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PFF's Steve Palazzolo and Sam Monson break down Tua Tagovailoa's contract situation and what the Dolphins should do.
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@markostendorf2373
@markostendorf2373 Месяц назад
I think some Miami fans just live in the moment . CAN YOU EVEN REMEMBER HAVING A TOP 10 QB. Absolutely nuts.
@StillKeepOnLosing
@StillKeepOnLosing Месяц назад
Miami fans forgot the whole defense, Hill, and Waddle got hurt before the playoffs even started.
@legend1849
@legend1849 Месяц назад
​@@StillKeepOnLosingagainst top teams tua threw 9tds 7 ints.. last 3 games of the season the offense had 32 possessions which resulted in 5 td's 2 fg's 6 turnovers 12 punts 5 turnovers on downs 1 end half 1 end game.. that's terrible and you can't blame the defense for that..
@StillKeepOnLosing
@StillKeepOnLosing Месяц назад
@@legend1849 Dallas, Ravens, Bills.... 3 top 5 defenses with injuries to the offense. You casuals need to get good.
@StillKeepOnLosing
@StillKeepOnLosing Месяц назад
@@legend1849 KC scored under 20 points 11 times last year (23 is league average).... Silly
@tyshawnchisholm5744
@tyshawnchisholm5744 Месяц назад
Yep, Dan Marino, better arm
@andrewbrown4088
@andrewbrown4088 Месяц назад
I always feel like theres so much nuisance missing from every Tua convo. By the end of the year, the oline was trash cause of the injuries and Tyreek and waddle were also injured and not getting open as fast (leg injuries). Mike Mcdaniel is a terrible situational play caller too (even if he is a good play caller in general). The problem with Tua was that he isn't able to play hero ball and overcome all that. And he looked terrible when those things were working against him. He also still makes like 2 to 3 horrible throws a game. Who knows if he'll be worth the money but I'm still willing to see him prove it (extend but leave an out early on)
@TuatagaloaTeo
@TuatagaloaTeo Месяц назад
That is what he is famous for. Hero ball.
@FlexileTheWolf
@FlexileTheWolf Месяц назад
Came off the bench and won national champion championship as a freshman is pretty clutch
@joec8942
@joec8942 Месяц назад
Yeah but college is over and he’s supposed to be a big boy now.
@ccrr8029
@ccrr8029 Месяц назад
And what did he do as a starter in college? NOTHING!
@FlexileTheWolf
@FlexileTheWolf Месяц назад
@ccrr8029 87 TD's to 11 INT and a national champion. What are you talking about lol
@ccrr8029
@ccrr8029 Месяц назад
@@FlexileTheWolfHe had 1 good half of football. Then he became the starter and won what exactly? With the best team in the league. Hurts had to come in to win the 2018 SEC Championship, Tua was AWFUL in that game. he had 1 college playoff win in his career, the kid isn’t good enough and it’s time to move on.
@FlexileTheWolf
@FlexileTheWolf Месяц назад
@ccrr8029 Top 10 NFL QB by any measurement/ metric you want to use for last 2 seasons. Didn't get hurt last year. You lost your first point that he "didn't do anything as a starter in college" now your grasping. He crushed it in college "Tank for Tua" remember? Based on you losing the first point but continuing anyways I'm going to end our conversation here. Have a nice day I'm sure you will respond but I wont.
@christr1ut87
@christr1ut87 Месяц назад
I love how Steve describes Purdy’s financial situation as he’s eating ramen noodles every night. The guy is making close to $1M per year. I’d like to think if I were making that much I would be able to get by and eat whatever I want every night.
@brobsty1856
@brobsty1856 Месяц назад
He got a nice bonus for usage too. I think it was close to a mil
@StillKeepOnLosing
@StillKeepOnLosing Месяц назад
He's in the Corrupt state of Cali... Most of it goes to pay taxes lol
@awesomebeast7509
@awesomebeast7509 Месяц назад
@@StillKeepOnLosingTo think we pay all these taxes just to have the number 29th state ranked in education. Smh
@sebastianmendez3335
@sebastianmendez3335 Месяц назад
You must not know about that cali tax and sf rent
@drewwilson6639
@drewwilson6639 Месяц назад
He does live in one of the most expensive cities on the planet
@edwardripley7266
@edwardripley7266 Месяц назад
ALL you TUA TAGOVAILOA haters out there saying he is not this and that it's all his fault are HIPPOCRIT and jealousy forget that he is not a one man TEAM others are playing with him.
@Cassirole13
@Cassirole13 Месяц назад
As a young adult, I’ve learned so much about professionalism through these gentlemen
@sidekickz2180
@sidekickz2180 Месяц назад
I know the new hotness in the NFL is to have a QB on a rookie contract, but teams for DECADES have had veteran QBs lead their teams to success. Tua led the league in passing and has great chemistry with his coach/team. He isn't going anywhere soon.
@Ballaholic17
@Ballaholic17 Месяц назад
I don't see us trading Tua, he deserves to be the starter this year, but if he's asking for a top 5 qb deal, then the organization should let him play out the 5th year. I get we've made strides and Tua's been good the last 2 years, but the truth is we're still a fringe wild card team that can't beat the Bills, who have dominated the division since Tua arrived in Miami. If the Dolphins are content with squeaking into the playoffs every year, then they should extend Tua now, if they want a higher ceiling, then we should hold off until we see a full 5 years of where Tua gets us. If we can't win our division, and we can't win a playoff game with him on a rookie deal, then what are you realistically expecting after he gets paid? It's tough because there's no clear and obvious replacement, but that brings me into my next point, if you lock up Tua, you're not actively looking to upgrade the position, and if you're not looking to upgrade the position, then you're just spinning the wheels in mud. I think it's fair for the team to want to see if there's a higher ceiling with Tua this year, there's always context into why we didn't win, it's never on 1 player, but when you decide to pay the qb, it changes the way you build the rest of your roster and if Tua can't elevate his play when things aren't ideal around him, then what's gonna happen in 2 years when Tyreek isn't here and we lose some core players that we can't afford? We can always tag him next year too, so it's not like we have to commit long term at this point. The organization has ways they can keep him without giving a top of the market qb deal.
@iafigueroa91
@iafigueroa91 Месяц назад
Elevate everything around him? How can you elevate when all of your weapons at WR and RB were dealing with high ankle sprains and turf toe, and an Oline that was reduced to rubble by the end of the year, with backup OL playing most of the snaps, and play calling late in games and late in the season, that was horrible.
@TimothyRitchey
@TimothyRitchey Месяц назад
If we let Wilkins walk so we have enough money to pay our QB and then we don't pay Tua, wtf are we doing? Tua is the guy. Doubters be damned because we had the number 1 offense in the league last year. Pay the man and let's go.
@javiertellez3376
@javiertellez3376 Месяц назад
Same sobbing story with Tannenhill. Tannenhill was allegedly the "The Guy"
@joec8942
@joec8942 Месяц назад
No. 1 offense against the weak teams. He can’t hit the broad side of barn when there’s halfway decent competition. Or when the weather’s bad. Or in December. Or in primetime. Or when the games on the line.
@catchemcarlisle5655
@catchemcarlisle5655 Месяц назад
Because Tua is barely top 20 in the league and you won’t win a thing
@OldManInternet
@OldManInternet Месяц назад
The Dolphins let expensive players walk, but it wasn't to clear space to pay Tua. It was to replace a lot of that premium talent with solid starters and depth pieces to make another run. They've got one last year to make it work on his rookie deal, and then a gap franchise tag year. That's the Dolphins' window. After that Hill and Mostert will likely have lost a step, and either retired or moved on. Then they can either pay Tua, or let him walk/trade him and reset the roster. Tua is an excellent point guard, but he's just not that top tier premium talent that can carry a mid roster, because if they thought they could pay him and field an average roster and still be contenders, they would. But instead when the offense was hurt and playing with league average speed, Tua couldn't elevate them, because he's not that guy. Which isn't even a shot at Tua, because there's only 1 guy in the league who is "that guy," and it's Mahomes. He's the only one to get paid and still win championships with one aging star, mediocre free agents nobody else wanted, and rookie contract skill guys. Everyone else comes up short because the margin for error once you pay your QB league highest money is razor thin, and nobody else in the league has proven they can do it.
@zakeejones-rumph2055
@zakeejones-rumph2055 Месяц назад
Coming from a Giants fan mfs better be grateful for Tua 😂 things could be A WHOLE LOT WORSE 😂😂
@jlkaraoke1
@jlkaraoke1 Месяц назад
If they trade away Tua then forget about the Super Bowl.
@Quay33
@Quay33 Месяц назад
Nigga we cant even win a big game in December with a loaded roster wake up
@kmshark12
@kmshark12 Месяц назад
Top passer in yards, tied for top in completion percentage while dead-last in QBR run rating because he was FORBIDDEN to run due to how polarizing he is.. give him the BAG. No one gave a crap about Pickett having 2 concussions in 2022 - but Tua was forced to sit out the rest of the year. This year, he will be back to the mobile QB he was his second year and at Alabama before the hip injury. If our O-Line has good center-play for the year, I expect him to lead the league in passer rating and QBR.... teams will not be able to ignore him as a scrambler - it will reduce the pass rush and keep the middle of the field more open. If the defense is at least top 15 - we should win the division and hope to see him in a playoff game that isn't in the top 5 coldest NFL games of all time - I would not have much hope for a Marino-led Dolphins team going up against the Chiefs at home in that kind of cold.
@chetjablonski1993
@chetjablonski1993 Месяц назад
Not winning the division
@jamelwilliams1144
@jamelwilliams1144 Месяц назад
Totally agree
@piercechatman1773
@piercechatman1773 Месяц назад
It seems like that move would give Miami off the hook than help out Washington more
@OldManInternet
@OldManInternet Месяц назад
The only QB currently in the league who's proven he can get paid and win it all is Mahomes. When you pay a QB like that, the quality of the talent around them gets worse. Which means that QB needs to be a guy who can elevate low-to-mid level talent to a championship level. Paying Hurts and Herbert like they're Mahomes was a mistake, which will be evident when their rosters disintegrate over the next few years to pay their bloated contracts. Allen and Lamar are perfect examples of a guys who are trying to drag a mid tier offensive roster to the Super Bowl by playing hero ball, and they can't quite do it. And the jury is out on Burrow because of injuries. Aside from Mahomes, we'll likely see teams with strong rosters and QBs on rookie contracts to be contending for the next few Super Bowls, because that's the most viable path if you don't have "the guy." Guys like Purdy, Stroud, Richardson, and maybe Love (he's a weird case because of his age and contract) and maybe an unexpected star rookie from an upcoming draft. And then mid tier guys with reasonable contracts and solid rosters like Goff, Baker, Stafford, etc will have a punchers chance. Teams that get desperate and give good QB's record breaking deals aren't going anywhere.
@user-cp7fo7im1s
@user-cp7fo7im1s Месяц назад
I love Tua, but my main concern is with almost any QB you pay top money for, it limits you. Hopefully Tua is good getting paid, but still leaving the team flexible because he wants to win. I don't think Tyreek gives a shit. He wants the most money. Waddle still needs to get paid too.
@jrmiami4035
@jrmiami4035 Месяц назад
that's why they didn't overpay Hunt or Wilkins.... now they have money to take care of Waddle, Holland and Phillips
@jamelwilliams1144
@jamelwilliams1144 Месяц назад
If Tua was on the Steelers last year, they EASILY make a superbowl run. The Dolphins will be idiots to let Tua walk away after leading the number 1 offense in the lead
@legend1849
@legend1849 Месяц назад
I wouldn't extend him .And i don't believe those team in position to draft a top QB would ever trade their pick for tua..
@jrmiami4035
@jrmiami4035 Месяц назад
What contract situation? you pay your franchise QB and get younger next season with all those picks
@roguebossa
@roguebossa Месяц назад
Talking about trading Tua is moot, it's not about to happen. So far as big game performance is concerned, the offensive line is the achilles heel.
@BatmanPops
@BatmanPops Месяц назад
Not Built For The Moment i See 🏟🏔🏈👐🏾😰🧔🏾🥋💩🛏👀👴🏻😏😁🤭🤣🤣🤣
@omarp2207
@omarp2207 Месяц назад
Bald guy knows what he's talking about. It's a stupid hypothetical.
@dioncooper2844
@dioncooper2844 Месяц назад
Tyreek never had stats like this with Patty Mo ? WHY?
@Quay33
@Quay33 Месяц назад
Fuck state we want “WINS” and Tua cant get it done
@5oloswag
@5oloswag Месяц назад
Unless he’s willing to take a very, very, very, very low deal, like Russell Wilson (not that low) type deal, where he’s like the 25th highest paid guy or something, than Draft one.
@dominic64tblightning24
@dominic64tblightning24 Месяц назад
All depends how you view him.
@DiegoDL7997
@DiegoDL7997 Месяц назад
If Dolphin fans claim Tuna is better than Justin as they do religiously on X and this comment thread, why haven't the Dolphins extended him by now?
@jrmiami4035
@jrmiami4035 Месяц назад
he's getting extended this offseason..
@Quay33
@Quay33 Месяц назад
Im a 🐬 fan and we do not want Tua that is all the Alabama crazies backing him
@TigerGrey
@TigerGrey Месяц назад
Tua should demand a trade. He was never appreciated in Miami. In his entire career, they tried to get a new QB. Every other QB in his class already got a new contract, yet he doesn't have one. I would holdout if I was Tua's agent.
@user-ny7ki8yo6g
@user-ny7ki8yo6g Месяц назад
Fins up 🩵🧡
@nateh8994
@nateh8994 Месяц назад
Haven't even watched the whole video. But why would Washington pay Tua, if Miami, who on paper is better by miles than Washington, doesn't want to? And give up #2 overall in a relatively good QB class!? No that's not realistic whatsoever and Washington says no instantly. Washington says no for the exact reasons this person listed as why Miami would want pick #2.
@Rekcha
@Rekcha Месяц назад
I once saw someone say that they have to pay him because he’s their best QB since Marino. That’s a low bar, though. The question is whether you can win a Super Bowl with him, and I don’t think they can
@StillKeepOnLosing
@StillKeepOnLosing Месяц назад
They were a blocked extra point from winning the SB.... Not his fault Shanahan didnt get the special team ready to play.
@_wael
@_wael Месяц назад
@@StillKeepOnLosing huh? he's talking about the dolphins
@StillKeepOnLosing
@StillKeepOnLosing Месяц назад
@@_wael Haha. They were talking about Purdy at the time and I got it twisted up lol.
@fruitstrong5977
@fruitstrong5977 Месяц назад
If this is true about Tua, then why does Justin Herbert have a $52 Mill deal when he's under 500 in his 4 years as a starter? This video should be about Justin Herbert, not Tua. Tua is 32-19 and only lost to 1 team in his division in 4 years. He's NEVER LOST to the Patriots or the Jets. Why would Chris Grier do something stupid and foolish by not paying or trading away the QB he drafted? Chris Grier is a smart guy. He's no dummy. He's paying Tua.
@DiegoDL7997
@DiegoDL7997 Месяц назад
Ah, the typical Tuna fan...bUT JuSTiN HErBErT. If Tuna is so great, why haven't the Dolphins extended him yet?
@jamelwilliams1144
@jamelwilliams1144 Месяц назад
​@@DiegoDL7997 He's going to get extended this year idiot. He didn't last year because of his injury. DUH!!!
@jamelwilliams1144
@jamelwilliams1144 Месяц назад
Totally agree!!!
@Tmindful182
@Tmindful182 Месяц назад
LOL you seem awfully excited about beating 2 awful teams in the jets & patriots. He’s small & isn’t good enough. Tu’anon isnt real. If your goal is to beat up on bad teams then you got your guy! If you want to make super bowls keep working to get better at QB & elsewhere. Hope this helps!
@fruitstrong5977
@fruitstrong5977 Месяц назад
@@Tmindful182 Very excited. Because no other QB in the NFL can say the same. Please tell me when the Defenses of the Patriots and the Jets were considered bad in the last 4 years? Tua plays against the Defense.
@sabby4480
@sabby4480 Месяц назад
My problem with Tua is he doesn’t win the big game. If he can just go out beat a contender I can easily say pay him. I don’t care about regular season padded stats. I care about our losing record against buffalo. Getting stomped by the ravens, giving away a game to the titans.
@louismaldarelli7053
@louismaldarelli7053 Месяц назад
last year he threw 6 TDs against the ravens
@legend1849
@legend1849 Месяц назад
​@louismaldarelli7053 that was two years ago. In the games against top teams tua threw 9tds 7 ints.. last 3 games of the season the offense had 32 possessions which resulted in 5 td's 2 fg's 6 turnovers 12 punts 5 turnovers on downs 1 end half 1 end game.. that's terrible and you can't blame the defense for that..
@TuatagaloaTeo
@TuatagaloaTeo Месяц назад
That is how he got famous son....
@tuat.mvpformallybigd.2635
@tuat.mvpformallybigd.2635 Месяц назад
Dolphins always get rid of good players. If Tua leaves then we are starting all over again.
@zeeeej
@zeeeej Месяц назад
Just don't start calling the Seahawks coach Mike McDonald's
@johnlawson1167
@johnlawson1167 Месяц назад
It's too much work for me to bother doing for free on my own time but I would be interested to see team spending via % of cap allocation to positional groups through pie charts over the last 15 years. "Average playoff teams since 2010 spend 11% +/-3% of cap on qb's, xx% on d-line, Xx% on o-line. Then we Compare the numbers between the average playoff team, the average NFL team, the average conference Champion team, We would definitely see that Matt Ryan's Super Bowl run is an outlier
@johnlawson1167
@johnlawson1167 Месяц назад
15 years by 32 teams means 480 different rosters that would have to be broken down and charted, Call it 5 positional groups on offense. (Te, wr,rb, qb, o-line) 5 on defense (cb,s,lb,dt,de) And blanket st. Means 11 positional groups. 53 man rosters means it's damn near 25,000 data points sorted into 5,000 groups. Dear God the amount of work...
@ccrr8029
@ccrr8029 Месяц назад
Tua is holding this offense back, paying him is franchise suicide
@justtimes9257
@justtimes9257 Месяц назад
the dolphins need to get a qb to replace him
@John-ui4nx
@John-ui4nx Месяц назад
Tua is not a Franchise Qb
@carlhenry3201
@carlhenry3201 Месяц назад
Who the is this dude. “The hypothetical doesn’t work”. My nicca it’s a hypothetical, it’s designed to work by the sheer definition of the word lol. But with that aside yes Mia would be better off with a higher upside prospect then paying Tua. Simple
@The_Zilli
@The_Zilli Месяц назад
I would not be surprised if both Tua and McDaniel are not with the team after next year.
@StillKeepOnLosing
@StillKeepOnLosing Месяц назад
Delusional.. McDaniels already one of the best coaches.
@The_Zilli
@The_Zilli Месяц назад
@@StillKeepOnLosing he still hasnt won a playoff game - what do you think will happen if he doesnt win one this year? That's not dellusional, that's a very real possibility. Never forget how deep the AFC is. So if he doesnt win one this year, that would be 3 years and no playoff victories. When do coaches start getting shown the door? Yeah, that's what I thought.
@StillKeepOnLosing
@StillKeepOnLosing Месяц назад
@@The_Zilli Tua was injured and Mike almost beat the Bills with a 3rd stringer. 2nd year the whole defense, Hill, and Waddle got hurt before the playoff game... Context son.... Context
@louismaldarelli7053
@louismaldarelli7053 Месяц назад
@@The_Zilli a second year coach going to the playoffs in back to back years is a bad thing?
@Rekcha
@Rekcha Месяц назад
McDaniel is arguably the best play caller in the league right now besides maybe Shanahan and Reid, plus everyone seems to like him. He crafted an offense that tricks people into thinking a limited QB who can’t do anything if a play lasts more than 2 seconds is an MVP candidate. He’s staying
@vitigaymer1053
@vitigaymer1053 Месяц назад
Miami needs a QB with clutch genes. As a fellow Islander- I love Tua. But hes just not HIM!
@StillKeepOnLosing
@StillKeepOnLosing Месяц назад
Hard to be clutch when everyone around you dies before the playoff even started...
@Meatyoutube-pn3mm
@Meatyoutube-pn3mm Месяц назад
They did not beat any one with a winning record sooo
@Quay33
@Quay33 Месяц назад
Im a 🐬 fan and Tua is not it. He folds in every big moment last 4 years.
@user-eb8iu2qp5s
@user-eb8iu2qp5s Месяц назад
Dolphin was the shit before Tua
@jesot
@jesot Месяц назад
Dolphins with cheap Nix > Dolphins with paid Tua
@user-eb8iu2qp5s
@user-eb8iu2qp5s Месяц назад
Trade Tua to the Steelers please
@TuatagaloaTeo
@TuatagaloaTeo Месяц назад
Nerds talking football....funny as hell!
@kendallcampbell8539
@kendallcampbell8539 Месяц назад
No one is trading for Tua. Go Find 🐬
@StillKeepOnLosing
@StillKeepOnLosing Месяц назад
The egomaniac snitch Brian Flores destroyed his confidence. Funny thing is Flores couldn't win without Tua too.
@mrgannon
@mrgannon Месяц назад
How do those NFL corporate boots taste?
@greggsoles6794
@greggsoles6794 Месяц назад
Tua is trash
@roguebossa
@roguebossa Месяц назад
comment is basura trash
@lawyerup8040
@lawyerup8040 Месяц назад
The Dolphins have a top 1 WR, not a top 10 QB. Without Tyreek Hill, Tua is to 15-20 QB. Stop overpaying QB's and handcuffing the team for years of mediocrity.
@alf1380
@alf1380 Месяц назад
Tua's numbers were ELITE with Tyreek on the bench last year, and beat the #3 defense 30-0 without him.
@Rekcha
@Rekcha Месяц назад
@@alf1380You’re neglecting to mention that they were playing the New York Jets who had two QBs with sub-45 passer ratings in that game because the defense forced two turnovers, and that the Dolphins had two rushing TDs. So it wasn’t Tua winning without Hill, it was the team winning without Hill. That speaks to the bigger issue rn, which is that Tua cannot elevate the team. He cannot operate outside of structure at all and has physical limitations that limit the playbook. That’s why they generally can’t beat good defenses or play in the cold. If the offense is off its rhythm, he can’t bail them out
@lawyerup8040
@lawyerup8040 Месяц назад
@@Rekcha Thanks for getting those facts straight. Winners make bold moves...The 49ers, Rams, Texans...Everyone else handcuffs themselves to mediocre QBs for the sake of development and let the talent that made them play well leave to keep the QB that could play decent without them...i.e. Its a terrible cycle.
@alf1380
@alf1380 Месяц назад
@@Rekcha There is always an excuse and a further goal post move.....
@lawyerup8040
@lawyerup8040 Месяц назад
@@alf1380 No excuse, I would prefer the Dolphins keep and overpay Tua. I'm a jets fan. lol.
@bjn.redbaron5755
@bjn.redbaron5755 Месяц назад
As a dolphins fan, Tua needs to go. He just isn’t a leader and would much rather have Drake Maye. Tua is not masculine or stoic, and always needs emotional support from McDaniel anytime he makes a mistake, that’s not how a man is suppose to act especially a QB.
@alf1380
@alf1380 Месяц назад
Look at this goof.
@tayinrivera886
@tayinrivera886 Месяц назад
I’m calling your doctor to help you get that brain scan you desperately need
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