@@Metroskajai think i can translate, basically OP is posting a "conspiracy theory" (dunno if it's a joke or not) about corn syrup being a govt conspiracy for mind control or whatever, someone that is a paranoid schizophrenic may believe due to their mental illness
I was a stormam at the British army's operational mobilisation centre, and use to issue UN specific equipment to troops going on related operations. In the British army at least we issued official un pieces but not the quota or in the packs that you described. Each individual recieved one beret, a cap badge and two shoulder patches. These where all separate. We never had the brassards, scarfs or baseball caps. Although I know the caps where sometimes obtained in theatre.
In East Timor we received the blue baseball cap, beret and brassard with helmet covers and the cravat being there but not issued. We always wore the baseball cap all the time with brassards while in DPCU in public.
Minster of External Affairs in the Canadian govt is co-credited as being the 'father of peacekeeping. He was awarded the Nobel Prize for his involvement in resolving the Suez Crises. In my 35 yrs in the army, I deployed on 2 UN missions and instructed on the international UN Mil Observers' Crse. Host nations should keep their own uniforms, IMO. I nearly choked the first time I was issued a UN beret and metal cap badge. The beret was an enormous pizza and the badge felt like it weighed a pound. I was able to buy a half decent beret from Pakistan but was stuck with the 'rodeo belt buckle' metal badge. By the time of my next deployment, we had established a PK Trg Sp Centre that was on a base with a good kit shop. I bought a new beret and one of the smaller cloth/bullion UN badges and had the base tailor sew it on. Also on that tour we were issued blue cloth helmet covers and the unique Canadian wide-brim Tilley hat in UN blue. In 7 months I never wore the helmet and the Tilley hat - just once. I never, ever wore a silly scarf and the issued brassards were crap. We just had the badge sewn directly onto all our uniforms. While spooling up for a third deployment, I purchased a fresh beret and badge. However, that deployment was cancelled. I had many friends deploy to Croatia/Bosnia in the early 90s. They were passed on used, crappy painted helmets where most of the paint was worn off. The Remfs in the support unit started getting cloth covers on or about 93 but not the grunts. Unfortunately, the UN is bloated, bureaucratic and inefficient. On missions, it is the military people that make it work.
I've always imagined a standing UN Peace Keeping Corps having a solid colour uniform, specifically one that's in the colour range of a light tan/beige, like eggshell to herringbone. I remember watching a movie about the Yugoslav war as a child where I think I saw French PKs in such uniforms with powder/sky blue helmets and a stark white APC. They had a really surreal look about them, compared to the solid forest green uniforms of the serbs, or the motley assortment the bosniaks pulled together.
But realistically a UN military unit would be wearing camo pattern uniforms on a modern battlefield as national militaries and NATO task forces do maybe using blue markings while actual peacekeepers will definitely keep wearing blue light body armor or just vests and blue helmets either of a U.S. or more generic style or national (Germany, France, China). I’d imagine the shade of blue would get darker as the unit is denoted as more offensive with armor also getting thicker not that thick. The deepest blue would be like a NATO specific uniform rather than a peacekeeper uniform mixed with other such camouflage and solid colors in specific environments or as the situation warrants for ID or presenting a more benign presence. I’m gonna copy this actually.
Camouflage Centre Europe began to be issued in 1991, but French peacekeepers in the Yugoslav wars in the 90's still used the previous olive green uniforms, except for Kosovo in '99 when by then the new CCE was used. And I remember that movie No Man's Land had French soldiers in it wearing green uniforms and blue helmets so it's likely to be this one.
I have two Canadian fabric blue helmet covers. One is for the PASGT helmet, used from the mid 90s onwards, primarily in the former Yugoslavia. The other is a more current one meant for the CG634. Prior to that we painted our helmets, so I don't believe there was a fabric cover for the M1 in Canadian use.
A retired Canadian officer came to our school years ago for Remembrance Day and he showed a bunch of his gear from his career spanning from 1993 to 2014. He was in Rwanda, Afghanistan, and other places. I’m pretty sure I saw he had a cloth UN cover on an M1.
@Uniform History I hadn't actually thought specifically about psychological attributes of the color 'Blue' as used by UN Peacekeeping Forces until you mentioned it in the video. I was reminded of a pamphlet or handout that I received in Law School that discussed choosing the right necktie to wear based on what you were doing that day, your social position or standing as it relates to the goal to be achieved, and the overall impression you want to present. For example, as a community leader meeting with contractors to discuss their lagging progress on a project for the city's infrastructure, a thick, silk tie in a middle to dark shade of red, with no other colors present, is good choice to convey that you are confident with powerful leadership qualities. Each primary color and its several shades have many different 'meanings'. As you stated for U.N. Blue, it does convey a feeling of peace but more specifically of Peaceful Authority & Trust. Whereas, midnight blue conveys a feeling closer to Absolute Authority.
I think the whole psychology of dressing with certain colors works best as more of a subtle strategy istead of as a main focus. Because what good is an impression with no actions to back it up. An impression can enhance actions, but they are not as important/necessary as the actions.
@@CarrotConsumersomewhat makes sense, especially from a digital arts perspective too. Colors are wonky and have numerous factors playing into phycology but it isn’t necessarily wrong either.
Personally i think the U.N should adopt a permanent primarily Blue, but also gray, white and black uniform.Think the Europeans from that End War game from 15 years ago.
My dad was Australian Army ‘74-‘98 during the big peace between Vietnam Timor and the Iraq/GWOT. The only trips going were UN MFO of exchange. In 92 he was able to get a posting to the UN in Pakistan where they were training Afghani refugees in mine clearance after the Russian war. He wore the tan brassards with a mixture of Australian army flags and patches. UN insignia and Operation Salam patches. Than a tan safari suit. A family friend was in Rwanda and wore the blue beret and scarf another in Timor wore blue had and patches but Auscam helmet when patrolling.
I like the topic of deciding the UN uniform. It doesn't have to be camo, nor does it have to be made solely for war. With the blue helmet and gear, any camo sort of clashes, whilst also opening up colours less seen on the battlefield. I like the idea similar to the US blueberry camo for their navy, in the sense of choose a scheme that'll hide dirt and wear common in their duties, whilst also stepping away from the classic military colours. A more workwear design to it would also probably be a good step, such as the oversized hanging pockets you see on tradesmen trousers would give a nice practical boost while being uncommon for war
IMO UN peacekeeping uniform would be fine like that, but if it descended into a war/ conflict, Camo is still better. In that case, something like the UKR conflict would be better... It's still a lot more visible but still a lot more subdued than the full blue helmet cover. A band of blue around doesn't destroy the camo too much.
That would be cool to look at the uniforms and equipment for the ICCS (international control commission and supervision) for the Vietnam War. It was activated twice, once in 1954 with three different nations of different alliances and another in 1973. It’s created in Geneva to supervise the cease fire over the 17th parallel, but I believe it’s under the UN despite the USSR and US not recognizing the two different Vietnams
This is probably one of my most favorite videos you’ve done so far mostly because there’s very little information about UN peacekeepers out there in general so it’s really nice to get some new information on their equipment and uniform items that they use if you’re really cool if you could do another video on the UN if possible
Such a great video on such a niche topic even within the surplus community. There is virtually zero secondary videos much less discussion about UN uniforms. Awesome video man!
I just don’t get why the UN once issued blue plastic helmet liners. It’s completely useless in preventing head injuries. That very issue was pointed out in the movie “siege of jadotville” during the Irish army’s turn for UN peacekeeping
It was stated that the shortage of berets prompted the issue of blue helmet liners. They were worn for identification only. In basic training, back in 1984, we wore helmet liners except when on the firing range. It identified us as recruits, we all hated them, the humbling feeling was probably intentional. I never wore the liner by itself after basic training and within a year we were issued kevlar helmets.
Really? Not sure how old you are but I can remember in the 90s seeing US soldiers in UN blue on the news constantly in Somalia, Syria, Kosovo, Africa, and Bosnia
Try a independent contractor in WW2 German and English kit packing a FN 49 in 1972 , with a bag full of rusty mixed ammo , US G.I. WW 2 'C" rations , but as time go forward , you didnt puke that much green liquids.
@@Russianpaintrainrandom but that reminds me of a friend in Afghanistan. He came across some crazy "Khyber pass copies" (local reproductions) and antiques. WW2 surplus, leftover WW1 era surplus, and even some "Civil War looking crap" from the 1800s. They even came across black powder guns, like muskets or early rifles.
The early UN forces used blue Canadian styled field caps and Commonwealth styled bush jackets or shirts that you'll see in the Congo War by the Irish and a lot of the UN forces in the Sinai.
The USA pays for 38% of the UN, making it the largest single contributor at $15 billion a year. That's a Ford Class aircraft carrier ($13 billion) each and every year.
Likewise! People only care about military successes (disregarding the fact that the vast majority of peacekeeping missions are successful) and fall asleep as soon as you mention that the UN feeds, shelters, medicates, and saves hundreds of millions of lives every year.
I love the idea of UN peacekeepers, but it’s a shame that there’s too much bureaucracy to make them viable, and countries that can actually do the job their tasked with like the US try to avoid being involved. (Respect to Kenya though, they are a good contributor)
Much the same as when British Armed Forces personnel aid us civvies, they simply add a cheap hi-viz vest to their kit. It depends on supply chain costs and what each individual peacekeeper is used to. If serviceman/woman habitually keeps certain bits of kit in certain pockets or is used to, and tweaked their kit to make life easier for them whilst on active duty then keep that uniform and just add the cheap UN identifiers.
There are several helmets available that are able to stop .30 caliber rifle rounds such as the Highcom RCH/Striker, the Avon/Ceradyne L110 Combat 2, and the ArmorSource AS-600 EX
I have some of the gear, as i inherited it from an uncle that served in UN for canada. However, i acquired the blue body armor carrier with the armor. I canbe sure that its UN issue, but it is the light blue color, with no markings. My uncle served in Beirut and cypress.
If you cover more peacekeeping forces, please talk about African Union uniforms! They were an early fascination of mine and I'd be very interested to learn more.
Recently got back from a UN deployment. Our peaked caps were different again from the two variants shown, were made to wear our berets all the time, and were only given 3 patches
Yo, listen up here's a story About a little guy That lives in a blue world And all day and all night And everything he sees is just blue Like him inside and outside
@@SerbijaSupremeHow about I paint you Red from the inside And see how YOU like it? I wouldn't say this if you didn't have the Russian federation flag and anti-UN ideas. Because believe me. I'd choose UN, USA, NATO, EU, ANY other than, instead of supporting the damn Russian government. F#ck their government, f#ck Putin, and f#ck the Oligarchs, f#ck their aggressive approach of unity that they tried on us Eastern Europeans and Central Europeans since 1945.
back in the wild Reagan 80's i was in the Corps and when my unit deployed to beirut lebanon , they wanted the units that deployed to go under UN command and where UN blue helmets and commandant Kelly was like f%$ks NO and that's why none of the MAU's =the 32'nd , the 24'th and the 22'nd didn't where UN blue
PLEASE DO THE SPACE FORCE UNIFORMS FROM STEVE Carell’s Netflix show space force I think it’s soo much cooler then the multi cam that our real world space force got
Well here's my World peace strategy I feel like I think it should work. Here's how, In order to bring peace and prevent anymore conflict and war, every world nations especially including every super-powers must abandoned all military powers and Nuclear weapons. After that start more focus on speak of trades, economy, technology, Space travel, and such. Have United Nations Peacekeeper as the only military power, but only they will act when the majority of UN Councils for favor of such.
Portuguese soldiers under the UN dont use blue helmets, instead they just use a blue patch with the UN letters, i wonder why they are allowed to do it but no one else is?
Not gonna die, those blue accessories are one of few things that go hard about UN Peacekeepers...if only they didn't feel so damn useless as a force smh (not really their fault per say but i digress)
But they aren't useless. Most operations are successful. It's just this weird psyop lie that's been regurgitated god knows how long for no reason; it has zero bearing in reality.
Great video but you keep refering to the ball cap as a peaked cap. A peaked cap is a dress uniform component. I believe most militaries just call it a Ball Cap.
The idea of UN peacekeepers wearing camouflage is really a bit agains the purpose. Ideally just the presence of UN peacekeepers should be what stops conflict, so making them as visible as possible furthers that goal, but on the other hand that does also put them in a tough spot when they do have to fight and could benefit from being able to hide, after all even police forces expecting to benefit from camouflage will still use it. The only way to get the best of both worlds would be something like a reversible uniform like you saw on older Finnish and Belgian uniforms, but with a peacekeeper/combat set rather than the woodland/snow and woodland/desert sets of the Finnish and Belgian uniforms.
My father was very proud of his Peacekeeping duties, and was with the Canadian contingent at The Battle of Medak Pocket in UNPROFOR. After that battle and seeing the aftermath, all he wanted to do was put that blue helmet away and put his green one back on so that those who perpetrated those atrocities could be brought to justice.
India's rapid action force is not a part of Indian army and their own color is blue , You showed a pic of them with wearing helmets which denote RAF. Or rapid action force , and not only in Kashmir , in any other part of India when raf ( a police force ) is deployed they use blue color similar to UN. So that example of yours was nonsensical.
If I was to choose the un solid colour uniform, it would be od green bdus or jungle fatigues as they are tried and true cuts an un forces still do get involved in combat from time to time, besides, it looks cooler then light blue solid colour
There should be a standing UN force with their own unique uniforms. Instead of just one design, there should be multiple designs for various mission types. Solid color for humanitarian aid with no combat expected to full camouflage with heavy fighting expected. Member nations can have units rotate into the role or have dedicated units.
Prepare for a bunch of truly unhinged comments down here. And cheers to the real commenters contributing interesting stories of their unique connections to the subject of UN-iforms, instead of just regurgitating anti-UN psyop conditioning like bots.
the uniform shouldnt be blue camo though since a lot of marine and naval units use that pattern. should be plain white and pantone blue or some unique design.
@@leonel9683 The very idea of an institution with global authority is contemptible to me because, when it eventually becomes oppressive (as all systems of authority inevitably do), there is nowhere to run. At least when a national government becomes tyrannical, you can escape to another country. What do you do when it encompasses the world?
@@possumpatrol45 Your theory of statecraft is deeply flawed. A great deal of autocracies have in fact reformed their way out of autocracy completely naturally. Besides, the UN has nowhere near enough power (and likely never will) to actually control any of its larger, more powerful member-states-- it was designed that way. Better to appreciate what they *can* do, which is save hundreds of millions of lives every year and preserve peace treaties (since a majority of peacekeeping operations are in fact successful).
*Realistically a UN military unit would be wearing camo pattern uniforms on a modern battlefield as national militaries and NATO task forces do maybe using blue markings while actual peacekeepers will definitely keep wearing blue light body armor or just vests and blue helmets either of a U.S. or more generic style or national (Germany, France, China). I’d imagine the shade of blue would get darker as the unit is denoted as more offensive with armor also getting thicker not that thick. The deepest blue would be like a NATO specific uniform rather than a peacekeeper uniform mixed with other such camouflage and solid colors in specific environments or as the situation warrants for ID or presenting a more benign presence inside or outside with or without a standing UN/NATO army. *self copied
