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What accounts for our polarized public life, and how can we begin to heal it? Political philosopher Michael Sandel offers a surprising answer: those who have flourished need to look in the mirror. He explores how "meritocratic hubris" leads many to believe their success is their own doing and to look down on those who haven't made it, provoking resentment and inflaming the divide between "winners" and "losers" in the new economy. Hear why we need to reconsider the meaning of success and recognize the role of luck in order to create a less rancorous, more generous civic life.
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Комментарии : 1,8 тыс.   
@vikrambhandolkar
@vikrambhandolkar 3 года назад
The most kind hearted intellectual I have come across. I am not even a legal professional but I watched all his Harvard lecture series.
@bhuvangoyal5271
@bhuvangoyal5271 3 года назад
Saaaaaaame!! He's just soo good!!
@itodoisrael9010
@itodoisrael9010 3 года назад
Same. The lecture series on justice right?
@vikrambhandolkar
@vikrambhandolkar 3 года назад
@@itodoisrael9010 yes
@TeaParty1776
@TeaParty1776 3 года назад
>kind hearted The black mass of the Crucifixion as moral ideal, a viciously immoral attack on mans life as moral ideal.
@brandonemerick6744
@brandonemerick6744 3 года назад
It was a very heartfelt talk indeed!
@yapper58
@yapper58 3 года назад
I have a brother who is literally a rocket scientist. He has a PH.D. from Princeton. My father owned a small sawmill. My brother has nothing but contempt for manual labor and today still espouses the idea that the "smart people" (him) should decide how things should be done and the less educated should sit down and shut up, even though our father became quite wealthy and enjoyed physical labor (making things) his whole life. I started stacking lumber and driving a forklift when I was 14 years old. I still work in the lumber business as an inspector (even though I have my B.A. in Sociology), which is a physically intensive form of work for a 62 year old. My brother believes I am dirt poor (I am not) and incapable of any other work even though my I.Q. tested close to his in school and I ranked in the top 10% nationally in my class. He is convinced he is socially, morally, and intellectually superior to his family. I respect anyone on my crew who do the work that is required of them. It is hard work and I don't try to make it worse for them by demanding the dangerous or impossible.
@andybaldman
@andybaldman 3 года назад
Your brother is a douche. And I know many people like him. They are afraid of real work.
@onikin
@onikin 2 года назад
@@earthcitizen57 I do not think you were the most biased and misinformed in that conversation. But you handled it very well.
@gregorjerman973
@gregorjerman973 2 года назад
Someday the Intellectuals will hire robot Ai as their equals and Hard working people will consider animals as their own equals.
@selwynr
@selwynr 2 года назад
Sounds like you're a natural socialist. My hat off to you.
@The_Original_Hybrid
@The_Original_Hybrid 2 года назад
Your brother is correct.
@ASLUHLUHCE
@ASLUHLUHCE 3 года назад
This reminds me of Warren Buffett talking about how he was very lucky to be born at just the right time, in just the right place, and as a man with right skin colour, so that his skills and interests happened just what was right to make him fabulously wealthy and successful, and that if he lived thousands of years ago, he would've probably been eaten by a lion.
@JuVe_546
@JuVe_546 3 года назад
Everyone using Warren Buffet as some sort of spiritual leader is part of the problem
@rogercamel
@rogercamel 3 года назад
@Michael Enquist It's a hypothetical and not meant to be taken too literally. It's not really meant to mean "what if I was someone else" but more like "what if I was switched at birth with someone in different circumstances" (even if a time machine is required). Yes you'd still grow up as essentially a different person, but you would likely retain some of your traits and you wouldn't be the same as the person you replaced. It's just a thought experiment to convey how much of your success you can attribute to yourself and how much to your circumstances. The dividing line between those two things of course can be a bit fuzzy. In the end it's an exercise in empathy. "Lucky" does have connotations because it has two meanings. In this case it's helpful to use the synonym "fortunate" which doesn't.
@herisaputra1303
@herisaputra1303 3 года назад
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@wayando
@wayando 3 года назад
@@JuVe_546 Warren Buffet has won the current "game" ... So it's advisable to learn afew things from him. The alternative is to change the system, and that is alot, alot harder.
@jameslasso1690
@jameslasso1690 3 года назад
Ya I’m sure if warren buffet had been born with more “swarthy “ complexion he would invested not so wisely.
@Vnifit
@Vnifit 3 года назад
This is one of the most fantastic TED talks I have seen in a long time. Dignity of work is at the center of each of our ego's and the suggestion that those who don't go to college are ill-fated to work at McDonalds is part of such considerable divison. The sentiment that working at McDonalds is inherently a bad thing strips those who work there of their dignity and consequently their purpose. Without a feeling of purpose and belonging, people cannot be cohesive and communities begin to fray. Not everyone can be doctors, engineers, and laywers. There is dignity in every job and we need to acknowledge and thank those who do the required work that helps us all.
@charlesaway
@charlesaway 3 года назад
Absolutely. I very much agree with the concept that there should be dignity in every job; we as a society need to do a better 'job' of recognizing that. I also agree that there are jobs that serve an essential role in society, and people deserve respect and recognition for what they do. I think I diverge in the concept of remuneration for jobs based on their essential nature, however, because there are other factors to consider such as the skill specialization, education and training required to perform those duties. Access to that training and education should probably be expanded, but a doctor who requires 7 years of education and medical college or a master carpenter with extensive trade knowledge and experience can probably work at a grocery store, deliver food (some probably do!), or perform other 'essential' tasks, while the reverse is probably not true. Do people deserve a living wage in exchange for their effective contributions to society? Absolutely. However, their rates of pay should include multiple factors such as ease of performing the function, geographic cost of living factors, etc., in addition to determining whether they are essential. Regards.
@beegood1215
@beegood1215 3 года назад
All full time jobs should be required to provide a living wage and medical and pension benefits. There are some qualities of socialism that make a society better. Too many jobs are temporary and not leading to anything permanent.
@Vnifit
@Vnifit 3 года назад
​@Jorge Morando I don't think that was what Bee Good was saying. They were expressing that there are many qualities of socialism that really work alongside a capitalist society. Looking to Canada, Europe, and Scandinavia we can see that a combination of both works wonders for improving peoples lives. Through healthcare and welfare, to childcare and public schools, the attitude of socialism is of 'to care for thy neighbor'. There are no countries that do well long-term under pure capitalism, it is raw and vicious and puts people over profits. Socialism puts people above all, but lacks the ability to give motivation to progress society. A health mix of both is what makes a country great to live in, one that cares of people and provides them the motivation to give back.
@moonmunster
@moonmunster 3 года назад
@@Vnifit perfect comment
@Objectivityiskey
@Objectivityiskey 3 года назад
"This is one of the most fantastic TED talks I have seen in a long time. Dignity of work is at the center of each of our ego's and the suggestion that those who don't go to college are ill-fated to work at McDonalds is part of such considerable divison." -------There's nothing wrong with getting your start at McDonalds. If you end up working there for a number of years and haven't moved into management, then something wrong. McDonalds is an entry level job or first job, not a head of household job. "The sentiment that working at McDonalds is inherently a bad thing strips those who work there of their dignity and consequently their purpose." --------It is bad if you haven't moved into management. "Without a feeling of purpose and belonging, people cannot be cohesive and communities begin to fray." --------This has nothing to do with working at McDonalds in an entry level position at 40 years old. McDonalds is a transitional job for adults and a starter job for the youth. "Not everyone can be doctors, engineers, and laywers." -------True, but adults shouldn't be making excuses for not acquiring a specialized skill set and moving out of an entry level job into an adult job. "There is dignity in every job and we need to acknowledge and thank those who do the required work that helps us all." ------This is true and false for the reasons I stated above. Every job is valuable, but it's the Individual and the time spent that modifies the Individuals dignity while doing the job.
@overshot8331
@overshot8331 3 года назад
Dignity of Labour. Important to keep in mind.
@Nelgia247
@Nelgia247 2 года назад
@@user-is6ux3sj2t true, most labourers demand more than what they can offer.
@karleells8603
@karleells8603 2 года назад
labour is worthless without structure and management.
@livery955
@livery955 2 года назад
@@karleells8603 Same is true vice versa, except managers need laborers infinitely more than laborers need managers.
@natashapang335
@natashapang335 2 года назад
I watch your video 12 years ago, that time are looking very young, now search you here. I feel how time flies
@taylorkim2918
@taylorkim2918 3 года назад
Awesome clip. I'm having a moment of utter realisation. How lucky I am that I can just comfortably sit down on the chair and listen to his wise words
@pelado9293
@pelado9293 3 года назад
I'm currently pooping
@benjaminr8961
@benjaminr8961 3 года назад
He is far from wise. He is a dirty commie.
@meghanbliss2356
@meghanbliss2356 Год назад
Wise? He is terribly misinformed and condescending
@HonestlyHolistic
@HonestlyHolistic Год назад
​@@meghanbliss2356please explain
@andrewthomas695
@andrewthomas695 Год назад
@@meghanbliss2356 How so?
@abdirevandio1687
@abdirevandio1687 3 года назад
Hearing this is like a fresh breeze flowing through my anxious heart
@rigira
@rigira 3 года назад
@ASD How wasn’t he listening?
@CyberPsyLen
@CyberPsyLen 3 года назад
hearing this scares me... it's a cold wind blowing...
@nescius2
@nescius2 3 года назад
@ASD do you have more to say than this dismissive nothing?
@nescius2
@nescius2 3 года назад
Ronald Reagan.. look who's talking about stupid :D
@nescius2
@nescius2 3 года назад
@Ronald Reagan thanks for expanding your argument, it's ..less bad now (to me): by dumb, I think you mean impractical, but dumb doesn't mean that - you can be practical and dumb business owner.. or totally impractical, yet intelligent academic.. and he is talking about morality - being ought rather than is - i wonder how you can argue it being ignorant..
@MaymunaSaeed
@MaymunaSaeed Год назад
professor Sandel has profoundly influenced me- the harvard lectures and the way the way he perceives things has left me in awe. massive respect for him. May he live a long, healthy life. it hurts to see him grow old :(
@l.1273
@l.1273 5 месяцев назад
I too have been very affected by him. And yes, his body is aging, but he is only growing wiser. If we are fortunate, he will grow more respected which would indicate others recognize his wisdom and that recognition, when cumulative, may have an effect on social discourse and relations; toward the better.
@chrisduplessis4501
@chrisduplessis4501 2 года назад
this guy is very sharp! he says all of this without looking at notes, amazing
@pradeepkumarvishwakarma1624
My all time favourite. I wanna meet him and take a bow.
@lt.columbo5919
@lt.columbo5919 2 года назад
Professor Sandel is one of the most astute academics of our time...Although I have not met him...he has become a very significant mentor in my life...and has allowed me to experience Harvard, through his lecture series. Thank you, Sir.
@lucaslimal3
@lucaslimal3 2 года назад
I disagree with 90% of what this man says and still respect him deeply. Thank you mister Sandel, it is important that we talk about this.
@jumpstart55million
@jumpstart55million 2 года назад
What do you disagree with?
@lucaslimal3
@lucaslimal3 2 года назад
@@jumpstart55million I think his whole ideia on meritocracy is different from mine. I think meritocracy comes about what you did with what you got. He thinks, and that is his critique, that meritocracy is a score bar that all should surpass. Those who do not are loosers. I know many ppl who think like that. They think that if you do not have a car, or a house, or clothes and gadgets, you are a loser. I do not think this is what meritocracy is about. For me, if you are getting better in life you are exerting your merit. The ideia of finding merit as some kind of a tiranny is counter productive in my opinion. Because it is by looking to get better, by competing and try to do more with less that we, humans, innovate and come up with solution to varius problems. To deny that is to create what we are seeing more and more nowadays. Ppl taking things for granted, saying that government or a privileged group should supply for them. They will not, you must seek to improve through your actions.
2 года назад
@@lucaslimal3 Another thing everyone seems to ignore about merit is that it is not a universal measurement. Merit is given by someone to some other person for any particular activity or thing it values, someone that has been given merit in one activity do no nessesarily is meritocratical in another. These people attack the system rethorically or verbally but all the same apply meritocratic rules in their lives. People want things done in a "right" or "pleasant" way for them, theyll give merit to the ones providing that way they crave. I assume Mr Sandel works with people whose efficience in their jobs help him be better too. He hired them assigning merit to their cappability of doing that job.
@IbrahimKhan-sh2bg
@IbrahimKhan-sh2bg 3 года назад
I am a business student but this gentlemen made me fall in love with political philosophy. It's hard to see him grow old.
@aniksamiurrahman6365
@aniksamiurrahman6365 3 года назад
Congratulation. You just found some great PR material.
@itodoisrael9010
@itodoisrael9010 3 года назад
His series on justice
@nahtan7925
@nahtan7925 Год назад
Very same
@andrewthomas695
@andrewthomas695 Год назад
Growing old is a good thing. Not everybody gets to. Don't feel bad for him. If you are lucky, you shall also get to grow old.
@jezbelga9437
@jezbelga9437 Год назад
I hope this man never dies lol; it's hard to see him getting old.
@deeb3272
@deeb3272 3 года назад
Been watching old videos of Prof.Sandel earlier and wished there is a new one. My thoughts came true! Thanks Ted!
@1elt
@1elt 3 года назад
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@homesweet9537
@homesweet9537 3 года назад
hello wtf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)))))(((((((((((((((:
@jyang9852
@jyang9852 Год назад
Same here! Wish for more books and videos from Professor Sandel!
@sari-sari
@sari-sari 3 года назад
Indeed! Humanity rules.There is nothing wrong with earning a bachelor's, masters or doctorate and the like. "Never look down on anybody unless you are helping them up." by Jesse Jackson. We live borrowed lives.
@10sno27
@10sno27 3 года назад
Incredibly moving and healing. The talk on Sam Harris’ podcast also excellent.
@benjaminr8961
@benjaminr8961 3 года назад
Its toxic crap.
@badmaevictor
@badmaevictor 7 месяцев назад
If there is no free will, this is all quite understandable
@RextheRebel
@RextheRebel 6 месяцев назад
There is no free will.
@FedericoLov
@FedericoLov 3 года назад
Every Sandel video is a pearl of wisdom. I wish he made more
@ThePariskat
@ThePariskat 3 года назад
I've only just discovered him this week after the article 'The Politics of Pretension'. I'm going to read The Meritocracy Trap. (And yes there is something really soothing about him!).
@Kashiku
@Kashiku 3 года назад
The background sounds of the birds embellishes everything
@karleells8603
@karleells8603 2 года назад
Nothing from the left is songs and birds when you implement these ideas. everything falls apart
@rickguerrero2282
@rickguerrero2282 3 года назад
That was a great video. I just started reading “The Meritocracy Trap”, and this video sums it up very well.
@rickguerrero2282
@rickguerrero2282 3 года назад
@Ronald Reagan Have you read the book?
@rickguerrero2282
@rickguerrero2282 3 года назад
@Ronald Reagan for starters, the dude who made the video did NOT write “The Meritocracy Trap”.
@davruck1
@davruck1 2 года назад
@Ronald Reagan so LeBron James is superior to you? Good to know. You’ve finally admitted your inferiority.
@karleells8603
@karleells8603 2 года назад
Hmmm lets think. you dont want meritocracy so i wonder if you would want a doctor working on you only because he had to be one of the "diversity hires" rather than on his merit? Yeah. this ideology falls apart under the most basic tests in the real world.
@rickguerrero2282
@rickguerrero2282 2 года назад
Unfortunately, that is not the point of the book, “The Tyranny of Merit”.
@someshbaidya907
@someshbaidya907 2 года назад
So if you are successful you are lucky, if you are unsuccessful you'r unlucky - that's an extreme point of view, to say the least.
@DarkMoonDroid
@DarkMoonDroid 3 года назад
Bless you, Sir! So glad DAVOS listened to you! What a surprise that was!!
@Constantin678
@Constantin678 3 года назад
I admire even looking at him. So thoughtful sincere and frank
@linlicui4438
@linlicui4438 3 года назад
Me too, I’m glad to listen to him
@Constantin678
@Constantin678 3 года назад
@Ronald Reagan I don’t agree with everything , I guess there is no single point of view to everything
@Constantin678
@Constantin678 3 года назад
@Ronald Reagan I guess we shouldn’t just judge one’s opinion. We may agree or disagree, partly, partly I agree, if I haven’t got enough finance to go to Harvard, I will certainly miss something
@karleells8603
@karleells8603 2 года назад
Too bad his ideas are built on false assumptions and misguided statistics.
@tgkprog
@tgkprog 3 года назад
A new ted every other day is good. Equality is important, but isnt success a mix, that is always there. Its always a mix of capability, chance and whether you actually try...
@iincisif8599
@iincisif8599 3 года назад
it's a matter of chance, success is a matter of chance.
@cla99009
@cla99009 3 года назад
Anybody who's actually studied it knows that success (at least in the Western Capitalist sense) is more a function of effort and perseverance than of talent and luck.
@ettorefagioli1012
@ettorefagioli1012 3 года назад
If you're interested go check out the last Veritasium Video on this topic. this could clarify many things! Have a good day
@unsorted1138
@unsorted1138 15 дней назад
I re-watch this video several times a year. It's a great summary of his excellent book.
@loungejay8555
@loungejay8555 3 года назад
I listened to this from start to finish, and my god, it was like a punch in the face. Total wake up call.
@itouchtheskyslowlifeitaly
@itouchtheskyslowlifeitaly 3 года назад
I love this talk. Thank you so much for talking about this topic.
@Gaooo16
@Gaooo16 3 года назад
I really love who he quotes and bringing it full circle.
@morganalo5100
@morganalo5100 3 года назад
Bravo three times over! I watched this TED talks 5 times and I think I may watch it again and again! What he said is the truth at all!
@continuouslylearning6152
@continuouslylearning6152 2 года назад
Maybe if you watch it 5 more times you'll be sufficiently brainwashed
@srajagopal39
@srajagopal39 19 дней назад
The change that is needed is the change in attitude of the people and nothing to do with meritocracy.
@evolvedcopper2205
@evolvedcopper2205 3 года назад
I was quite misled by the applause at the beginning thinking it was a talk given to a crowd. Starting to miss those
@kentmg79
@kentmg79 3 года назад
Circumstances at birth certainly play a roll, but I also have found that for myself, and for most people who do not inherit their wealth, the words of Samuel Goldwyn ring true: "The harder I work, the luckier I get."
@christofthedead
@christofthedead Год назад
post hoc ergo propter hoc nice fallacy bro
@prashantkumarkapadia1536
@prashantkumarkapadia1536 2 года назад
Extremely thanks for compelling me to thinks the other aspects for life.
@jannmikoingelrabagogamingc6012
OMG! I can't believe this amazing professor is still alive after watching his "Justice: What's the Right Thing To Do" Harvard lecture series years ago, really! I am ever so gladful that we still have him alive~
@Dhtdhrtv
@Dhtdhrtv 3 года назад
I barely watch TED. But this is really recommendable. I could see more than 95% of similarity between Sandell's idea and mine and this very close similarity makes me feel sure and proud of myself.
@nescius2
@nescius2 3 года назад
I think that the above argument is garbage, nothing personal: there is just no argument.
@itsdrunkshadow
@itsdrunkshadow 2 года назад
@@user-is6ux3sj2t "if you don't like it, leave" logic does not make the situation any better - it's only a radical nationalism approach imo. If one is truly considerate and thoughtful of the society then one should find means of making it better and fair. You said, money does not define personal worth and it's true - but we're talking about relativity. Relative poverty leads to sense of deprivation and confusion of social order, even if someone may not have trouble sustaining basic life. It's not just about money and jealousy, it's more about not being able to earn for what one did, which means that not 'everyone got what they deserved'. Your opinion is what could be justified in terms of bad utilitarianism, which many people including rawls has criticised, since it's just unfair. The lower class won't accept the fact that the rich owns 99 percent of the wealth for sure - that's what this man is talking about. The problem of meritocracy that justifies inequality (caused by luck, family background, etc). If our society was a caste system then yours would make sense; such jealousy should not happen, because they're destined to be poor, and the rich be rich. But the modern society isn't. It is ran by an ideology that everyone is born same and the chances are the same, even though it's virtually not. Being poor attributes to the poor. And they are upset, since they did not get what they deserved. Sandel does not directly argues socialism nor redistribution either. He is suggesting that we seek means of getting people what they deserve; making justice. The left, the democrats that you may hate are rather quite criticised in his book, the tyranny of merit.
@andfoundout
@andfoundout Год назад
@@nescius2 How can you not see from the pandemic that "essential workers" ARE actually the most essential workers in society, everything else relies on them, so they deserve a living wage.
@nescius2
@nescius2 Год назад
@@andfoundout ...how are you able to read what i wrote and then respond with that? .. have you even read it?
@andfoundout
@andfoundout Год назад
@@ronaldreagan3086 So your family only loves you because you work and make money? You only want your friends to be alive because they have jobs? You only love your kids because they will, one day, work? Your value is totally defined by what you do for a living? Having some professions be paid more than others to reflect the value of *highly* skilled work makes sense. But how can you possibly justify not paying people enough to live on, even though they work full time hours? There's demand, the demand is being met, but you don't want them to be able to live, even though they're working full time.
@melaniaoc
@melaniaoc Год назад
I think it is v dangerous to blame "merit" in general. We do not want to encourage lack of merit, but instead we need to re-educate ourselves about what merit really is.
@ronaldreagan-ik6hz
@ronaldreagan-ik6hz Год назад
Yes. Liberals love to sell victimhood
@catsymousie7611
@catsymousie7611 3 года назад
What a beautiful thought!
@CJusticeHappen21
@CJusticeHappen21 3 года назад
The dog at the front of the pack forgets that he's not the only one pulling a sled.
@duodot
@duodot 3 года назад
Huh, that's an apt metaphor.
@richardb7854
@richardb7854 3 года назад
but who is at the front of the pack? the CEO or the manual workers? both consider themselves essential to the business functioning and know little to nothing about the work done by the other 🤷‍♂️ it's very apt metaphor, but can apply in so many different ways as to be equally vague and confusing.
@CJusticeHappen21
@CJusticeHappen21 3 года назад
@@richardb7854 You forget, or perhaps you don't know...the dogs are pulling a sled. A sled is put there by a driver, who rides the sled while the dogs do the pulling. The front dog might have more power than the dogs behind it, but it's still a dog pulling it's Master. The dogs starring at the hindquarters of the dog in front of them often forget the man behind them, the one who rations the food and the one who cracks the whip.
@DegreesOfThree
@DegreesOfThree 3 года назад
Is it the dog that gets the sled from point A to B, or is it the brain of the man steering?
@CJusticeHappen21
@CJusticeHappen21 3 года назад
@@DegreesOfThree Both. The man goes nowhere without the dogs, and the dogs go everywhere without the man.
@gaberouse3351
@gaberouse3351 3 года назад
This is extremely important right now.
@ShikiraPressley
@ShikiraPressley Год назад
What a man and what a brilliant ethical conscience that should be taught in schools/colleges world-wide over. What is most remarkable about Sandel is that he "subscribes to a certain version of communitarianism (although he is uncomfortable with the label), and in this vein he is perhaps best known for his critique of John Rawls's A Theory of Justice. Rawls's argument depends on the assumption of the veil of ignorance, which Sandel argues commits Rawls to a view of people as "unencumbered selves". His opinions are 100% accurate and absoloutely defy the soci-economic, political and moral stance that so many wealthy people detatch themselves from the very reality they selfishly indulge in a fantastical self-appointed universe. 👍👏👍👏👍👏
@FarbotBurunetNia
@FarbotBurunetNia 3 года назад
Thank you.
@GreedApe
@GreedApe 3 года назад
As with all things, moderation is key. Thinking that everything you own and are is the result of your own merits and nothing else is a mistake. Believing that everyone who made it big is the result of the talents they were born with and luck is a mistake too. People who were very blessed with their upbringing and physical condition will oftentimes lean towards the former, while those who had a rough start to life will lean towards the latter. Both extremes dont solve any problems, but generate a fair share of them in their own way.
@DegreesOfThree
@DegreesOfThree 3 года назад
If you think there's some kind of injustice going on, then you can spend your own money to rectify it. Otherwise, you have no right to interfere in the labor market between an employee that wants a job and an employer that has a job to give.
@selwynr
@selwynr 2 года назад
No, in some things moderation is not key. Moderate fascism, anybody?
@codacreator6162
@codacreator6162 Год назад
Talent and luck? No. Opportunity is only as good as one’s ability AND desire to take advantage of it - both of which are heavily impacted by circumstances. What passes me off is the lack of acknowledgment by the meritocracy of their good fortune coupled with their quick and destructive tendency to blame. Failure is a many-faceted demon. But the consequences of failure need not include destitution, the sacrifice of dignity, or shame. Period. But that’s how we’re set up right now. Moderation has nothing to do with it. The common good has been supplanted by Me First.
@adamkumpmusic
@adamkumpmusic Год назад
This comment reminds me a lot of some of the main premises of the book “the psychology of money.” Great point and I totally agree with you.
@franciscojavierhernandezp1685
@franciscojavierhernandezp1685 3 года назад
The main issue of this statement refers that the salary is not defined by the importance of your job, rather it is unfortunately defined by the law of offer and demand (a basic economical rule that has defined all societies during the entire human history). Therefore, there are no chances to change this distribution only by a philosophical public decision or wish, in special when resources are scarce (despite that we agree that these good wishes sound fair, but they are unfortunately unpractical). That is, there will be always someone that will be able to do the same job by a lower salary when you talk about of a not qualified job that is well paid, i.e., a job that you don't need great skills, therefore, anyone can do it (if you increase the salary you will have a massive demand for that position). In contrast, if you have a company and you decide to duplicate salaries, it is very likely that your company will be not profitable with time and your company will be disappeared with time because of the natural market competition. Unfortunately, the rule that defines the economy does not match with social wishes. We still live in a society that resources are scarce, therefore, the salary is basically defined as the minimum payment that someone will afford to pay you by your services and skills. For example, if humans invent a robot that can cure people better than doctors, there will not demand to pay for human medical treatments. How can you change social behavior just with good wishes?. Everyone agrees that everyone should get a better salary, but the reasonable question is How can you do it?. I agree that the world is absolutely unfair for most people and there is a lot of injustices about wealthy distribution and opportunities. I agree that only a small percentage of the population has real opportunities in life, however, we are in an age of the history that people have more opportunities than in the entire history of humanity. Noting that people that live in developing countries have still lower chances that someone that lives in the USA. How are you going to balance it (with good wishes?). The solution is not only to point the problem out.
@calebnewton_
@calebnewton_ 3 года назад
Another thing about the system we see around us is taking risk into account. The more risk you take on personally the more you will be profitable if the venture is profitable. That's part of how we reward success in a meritocratic free market.
@bellablackmist5033
@bellablackmist5033 3 года назад
Well, such a thing could be effected by attitude actually. At least to a point. With the current political climate it's highly unlikely, but a combination of laws that prioritize locally found employment, material sourcing, ECT, and a public attitude that prioritizes the fact that the whole point of working to afford one's life and not necessarily to contribute to their employer (how the american economy is designed to work), not to mention enforcing anti monopolistic law, we could, in theory, solve this issue to a satisfactory extent. I however believe our commerce and our government have become too intertwined for that (via the iron triangle and whatnot) to work well now, since the iron triangle kind of cuts public interest out of the picture. I however think this ted talk was more about being kind to each other than actually fixing a physical imbalance in our system, though I'd prefer to talk about how to solve things much more. 😅
@Wojtecher
@Wojtecher 3 года назад
The answer is legislation, and In a democratic society public opinion equals law. Yes, if allowed to do so, purely profit oriented businesses will trend towards the lowest wages possible, but they don't need to be allowed to do so. The ideal form of government is not capitalism, shown by the lack of any successful capitalist economies unless you use extremely loose definitions.
@WillOfTheWeb
@WillOfTheWeb 3 года назад
You're logic is basically saying 'Well that's the way it works and always has worked'. The problem is that the entire system is broken from top to bottom.
@ivanandreevich8568
@ivanandreevich8568 3 года назад
Learn some economics.
@bbt305
@bbt305 3 года назад
Best Ted talk in a long long time! Def of the year! Important, but simple, concise and to the point!
@Dean_Beezer
@Dean_Beezer 2 года назад
Absolutely profound on every level!!!
@SuperAtheist
@SuperAtheist 3 года назад
Earnings are not the same as winnings .
@karleells8603
@karleells8603 2 года назад
Earnings are worth more than the redistribution of earnings. Sandel is an idiot.
@jimmyliu4614
@jimmyliu4614 3 года назад
Thanks Michael. We need trust, more than ever.
@wadafik
@wadafik 3 года назад
Eye-opening.
@mediatorjawad
@mediatorjawad 25 дней назад
A lot of what Sandel talks applies so much to India.
@h497554725
@h497554725 3 года назад
Harvard Justice lecture brings me here
@bwritest
@bwritest 3 года назад
Same
@shashwatsharma2596
@shashwatsharma2596 3 года назад
One thing to remember, If you win, remember the role of luck and good fortune If you lose, work harder(do what you can with what you have)
@joanam3070
@joanam3070 3 года назад
And never forget that you could have been one of those who are "less fortunate" (this is the right term I think), so give a hand, even a small help is enough. We all need our good samaritan. Those that are successful also needed it.
@jake_runs_the_world
@jake_runs_the_world 3 года назад
hahah baman you still gonna cry "merit" and focus on reservations rather than caste discrimination
@shashwatsharma2596
@shashwatsharma2596 3 года назад
@@jake_runs_the_world What?
@littlesometin
@littlesometin 3 года назад
If you lose, look for the reason you lost and if there is one, organize with other people who are losing to change the rules for a fair game.
@chrisstory5328
@chrisstory5328 3 года назад
Work is no more dignified than the end to which one works. If you can't win with ease and grace, consider playing a game better suited to your proclivities.
@abhishalsharma1628
@abhishalsharma1628 11 месяцев назад
Reconcilable with my thoughts
@iqraa4u951
@iqraa4u951 3 года назад
I hope there us more material of this kind to raise the awareness of the people about it
@kandice458
@kandice458 3 года назад
watching your Harvard series and you're becoming one of my favorite people in this planet.
@soumyavijayannp1964
@soumyavijayannp1964 3 года назад
😸😸 yess.. He is my favourite too..
@benjaminr8961
@benjaminr8961 3 года назад
Right up there with Stalin and Mao?
@jworthe
@jworthe 3 года назад
Everyone talks about the importance of a college degree, yet almost no one mentions that not a degrees will provide opportunities. Universities are happy to take the money of those following their dreams. But don't expect there to be high demand in your dream field.
@continuouslylearning6152
@continuouslylearning6152 2 года назад
College graduates come out with this sense if entitlement like because they went to college they're owed something.
@johnchornyTheOnly
@johnchornyTheOnly 2 года назад
Sense and sensibilities
@bluesque9687
@bluesque9687 8 месяцев назад
Michael Sandel, I feel enlightened listening to you, learning from your talks and lectures, and I sometimes wonder, how did such a distinguished professor at an elite university develop such a generous spirit!! Your wisdom ranks way higher than us!! Is it wisdom, or is it your blessed innate character?
@guidoghirardi2985
@guidoghirardi2985 3 года назад
Powerful analysis. Merit is for sure a major factor and one should be proud of success, BUT using it as an excuse to just don't take into account the other factors and look down on people who have their struggles in life is for sure one of the roots of today's political conflict. Many people feel unheard and discarded... this whole myth that the poor are simply "lazy" is so low resolution that really makes you wonder if the upper class super-achievers actually dont want to deal with some uncomfortable truths.
@Shazistic
@Shazistic 3 года назад
Every Heart Has A Pain .. Only The Way Of Expression Is Different .. Some Hide It In Eyes While Some Hide In Their Smile. -The Shades
@claritamerlos3769
@claritamerlos3769 Год назад
Great !! You Sir Is the best teacher for new generation thankyou .. God bless you and God bless USA 🇺🇸😇😎♥️
@sakshamdangi9410
@sakshamdangi9410 2 года назад
3:33 Dr Sandel There is a particular reason why we say that change is the only constant. It is necessary for every human to upgrade within time. For instance: In India, about 50-60 yrs ago, Stenography or short hand writing was in wide demand. Most people who are in their 70s and 80s in have taken a course it. However, one does not need them now owing to presence of voice recorders now even present in a smartphone. Hence I would like know the reason behind why upgrading within time is being villainized by you. Thank you
@bravelace
@bravelace 3 года назад
I love Michael Sandel. His class on ethics is off the hook!
@kirstinstrand6292
@kirstinstrand6292 3 года назад
Sandel is a Rare human.
@vvlist
@vvlist 3 года назад
Thank you Michael. The world needed your talk.
@brennanwn
@brennanwn 3 года назад
I KNOW great advice
@1elt
@1elt 3 года назад
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@johnlim1270
@johnlim1270 2 года назад
Great thought by a great thinker
@moeadel75
@moeadel75 2 года назад
Amazing! Thank you, sir!
@edmond4005
@edmond4005 3 года назад
This talk is great.
@1elt
@1elt 3 года назад
as his others talks..
@leonardu6094
@leonardu6094 3 года назад
Economists and Philosophers that love critiquing the idea of meritocracy without addressing the problem of Genetics and just how much of a role they play in our lives, are really doing their audience a disservice.
@Objectivityiskey
@Objectivityiskey 3 года назад
If you have no clue about reality and are very naive.
@nescius2
@nescius2 3 года назад
@@leonardu6094 do you really have an argument or just pulling your shirt? do you really want to argue for inferiority of people based on genetics? i hope you have a *very good evidence..* is what you call yourself only your genes?
@leonardu6094
@leonardu6094 3 года назад
@@nescius2 "do you really want to argue for inferiority of people based on genetics?" "is what you call yourself only your genes?" Lmao leftists really are a delusional bunch. Homeboy really just misconstrued my statement. No response. Go get some coffee bro and take a break from the internet.
@AndroidCovenant
@AndroidCovenant 3 года назад
Hey I saw him on Rising!!
@jayashreej9931
@jayashreej9931 3 года назад
I love watching ted talks ...
@Lovetoall14
@Lovetoall14 Год назад
He always had the answers!
@MoMo-iz4gn
@MoMo-iz4gn 3 года назад
Korean medical school students should watch this.
@sungryongpark
@sungryongpark 3 года назад
Sure. Meritocratic doctors in south korea are insisting that they would not attend national doctor examination if government doesn’t go back form the policy to enlarge quantity of doctors. They are meritocratic group dangerous for patients to give their body to them to be cured. It’s really shameful.
@yoshi9358
@yoshi9358 3 года назад
@@sungryongpark Isnt more trained doctors better for everyone ? Except maybe other doctors
@mattblack8225
@mattblack8225 3 года назад
Just found out about this guy through a university assignment and wow! Its great to hear an academic reminding us of the importance of simple human decency at times like these! brilliant.
@continuouslylearning6152
@continuouslylearning6152 2 года назад
you university students and your idiotic ideas of what "simple human decency" is and thinking everything offensive is "hate speech"
@johnconnors4508
@johnconnors4508 3 года назад
Great topic and great speaker on the subject! Thank you this video!
@jamescolahan9023
@jamescolahan9023 3 года назад
This is the truth for our entire world culture today.
@alexbingham8222
@alexbingham8222 3 года назад
Sandel claimed that workers such as sanitation workers ought to be paid more because they are equally as important as a doctor or a ceo but the reason those positions get paid more is bc there are less ppl that r capable of working those professions. It’s supply and demand.
@INoticeTooMuch1
@INoticeTooMuch1 3 года назад
“Capable of working those professions” Exactly.
@mieloper1942
@mieloper1942 3 года назад
Difference between the intelligent and the wise
@aylbdrmadison1051
@aylbdrmadison1051 3 года назад
Being intelligent just means someone has a good memory, nothing more.
@Chiungalla79
@Chiungalla79 3 года назад
@@aylbdrmadison1051 It's also the ability to think faster, more diverse and deeper. Sadly, without proper education, it in no way guarantees less errors in thinking.
@billlong9313
@billlong9313 3 года назад
@@aylbdrmadison1051 One's intelligence is their capacity to use what they learn to deal effectively with new situations. With practice, just about anyone can develop and extend this capacity. WIsdom has more to do with having exceptionally prudent judgment.
@DaveE99
@DaveE99 3 года назад
Aylbdr Madison they are good at complex processing, but I wouldn’t say it means they are more right in many areas of life.
@Objectivityiskey
@Objectivityiskey 3 года назад
Michale Sandel is neither. He's a Collectivist fool.
@dsclips900
@dsclips900 3 года назад
Thank you so much my beloved Michael. This is a very necessary work in our times. The ideas that you present are not empathetic or empathy driven in a sense as might be understood, but rather philosophically driven, or I would say philosophically necessary given the flawed principles. What I want to say, is that "Being in others's shoes" is not a form of empathy, but rather a philosophical position that is necessary thus being true (I don't have to discuss the fact value dichotomy here). I am going to read the book, and I am very excited about it.
@densiooo
@densiooo 3 года назад
Very nice talk. Thank you for the reminder to be humble and appreciative of our good luck.
@yesimkhanh9932
@yesimkhanh9932 2 года назад
@Ronald Reagan could you please elaborate your statement, I couldn't get what you meant
@DiogoVKersting
@DiogoVKersting 3 года назад
There's a great book on the matter called The Case Against Education (Caplan). The argument is that the reason so many low-skill jobs are requiring college, is due to a something called Credential Inflation. Diplomas are mostly about "signaling", and not really about what you actually learn in University (Courses like Engineering, which have "real" value by the work market for the learned material are the exception, not the rule). Education is already extremely wasteful due to extreme interventions of government on the Education market (such as loans which would never exist in a free market).
@duodot
@duodot 3 года назад
Hmm, true. So you're saying education has become more like a filter, a currency needed to get a job, because "everyone" is getting it?
@DiogoVKersting
@DiogoVKersting 3 года назад
​@@duodot I think it'd be better if you looked at the information directly from the source (Bryan Caplan), as he can explain better than I can. But basically if all you're doing is "signaling" that you score high in intelligence, conscientiousness and conformity to a potential employer, the actual number of years studied doesn't really matter, as long as most of your peers also study for a similar period. Without "virtually free" loans, the pricing system would incentive people to have less credentials in number of years. As a hypothetical example, imagine the number of people graduating from uni each year is way down... Someone hiring a waiter would look for good high school grades, and not demand a university degree. And those that do graduate will be more likely to actually work in the field he studied. People are still going to find ways of "signaling", but those are going to be way less resource-intensive (i.e. wasteful). The title The Case Against Education, implies that we could have very similar, if not identical worker productivity even if we made enormous cuts in government spending/subsidies in education. In fact, due to the reduction of resources "wasted" in education, one could argue society would end MORE productive.
@duodot
@duodot 3 года назад
@@DiogoVKersting Mm, right. I guess the employers can afford to be picky when the whole pool is overqualified. That being said, I don't think cutting spending on education is the answer, although I see your point. More efficient use of the allocated funds, sure, but that's just a result of the school existing mainly to create a mass of mediocrity and not support the bright and gifted. But the complexity of the education required to function in today's society is surely greater than it was 50 years ago, so thus the increased education kinda makes sense. But still. Not everyone needs, or rather benefits from, higher education. I'll check out your source, thank you.
@1elt
@1elt 3 года назад
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@DiogoVKersting
@DiogoVKersting 3 года назад
@@duodot Yeah, that's exactly it. The worst part is that if employers are not "picky" (i.e. selecting the best "signalers" they can afford), there's a good chance they'll end up with employees with lower average "productivity". That said, I wonder if at some point, being too overqualified might start to negatively affect motivation and therefore productivity.
@mileskeller5244
@mileskeller5244 2 года назад
Professor sandel is my favorite contemporary philosopher. This is such a heartfelt plee for us as a society to have intelligent socratic debate so as to make progressive changes. Beautifully worded professor.
@continuouslylearning6152
@continuouslylearning6152 2 года назад
What a bunch of rhetorical nonsense
@mileskeller5244
@mileskeller5244 2 года назад
@@continuouslylearning6152 what part of that do you disagree with?
@Jay-xh9dl
@Jay-xh9dl 2 года назад
@@continuouslylearning6152 Pray tell.
@ronaldreagan-ik6hz
@ronaldreagan-ik6hz Год назад
Nothing progressive is working in the USA. We need the 100% opposite of progressive policies to help everyone
@renzcruzmabalatan2225
@renzcruzmabalatan2225 Год назад
thank you for making me realized how entitled and privileged i am acting, God bless Sir, more wisdom to impart please if you may.
@Tactical_DZ
@Tactical_DZ Год назад
Great wisdom. 👍
@TheLastWanderingBard
@TheLastWanderingBard 3 года назад
True meritocracy is not a tyranny. It's a fair chance for everybody to contribute. Those who have an issue with it are either those who believe that one group of people is not as capable of contributing as another when given a fair chance (in which case, who's the tyrant now?), or those who just don't want to contribute yet want to be given whatever they desire. Any other talking points one would muster against a meritocracy is simply trying to posit that a real meritocracy does not exist, and that is intrinsically a flaw of the ideology, in which case I would levy the exact same criticism against socialism. How many times have we seen socialism and communism not only fail, but lead to some of the worst human rights atrocities across the globe? And yet you get people still swearing by it by saying things like "well they didn't employ our particular brand, which will totally work". In which case, ditto for meritocracy. Also, as an additional comment, I'd like to say I don't appreciate Ted becoming so overtly political over the last year. I haven't paid much attention to them in my sub feed, but given that I am A) not American; B) not living in America; and C) fairly politically disengaged/independent, I don't see the value in staying subbed to a channel that seems to be little more than a political reactionary to whatever is happening in the States right now. I can't even remember the last time I found a Ted video to actually be genuine, so I look forward to not seeing them clog my subscriptions hereafter.
@dot73
@dot73 3 года назад
This man is an extraordinary human. We need nothing but decision makers like him.
@jamesbrown99991
@jamesbrown99991 3 года назад
This is how you get communism.
@jamesbrown99991
@jamesbrown99991 3 года назад
@Michael Enquist I'm pretty sure that wages differ in all those countries depending on level of skill, education, etc. You could say that people are paid differently according to "merit", and market demand.
@abhifootball2671
@abhifootball2671 2 года назад
Man just an unemployed passout from India. I don't know how we will change this meritocracy and how we will bring the most important value that we are lacking in our current fast paced world of humility, but I can confirm to the fact that his Justice series of Harvard was equal to my enlightening. It is like knowing the secrets of everything that is happening around us. I hope whoever reads this, watch those 10_12 videos. That's the most important thing that has happened in my life
@osks
@osks 3 года назад
A truly brilliant exposition!
@sabrinaduarte6018
@sabrinaduarte6018 3 года назад
Sensacional!!!!
@THE1stBRAINinTOWN
@THE1stBRAINinTOWN 3 года назад
Very important message for americans. Some european countries already have a similar culture to what is described as necessary in the video, and it does work out well for them.
@continuouslylearning6152
@continuouslylearning6152 2 года назад
You current way of life WILL fail within 10-15 years. I promise you.
@user-fp4dr1ne7z
@user-fp4dr1ne7z 3 года назад
Amen brother. You are absolutely right
@YodadeCai
@YodadeCai 2 года назад
¡Gracias por los subtítulos en español!
@andreadaerice
@andreadaerice 3 года назад
Excellent, thank you so very much! Everyone in the U.S. needs this reality check.
@rosagapi
@rosagapi 3 года назад
You sir, are Absolutely right
@user-ov3vx9fg2w
@user-ov3vx9fg2w 3 года назад
I'm a Korean student who studies philosophy in high school. I'm very fascinated by professor Sandel's philosophy. I think he is the most prominent political-philosopher in the world.
@thealtruistmc5020
@thealtruistmc5020 3 года назад
i wish i had philosophy classes at my school.
@user-ov3vx9fg2w
@user-ov3vx9fg2w 3 года назад
@@thealtruistmc5020 But in Korean school, I can't learn philosophy properly. Because Korean Edu enforces answers that they want. I can't get a good score if I don't give them the answers they want, regardless of my opinion.
@Bisquick
@Bisquick 3 года назад
Kaaaaaaaaaaaant. Have you read Marx? Purely philosophically, he's pretty great (dialectical materialism in particular). Also check out Slavoj Zizek if you haven't already.
@user-ov3vx9fg2w
@user-ov3vx9fg2w 3 года назад
@@Bisquick Yes, I'm learning Marx at the social ideology part. He is absolutely genius. (But, in Korea we don't learn Marx heavily cause he is communist) +Thanks for recommending Slavoj Zizek.
@MrBudaguda
@MrBudaguda 3 года назад
Thank you
@damilolaagbaje6324
@damilolaagbaje6324 3 года назад
I love Michael Sandell so much😍😍😍, his words are so pure
@vidhiagrawal3
@vidhiagrawal3 3 года назад
A moral perspective into work and labour. Great!!
@karleells8603
@karleells8603 2 года назад
work is based on merit, not morality. OH my god.
@klajdihoxha9784
@klajdihoxha9784 3 года назад
Inspiring! Thank you for bringing awareness!
@nenengalma
@nenengalma 3 года назад
Thanks sharing it helps
@richardsagala3186
@richardsagala3186 3 года назад
Humility a virtue indeed
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