The Worlds First AWD S550 Mustang!! - American GTr Hits the Road, All Wheel Drive Mustang Ep 25 

At what price point? This would almost certainly be a 5 figure price tag, unfortunately!

@@Bertinator-nm9ld that's true. Maybe a driveline company can offer the custom parts and leave the transfer case and differential to be sourced by the customer.

Yes ford should definitely make an AWD mustang dodge did it with the charger

@@rotrmotr And what about all the fabrication work this guy did to make things fit? That labor isn't cheap!

A kit would likely start at $25,000 . . + Labor and fab. But, yes, it would be awesome if it was available as a kit.

I agree! He should make a hoonicorn v3

ngl it looks all like factory

Just pure awesomeness!

@@fartfart7488nah we don’t need any GM crap it’s ALL about the Ford! FORD FTW! Fugg a Chevy and GM product they are always #2 and they are our followers just following in our footsteps!

Here Here!!

Especially if this doesn’t add too much weight.

​@@bradwoods371probably an extra 200 lbs. It's all weight underneath the car though so it shouldn't affect handling too much.

I have an '02 Camaro Z28 with 86K miles and I always wondered what factory GM parts I'd need to make it AWD and if it's even possible.

Crowds everywhere will be safe lol

​@TheStruggleIsReal. 2000 Bravada Parts fit. It's a AWD S10 Blazer basically.

Not really

Mach-E lol

It’s a cool project but AWD does not define American muscle

@@yasuke8687it’s just two more wheels putting down power. If it can switch back to rwd with a button it still counts in my book.

Nahhhhh

And he videoed it to boot!

He humbles all of us! It's just incredible what he did in a garage!

I believe he just has traction control off. He needs to turn off advanced trac. Or unplug the jumper by the cold air intake.

@@Tylerlive300 Just so you know, even with advanced trac off... And "all" traction control systems off, the Ford system still kicks in occasionally. This is actually one of the reasons why people will pull out from a cars and coffee with everything turned off. Not traction control off but advance track as well. That whole 15 seconds of holding the tracton control off switch on the s550. You pull out and it does nothing until the car gets sideways most the way around the corner. And then it decides to kick in. This was fixed somewhat with the s650 and it's drift mode but outside of that the issue still exists. The car will try to save itself. That said, I'm not even talking about those tables. I'm talking about the warranty maintaining torque limits built into the system. This is what keeps you from putting too much power through your transmission or rear end and breaking them. This is why modern cars can be so powerful but use transmissions that just barely meet those limits. When you put your foot on the throttle pedal, The car looks at it as a torque request. The car then looks at what gear it's in, what speed it's going, and a bunch of other things and then it might decide that even though you're asking for 100% of the available torque, it is only going to supply 80% or whatever based upon a lookup table that had a lower value. This doesn't let up if the wheels spin or anything, It's just the compensation to keep the car safe for warranty reasons. That's why irrelevant of the traction control system settings, this torque management system will restrict the power initially when he pulls away. With his new setup, the rear axle will actually see less stress and won't be an issue. Same with its driveshaft and u-joints. However, the transmission itself and possibly the clutch will probably be the weak point now.

@@Tylerlive300there’s still torque reduction to reduce harm to the transmission.

couldnt you justy remove the abs relay

@@luisuribe5432 there are several problems with that. First of all, you're disabling ABS. That's not what we're trying to do as the end goal. But second and just as importantly, the ABS computer is what's sending the messages about the wheel speeds. It's literally required for what he's trying to do. That's why the solution of remapping the tables to do what you want instead of completely disabling critical car systems is needed.... Unless you want to do burnouts and that's it.

I have a feeling Ford would probably put a stop to something like that. I don’t know for sure, of course. Just sounds like if they try to mass produce something like that for Mustangs, Fords lawyers would step in.

@@MrMike95113 if they would install the 3.5 ecoboost, 10 speed auto, and AWD for 35 grand they would have a winner. Sometimes I don't believe they want something that would require them to build a massive amount like the new Maverick which is still hard to find.

@@MrHemikid426I’ve been thinking the same thing for years. It’s right there!

@@MrMike95113 Ford can't stop them. If that was the case there wouldn't be any aftermarket for Mustangs.

It's essentially a garage built Jaguar F Type R. But the manual is the one thing that makes it very unique. I'm surprised manufacturers have never contemplated a manual AWD car.

Totally agree. Bolt-on systems out there with 700 HP, still sounds great unlike turbos.

If he throws forced induction at it, he might grande all the parts he worked so hard on. The front axles and front diff won't take that power.

I have a whipple supercharged 4wd F150 and on an unprepared surface I can go 0-60 in about 4 seconds. I bet since his car is roughly 1,200 pounds lighter he can get 0-60 no prep sub 4 seconds.

​@@asmongoldsmouth9839grande??

if you like to nerd out and bulletproof stuff, look into a interchiller with a whipple charger, gonna need alot of engine work for more than 6-7psi of boost

Alex is the best

I'm not sure the dealership would even notice. Some car salesman aren't very knowledgeable about car stuff.

Totally agree I already want it

Nah Whipple or ESS 🇺🇸💪🏼🐎

the F150 has a new Gen 5 or Gen 6 Whipple Blower though (im a turbo guy and honestly can't remember which)

i didnt see begining of build but wouldnt there have been easier awd based off awd v8s coyote f150? ppl run easy 8s in the 1/4 and 1100whp with awd v8 f150 basically boost and fuel and stock sealed engine thats why v8 f150s are becoming as popular as mustangs cheap v8 work truck with big turbo or supercharger you have a awd mustang

@@carculturenation2166 true, albeit a heavy, non-aerodynamic brick. Not quite know for carving corners, and certainly not going to win any autocross events. I prefer the AWD stang. Not to mention the fun factor of engineering and building it yourself.

Hear hear 👍👏👏I concur.

*Torsen. TORque-SENsing. It is a portmanteau, it is not describing twisting force applied to a solid object, aka torsion.

@@emperorbobarino I know what the diff is and how it works.

@@ItsDaJax Ok, cool. Now I don't have to explain how they work, that there are different types of Torsen diffs and that they have drawbacks versus other differential types. Have a good day, buddy.

😂

That would be cool! Unfortunately, the price tag on these sorts of kits usually give people sticker shock. I think that's why you don't see many AWD conversion kits on the market, for any cars.

Bought a AWD charger rt and it is by far the best daily I've owned. Sad they stopped making them.

They have an AWD Vette. The ERay. And it's stupid fast.

Significantly extra cost and a hit to fuel economy, and probably two reasons why they don't make AWD versions of those three. They made an AWD V8 charger, for a brief period of time. But, as I understand it, they didn't sell. So they went down to just offering it on the V6 models. You don't need AWD to put the power down. Certainly not on modern high performance tires.

@@Bertinator-nm9ld tell that to the Germans......

@@AfriqueNY You got a car you're thinking about, in particular? They tend to make theirs pretty expensive, and don't try to compete so much with affordable American performance cars!

Why would not having AWD stop you, if that's true? Are you looking to use it as a winter car? Snow tires and some weight over the rear axle works wonders! On dry pavement, with good tires, AWD won't net you anything over RWD. The Michelin PS4S can put down every bit of the power that my 302 can make, even in first gear. It's actually pretty impressive! Don't get me wrong, this is an awesome project, in the video, but don't let the lack of AWD stop you from getting a Mustang. It's definitely NOT a necessity.

To compete with the Nissan GTR as stated above.

@@NBC_NCO Compete in what way? I'm pretty sure, if I look it up, a car like the GT350 or Dark Horse will actually be faster around a race track than the GTR. And, if they're not, the GT500 will be. The GTR was a hella impressive car, when it first came out. But that was 16 years ago! Time marches on.

@Bertinator-nm9ld Exactly, we are so far behind in technology.

@Bertinator-nm9ld 0 to 60 times are always going to be better in a all-wheel drive car versus a two-wheel drive. Yes we have cars that are faster in the top speed and have more horsepower but I don't know about you living here in the United States of America I'm not driving 220 mph down to local Highway. Most racing is going to be...stop light to stop light.

Fr i wanna see a 0-60

Twin turbo would be ideal. Better power range. Easy to control boost. No worrying about useless belts.

@@HoldPublicPigsResponsible A GT500 would disagree.

@Jumpnjahosofat ummm no gt500 would do nothing against a twin turbo stang. Actually, look it up, bud. There are plenty of twin turbo gt500 out there. Take the useless supercharger off and experience real power.

@@HoldPublicPigsResponsible I never said that a TT wouldn't be better. You said, boost was hard to control and it had a useless belt. I'm pretty sure they only have one belt and the GT500 has no problem controlling boost.

Thanks! I have been watching your build, great stuff!

@@npvg Appreciate it! Would have been amazing to shoehorn AWD in it too, but I’ll live vicariously through you ✌️ cheers!

Can I ask why? It's an awesome project, but I'm not sure what AWD on a Mustang really gets you, that good snow tires and a couple sandbags in the trunk can't also do for you. I daily mine, through the Midwest winters!

​@@Bertinator-nm9ld TRACTION. No matter how well you make 2 tires put power down, 4 will always do it better. As a Wisconsinite who dailies a P71, there's only so much snow tires and weight can do. There's times my car can't get up the hill to my house and it's time to take one of my Superduty's with 4x locked in. Winter traction isn't even the primary focus of it if you actually listen, in a performance aspect AWD has many benefits as well compared to RWD.

@@kylesonsalla7620 I currently daily a 2007 Mustang, with no traction control or antilock brakes, though the Michigan winters. Until this season (when I put one in myself), it didn't even have a limited slip differential, either. Despite all that, I made it through the winters, just fine! I'd get out there and play in the snowy parking lots, during the worst storms. The only times I have had issues, it was a lack of ground clearance. And the open differential, those two or three times I got stuck in a deep spot over the years. Though I never had to be towed out. And remember, the benefits of AWD traction apply only to acceleration. That's a pretty big caveat. Proper tires have no such caveat. Obviously, I couldn't quite compete with my friend's WRX, which also had snow tires, but the mustang is still pretty impressive in the snow, all things considered! The only time I spun out was once on slick ice, but that will get you pretty much no matter what setup you're running. Only studs can really save you, on ice, but they're illegal in Michigan, and I think Wisconsin too. It doesn't have to be an either/or proposition. Both is obviously better. But, if you're going to only choose one, you should almost always go with proper tires. Interestingly enough, I do also live on top of a pretty steep hill. Momentum has always gotten me up it, in the winter!

@@kylesonsalla7620 And, on my other Mustang, a 2013 Boss 302, Michelin PS4S have enough traction to put down all 444hp through just the rear wheels. Even in first gear. I was pretty impressed, when I first bought them!

I'm speaking about using AWD for performance reasons. Pretty much all the fastest "street cars" are AWD; And not just in a straight line. Sure, you can get some really good tires but an AWD system with some sticky tires will HOOK.@@Bertinator-nm9ld

Funny, I dropped it off to get a front end alignment. I couldn't stay and came back and picked it up after hours. They didn't say a word to me about it:)

Earlier video says TR6060. And I agree with your opinion of the crazy skills Tim has.

Lincoln lsc mark vii not mustang my bad.

And crank sprocket yes sir 🇺🇸💪🏼🐎

TSS makes the best one... Also Ford Performace makes a good one. The one from the shelby GT500 is solid too

No, when I say American R32, I am referring to layout of the drivetrain. Basically a longitudinal front engine with a variable torque split transfer case. To the best of my knowledge, the R32 GTr was the first to do that.

Thanks, I will get something set up if you want to check it out.