Hey Skeej, you can compact this a bit by reducing the size of the lava farm. A L9 boiler fed with lava will be self-sufficient with 12 cauldrons. They make slightly more than is consumed and will eventually make a surplus.
I just use a lot and store it in one mega tank! Another option is to fill a pit (slowly) with the excess output. Once it reaches a large enough number (10 thousand iirc), it will produce infinite lava via hose pulley!
I also found that the engine size can be reduced to 4 blocks high as you can't get any more power out of it without blaze cakes. The lava bucket system can also be compacted by placing a brass funnel on the side of the bottom depot, filtering the funnel to only accept empty buckets and then have the mechanical arm grab from the depot. This elimates both of the smart chutes and the other depot. You might think this will lead to an issue where it grabs the bucket before it's filled, but the mechanical arms actually have some pretty smart programming and will only grab the bucket if it has lava in it and at least one of the blaze burners need to be fueled. By compacting the engine size, you save on copper and by compacting the lava bucket system you eliminate the cost of iron from the filter part and reduce the electron tube cost to 1 instead of 2.
To answer your curiosity about lava drip stone. Even though flowing lava produces particles, it will in fact NOT drip lava. It DOES require source blocks to actually reproduce the lava.
@@stailbread1 Not true. a source block of lava is required. If you don't beliefe me: go into a creative world, place a dripstone + cauldren under a flowing source and use the command "/gamerule randomtickspeed 3000". This speed up the random ticks. Default is 3. The cauldren will never fill with lava. Replace the flowing lava with a source block and it will take under 10 seconds (give or take, RANDOMtickspeed ;-) ) to fill the cauldren.
For designs post 19.3, it's nice having the lava conversion flag enabled for further significant reduction in the size of that whole array too. Nice design all around. 💯
Awesome tutorial! Just one suggestion, make it a 6 high fluid tank instead of 5. I'm still learing about Create, so I'm not sure why, but the size and water input goes up drastically by making it a 6 tall fluid tank. I just built 3 connecting and it's pushing 393k su's.
@@skeej_inc their could be a way to make it more compact by giving the blaze burners a straw which would then allow them to take the lava directly out of the pipe instead of having to feed them with buckets but I am unsure of how the design would have to change to make use of the straw which causes the blaze inside the blaze burners to put on a drinking hat as well as I believe also giving the player an achievement for doing so
Just a little thing I wanted to point out, if you really want to maximize the amount of SU you get from this design you can use encased chain drives instead of belts to combine everything. This is because belts consume a small amount of SU to just have them running, wheras encased chain drives do not.
Belts only consume SU in older versions, (0.3 and below i believe) which I’m using the newest update (0.5 Rise and shine update) so this doesn’t affect the design
okay i had to sub just because of the satisfactoory refrence, i may try for a similar build and schematic it for the schematacannon and use that as my primary create powerplant
I'll have to build a few of these at some point. Pretty easy to make all things considered. It's just a lotta lava really but even that should be pretty easy to gather
Love the design as well as the mod. When I made this myself I found that when I set the rotational speed controller to max, it overtaxed the system. If this happens to anyone else set the speed too 200 and it will work again. Getting 147,000 odd out of it.😊
Something I found is that you can use windmills instead of large water wheels to power the boiler. This is mainly useful for those who aren't using the newest version. Although, it does seem to make it less tileable if you're using the windmills.
i built a very horizontally compact engine setup for a server i was playing on (the engines went inside a structure that the base was centered around) and i ended up with a decent self sustaining engine. granted, of course, it will stop if you reset a server, but otherwise it runs indefinitely. its just 4 lvl 4 steam engines powered by lava. It is really tall; i built it partially in a crater from a mod i was playing with. but everything, lava source, water, engines, all fits in about a 9x9 space (excluding vertical height). i cant quite recall how much SU it made but it was in the range of 420,000 SU and served me well enough until i began making larger factories and connected a lot of alternators to power machines from other mods.
Engine size max for L9 is 3x3x4 as you can't get any more power without blaze cakes, about 12 or 16 cauldrons should be enough I think as we get excess as it goes on and I don't think 256 rpm is needed for the arm and pumps, you can find a sweet spot by trying it out in a creative world. Just my suggestion. 😉
I have a 32-boiler/cylinder engine about that size, actually probably smaller, that produces about 500kSU under lava power. Uses addons Create and Create Crafts and Additions. The key is not one big boiler, but many small boilers, all individually supplied with water, and powered directly by lava-fueled blaze burners. It runs the water pumps using auxiliary waterwheels.
With create crafts and additions, you can eliminate the bucket mechanic entirely because the blaze burners can have straws. just pump the lava directly into them. even so this is really cool and I wanna try it to power the andesite alloy maker you made! LOL
Bugger i legit just finished my this morning, was based off your old design but for some reason (aesthetics) i made it a level 9 too. figured it out, app apparently i added to many cauldrons tho. but i can get 2 in one chunk with the lava in the middle.
Hey, awesomd video, its very well done and ive watched some of your other vidoes and found them helpful as i try learn create One question: how would i connect other machines to it? I dont know where id even need to connect them 😅
other machines can be connected with shafts and cogs going from the steam engines on top of the tank :)) just make sure not to connect them to anything from the lower half of the engine
I thought that lava gen with dripstone was a joke but turns its actually a minecraft thing when not modding. But I had to use a Magma Crucible that makes 1 bucket worth of lava from one cobblestone
Thank you so much, this is exactly what im looking for in my world. I have one question, how many SU does to take to run it? I know you are using 5 large water wheels, but im playing a modpack that makes large water wheels extremely expensive, and im trying to figure out a slightly alternate design to get the first module running until I can afford more large water wheels. Esp since it looks like you arent getting the max SU out of them since its just water on top instead of all the way around
@@oPlazmaMC Correct Snoob8, it takes that exact amount of stress to run everything connected. You get the "perfectly stressed" achievement after making that work.
Makes sense (: And, who needs space! (Looks at his small build that has no walking room due to pipes and such… maybe it can go there? Or there?…)@@skeej_inc
I'm playing Create Astral, which has Create version 0.5.0. The large water wheel was introduced in Create version 0.5.1. Is there a way of building this with water wheels instead of large water wheels?
so yes it is common to use water wheels of various sizes to power the water. If you are bothering to build a steam engine why not use another steam engine? I mean a basic passive steam engine has 2048 SU and no fuel requirements. Needs only a single lava or a campfire to heat it. It is also only a 2x2x1. Certainly one should be able to design such a thing.
11:18 To connect the water wheels, you can use either encased chain drives or belts and shafts. Then add a gearbox at the end to connect the water wheels to the rotation speed controller. Using belts and shafts is much cheaper
The steam engines provide the output power. That's what you send out to other machines and contraptions. The speed controller just balances power and speed from the auxiliary water wheels so the pumps and arms can move water and lava. Tapping that auxiliary power for other things may cause the steam engines to shut down for lack of fluids.
If you dont mind adding some addons for create i would highly suggest adding the mod The factory must grow as it adds generators and 1 diesel generator is a lot better than a 2x2 steam engine as it produces around 17k power (the steam engine makes 15k power) and it is also REALLY SMALL especialy the diesel one as you can make a 1x2x3 tiny machine that has 6 diesel generators that conbined make a bit more that 107k power
I really don't understand why you can't just pipe into the blaze burners so dumb honestly have to set up a whole contraption just for it to right click and also put buckets back bruh
Update after several upon several hours I found out another way you can have a deployer poke the mechanical arm which will grab the bucket now the deployer can not can not have a filter on it once the deployer grabs the bucket you can put a chute below it with then you can put on to one belt that another mechanical arm grabs that bucket puts it on the depo the bucket fills with lava and the it will pick it up and the other mechanical arm will right click a blaze burner and it will go forever sounds complicated but was way simpler for me anyway
Using external power - wheels to power engine, quite dissapointing. Crank start up is not that hard to do. You can do ^ shape with dripstone and lava to reduce pipe amount, More sides with water = much more power, you are wasting space with extra wheels tbh, its pointless to tile with these engines, only 1 is ever needed