It's like Fazbear Entertainment wanted someone to murder kids in their establishment and I only say that half jokingly because as time and the lore has gone on I've become less and less convinced the company is just reckless and stupid but instead deliberate and frankly more cruel than even William on his own could ever be.
It was a fun tongue-in-cheek joke for a while, but I think the moment they put electric cables in a jungle gym was the moment they pushed it past the point of absurdity
11:15, this may be a stretch, but I dont think the 'misuse' of the suit is referring to a springlock failure. Instead, I think she's referring to how William used the suits to lure and murder children, instead of entertain them. I get how that doesn't really fit with the 'too dangerous' line, but like you mentioned, Baby is insanely cryptic in SL so who knows. 🤷♂ Additionally, the whole 'not the way it was meant to be used' line could still fit with a springlock failure!!! It's wierd phrasing, but if someone used the suit wrong & didn't listen to the instructional tapes, than they wouldn't be using the suit the way it was meant to be used.
@@ashykins unless it wasn't an accident. Considering what happens at the end of the game with the Scooper, Baby's depraved enough to suspect, possibly correctly, malicious intent in a springlock failure. I doubt that's what happened but it does fit the dialogue.
I was always under the impression that Golden Freddy in FNAF 1 was a pure hallucination (possibly paranormally induced but still a hallucination), one tied more directly to Mike, which is why the model looks so different from FNAF 2's, meanwhile FNAF 2's GF would be a more physical kind of haunting/hallucination (one rooted at least *somewhat* in reality), which is why one can actually see the wear and tear on it
I really doubt that, as seeing that GF appears exactly as he was in FNaF 2, only slightly different. If it was an Hallucination, why not straight up start walking and telling Mike "you killed me! Murderer! Murderer!" since Mike would only see the Golden Bear as Fredbear, therefore he'd see his brother, instead of just "IT'S ME", his actual message. Plus, we see GF looking like that in FNaF 2's post-night cutscenes. I think it's plausible that they upgraded the Spring-Lock suit since then, but only used it on _extreme_ cases rather than just being a hallucination.
I also thought that GF was an hallucination from Michael mixed with his own guilt and the spirit of his younger brother but the physical springlock suit haven't seen in a while, most people say that suit was back in FNAF 3 but could've been a prop made by the owners of Fazbear freights so my guess is that suit is still out there, Afton cannot die until Cassidy releases him (which makes me wonder if this was all part of his plan)
I think you're at least right that the Golden Freddy/Fredbear suit is in the FNAF 2 location for whatever reason, this "withered" version is distinguished from the FNAF 1 version in UCN too by being grouped at the end of the FNAF 2 animatronics. and we know that there was at least one yellow springlock suit "in the back" of this location, "someone used it, now none of them are working right". and Golden Freddy shows up that same night, also the empty suit is in one of the minigames in the FNAF 2 location. it seems like the distinction of saying that the safe rooms were at multiple locations was meant to tell us there's one at the FNAF 1 and 2 locations, and Fredbear's. The Private Room in the SL bunker could also be a different version of a safe room. the Mimic could also be in a sealed-off safe room from a previous location (maybe not FNAF 6 but an older one), since the FNAF 3 tapes say "The safe room is reserved for equipment and or other properties". the old mascot costumes and the Mimic itself, might fit with that.
The fact that UCN Fredbear looks so similar to FNaF1 GF implies that he's the actual suit, but I think his appearance in FNaF1 is more of Michael's hallucination of Fredbear due to his trauma than it actually appearing in his office. GF in FNaF2 is probably a hallucination aswell, since we literally see his head floating in the hallway. That might also explain Shadow Freddy's existence.
So… FNaF2-Cassidy FNaF1-Crying child hallucination from Michael’s perspective? If we go by the theory/Story that MatPat made were Both Cassidy and CC possesed Fredbear
Yes absolutely There's no way Scott planned in Fnaf 1 and 2 that this character Michael who's the killers son would become a purple walking corpse in his game years later because of remnant bs, putting "Odor" Tampering with the animatronics makes so much more sense
Well, of course he didn't plan it, but the general idea tends to be that he retconned it to be Michael. The problem is that that requires SL to happen before FNAF2, and while Scott just might be crazy enough to roll with that, I'm not. Yet. I'm going with Squawks' interpretation from now on.
@@damkylan3 >The problem is that that requires SL to happen before FNAF2 Not necessarily, you can believe Michael is Fritz Smith without thinking he was a literal corpse at the time. The odor thing could either be dismissed as a joke or him getting too close with the classic animatronics.
@Conventionist It also wouldn't make any sense for him to be a corpse at the time as he was most likely still living with William at the time. William doesn't get Springtrapped until '93
13:43 That idea of how all the Funtimes would team up together to isolate one child for Baby to chow down on is really interesting. I always just assumed it happened however, and that each of them was just going on their own to catch kids, and that they just sort of waited for the moment to come when there is only one.
2:27 I think FNAF 2's gameplay is in November based off of the location being open for a few weeks and the paychecks. My interpretation of Phone Guy's "summer job" line is that it's part of an "introductory greeting from the company" that he mentions in FNAF 1. Both the "introductory greeting" and "summer job" lines are said early on in Night 1 and are worded similarly: "Welcome to Freddy Fazbear's Pizza." My theory is that Fazbear Entertainment just assumed that their new and improved location would be open until the summer, where they'd be hiring more employees and expecting more business. It ties into the narrative of the FNAF 2 location as a whole, Fazbear Entertainment assumes they can open a new location with no problems, but due to their recklessness and greed, everything goes wrong (DCI, Bite of 87) within a few weeks, and they have to close way before the summer. It also kinda gives Phone Guy some character development. In FNAF 2, he seems to have some faith in the company (even if by this point they are manipulating him) and says the "introductory greeting" normally, but in FNAF 1, he has no faith left in it and is more nonchalant about the greeting.
I’m going to have to say this a lot but my discord kinda cracked this. In Fnaf 1 phone guy states that the company takes 90 days to process things like reports and inquiries after incidents so they have time to clean and bleach places. Guess what’s 90 days after summer when Jeremy worked? November.
@@siresquawksWould that also mean FNAF1 takes place in summer? The steam page does also refer to that game as a summer job despite again being in November
@@syweb2 I mean not so much if the entire company is basically on hold sorting the murders out, and Jeremy could be a murder suspect given his job's proximity to the killings.
The idea of dragging a dangerous animatronic around isn’t really all that far fetched. There’s a legal concept called an attractive nuisance, which is where something by its very existence can lead to someone getting hurt, so as long as it exists it is a legal liability for its owner. For example an abandoned building is an attractive nuisance, if someone trespasses onto that property and gets hurt the owner may be sued in a personal injury case under this concept. The Freddy suit is similar, if random teenagers came across it in an abandoned building or some unmonitored storage unit it might cause an injury, in fact it’s obviously dangerous in the best of times, left alone somewhere it’s basically a trap. So they had two options: either destroy the Fredbear suit, or keep it with them as they moved around. Destroying it seems like a logical choice, but I can think of a few reasons not to like perhaps they’re hoping the whole company becomes famous and the original suite becomes very valuable as a collector’s item, or perhaps there is just some sentimental value associated with it.I always figured it was the first spring lock suit made. Objectively it was the wrong call, but it’s not implausible that someone would make it.
I feel like the reason why they keep trying to lug around fredbear or golden freddy is that its sort of a rebranding of fredbear like "oh if we recolour his hat or bowtie we could rename him and nobody would know?" and i feel like the same reason they dont do the same for springbonnie cause they know its tied to the mci. (but thats just my theory)
Safe room is just probably a room that has been forgotten, hence why the suits were in the building. And the only reason why Golden freddy was not able to move because he was damaged and his renewd form is just his ghost form.
You know if they could program the robots not to enter a certain room they should've just programmed them never to enter the Security Office so that Phone Guy would never have to die.
I never actually noticed the picture of Golden Freddy in FNaF 2 until you zoomed in on it. The fact he’s being shown and being shown as an attraction the kids visiting Freddy’s enjoy feels like a MASSIVE detail we’ve just overlooked for years.
@@novustalks7525 Is it though? The withered animatronics get their suits redone after FNaF 2 for the new location and Golden CLEARLY gets his suit to be refurbished as well to look like Freddy which means they were at least planning to use him or something. One does not simply regain an ear for no reason.
@@novustalks7525 I dont think thats ever been actually confirmed though, just people saying "since its a ghost it can do what it wants" which is almost as lazy as dream theory...
Also, another thing, from a very quick google search, a fake wall can be taken down with about 15-20 pounds of force. This means Springtrap is either really weak at this point or Fazbear Entertainment actually spent quite of bit of money sealing William away (actually impossible because it's fazbear's)
To be fair, the animatronics aren't meant to be able to be in the safe room, they can't recognize it. Since part of the plot is that Springbonnie is in animatronic mode (which is why William is basically dragged towards the BB laugh) so it could be that the animatronic AI is basically softlocked because it's in a room that doesn't exist on it's map, like how the classic 4 "err" trying to go inside. This also explains why he becomes actionable only once leaving.
I have something to say about the Golden Freddy sequence First: Golden Freddy is an apparition, he isn't in the locations physically, as he is able to detach his head and use it as an attack, in FNAF 1 he can't be stopped with doors. Second: Given how short FNAF 2 seemed to be open I think the posters might have been taken from a previous location, since a lot of posters use the old designs of Freddy's band, designs kids shouldn't know about like Bonnie. Interesting vid tho, I feel like the Saferooms are a relic of the old era of FNAF, since now we have bigger issues like copycat endos and Bonnie's terminal parts n service condition.
Then why are the drawings labeled with "NEW Freddy Fazbears"? Because that old location was the _first,_ labeling it as "new" wouldn't make sense as there is no older Freddy's to compare it to.
I do feel like actually the Steel wool era is trying to retcon away anything supernatural. Its all ai going wrong and propaganda games making light of serial murder. So the Canon timeline as of SB is William serialkills kids, and dies. Maybe in a fire. Fazbear hiered indie gamedev to make ghost story games about it. Mimic does mimic things and nothing is possesed by anything. And there is Also a non zero chance.
I mean, most of the drawings seem to be of the "pre-withers" (most noticeable with chica), but then there's drawings of bb and an already mangled "funtime foxy"
I agree that this doesn't make any sense. In regards to William using a de-comissioned suit in the MCI: In the Silver Eyes, William brought the Fredbear suit to the location, changed into it, caused a distraction on the stage, and then lured the kids away. No one except Charlie recognized that the Freddy suit used was yellow, no one else saw him, or had ever heard of a yellow bear, except her. So he could very well use a suit he stole himself and left at the location, then sneaked out in normal clothes.
William's progression with the springlock failure being at CBPW is also not that weird. The Funtimes can reasonably be built before the MCI. You do a little jokey over-exaggeration of how stupid William would be to act like this, but I think with just a different mindset it can make a lot of sense. The timeline would look something like this: 1-William kills Charlie, The Puppet begins doing Puppet-like things 2-William decides to kill more children and have them possess more robots 3-William builds the Funtimes to do that. It goes wrong and he's forced to cancel CBPW. 4-William decides to take matters into his own hands and kill some kids. 5-He's caught and loses his position in the company. 6-He kills some more kids when Freddy's reopens. 7-Freddy's eventually closes, for real this time. 8-With FE being largely out of the picture, William is able to start CBEAR and repurpose the Funtimes. 9-William brings some remnant to experiment on the Funtimes or whatever his remnant schemes were. 10-William gets Springtrapped. I don't see an issue with this line of thought. You bring up that it'd odd for Baby to be doing nothing for a long time, but that's sorta the point. Sister Location makes it clear that she was abandoned. She's been locked down there for a long time. It's why she's so desperate to escape, why she reminisces on the only time she got to perform on a stage. As for multiple locations being mentioned in FNAF 3's calls and only one sister location: those aren't mutually exclusive. "Sister location" is specifically a different restaurant owned by the same parent company. The multiple locations mentioned by Phone Guy are simply multiple Freddy's locations. So you have two restaurants: Freddy's and Circus Baby's, and Freddy's has multiple establishments.
@@siresquawks It actually makes a little more sense, William would easily have an alibi for the murders because he isn't doing it himself, if he uses the Funtimes before the MCI he can get away with it, the bodies would never be found inside the Funtimes and Circus Baby is only programmed to kill when their are no witnesses, William could be in another location while the Funtimes are collecting Remnant so others could back up his alibi, but after Elizabeth dies he's forced to cancel that plan and commit the murders himself
@@SCP-469 The Puppet was repaired before 1987. Phone Guy's dialogue in FNAF 2 (and Give Gifts Give Life) heavily implies The Puppet was fully functional and in use in the 1983 - 1985 restaurant.
I think the "since 1983" coin is very interesting because in the fnaf 1 phone call phone guy says that the animatronics have been around for 20 years, and if fnaf 1 was in 1993 then they would've had to been built around 1973.
It could be that the company has existed long before and has been making other things keeping buisness but the animatronic's were built decade later which allowed their company become more popular.
8:46 It's possible the reason Fazbear Ent kept dragging the springlock suits around to eventually reuse them as animatronics only. The springlocks suits werent just absurdly dangerous costumes they had fully functioning animatronic modes. This would explain why golden Freddy is repaired alongside the main cast. In fnaf 1 fazbear ent has already had multiple locations close down so they need reuse they're older models. They plan to repair and update the whithereds for use finishing the main cast first and opening the location Afterwards they start working on Fredbear and Spring bonnie almost finishing Fredbear until the MCI happens, closing the place for good.
I think you're overcomplicating the line about the springlock failure. The suit was never used the way it was meant to be used (worn by employees to perform) because it was deemed too dangerous. Baby specifying "not the way it was meant to be used" implies it was used before being deemed too dangerous, but not the right way. So the timeline from that line would be: -suit is used improperly (springlock failure) -springlock suits are deemed too dangerous -springlock suits are retired -since it's now deemed too dangerous, the suit never ends up being used for its intended purpose And "not used the way it was meant to be used" IS the same "as not used properly". That's what properly means: doing something the right way. Improperly literally translates to "not the way it's supposed to be" or "not the way that is to be expected and/or acceptable".
Great video :D Yeah, this is something that has been bothering me for awhile. The Fnaf 3 calls are just really weirdly contradictory, at least if you assume the springlock failure is Springtrap (which I feel like the game implies) and the safe rooms were sealed with him inside them (again, heavily implied). We already know Phone Guy dies before Fnaf 1, so to have him recounting this gets very messy from a timeline perspective. Especially if you try to fit Molten MCI in there. I also kind of feel like Sister Location (all of it, including Elizabeth's death) is heavily implied to happen after Fnaf 1. Silver Eyes puts it there and it looks like the upcoming movie might be as well if Abby is meant to be Elizabeth or a parallel to her. But then that makes the timeline of the springlock suits really weird too. Though I'll say seeing that suit again from Sister Location, I still wonder if it's just straight up Spring Bonnie or a Funtime variation. Because yeah, like you said the game heavily implies some intentional murder was associated with it. Honestly, I kinda feel like Scott just botched the timeline of events here. There are so many moving pieces that it wouldn't surprise me if he somewhat contradicted himself. But if we're NOT assuming that, I think Phone Guy in Fnaf 3 can't be talking about Springtrap. Which is weird. There's ways to make everything work but it's messy as hell.
Nah, the springlock failures definitely happen before the heavy implications of the MCI occurring, namely the moving of Spring Bonnie (which Phone Guy repeats is not safe to wear, so it's already been retired) and the repeated insistences that nobody hang out in the safe room, or, most importantly, bring customers out of the main show area and into the safe room. Which nobody would be doing except William. The timing of the events and Phone Guy being alive suggests that the sealing of the safe rooms had nothing to do with William getting springlocked. Which sucks, because that's the most logical series of events, plot-wise. My personal theory retains the spirit of that idea, though. I think the company ordered the safe rooms to be sealed because an investigation into the MCI was gonna be underway, and the existence of this huge security risk of a secret room, specifically stated to be off all cameras and digital map layouts is a massive lawsuit waiting to happen. Especially if, as I believe, they knew full well that someone was taking children into this area based on the FNAF1 newspaper clippings. So they quickly rush to seal them up (hence why nothing was taken out beforehand), and tell all their employees to not mention them to anybody.
Sliver eyes puts it there but not the games could be a whole different timeline and that could be the case with FNAF movie since we see William using springbonnie suit
Are you guys saying you thought that Fazbear entertainment sealed the room because of of that event, instead of doing anything else with the body? I know the company is always depicted as shady, but that's just goofy.
@@lpfan4491 Well, yeah, it's goofy in the same fashion as, "hey, if the suit malfunctions, just crawl over to that hidden room so you can bleed to death out of sight, mmkay?". FE has always been parodic levels of evil corpo. Plus, one way or another, Springtrap ends up behind a wall at some point lol. So clearly, *someone* walled him off instead of disposing of him, and the only mentioning of it was that the company did indeed seal off the rooms for shady, unspoken reasons. Ofc, then we collectively examined it further and realized the timeline didn't make any sense. So either Scott screwed up, or just shrugged and decided to leave a pretty significant hole in the backstory.
Yeah pretty sure the biggest reason for all of this massive muck in the story was due to the fact that the narrative of FNaF changed over time. I'm fairly certain the plan was just to make a fun game for 1, he added some story for 2, he finished some story for 3 and meant to be done. People criticized him for 3 not being scary enough so he made 4 and intended to end the FNaF 1-4 stories and work on an alternative timeline with new games being released that more closely paralleled that new timeline. I do believe the original plan was for FNaF 1-4 to be a part of the "dream theory" at first, and Sister Location would take the themes and idea from the Purple Guy and combine them with the book series to create a better narrative. BUT THEN he decided that the fanbase wouldn't accept that FNaF 1-4 was a dream so he then tried a variety of ways to make Sister Location tie into FNaF 1-4 when it wasn't originally supposed to. So now we just have a whole massive mess of a timeline where nobody can actually place Sister Location into the timeline correctly.
For what it's worth, I *am* open to the possibility that the location in Sister Location *isn't* the "our sister location" mentioned by the phone guy. If that's all it takes to square the circle (which it probably isn't), then I'd run with that, tbh.
Hilariously I recently had a similar realization about the saferoom, When Does Afton Actually Get Locked In? Because from Phone Dude's night 2 call he was actually sealed in because they needed an architect in order to FIND the saferoom on their second run through of the FNaF 1 location. Since Phone Guy is dead after FNaF 1 if Afton is sealed inside when that phone call was recorded, Follow Me would have had to happen before FNaF 1. But if the door was sealed and Afton opened it in order to do Follow Me, howd it get sealed the second time?
@@siresquawks Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Phone Dude said that he THINKS the place got boarded up or something like that (almost as if that's what he heard from someone else). If that's true (*going off of my memory here so I might be wrong), it's still possible that it was behind a fake wall and that Phone Dude just heard some rumors that were slightly incorrect. It's kind of like that Telephone game, where the word gets misheard and changed the more people spread it around.
4:10 I'm of the opinion that Follow Me happens between 2 and 1, since it happens right before William gets springlocked and trapped in the safe room, and Phone Guy has to be alive to deliver the message about the safe rooms being closed. Plus, the animatronics in Follow Me (namely Freddy and Bonnie) have buttons, a feature only on the Withered models, suggesting that they weren't fully redesigned immediately after being brought to the FNaF 1 location and instead were redesigned/rebuilt after William took them apart and then got locked in the safe room. The location doesn't have to be "totally abandoned, never to be used again" for it to be in that state, as it seems to be the location "FNaF 0"'s pizzeria might have been, and that has been closed for years between its closure and the opening of FNaF 1's pizza place. It could potentially be due for some renovation pre-opening while FazEnt is still bringing in equipment like the animatronics. This paragraph is heavily informed by a video ID's Fantasy made about this subject. 9:45 The tapes don't have to be particularly close together - or at least, the one about sealing the safe room can be recorded long after the others. 15:05 Does it necessarily have to be the _first_ set? If the Toy animatronics were supposedly scrapped (and also probably haunted, given the DCI), why not use _them_ for the Murder Clowns? We only ever really see their shells outside of FNaF 2, so their endos are unaccounted for. 15:20 He never says _the_ sister location, he says _"our_ sister location". It may not seem like much of a distinction, but it still leaves some potential for more than one other location to exist, especially when combined with the line "most other locations, including this one". 16:50 No, Vanny, don't make me into a furry! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUUGHHHHHH!
On the first note we have one of Phone Guy V3's many weird contradictions. He says the saferooms are being sealed with a false wall while Phone dude says it's boarded up ("or something") which like I mentioned in the video with Baby's dialogue leaves frustrating uncertainty. It's possible that William opens the safe room that was already sealed, and then someone after this boards it up. The interpretation you mention also hinges on Phone Guy 1 and 3 being the same person which is kind of ambiguous given the personality/job/knowledge differences between the three appearances. While it is possible the saferooms are sealed more towards the fnaf 1 era this doesn't change much for the video. MoltenDCI versus MCI can be debated it's not important I just used the most commonly accepted variant for the skit. I don't even like the idea that the funtimes are possessed by any prior animatronics scrapped remnant in the first place. "Our sister location" does have some level of leverage, but there's some frustrating semantics that can be argued like "shouldn't he say 'one of our sister locations' or 'a sister location' that makes it messy. "RABBITS? I WANT TO BE BEAR VANNY"
"the bonnie in follow me has buttons" my guy he's Teal colored too, like, closer to toy bonnie color than either withered or fnaf 1 bonnie. In the same game balloon boy is depicted with white and red stripes, in fnaf 4 a spring bonnie head resembles toy bonnie, a popular theory occurred where because the purple guy was usually depicted as lean and skinny, while the go go foxy minigame had him be a shade more magenta than normal and was stockier, people thought purple guy had a partner in crime, (which was half true, just that Henry didn't help the murders.) Foxy is fixed in the follow me minigames- literally not wearing pants at all. The things depicted in the mini-games are not accurate because they are based off Atari sprites. They are inaccurate on purpose. Scott also really liked the button attire thing too, flol.
@@siresquawks I think it's safest to assume that FNaF 3 Phone Guy is the same one as in FNaFs 1 and 2, because Scott has already got someone else to voice Phone Dude, so why make it sound like a previous character we already know about if you are already showing that you can get different voices for different characters?
@@syweb2 Actually, no. Scott _also_ voices Phone Dude. Plus, V3 Phone Guy has a higher voice pitch than FNaF 1 and 2's Phone Guy, and he refers to the Spring Lock suits as Spring Lock suits, not as Yellow Costumes, as FNaF 2's Phone Guy would. I think it's safe to say that V3 Phone Guy is a different character.
9:00 "Are the springlock suits decommissioned or not? Why do they keep taking golden Freddy around with them, and fixing it, if it's a suit you're not supposed to use." This is Fazbear entertainment we are talking about here! They'd do anything to save a quick buck. The springlocks may be "too" "dangerous" to "use" as "suits", but they can still work perfectly fine as animatronics. That was literally the whole point of the springlocks. They could act as a normal animatronic, or the springlocks could spread apart all of the mechanical bits, giving enough space inside to make it functional as a suit. Just because they are no longer allowed to use them as a suit, does not mean that they are completely useless.
Honestly I could explain the whole "Golden Freddy being in the FNaF 1/2 locations" with one simple point: He isn't actually there. If you were to assume that Golden Freddy is the same animatronic as Fredbear, then Fazbear Entertainment would have likely scrapped him, similar to how they dealt with the Toy animatronics. But then this brings up the question of how Cassidy managed to possess a suit that didn't even exist anymore, and honestly that's kind of a plothole considering that the early games led everyone to believe that Golden Freddy is some ghostly entity that isn't really physically there. This is my explanation for why he's in FNaF 1 and 2. Golden Freddy isn't actually there, it's just Cassidy showing up as some kind of phantom or ghost. (It also appears to mimic what the Freddy of that location looks like, but that's probably just because when FNaF 1 came out Scott didn't have the lore planned out.) As for the drawing, it can be assumed that if Golden Freddy is appearing to the security guards (Phone Guy on Night 4, Mike Afton, Jeremy Fitzgerald and Fritz Smith) and also appearing to the other animatronics (SAVETHEM) it would be entirely plausible that at least a handful of children have also seen Golden Freddy.
I was always under the impression that Golden Freddy wasn't a physical animatronic, but rather his spirit(s?) visually taking on that form, that was what explained his design changes for me, at least. But now that you mention he was on the kids' drawings, yeah that's kinda weird.
now that I think about it more, I don't really think that idea of Golden Freddy not being physical mixes that well with the 2 spirits theory that I also usually go with. Huh.
Another oder point is that help wanted goes out of its way to emphasise that fazzbear entertainment goes out of its way to make up reasons to fire people. That line being so emphasized has bothered me for a while now. This strikes me as Scott deliberately addressing that evidence point, since so much of our logic over the years referenced the oder on the firing notices.
I think the thing with golden freddy is that he’s a ghost, not a physical suit. The children’s drawings in fnaf 2 could be some kids seeing the manifestation of golden freddy and not being freaked out because they just think it’s another character
The thing is, (and I'm not sure if this helps or contradicts all this or what, but) as you can see in follow me, the animatronics were the 0 designs, aka fixed withereds. This makes sense, since why would they actually completely redesign them? Well, them getting torn to shreds in follow me. This kinda forces willaim to die before FNAF 1 happens, which can still work with sister location being after if you say mike didn't trust whatever willaim said about sister location, and kept putting it off to look for him in actual restaurants. As an extension of this, Perhaps the reason golden freddy got fixed up in the 1 location was that they wanted extra money from an extra animatronic and fixed them as well when fixing all the other characters, then realized how bad that would be for their image and threw them in the back again?
I feel like when Henry was around. He would tell everyone to seal off all the safe rooms in every location to not be suspicious of his business partner being a one of them.
I actually came to this conclusion recently as well after going back through the lore. I think I can iron out a couple of details that are seemingly illogical, although it's not easy. 1. The Funtimes' Short Run Time: Circus Baby's Pizza World is only open for 1 day, closing down under the pretense of gas leaks, when in reality, Elizabeth Afton was killed. William decides not to continue using them as his own daughter is inside of the most important animatronic, which makes it harder to use it to lure kids. Perhaps no children were actually meant to be killed inside of the Funtimes themselves, and were instead to be relocated and killed elsewhere, but I'm just spitballing. Regardless, William decides he can't use the Funtimes with his daughter trapped inside the main star, so he chooses to do the killings himself, the old fashioned way., leading into the Missing Children's Incident. 2. Golden Freddy at FNAF 2: The victims of the MCI are stuffed into the classic suits at the FNAF 0 location, which featured the characters from the TV show Fredbear and Friends (and Spring Bonnie). After this, FNAF 0 closes and the saferooms are boarded up with the springlock suits inside. However, Golden Freddy is able to leave the saferoom. (In FNAF 1, Golden Freddy is able to enter and leave your room instantaneously with both doors closed without moving, so I guess he can teleport). Why Golden Freddy leaves is probably motivated by the Vengeful Spirit, but idk. The workers who were tasked with moving the animatronics would see Golden Freddy as any other animatronic and take him with them. These classic animatronics were all used for some period of time at the FNAF 2 location. Not only is there a kid's drawing of Golden Freddy in the FNAF 2 office, but there's also one of bonnie that's colored purple instead of the bright blue that we see on Toy Bonnie. These classic animatronics are retired sometime before the gameplay of FNAF 2 and used for scrap parts, including Golden Freddy, which is why we see visible damage to the suit, and why he isn't able to physically move or even stand in FNAF 1 and 2. 3. Golden Freddy at FNAF 1: After FNAF 2 closes, the toy animatronics are retired, and the FNAF 1 location opens with a much lower budget. To cut costs, they reuse the same location as FNAF 0, and bring all of the classic animatronics back, making simple repairs to the cheap fabric costumes. (Since the saferooms were to all be sealed away sometime before FNAF 2, it wouldn't make sense for the FNAF 1 location to have one built in. However, the FNAF 3 minigames deliberately show this to be the case, so it would only make sense that the building was from before the shutdown, hence why I say it's the FNAF 0 location. William would just reopen the room upon his return, as he would probably be familiar with the building's layout, given this is where the MCI originally occurred.) The animatronics are repaired, including Golden Freddy getting a new suit. However, Golden Freddy was never actually able to be functionally repaired, as the springlocks technology was discontinued by this time. Perhaps the endoskeleton in the parts and service room was meant for Golden Freddy, but for some reason or another they never ended up installing it. After FNAF 1 closes from poor business, William breaks in night after night, disassembling the animatronics and taking the scrap back to the Entertainment and Rentals facility where he would create remnant and inject it into the animatronics. On his last night there, he would be springlocked, leading into FNAF 3, then Pizza Sim, Help Wanted, AR, and Security Breach. That's my take at least.
I always believed that the only reason golden freddy was in the fnaf 2 location was because the company still wanted to keep the fredbear suit, to maybe salvage it for parts, or potentially for future occasional use. The reason spring bonnie was sealed and fredbear was not, was because spring bonnie was used by afton to commit the 1985 murders, so it would make sense for the company to no longer want anything to do with spring bonnie after that. However, given that its heavily implied that William used the golden freddy suit to murder the children in the save them minigame, I theorize that the company decided to destroy the suit entirely after this event. Hence, golden freddy is no longer a physical animatronic in fnaf one, and is more likely a projection/hallucination caused by cassidy (and maybe bite victim), who is still haunting the pizzeria. This is evidenced by the fact that Mike can't tamper with his AI, and even explains why Golden freddy isn't in dismantled in follow me, as well as why on the last follow me minigame, we play as the 5th child (cassidy), who at this point is just a disembodied spirit. The fact that we don't see any remains of golden freddy's suit in fnaf 3, even though we see the shells and parts of all the other animatronics, also supports this. Also, I have to note a few things about golden freddy in the first game. He doesn't have a reflection on the camera monitors when he's in your office, and unlike the second game, he crashes your game, similar to other ghost/hallucination characters in the series, like shadow bonnie. So in fnaf 1, the company never fixed golden freddy. Golden freddy in fnaf one is just cassidy's spirit, projecting herself into a form that resembles the fredbear animatronic, and she uses the current freddy as a basis for her manifestation, which is why golden freddy looks like a yellow version the refurbished classic freddy
Yeah there's a lot that's _strange_ with this. Speculation on some of these: • Circus Baby's Entertainment and Renal opens after a Freddy Fazbear's Pizza location closes, but it's debatable whether this also applies to Circus Baby's Pizza World or not. • While Fredbear isn't to be _worn_ anymore, they might still use him in animatronic mode to be cheap. And in FNaF1 the physical animatronic might not actually be present in the location in the first place, given his ghostly nature-we don't see it in Follow Me, after all. • William making the Funtimes only to revert back to killing manually later may be because after Elizabeth's death he decided he needed to keep a tighter grip on events instead of trusting the computers. (Also, the pink Foxy toy in FNaF4 and the breaker room map showing Fredbear's Family Diner may suggest Circus Baby's Pizza World was 1983 instead of 1985, which is... not really better in any way.) • Baby does speak in an odd way sometimes, so "the way it was meant to be used" _could_ be her being weird. • As for why it's not possessed, idk maybe they got the employee out before they died or something. • We don't know that the Funtimes only became possessed after Follow Me. In the novels we see William simply inject a single syringeful of stuff into Funtime Freddy (edit: not to say that the novels prove it happened this way in the games, they just show Remnant CAN work like that), so it's possible that he took spare parts or something (or that he had Michael do it in the Custom Nights, if you believe that he was complicit at any point). None of these are _great_ but it's what we've got, I guess.
17:48 I’m pretty sure that actually is the case because FNAF 3 was the last game originally and Scott didn’t have this in mind. Also I’m pretty sure there are multiple Freddy’s locations in the books.
while this theory is intriguing, you forgot some major things in relation to Circus Baby’s Pizza World: Its not a sister location, its a competitor that was made to capitalize on the void of a freddy’s closure. we know this due to hand unit’s night 1 vent banter and creates several problems if this theory is true.
Could the "sis loc" fnaf 3 calls refer to be fredbears, with fredbears and ffp 0 co-existing for a few months? Then the springlock failure would happen in fredbears (I'm not referring to the bite of '83). So the timeline would be something like this: springlock failure happens at fredbears, the suits get fixed, faz ent bans the use of the suit, bite happens. Only problem is one has to assume that the ban doesn't concern fredbears. However, as its only mascots are springlock suits, the banlift would make a lot of sense, we just don't hear about it (ffp 0 has other characters so they don't rely on the springlock suits).
I've had this idea for a while, regarding the springlock suit in SL. I had the initial thought that it would have been a prototype suit, to test out the capabilities of the springlocks before the Fredbear and Spring Bonnie suits were made. While that aspect might still be true, I'm also beginning to think that when Baby says 'I don't think it was ever used, at least not the way it was meant to be used.', that it means William might have been using the suit for other purposes. I think Afton might have used identical suits to create Remnant. The idea being that after killing a victim, he'd place their body in the suit so that the soul would possess it, then he'd melt down the suits, creating Remnant that he could put into the Funtime Animatronics. I could be wrong, but I feel like it's plausible.
7:50 It's clear (to me) that Will's yellow suit was supposed to be Golden Freddy; why kids draw pictures of him, why he gets moved around, why he gets repaired- but then Spring Bonnie showed up and upended all that. Maybe he uses Spring Bonnie at FNaF 0/1 and Golden Freddy at FNaF 2? Golden Freddy only appears as a spirit in FNaF 1, but we know he was physically at FNaF 2. Spring Bonnie's physically in FNaF 1's safe room, but he's no-where in FNaF 2. I think Will just uses whatever costume's at whichever location.
For the golden freddy being in the drawing that has the "new" one it I can see a few reasons why that might be the case. It could simply be that the springlocks were used very early in the opening, and then they realized for one reason or another. Could also be just a normal costume or just a normal animatronic in that one. The animatronic side could make more sense because of that whole tampering thing and the wires sticking out of the suit (the spirit seems stronger in golden freddy due to just what it appears to just teleport in and out of existence at times, so maybe it has some control over the appearance). Either way this is a great look into the overarching problem, especially since scott didn't have it all planned out at the start, and everyone keeps looking super detailed for clues that might have been changed or just originally not clues that now scott feels needs to be.
Here is my personal headcannon. William didn’t actually mean to kill any of the kids and he’s just really incompetent, causing him to kill them by accident. Then he started looking into remnant, not just because he wanted to be immortal, but because he wanted to bring them back to life. This isn’t out of guilt tho, it’s just a way to try and restore the Freddy’s brand reputation
In the books William tries to kill a character by watching them try not to move so they don’t get spring locked. The suit may have not been used how it was meant to as William might have done this to someone with that suit
Considering Freddy’s is a franchise, it would make sense for there to be multiple restaurants in its heyday open at once. Like Chuck-e-cheese or Showbiz Pizza.
The idea of there just being one somewhat normal freddy's location out there that just ends up getting dragged through the mud because of what william does at the other locations is so funny to me.
11:02 Baby refers to HER old pizzeria. A.k.a Circus Baby Pizza World (remember we are not in Pizza World we are in Entertainment and Rental). And the suit was never used because William left the idea of mascot disguises and animatronic hybrids after his son died because of the jaws of Fredbear.
Does phone guys 'sister location' need to be circus baby's pizza world? its not like fnaf 5 existed when that dialogue was written, it likely meant something else then - at least it would be a reason for things not to quite fit if there was a sneaky retcon
Yeah, but like I said it’d be weird if the game called sister location wasn’t made with that connection in mind. One of the tricky things about theorizing is that Scott does a lot of retroactive connections, saying “oh that thing, that was about this actually” so it’s hard to tell when something is or isn’t a connection, this being a prime example.
I think when Baby says "the way it was meant to be used", that means the way William meant to use it (remember that Baby thinks she's talking to William), and that it was never worn by William because, as we can see during the gameplay of the night, the locks on this suit don't function properly, probably because it was manufactured wrong.
Along with the Fredbear restoration, he has 4 fingers in 1 and 2 despite being meant to be a wearable suit. Couldn't adjust that later like Bonnie's guitar?
The suits are decommissioned golden freddy is just following the location from fnaf 0 to fnaf 1 because 1 if you forgot the crying child still possess the suit till the happiest day ending but I don't think the suit is taken to the sister location area at all
This video is very well made, I'd say very matter of fact & unbiased (mostly) I don't like the implication of you adding molten MCI in with everything else, though It makes more sense to me for the follow me minigame to be where he takes apart the animatronics with the INTENT of doing molten MCI stuff, but because springtrap, he doesn't get to.
interesting video and i do get the "simplest line of thought, no overcomplicating when simple works too" idea of theorising that i think u mean by occams razor thing, but i do have some things that i want to note first is that SL very likely isnt the sister location mentioned, i get that it's an annoying misdirect of a title, but it is still just a misdirect, made to get people to think it was that location before finding out that the title actually refers to the very literal location of mike's sister to add to that, i think it is only logical that there are other freddies locations around. obviously we dont see them in game or story events, as they are simply not relevant to those things and you're only getting shown things that are relevant. if there arent these other locations the games get a LOT weirder, if one restaurant somehow keeps reopening and keeps getting children killed, and somehow has a TV show and a limbillion toys despite that. Also the very corporate tone wouldnt make sense if it was just one small to medium sized restaurant (added to that, the fact that they dont know who the owners/founders are of the brand would be rather odd aswell if its just one place getting reopened and relocated a few times) and lastly, while i do whole heartedly agree that the funtimes were built with nefarious intentions, funtime freddy having a child sized hole in it's stomach CAN be explained, as even glamrock freddy has a child sized hole in its stomach that is actually used for things other than children
Huh. I thought the idea of the "sister location" mentioned in 3 being CBPW was widely considered totally bunk. I do believe that the one mentioned in FNAF 3 is just another Freddy Fazbear's Pizza. The path that led me to that understanding was... complicated, however. lol So, apparently, "sister location" is just an incorrect, or at least very uncommon term. Trying to understand it better from Google seems to be flat out impossible. It just leads back to FNAF, and a post from a FNAF fan explaining the difference between sister location and sister company (which would be the correct term for CBPW). Now, if their explanation is correct, then a "sister location" would simply be another Freddy Fazbear's Pizza at a different location from the one Phone Guy is at. And naturally, Scott at the time of FNAF3 would be using that term without the potential reference to Elizabeth that the actual title had. So I assume it actually is a phrase in business. I mean, for all I know, this random FNAF fan could be BSing on what sister location means. But everything else checks out.
As I say in the video, it's just REALLY unintuitive that the game called sister location, isn't the sister location mentioned in a prior game, and that's kinda the conclusion of the video, like if it is the case this is the timeline, otherwise who fuckin' knows.
@siresquawks Do you think he killed the kids because he didn't get to have a good childhood? So he thought to himself, why should they have a childhood when I couldn't?
@@siresquawks is it that hard to believe SL was a misdirect name, named that way so at first people thought it would be about the previously mentioned sister location, but in reality the name is about the literal location of mike's sister? i get that a red herring is annoying but it's also not unintuitive because it's p obvious that SL isnt the place referred to in that tape, and atleast with FNAF lore it is so far from the most unintuitive lore that it's essentially base level obvious
How's FNAF 2's gameplay taking place during the Summer when the Paycheck clear states that it's in November? I've thought we gave Credence to the fact that the first FNAF 2 phonecall was a pre-recorded message
As I replied to other people on the topic, fnaf 1 states fazbear entertainment takes 90 days to process reports after they're done bleaching and cleaning the premises, since Jeremy is likely a suspect or even just because he was there in general, his paycheck coming 90 days later (November) lines up with the continuity of the first game.
@@siresquawks taking 90 days to process reports shouldn't include paychecks, though. You get your paycheck typically every two weeks but since Jeremy is a new employee his pay week was cut short. This also doesn't really line up with the fact that Jeremy is more than likely the victim of the bite of '87, and even though the victim of said attack is said to be able to live without their frontal lobe, implying that Jeremy survived, him getting a paycheck of all things, three months after he had his face bitten off makes very little sense.
About the whole "Golden Freddy still beeing used". I don't think the drawing can be used to imply that Golden is still active, considering there's also a drawing of classic Freddy, Chica and Bonnie right next to it, and we KNOW that they are kept around only for parts. And also, we never physically see Golden, we only ser allucinations of them, so it's not safe to asume that he looks exactly as he appears. What I mean is, even if Golden has a physical form, we don't know if that physical form is exactly as the allucination form is. As far as we know, Golden's physical form could be on a completely different restaurant and still have a purple bow and hat.
In like 8 years of keeping up with FNAF this was the first time I’ve been fully finally convinced FNAF 2 was a prequel to FNAF 1 because you showed the checks
Considering that we apparently are going to visit not just Sister's location but a carnival that could finally make sense, Michael visited the carnival (most likely Fredbear singing show back in the 70's) then years passed and then he went to SL and finally got scooped where both places are similar yet different. I hope we get some answer in Help wanted 2
Having watched the FNAF movie, I think that what Baby was alluding to about the springlock suit in SL was that it was the actual murder weapon Afton used to kill kids in the MCI. He would've lured them to the back dressed as Spring Bonnie, forced them into that unidentified springlock suit and then minced them (brutal!). I don't ever remember the games otherwise specifying the murder weapon.
I'm gonna throw the idea out there, the suit from SL is a proto suit, some testing went poorly and exposed flaws in the designs, but were covered up to try and produce the golden suits.
I have a weird feeling you are allowed to retcon all the Golden Freddy issues in fnaf 1+2 with it being a "Hallucination" to the nightguard working there. It's specifically a stretch for the poster but hey, it's what keeps me up at night.
The situation surrounding the springlock suits always bothered me ever since their introduction in FNAF3. I guess a lot of it can be explained as Scott not paying much attention to his own timeline, which makes us end up with those oddities. As for Golden Freddy, I always assumed the model we see in-game during 1 and 2 is a ghostly manifestation created by the child spirit, while the actual Fredbear suit they were stuffed in is stored somewhere else. It being able to be tampered with for the custom night could maybe be hand waved as a non-diegetic gameplay element.
I think Golden Freddy in FNaF 1 was more of an apparition. Something else I want to point out is in the children’s drawing shows Golden Freddy having 2 ears. Perhaps a child is drawing what they saw in the past, or maybe Golden Freddy didn’t become withered until recently.
I think a good solution to the SL suit is that William started building the Circus Baby's Pizza World animatronics when the springlock suits were still used, but, by the time the place opened, the failure had already happened, so William was forced not to use it.
i think what you said at the end about the sister location mentioned in the games not being the actual sister location location is right, i think that games name was an intentional misdirect since it was quite literally the "location" of mikes "sister". as for use of the springlock suits and why they would be lugged around places, dont forget that those things can act as fully functioning animatronics on their own. retiring them may just be refering to not using them in wearable suit form vs maybe keeping them in animatronic mode at all times to preform or as spare parts or replacements if one of the main stays breaks
I was always under the impression that the multiple and simultaneous springlock failures and the accident that got the springlock animatronics shutdown was the creation of Shadow Freddy and Bonnie. Two preformers wearing the Fredbear/Golden Freddy and Springbonnie suits get springlocked at the same time. They get removed from the suits but still die, creating the Shadow Animatronics.
Honestly I’m not surprised that there’s a “safe room” of this nature in the pizzeria. William himself would’ve been the person who oversaw the construction of such a thing. He was, after all, a financial manager/owner of the company at one point.
There is still little to no proof that in the game continuity the classic animatronic remnant is in the funtimes, and I really doubt Scott went back to make sure everything in SL was consistent with fnaf 3 and 2
my favorite gfred headcanon is that the actual suit is being moved but has not been repaired; all appearances of him are simply apparitions the spirit conjures. the apparitions take the form of the current freddy in the location. there's very little concrete evidence to support most of this* but i think it's cool so it's what i choose to believe *the only thing supported with actual evidence is the fact that gfred appears as an apparition. consider that he just fades away in fnaf 2 after using mask and creates hallucinations in fnaf 1, i don't think our boy gfred is even capable of moving.
4:19 I was thinking the mini games took place in 1988 (or as soon as they start renovating Freddy's 85 for reopening) for multiple reasons one why do the animatronics have buttons and Foxy is in prime condition (perhaps they ran out of money to repair them after they were vandalized in the mini game) and 2 why would you board up a room in a building you're never gonna use again
One thing that I theorize is that Golden Freddy is a phantom projection of Fredbear to match a Freddy already seen in the building. That's why GF matches the current Freddy. They may have been retired, but the Springlock animatronics would be used for parts or metal because Fazbear Entertainment is cheap. They may melt or rebuild stuff like they did with the Toys, or William used for the Funtimes.
For the moving of Golden Freddy thing, I think it make scene if you think about it this way. You would want to leave your dangerous technology in an abandoned building were kids break into. You would want to move it to a location were you can keep an eye on it. As for the Golden Freddy performing in FNAF 2 that could have just been an old poster from FNAF 0 brought over to the new location as decoration.
I remember somebody made a theory back before Sister Location that not only is Golden Freddy completely an apparition, but also their appearance is controlled by the spirit's memories. To elaborate further, they said that in Fnaf 2 they likely remember the suit a lot closer to how it was. But by Fnaf 1 their memory has gotten fuzzy, and to them it's just easier to take what Freddy currently looks like and color it yellow.
I think my favorite part of fnaf is how the lore is such a mess you could easily make nearly anything make sense if you try your hardest to do so. The phone guy is Gregory's great great great great grandpa or something? Yeah you could probably put something like thay together it you wanted to
I feel like we needed more of this when the game first was popular. There are so many little things that nobody EVER talks about. The wires all over the fucking place still pisses me off and nobody ever brings them up
I know why the contradictions happened and it's frustratingly simple and meta. Fnaf 1-3 are not really made with a solid continuity in mind. Scott was surprised with how popular fnaf 1 was, wanted to capitalize off it's success, and decided to hint and tease ideas through easter eggs and weird spooky implications through the phone guy's dialogue. We don't get ANYTHING about spring locks in fnaf 1 or 2. In fact, they aren't mentioned at all until fnaf 3. In fnaf 2, we get the first mention of the 'yellow suit' kept in the 'back room', which is used to lure and kill kids in the DCI. Now, you can tell a 'gap story' by assuming that it's Afton who breaks into the back room and steals the spring bonnie costume for use in the DCI. He may also be responsible for tampering with The Mangle in such a way that the bite of '83 happens to ensure the protagonist of fnaf 2 can't tell the cops what he knows. (this goes against the idea that Michael Afton has been the security guard the whole time, unless he just coincidentally stopped working nightshifts at fnaf 2's location for some reason). There's a lot of things we can assume about fnaf 2. For example, we can assume from the fact that it HAS the old costumes in a safe room, that they where put back there when fnaf 2's location was a Fredbear's Family Diner. BUT, aside from the mention of the yellow costume (which, afaik the only one we've heard of up to this point in the original series IS golden freddy) we do not have any other evidence to suggest this. I theorize that around the time of fnaf 2, Scott began trying to think of an end point for the series going forward. He wanted to have the series tie up neatly at the end, and his choice of resolution was the dream theory. This is why in fnaf 3 we get the phantoms, we finally hear about the spring lock costumes and discover that the killer was caught by the five spirits and trapped in SpringBonnie, and why later on in fnaf 4, we get confirmation that essentially, every character and incident we've heard about or seen evidence for has been some kind of magnified horrific nightmare imagined version of the truth. The reality is, the MCI victims are actually not dead, they are just friends of the crying child who weren't present during his party, when he is unfortunately killed in a tragic accident. It's not until fnaf 5 that we learn ANYTHING about Michael Afton. We don't even really know who he is until fnaf 4, when we get the backstory for the crying child. (note, we also see the 'purple guy' helping a man into a yellow coloured fredbear suit... the imagery? kinda looks like a purple guy stuffing a kid into a suit... you know, the M.O. of every kill that's happened?) After Fnaf 4 wrapped up everything with the dream theory (and I presume, the box contains the crying child's ashes), the fans weren't happy. They wanted more, and Scott was willing to give them more. He saw the theories and decided to say, fuck it. Let's go big. That's when fnaf 5 introduces Elizabeth, Bellora, Michael's connection to his father. It implies Michael has been working with William for some time for unknown reasons (I assume hur hur he's his father but that can't explain everything, after all I assume he knows his father makes killer robots and has been banned from locations before, that can't be normal) Really, the games after fnaf 4 start to really mess up the timeline in massive ways. Predominantly, imo, because of the involvement of the Afton family in the plot. Making all of the characters in the first three games have major importance and connection to each other, when the original 3 games were more about a corporation's negligence in a series of murders, ultimately turned the series into Afton worship. The series post fnaf 4 is exclusively about the Afton's involvement in everything and how they are responsible in some way for every tragedy that's ever happened in the fnaf games. Only the bite of '83 is confirmed for being accidental. Everything else, including Elizabeth's death, happens because of Afton becoming inexplicably murderous post crying child's death. There's a metric ton of unanswered questions that are, in my opinion, ret-conned into being answered. Why are the funtimes so vile? Oh! Because Afton injected soul juice into them, that's how. Not because of the puppet, who we know from the earlier canon is responsible for the soul transference. How did William get in touch with Michael? Who knows! They've been working together for years, possibly since fnaf 1! (even though this... doesn't really make much sense...) There's a lot of problems with fnaf's lore that ultimately makes it a jumbled up mess of ideas that Scott never really tied together into a continuity properly post fnaf 4. There's just more loose threads than there ever has been before.
ALRIGHT, LISTEN SO THIS THEORY ITS ABOUT THE GOLDEN FREDDY DISPUTE. So, personally I think that “golden Freddy” was never repaired. In fact, I believe it got decommissioned at the same time as spring bonnie. Im pretty sure that the golden Freddy we see isn’t an animatronic, it’s just the soul(s) of the people(or person) that possessed fredbear(golden Freddy), mimicking a similar form as it’s peers. For instance, withered golden Freddy took a withered form, and when it’s friends got fixed it took a fixed form. Also, it could be haunting the pizzeria, that’s how the kids saw it and drew pics of it. (Or the pictures were older and from fnaf 0) anyways, if this “golden Freddy” theory is sounds good, please lemme know!! Thanks for reading ❤❤
It wasn't until this comment section that I realised 'Tampering with the Animatronics' was at least an indirect nod to the fact that you can customize the difficulty on Night 7
i feel like the "golden freddy gets fixed" thing can be explained by how ghosts work in fnaf. Despite resembling physical suits, characters like golden freddy and the shadow animatronics are for all intents and purposes ghosts. We've seen in Follow Me that when the kids' vessels are destroyed they become pure ghosts. What if in the fnaf universe once your possessed vessel becomes unusable or immobile in any sort of way you become a ghost who resembles your memory of what you were possessing looked like, in golden freddy's case they're possessing Fredbear who's stuck in suit mode with that memory fading over time. They slowly forget the details, going from a freddy-like fredbear still with one button like the older models to FNaF 1 where they just become a yellow version of what the current Freddy looks like.
9:10 Yeah, weird but, I think safe rooms were made for employees to wear the suits. If any springlock incident happens, nobody will hear it, since it's sound proof, and nobody will see it, since there is no camera. And the cameras doesn't show the way to the safe rooms, so there is no evidence to support if someone really enter them, which helped William to make his plans. Suits being unable for usage is ruinning it though.
Confirmed: Scott’s just throwing everything at the wall and seeing what sticks in terms of lore. That being said, I have a theory on Golden Freddy: What if they had him set up somewhere as an exhibit? Like “our great history!” Or something? That’d totally explain why he’s all prettied up in 1. Perhaps he served a similar purpose in 2, but was among the decommissioned animatronics, so he shows the wear and tear we see. There’s also a higher chance that he’s just a straightup ghost given that he just kinda materializes out of nowhere and kills us.
Well I do agree that the tapes in fnaf 3 are in order, it's likely that time has passed between them. The first two are prerecorded for new employees. The third is for all employees after a springlock failure has happened (the silver eyes implies this to be William but it could be anyone) and this is probably after the springlock suits have been worn for a while. The next call is kinda unimportant but it does show us that phone guy is making announcements along with current events. We know that phone guy continues to work for Freddy's until he dies in fnaf 1 and so the final call could really be made any time between fnaf 0 location and FNAF 1. Phone dude only tells us that he has found a collection of old tapes, and so they totally could be from very different time periods in Freddy's. “The sister location” obviously brings circus baby’s to mind, but it is important to note that scott had planned fnaf 3 to be the last game, meaning sister location as we know it probably didn’t even exist as an idea. To me, this suggests that they are just referring to another Freddy’s nearby. If the tape was made in FNAF 0 then the sister location to that would be FNAF 2 since they are so close by. If someone is springlocked in fnaf 0 and then it also makes sense for FNAF 2 to have the suits since they are “being retired to an appropriate location” The night 5 tape then has to take place at this appropriate location and since they mention the safe room and such we know that it is a Freddy’s, so again FNAF 2 location makes sense here instead of just some storage unit or whatever. That doesn’t, however, make sense with the MCI since William wore springbonnie to kill the kids in FNAF 0, and we hear about the suit being moved in the second location, though I guess the MCI could have already happened in FNAF 0 before the springlock failure and the suits were sent away and the line is referring to the DCI. The "most" wording makes things confusing but if we are to assume that Springtrap was sealed up in one of these, then he would have been sealed up before phone guy dies, which doesn’t really make much sense given that the animatronics are still intact when he does. So maybe he’s not sealed up? But then, what was the point of that tape, if the others were made by scott to give us more background information on fnaf 3.. Idk lol anyway, Fredbear on the wall could also be explained by Fredbear still being a character despite not being an animatronic out on stage. And I totally agree abt Mike being scooped not being the reason for odor😭😭😭 There's no way scott was planning that bro
Its kinda obvius of the fnaf 1 location being the 1985 one but revamped, that explain at least why have a safe room, why looks a little abandoned, why have tvs in the office if fnaf 2 already have the tablet if in 1985 they uses tv screens to see the cameras, and after this in 1995 willian dies, looks like that the 1987 location dont have a safe room
17:55 it’s probably that. Sister location is a real business term that basically describes businesses owned by the same company so two Freddy's would be sister locations.
Tell that to the game called “Sister location”, like I get that can be a possibility but I’d like for someone to find some level of fairly definitive rationale.
7:53 Yeah it seems very strange on how Golden Freddy is lugged around even though it should be decommissioned. Though another weird thing that should be pointed out is that spring bonnie was too, Assuming that they were all in different locations William managed to smuggle a golden rabbit suit into the building murder a bunch of kids then get out and presumably put it back.
Phone guy says that they retrofitted the old models with new technology, so Golden Freddy may not be a “springlock suit” anymore, thus why he’s not decommissioned.
it does make sense that the funtines could be built before the mci, he could have wanted to kill them remotely as to not get caught but then when they kill elizabeth he realizes he doesnt have as much control as he thought he did so he tries again but manually as to not kill the wrong person
For the golden freddy drawing in FNAF 2, i think it's just some random kids that discovered GF in the restaurant and decided to draw him cuz they thought he was simply a normal animatronic like the rest As to how they could've seen GF? Well remember how GF can appear in the restaurant in the SAVE THEM minigame? I think that implies that he actually did do that in the real restaurant, and some kids were just lucky and spotted him
11:52 It's very likely that the suit's intended function was to kill anyone inside it, similar to TTO, as the Baby's animatronics were built to kill. However, it was then used in another way, perhaps it was used in an experiment, in an attempt to get a spirit to possess an animatronic, or perhaps the Remnant from a dead child to possess the suit. An interesting detail is that whoever possesses the suit uses the Minireenas to kill you, to prevent you from setting the Spring Locks off, so they can remain dormant. Assuming the CBEaR's shells were brought to the Mega Pizzaplex, so would this Spring Lock suit, so we might see them in RUIN. This could also be why Scott refused to reveal their identity, even to this day.
1:39 technical the fnaf 2 restaurant also closes so it could have been made then or after the fnaf1 location, and honestly it makes more sense after fnaf 2 since that would. E around the time William got put in jail and then (most likey ) fired.
