Namond “ I’m buying some for every soldier that stood tall” Dukie “ I was down there” Namond “ Man fuck you Duke” The craziest part is Duke stood tall while Namond hid like a punk and let his friends get beat up.
@d R I agree with most of what you’re saying but Michael didn’t slap the dogshit out of Namond out of love ( to show him he’s not built for the streets) but frustration and anger.
@d R "We had some bad boys, for real. Wasn’t about guns so much as knowing what to do with your hands. Those boys could really rack. My father had me on the straight, but like any young man, I wanted to be hard too, so I’d turn up at all the house parties where the tough boys hung. Shit, they knew I wasn’t one of them. Them hard cases would come up to me and say, 'Go home, schoolboy, you don’t belong here.' Didn’t realize at the time what they were doing for me."
Heart and hard in the hood . Namond wasn’t meant for it . Michael knew , set him straight . Cuz after he leaves his moms. Na was actually one of the smartest cats , just not street smart . Yo I love the wire yo 😂
I also love the scene where Namond visits him in jail with his mother. Delonda leaves them alone to talk, and Wee Bey isn't hard on Namond. He actually seems like a decent father. He probably wasn't around enough and didn't know anything but the streets, didn't know how to guide his son down any other path. But I like that he didn't try to "toughen him up" with some tough "love" like Delonda does.
Much as I love Namond, and am happy that he got a good ending, it always bothers me how poorly he treated Duke. Especially since he had enough money to help him at least get more food. Shame they never reunited later after Namond had been adopted, I feel he’d be a lot nicer and even try to help him out then. Of course at that point Duke had way bigger issues.
@@noahmclaughlin7921that's the horror of Dukie; completely abandoned by everyone. His family were the worst people, when they separated Mike can't even remember the events at the start of season 4, he will forget Dukie in a year and Dukie had zero other place to go other than the addicts. He burned the bridge with the one adult who ever gave a damn about him. For me, the real horror of Dukie is that he does not become the next Bubbles, he becomes another Johnny. Bubbles clearly had an education, he's more than just street smart and has worked paying jobs, he has a sister who is a nurse and clearly loves him, a niece who knows him as well. Dukie walks away with no family, no friends, no education, no experiences (couldn't get a footlocker job), he couldn't play the game, he was the game just like the other addicts. The tragedy of Bubbles is he always had a glimmer of hope in escape since season one, it just took a while. The horror of Dukie is that he has none, he's just another Johnny.
5:33 Dukie saw right through Namond, he wasn't at all impressed! It was symbolic that Mike slapped Namond instead of decking him, he was slapping him out of a fantasy.
I think the four main boys were probably the best written and acted child characters I've ever seen in a drama, apart from maybe Sally Draper in Mad Men.
@@nothere413that’s facts! All the kids were so well written. Even the one that just stole cars. They all seemed like real kids you would see growing up in that environment
Kernard saw right thru Naymond too. Lol. And i just laughed out loud realizing Naymond asked Michael to come with him - to confront a 70 pound 10 year old who stole his pack
@@BlackEagle182 Best thing that ever happened to Namond in my opinion. It knock some much needed sense into him sense then he stopped pretending to be something he's not.
@Cee Cee Namond struck me as that one spoilt rich kid in the hood because of that strong back up. Also had it not been for that much needed intervention, Namond would've either joined his father in prison be put to sleep in the streets. Even Little Kennard knew had no respect for him whatsoever.
@@BigA678 wtf its the wire, ofc u can interpret it like that. like do you really think slim charles' and omar's most famous quotes are to be taken literally bruh 🤤
Probably because Nay’s still his friend so he didn’t want to be brutal. But yeah, it’s funny how he felt the need to go easy on him compared to the 8 year old
Namond is TI's son, King. I am going to leave this right here. He is going to run in to his "Michael" soon enough. I pray he remains alive after the lesson, I truly pray.
Mike have had to fully embrace the gangster and criminal lifestyle because of circumstances preventing him from becoming the best version of himself and engaging in legitimate future opportunities and staying out of trouble with street gangs and the law. Nammond is a good kid trying too hard to put up a front to impress his friends because of his father being a notorious heavy hitter for Avon and his own mother encouraging him to fully engage in the drug dealing lifestyle that could have gotten him incarcerated or killed, which unfortunately happened to D’Angelo. Anyways, the Wire has no clear cut good guys and bad guys. The characters are just regular people who see the world in different shades of grey instead of the usual black and white.
That background talk kills me; Kenard getting the shit slapped out him (person laughing in the background) Namond getting the shit slapped out of him ( see what happened, he smacked the shit out of him) 😂😂
Bunny saved namond cause no way he survives that neighborhood. His mom was out there in the streets fighting his battles with bodie. He couldnt even command respect from a 10 year old and Michael exposed him to everyone in the gym. He only talked tough to dukie cause it was easy.
Not only that but because he knew he wouldn’t get respect he had to take his anger out on dookie who actually got respect crom michael. Buddy could’ve just stayed home and not been apart of the game
@@anonymousperson6119Also the things he’s arguing for is clear activism for people in worse off parts of the the world. This impression people get that he’s gonna be corrupt is really stupid imo. He’s a nice kid with positive influences now who’s clearly trying his best. But fans suspect he’ll be like Clay David because what? He said one line that was the same as what Clay said (at a time where he was maintaining his bullshit persona)? Yeah that makes so much sense last we saw him. Especially with Colvin’s experience with politicians I doubt he’ll be judging Namond to take that route.
Cold part is I'm from Brooklyn but I lived in Baltimore for 2 years with my dad when I was in high school, and I started watching this show....those Baltimore cats LOVED this show, dudes would run home to catch this show every night....damn good times
I think Namond was just hurt more emotionally than physically, because he was exposed and he knew that he lost Mike's respect, which in their neighborhood is everything. He was now all alone and frightened.
@@KtotheGIt was emotionally hurt. But not because of that imo. He was hurt because his best friend had changed, and become a ruthless killer who was willing to beat little kids. He knew his mom didn't care about him, she and Bay wanted him to be something he didn't want to be and he was lost and confused for that. All of that shit accumulated and made him burst in crying, because the world and the people he believed in had come down
@@arthurvandelay. Kinard is not a "little kid," though... you're giving him civilian status. He's in the game, so he's a soldier. There is no gender and no age biases in the game. Namond was in the game, too, so he was supposed to follow the rules and handle business accordingly. I don't think Michael would've ever harmed anyone outside of the game, which is why he always took issue with what Chris and Snoop were telling him to do. He didn't want to hurt the innocent. Kinard is not an innocent little kid. Michael wouldn't touch the kids like his brother Bug. I think Namond probably understood that, too, but Namond is also not innocent, so he knows that he can be got for his foolishness. He knows that he won't last long, especially with no backup on the streets and he lost that in Mike.
His cry was him saying he didn’t want the life. He could talk all day but could never come out and say he wanted out. Mike knew and helped him by beating so bad he had to show he didn’t want the life.
Man, I love Michael, don't care what anyone says. The tragedy is he has accepted that kind of life like it's the last/only resort (and maybe it is) but the kid is full of honour, legitimately, he saw Namond for what he was, a complete poser and complete posers are insulting enough acting like it's all flash but pouting around it is ultra narcissistic. Michael saw that he saw this entire kind of life as a fashion statement kind of thing and he understood that Dukie was getting the worst of it, for him and Duke that life was real for them, and he always protected Duke like a big brother because he had empathy for him.
That was heart breaking when Michael stood tall for nard and he left him hanging like what happened if he would've kill for him smh never jump in the fire for someone who don't want smoke they'll let u burn
Exactly that's why Mike was done with him. When namond showed up to the gym Mike ignored him for that exact reason you stated. He knew Namond was only in the way when it came to where Mike's head was at. Mike was realizing what he had to become to survive in the streets.
Always kind of bothered me that Bunny saved Namond when every other kid needed it more. Randy could’ve been a successful businessman, Dookie a computer programmer, Michael a military officer…Namond the next Clay Davis. The Wire in its essence was a tragedy.
He didn't know about any of the other three though. And I don't think there's any reason to think Namond is gonna be a scammy politician when he grows up
Man while I get your point and it DID fuck me up first time watching seeing all the other kids get dicked over, Naymond needed a raft out just the same as the others. His mom’s money wasn’t gonna save him from her deadbeat “parenting.” If he hadn’t gotten saved by Bunny his life would have been over quick on the streets.
Now the reason was because in reality Namond was the only one who COULDNT survive without somebody protecting him. His dad couldn't protect him. Mom wouldnt support him. Mike was done protecting him. If he wasnt taken out the street in some way he would've been killed somehow in the streets. Dukie became a junky BUT he knew how to survive on his own. Mike knew how to survive the streets on his own and his own way. So did Randy cause he was a natural hustler so outside of how it ended he would have somehow made himself money.
He definitely knew he was soft but didn't do anything about it but the anger he felt kept building up because of the constant bullying of Duke and that fact that Namond parrots things he sees and hears to make himself seem tougher than he is and it erupted and snapped on him.
Namonds character even though he was a kid, was really a telling personification on how the softest people truly operate. They look to pick fights and bully the people who are not looking to fight or cause trouble.
David Simon said they deliberately made Namond obnoxious and unlikeable to show how utterly random fate is. The audience wanted to see Mike or Randy or Dukie get adopted by Colvin and taken out of that life, but instead the opportunity went to Namond. Life isn't fair.
@@LostSox you're insane. Yeah lebron flops but ppl don't realize how insanely strong he is. They did a test on him. Here in Cleveland. When he drives into the paint. It's over 700lbs per square inch. Like getting hit by a car. Going. 25mps. So if u wanna take the charge. Be our guest
The smile at 1:02 is everything 😫 It still burns my heart and churns my ovaries 😫😫😫🙈🥹 Dukie was so sweet and innocent. I can’t even watch the last two seasons only these clips man lol
Naymond was brought up never wanting for nothing, people had respect for him because of who his pops was but still felt he had to prove himself to be a soldier like Wee Bey.. I grew up around kids who had and when they get around the ones who didn't, their whole persona changes to act like they come from that environment.. the wire is one of the greatest shows by how it reflects reality in the hood.. I've never seen it so well portrayed on any other show but this.
I knew a boy that was just like Namond like the whole life story ironically his name was Little Mike though and his dad was Big Mike. His dad put in a lot of work and did his thing on the streets and his mom wanted him to be like his dad. I only heard a little bit of the story but because I was locked up with him. So fast forward a year later I saw him with his mom at the gas station said what's up and left. A couple of hours later I got word that he was shot at minutes after I left because his mom was trying to get him to finesse some coke from some one around there. She didn't know a week before the shooting that he passed off some fake money to one of the guys friends. All the people involved stayed on the same street. He ended up getting locked up and the guy that shot at him beat the charge. His dad is still in prison for murder. His mom was forced to move because she was scared.
@plutoman8969I don't think that was to draw parallels between Namond and Clay Davis specifically, just the hood and politics in general. Like Omar said, "money ain't got no owners, only spenders". To most people, it doesn't matter where the money came from, just that they can spend it.
@@Wasabiofip I think the parallels between Clay and Namond are actually there, because Namond goes all public speaker at the end right. And what is the 1 thing Clay is good at; talking and getting people on his side.
Irony is that Mike would probably end up dead in the streets (though he'd likely last a good many years, given his skill), but Nay would end up being extremely successful.
"First of all, you don't slap a man. Even when it was fashionable in Paris, they had a gun fight. somebody had to go."~ Charlie Murphy Naymond gonna learn to keep that mouth shut.
Two kids growing up in a tough violent environment. Namond is aware of the environment but deep down he wants nothing to do with it and just wants to enjoy being a typical kid. Michael is also aware of it and understands that he has to "grow up beyond his years" survive. 1) Both have a gift that could save them (Namond = intellect/ public speaking; Mike = athlete / boxing). 2) Namond got out of that life with a helping hand (kindness) from Bunny. Mike was too hardened/ damaged by his harsh environment to see a way out,,even when Cutty tried to show him a way out. 3) Their stories illustrate the tragic nature of how goodness can come from such an environment if given a chance and how its potential can destroyed and lost.
Namond had the potential of being a good kid but he was a bully. Acting out his insecurities, targeting Dookie specifically because he was low hanging fruit. It’s implied he straightened out when Bunny became a father figure.
It says platinum package too cause he paid for everything. He originally offered up to gold package. Just re watched and enjoyed picking up all details I missed before
Nomad was picking on people that wouldn’t do anything because he was soft himself, Michael got that Dog in him but don’t like his friends getting picked on
Seeing that little monster Kenard get his ass beat by Michael was for me, the most exhilarating vicarious experience in the whole show. Unfortunately, he wasn’t The Grim Reaper to have finished him off ☠️💯
Tbh, Mike slapping up Kenard was way funnier and satisfying than Namond for me. Those kids basically represent younger versions of established characters in the show and Kenard was damn sure a younger version of Bird.
And namond was Dangelo…that’s why bey let him go with bunny. It was his job to groom D….if you notice except for when we first meet Avon Bey always the one to chastise D. He failed D he ain’t wanna fail his son
I knew a Dookie Growing up... in Brooklyn. I knew a Namond and a Mike or two as well.. The Dookie of my old neighborhood is the only one that has lived into their 50's with along with me.