"The Twilight War" - GDW's Nuclear World War III Scenario - Twilight: 2000 Lore 

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nah its yugoslavia and turkey fighting on the same side

And the USSR along with Germany being didvided.

Well in this world, Germany Yugoslavia and Turkey are the axis and the Soviet Union is the single entente member.

if the soviet union didnt collapse in 1991 because gorbechav wasnt in power or something then I could see Yugoslavia continue going as the cold war stays frozen

omg

And in the real life in 1983

You gotta love a Ref who goes the extra mile to set the scene

@@legbreaker2762 even then, he's allowed some silly events, like the time my character wrestled a bear

@@theorsimer Totally believable :D

@@legbreaker2762 Hold it with any ideas you may get!

@@theorsimer Rip-Its are a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.

For more information en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twilight:_2000#Original_setting

YES

Aged like milk

@@mattmk_ii1063 And for that I’m *GRATEFUL*…

@@mattmk_ii1063 But it did age. We're still around. For now.

There's a weekly game on discord if you're interested....

@@legbreaker2762 I'm interested!

@@legbreaker2762 ooooo

@@legbreaker2762 which discord server?

i hope my party dose not kill my character im going to play a officer

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Yeah, GDW didn't have much knowledge about european countries when they first wrote the backstory. Free League Publishings 4th edition sounds like a much more feasable history line. Would be great to have the same infographics about their version.

@@studiomotljus I heartily disagree that FL's 4th ed timeline is more feasible. Italy sitting out the war as neutral makes more sense, sure, but in the overall, I'll take the 1st ed. "alternate history" tineline.

@@studiomotljus No. NATO and Warsaw Pact in the 80-90 were disproportionate. USSR were really weak but hiding it from pubic (GDW didn't knew that), but they still managed to see that west + china would be too strong for USSR for them to risk attacking NATO. So, they used clever story points about miniorites (not mentioned in this timeline for some reason - like FRG using german minorites - like Silesians - in Poland to destabilize country and made them drift away from wanting to join NATO). If you watch closely Italy, Belgium, France and Greece leave NATO, as FRG starts skirmishing west Poland (disobeying civilian goverment orders). US just went along and attacked (disobeying civilian rulings too). All went too far without control, as world tensions were too high. Turkey attacked Cyprus as, Greece left NATO (they saw it as opportunity - there are real life tensions there even today), Greece and Italy attacked NATO to prevent defensive war, and they were right, as got bombed at later stages of war... GDW simply took every known political tension at the time and go along "let's do the worst scenario". It's grim. And as we see today with Ukraine, Georgia and Kazachstan, this stuff can come down without warning. Think about it.

@@studiomotljus FL's version is rubbish with a lot of REALLY stupid ideas in it (like a US carrier fleet in the Baltic where they're nothing but targets and impossible to resupply or reinforce).

Italy had withdrawn from NATO in protest against what looked a lot like German aggression against Poland (again). They allied with Greece in their war with Turkey (which Turkey started by the way) and NATO were informed to stay out of what was a "local dispute". NATO needed to keep Turkey in the fight against the PACT so a supply convoy was sent (and sent to the bottom) thereby triggering Italy's entry into the greater war. Italy at the time was still fresh and had intact peacetime war stocks whereas NATO had already been fighting for some time and were feeling the pinch. The move into southern Germany in 1998 was made in concert with their new "allies by default" the Pact - not really an alliance, more an "enemy of my enemy" thing and working together at the time was mutually beneficial.

Its an RPG game that started in the 80's. And is currently in its 4th edition today. Google is very useful.

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@@mr.mentalproblems9445 Thanks.

T:FL is garbage and incompatible.

dies irae

@@shadowstorm4722 Thank you

At that point, the war was basically "over". However, no one was left alive and willing to reinstitute civilian authority and demobilize the armies. The armies themselves, what was left of them, essentially stopped listening to orders.

soo that means that you were born at the start of the war

China had no comparable aircraft or tanks or artillery compared to Soviet Union at that time. Not even the attack helicopters. And flat terrain = heaven for stronger better tanks. Just see what Abrams did in Iraq. Now imagine T-80 against the Type 59 and Type 88 tanks

@@baseddepartment285 That is true, but the massive size would probably slow the advance.

@@dorito_crusador5858 tell that to the Iraqis. We all know how enemy with 3 generations behind in technology on flat terrain went out. With 1 : 12 kill ratio

@@baseddepartment285 Northern China has extreme terrain which would slow the russians down, but the casualties on the Chinese side would be cray cray

​@@dorito_crusador5858 What if the soviets simply gathered more troops, before the war started, as a preparation. It's also possible that the chinese built a defensive line from the yellow sea to the sino-mongol border (going through peking) and than waited to see, which soft spots the soviets have, in order to target them in an counteroffensive.

Mfw the first round of nukes on Poland already destroyed any chance of me being alive right now

​@@christhefirstnah you'd be born but as a mutant like Metro exodus

@@Genocideforbeginners is it a good type of mutation like super strength?

@@christhefirst play the game and you might find out

Haha funny Heaven on earth/Hell on earth ideology

Almost gave me a heart attack

I credited Threads, and The Day After, the two fictional works I used for footage in the comments of the post I made to the Twilight: 2000 subreddit when I first posted this video. You can see that here: www.reddit.com/r/Twilight2000/comments/r0wh4u/made_this_for_my_group_of_players_1e_game_not/ I was not expecting the YT algorithm to suddenly start blowing this video up for whatever reason. I apologize, and have since added credit to those two works and their creators in this video description. Were you also aware that Threads has been available for free on RU-vid, licensed by a verified channel? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5Srqyd8B9gE.html

Wow, you really don't know the background of this do you......