I have noticed this but stupidly blown it off only to have lost planes in a giant Marsh that surrounds or airfield. Thanks I won't make this mistake again
Your a LIFESAVER!!! I have ordered my first oarnge that will arrive in the next day or two. I've heard the horror stories and the good stories. I figured the bad was from operator error. Thank you for sharing this info. I'm maidening my eflite f16 with it and am beyond thrilled I came across this video first.
Thanks for the good info. I did notice the flashing light on my receivers when I didn't cycle the transmitter and receiver correctly. Now I'll make sure to always do the correct order.
Agreed. Makes sense to me. Why would you ever want to fly a plane with a flashing receiver light? How do you know it's only from swapping the battery? One way to know is to cycle power and see if it goes away. Costs you nothing.
i was always told the blinking is a signal that power in the planes been interrupted,(dirty or loose lipo connections) nothing more- all signals remain after lipo re-connection , are aok after the power interruption blink- ive found tplugs forming a non conductive layer enough to make the connection intermittent
That is true. However, I believe very strongly that there is a glitch. If that light is blinking, I don't care what caused it. Don't fly it. This is a conclusion drawn from personal experience.
I've been using the orange RX for years and never had an issue, I have however had a similar issue with an AR600 that i Need to rebind every time I fly the plane its in. Like others have said good call on the props, I put a 3 inch cut in my leather couch playing with my toys in the living room
Orange are better than spektrum. It flashes to indicate a "brown out" because signal was interrupted by unplugging. I have buckets of experience with these. I dig the throwback radio!
Yep, thats the brownout indicator. Still a good idea to do a full reset while on the ground, so you know if you actually have a voltage problem while flying. Always launch/takeoff with a solid LED, otherwise you won't know if you had a brownout DURING flight.
good to know. the better I get as a pilot, the more I know that I was the cause of a crash. Many pilots keep blaming gear when the plane does funny stuff when it was in fact pilot error
Very good tip here. I didn't know that that light blinking was a warning. And I have lost signal and crashed. So I will definitely practice this and turn off the radio between each plane and each flight. Thanks for the tip and eye opener 👍😎
Been racing a T-28 in pylon for 3 years with an Orange receiver. This never happens with my T-28 racer. It always comes back on steady after a battery change. It works GREAT! I do also now use Lemon Receivers as they are more diverse and cheaper than Spektrum. Good call on the props I've got pictures of friend's hand with 72 stitches because he didn't pull the prop!
That is correct. But you still don't want to risk flying it in that condition. We have an order and a process for a reason. Any time you take technology out of it's proper order (in this case "TX on, plug in battery....") you run the risk of a glitch. This is the primary point in my above video. If the light is blinking, don't fly. Start over again, just to be sure you haven't confused the system, regardless of what the cause of the brown out was. I eventually plan to do a follow up video on this issue to clarify some of this. The reality is, I didn't deliver my point very well. My point needs to be clarified.
Was there ever a follow up from this? Has Orangerx weighed in on this? I find it hard to believe that a loss of signal warning would cause issues. It’s just saying that there was a loss of signal. It doesn’t hurt to power off and start over, but I don’t know that this is the issue.
I''ve thought about making a follow up video to this. My opinions on it are different than they were when I first made this video. Perhaps one of these days I'll make a new video.
You should always shut off the radio and turn it back on with the correct plane programmed in before installing a battery with any receiver, If you don't you're just asking for trouble!
I've heard stories about both the Lemon AND the Orange Receivers! Thanks for pointing that out. I'll try to tell the guys in the Club about your video. I'm sure some will like to know about that.
Read the instruction first!!!!!!!! That is a blinking error message because the receiver detect an instanctly loss of power due to the cut of battery!!!!!!!! And it inform you about that.....nothing more........no stange things!!!!
I am very aware of what the blinking light is supposed to mean. However, I am of the very strong belief that there is a glitch. If that light is blinking, I don't care what the cause is. Don't fly it. Personal experience is how I have drawn this conclusion.
Ohh i have a video, in flight, on my channel and you can see the red light turn off and then (after crash) start to blink. Btw, many times i saw crashes ´cause they don´t check if the led is blinking or not.
Hi there sdssteward, i'm new to r/c planes and am having trouble trying to find out which of these Orange rx are full range. Which one do you use? I'm after a 6 channel rx for my Timber X,by the way great video.
Good info! I lost a Dynam 50 inch Waco using an Orange rx a couple months ago. I lost signal and it just fell out of the sky. I was at approximately 400 ft. range. I was using an Orange 615 rx. After the crash, I think I read somewhere that rx is good for park flyers but maybe not so good for distance and perhaps, that was my problem. Maybe not! It could be that I didn't cycle my Spektrum DX8G2 transmitter prior to plugging in the battery. I am still a bit leery of using the 615 in a larger aircraft but will definitely remember what you discovered. Good video. Thanks for the info!
@@chuckstarck1637 interestingly enough, I have since discovered what my problem was. It was not the receiver. I hate to admit it, but it was me! I was flying the biplane too slow for the turn I was making. It tip stalled and went down. Totally my fault, not the receiver. I have since been using that same receiver in another plane and have had no issues at all. I can honestly say, I have never had an issue with Orange receivers.
Would the DX-8i work with the admiral RX1000 reciever with the diversity antenna? I am thinking of getting the DX-8i and it looks like it would work HK Orange reciever just fine. I am looking for 4, 6 or 8 channel recievers that have the wires coming out of the end of the reciever instead coming out on top.
You are correct about the cause. However, I believe it is a bad idea to fly when it is blinking. Electronics are finicky, technology is faulty, any time you do something out of order, there is a risk of the system getting confused. 9 times out of ten, it's probably fine but it's better to just unplug everything and start over from the beginning.
@@sdssteward its common protocol to cycle a spektrum radios power every time you cycle the receiver power. That way you will never have a blinking led, and if you do its a serious problem to the model as it is telling you so.
I have had personally about 5 different orange receivers and every one at one point in time caused a crash model and none of them were blinking at the time the incident happened. And I have used other brands of dsm2 and dsmx receivers with no problems and even in moments where I landed and have notest that the light was blinking and had had a brown out moment the reciver reconnected and I still got the plane landed ok. I have well over 170 models with recivers in them and never had an issue with original spektrum recivers. Your model is only as good as the connection you have with your control. If you have a 15 buck reciver in a plane that cost you over 100 bucks wich is most cases a cost of any good model you are saying it's only worth 15 bucks to you becous that is all that connects you to that model.. be safe use reliable gear.
It was a explanation based on opinion, not fact. Blinking light is just a warning that a loss of power or signal occurred, nothing more. Moving to a full range RX like the R620 would remedy signal strength issues, the RX he is using won't have much range past 500'.
Ton RC, you are correct about the cause of the blinking red. However, technology is finicky and faulty. There is always an order in which we are supposed to fo things. We all know...turn the radio on, then plug the battery in. Things have an order and any time we go out of order, there is a risk of confusing the system. I will never fly on a blinking red. I realize all the blinking light is telling me is that the signal was interrupted. Still, I don't want to fly once that signal is interrupted. At that point, the process is out of order and I am at risk of a confused system collapsing. Nine times out of ten, it's probably fine. But I would rather unplug and start all over again, just to be safe.
Sorry to spoil your happiness, but I think you have misinterpreted this. Blinking red in this case means that receiver is telling you that there was power loss onboard, and you should check your power system. Since this was caused by unplugging power, this is fully expected. There is nothing wrong with the signal after power recovery.
I am well aware. You like many others are missing the point. Regardless of the cause of blinking, you should still start over at powering the plane up when the light actually is blinking. Regardless of how or what caused the interruption in signal, there is still an order that must be followed to assure safety of flight. As we all are aware, we are supposed to turn on the transmitter, wait a few seconds and then plug the battery in any time you go out of that order, you are asking for trouble. This is simply how technology and machinery works. There is a cycle to powering up any machine. Any time you go out of order, there is a chance for a glitch. Is there also a chance it may NOT glitch? Absolutely; but why take that risk? If the light is blinking, I am going to start over again. Period. It doesn't matter what the cause of the interruption was. The signal can potentially fail yet AGAIN when you do because the proper steps in powering up are now out of order; potentially confusing the system. I have explained this over and over again to people who have said the same thing you have throughout the thread. I wish people would scroll a few comments and read some of the discussion before commenting like this.
In short, what I am saying is....everything you said is true (and understood) except your last sentence. You don't want to fly once the signal is interpreted. Yes. 8 out of 10 times it might be fine. But there is a chance that the interruption confused the signal from recovering outside the proper arming up order. This is the case with most computerized machines. Example, if you accidentally shut off your TX before putting the plane in the air, would you just go ahead and fly it? I wouldn't. I would unplug the battery and start over I work on machines at my job. They are all the same way. If you power up out of cycle, the machine can get confused and glitch
The blinking red led on the OrangeRx is simply telling you there was a break in signal, it is a telltale of a problem that occurred. That's all that is. In this case you were the problem by cycling power. And ditch that short range rx for a full range R620x and you will have MUCH better range. That is probably what your problem was..... wrong RX for the job.
If you really want to argue range, signal and reliability, ditch 2.4 and go with 72MHZ. Even the science behind it proves 72 to be more reliable. I get why most left it. 1. Computerization. 2. Not having to worry about multiple frequencies and changing channels. But truth be told, the signal and range is far greater on the old school materials. And.....it's cheaper. Which is why I am slowly converting out of 2.4 into 72MHZ.
Since most fields are 2.4ghz only, that isn't a very strong argument. If you are flying by yourself and like old tech go for it. I can fly further than I can comfortably see with 2.4 and have no need to step back in time to gain something I'm not lacking.
@@sdssteward I wouldn't want to fly where I had to rely on others to keep up with a frequency board so they didn't lose control, that's the whole point of 2.4 in the first place. When everyone had to be aware of that situation it was still an problem sometimes. Now that 72 is hardly a thought, the only people keeping up with that would be the few who used it and I could easily see problems with that. Many clubs welcome 2.4 to be done with that.
I realize it is a brown out warning. I'm in full agreement with you over the cause. My point is that technology is finicky and faulty. There is an order to which we do everything. Example, we turn on the radio, THEN plug the battery in, right? Well, this is no different. When you have a brown out, the order has been altered in which the signals communicate and you are now at a risk of the system getting confused. Nine times out of ten, you are probably fine. I still don't want to risk it. If that light is blinking, I'm unplugging and starting over again, just to be safe.
It has always been my understanding that you should turn off the transmitter when changing battery,s it is good you are letting orange owners know about this behavior not so good that you are encouraging spektrum owners to do the risky procedure if you want your models to last play it safe I am still using old models from parkzone and other simlar companies some of which are 6 years old and i dont fly tamely
Please show me in my video where I have "encouraged" Spektrum owners to do the "risky" behavior of not starting over on the process. All I did was point out that orange owners cannot and should not.
I have ran hobbyking products for over 15 year's never had an issue with any of there products except these orange rx reciever i crashed my pa addiction bad about a 2 year's ago on take off i did my normal tx on then plane went to take off and had no elevator the light was solid red when powered up but after the crash was flashing and no elevator but everything else was working so decided to shut it all down and re check tx then plane everything was working like it should after a new motor box wing repair and motor replacement and a swap to a spektrum reciever never had an issue since flown over 100 plus times i still use all there other hk products still just dont trust them orange rx on an expensive plane
I need to do a follow up video. There are so many clarifications I need to make, as well as share some new conclusions of my own, which you have in fact hinted on in your reply.
Flashing Lighjt means you have a failure in the system. they are designed that way to let you know that there was a problem, its not a fault its perpusefully designed this way to aleart you. read the manual. Please dont spread the wrong word.
I am welll aware. My point is, you don't ever want ro fly after the system has been interrupted like that. Technology has a risk glitching any time you either do something out of order or have a momentary loss of power. Nine times out of ten, you'll probably be fine but it's that one time where a loss of power confuses the system that you're going to have an issue like I did. Simply put, it's always better to power everything back down and start over from the beginning. There is an order to how we arm our planes up for a reason. Turn the radio on, plug in the battery, do your controls check, then fly. Follow that order.
This blinking tells you that there was a power problem (you unplugged the batt.), that is all, this video is rubbish. These old receivers have a very limited range, I only use them with a satilite receiver
You're repeating what others have said. Regardless, you don't want to fly when blinking. The system is at that point confused and can cause further problems and glitches. THIS is the point.
I see you did not stay at a Holiday Inn last night. The blinking light function on the orange receiver is purposely built into this receiver to let the user know if there was ever a loss of connection between the Tx and Rx. You induced a loss in signal when you powered down the Rx. This is normal, and not as you say, "not firing on all channels". It's too bad that your false information has been watched by the amount of viewers that have watched this video.
You are not wrong. However, there is still always a chance that when you do things out of order, you can confuse the system. Example: we are told to always turn the transmitter on first, then the remote. Could it work just as well to plug the battery in first? Maybe. Buy maybe not. Technology is faulty. The more you go exactly according to the manual, the less likely you are to have a problem. So, no. I don't find it unfortunate that thousands have seen this video at all. It's always a good reminder to encourage people to "go in order" when dealing with ANY technology.
You're comparing apples to oranges, buddy....DSM2 versus DSMX. A simple range-test will answer any questions you have about the signal of your "remote"!? If you aren't humble enough to admit that you fucked-up, then you will never be a good pilot. The video is not clickbait, per se. Just anecdotal evidence....
Here is a quote from Horizon Hobby's website: "DSM2 users who rarely, if ever, fly in big events or other 'noisy' 2.4GHz environments may find the DSM2 equipment they have now is all they will ever need. The difference DSMX makes is only apparent when hundreds of 2.4GHz systems are in use at once." Can't argue with the facts....www.spektrumrc.com/Technology/DSMX.aspx
