If you think your opponents are such fish that (1) they only have overpairs, and (2) they never fold overpairs, but you bluff them anyway, then you’re the fish.
Caller is one of those guys who always thinks he can “outplay” or “outsmart” other players.. and usually proceeds to punt off his stack sooner or later.. like so 🤣
Given his characterization of the opponents and how they never fold overpairs, this seems like a prime spot to just call in position and try and get there.. tons of outs against KK/QQ and not doing terrible against AA. This is where you just try to draw cheap then put pressure when you hit and the pot is already bloated. Raising the flop is total fancy play syndrome.
This is THE example of the Dunning-Kruger effect. Caller knows it all lol "I am calling to make a hand, he squeezes Qq KK AA only, they are married to their overpair" decides to raise flop with bottom pair and flush draw lol
All you guys are ragging on his play, but Bart actually basically agreed with the flop raise. Could this hand have been played a little better given the villain and the table's description, sure. The caller also agreed with Bart about the turn shove maybe not being ideal. He was open to learning, but just wanted to explain his thinking at the time of the hand. This channel is for those of us loking to improve our game. The comments I see on here are far more arrogant than anything the caller said.
Caller - are you calling to have a discussion with Bart as your poker-equal? Or are you calling to try to learn and get advice? It sure sounds like the prior. Let Bart speak!
What this Guy should say is, "Once the Oneliner came and my flush didn't, I Spazzed Out and went all in. I would love to hear the Villain's take on this hand.
I want to call in so bad. And say so I’m in this really great game with a real putz. I have pocket QQ in the blind. I 3 bet the field to 250. ( normally would raise bigger , but I got a guy who will make post flop mistakes )Get two callers. Flop comes 10s9s8c…… etc
Caller: preflop - “in this game these players are bad and will call down until the end with one-pair holdings.” Caller: on turn - “I’m trying to get one-pair holdings to fold by shoving.”
“The guy only opens AQ+, so I call with A8” lol I get you’ll get some “implied odds” but I’d think even more reverse implied odds unless the guy is outrageously bad. Seems like a clear fold
Didn't this guy say that people "get married" to pocket pairs, then proceeds to raise them because "I have more straights and two pairs and can fold them off of AA/KK, blah, blah. blah, blah"? Seems like the hero identified a weakness in the villain's game, then decided to implement the worst strategy possible to exploit it.
Right? Dude contradicts himself - pretty sure he said they can play for stacks if anyone has a big pocket pair - then he jams on the turn with a draw lol 🤡
I hear this a lot from callers. They say the Villan can't fold, then proceed to try and bet them off a hand when they know they are behind. If he thought he had KK at the least, where is he going??
Yeah I never try to bluff whales off of big pocket pair ranges. They absolutely get married and probably won't fold KK here, especially with a gutshot straight draw to go with their over pair.
As is the case with nearly every single hand someone sends me, the best answer is “fold pre.” This guy is so tight he’s not even raising AK off. Therefore I shall call and spring my trap with A8. 😳
Yea I’m highly suspicious about the edge that Mr. Pro thinks he has in his so called “honey hole”game lol! Double flatted A 8 against a tight player😂 Funny to hear people who think they’re better than they are.
He said they call off way too light aswell so why raise flop? Why shove turn ? I thought these “low poker IQ” fish will never fold 🤣😂 Seems likes a nauseating knobhead
Guys like this are prevalent in my area. Do well in the 1/3 and 2/5 streets because they have some knowledge and the hubris spins up to 5/10. Unfortunately, the opponents at those stakes have two advantages to his type: they’re either playing with fun money that they won’t miss if they stack off, or are consummate pros that have done it for a while and burned off their arrogance through introspection or experience. Not even digging the caller, I know I felt like I was hot shit when I moved up and had to take some serious hits to realize I still have a lot to learn.
Well there’s a reason why a TAG straightforward style was espoused in poker coaching back then…against clueless calling stations it’s easy to implement and works.
That flop raise seems so bad. His entire setup is that the guys are idiots who stack off with overpairs and his range is entirely overpairs. The scary turn cards are still going to be trivially easy to bluff them off on even if you just flat flop.
I don't generally like raising the flop against bad players who won't fold overpairs. It is exploitable, but I don't expect that to matter against bad players.
I love these type of guys at my table. They categorize their opponents based off of nonsense. I’ve seen it countless times, the “low poker IQ rec player” outplaying the guy with the huge ego and it’s so satisfying to watch. Live poker is a social game. There’s a good chance that those “fish” at this guys table were doing what I would’ve done. Play solid, TAG and wait for the ‘GTO wizard’ to overplay and overthink his marginal hand and bust him.
Says players in game get married to pocket pairs. He then puts villian on queens, kings, or aces. And then proceeds to rip it trying to get aces, kings, or queens to fold😂 .
What's crazy is even thinking he can gatekeep this game. If it's a casino, for like 98% of the country anybody who he's afraid of already knows about the game. How many great regs playing these stakes haven't checked out every casino they're willing to drive to?
Besides all the obvious reasons to make fun of this caller, did anyone else notice he said i hate 89 suited bc if i get it in vs AK im hating life?!? Why would u hate life with 2 pair vs no pair??
Im so confused. He said his opponents are calling stations and will never fold over pairs. He also said he thinks his opponent has an over pair. However, he tries to bluff him off an over pair? Did i hear this correctly? Haha
Lol. I knew when this caller spent 5 minutes over selling how bad the other players are that he was going to put lots of money in pre with a horrible hand vs someone with a highly condensed ranged, in a bad position. And then he gave the preflop action I wasn’t disappointed. Who gonna break it to this guy that he’s as fishy as everyone else in the game? To the caller, I have a juicy 5/10 full of low IQ businessmen in it and we’d love to have you come take all our money. You have an open invitation. Free food and free massage.
Man this Hero is so fucking dense. He polarizes on the turn when anyone with equity like QQ is more likely to call since they can boat up, AND people might level themselves into calling thinking you're trying to blow them off the hand because a shove doesn't look valuey. Better to pick a better sizing, then wait for a brick river OR your spade, THEN jam.
This is one of the more dubious hands I have seen on this show. Bluffing a "never folds" player. To think of an opponent in terms of always and never is suspect enough. Add to that doing the oppositr of your read, and idk what he expected to happen
To the point re: the turn shove vs a smaller turn bet - Not only can the villain improve if he's behind, he also only has to face one tough decision. Players hate making hard decisions. He's probably relieved that the hero shoved.
Guys says stacks are 5k. 250 preflop and then 900 on flop would leave effective stacks of 3850. But then guy corrects Bart, by saying stacks are exactly 3600 lol.
QQ and JJ are just both so likely. Also truly drippy players just can't fold AA. I'm just speaking objectively when I say I think the Hero in this hand played it as poorly as you could. He created the least amount of advantage possible. The whole point it the whale will stack off for way too much way too lightly.
Oh Jesus, the biggest issue with amateur poker players is they think everybody else is a fish and they know what they are doing. Here is a dude that trashes the competition then literally does everything wrong to get stacked. This is the kind of play a drunk degen makes rather than just bets it all on pai gow hands or 22 black. Your advice to the guy should have been to stop and become self aware rather than put down the play of the competition.
I like the flop raise, but hate the turn jam. Q nails are opponents range. I was thinking Q or J no spade are the worst turns to bluff sometimes K. So me must X on those card. If we have are opponents range so condensed why take such a marginal spot against them when we will have way better spots against these types of players?
Yooo wtf...I hope the caller doesnt read these comments...Nice to see all these poker pros in here being so supportive lmao ...chill ppl trust me all you geniuses are not as good as you think you are either.
The guy spent 5 minutes making sure everyone knew just how bad his opponents are, then went on to play one of the dumbest hands in the dumbest way I’ve ever seen. He deserves to be put in line.
He’s afraid people gunna come eat him not that they gunna catch his fish😂 for a “thinking” player this one is rough. He describes them as bad then tries to bluff them with the worst line when 1/2 of his likely hands are top set🤦♂️ and you don’t try to bluff non thinking players.. he’s thinking levels above when he said himself they are bad yet expects them to have the same logic as what he’s trying to portray? Makes no sense to me
Are fish even folding AA/KK here? Hero has the As, so V can't be in there with AsKs. It seems to me that when fish recognize an aggro opponent, they get even looser with their calls, so we have to bluff them even less. Better to take a free card on the turn, hope to catch a 5/4/3/2 of spades, and stack all of V's AA/KK/QQ/JJ holdings.
It depends on what the caller thinks at this particular moment in the hand, the villain literally changed personality during the hand according to the caller.
It could be better titled but I think he’s referring to the jam on the turn looking more like a bluff (which it is) rather than value, hence giving his hand away.
We know why caller didn't want to say where he plays because we would all be there to take his money...lol. Every other comment he made didn't make sense or contradicted something he just said.
It's really funny watching call ins where the caller talks like they're a sharp with a giant edge over a bunch of fish, only to get completely bodied in the comments about how bad and illogical his thought process is.
I do not believe for a second this guy is a winning player, nor is this place his "honey pot" hes pry had a few good sessions and has fooled himself into thinking he understands and has an edge.
Caller is using skewed logic. First, he says his opponent will never fold an over-pair, even if the jack of spades were to hit the turn, and then he shoves the turn anyway and says he's trying to fold out AA or Kk???
This guy definitely shouldn’t be criticizing people or belittling especially he is one. The way how he play his hand. Probably too embarrassed to give out the name by remaining anonymous!!!
There is probably a little too much criticism on the caller because of his arrogance; And it was his arrogance that allowed him to to call with his hand in between preflop, which I think is the great sin of the hand. Everyone is getting on him for bluffing, but if he isn't gonna try and take it away from his opponent's on that board , with his equity, literally when is he ever??
If his opponent gets married to hands like AA and KK then people are seriously doubting villain will fold there. If villain has KK he is probably just happy no ace is on the board. And he could have QQ. Why try to take it away (even on that board) if taking it away basically means you’re punting? Villain has higher equity here. Remember the plan PF was to call, try to hit and then get value. Not to call and punt off to a station because you try to bluff him.
