The Worst Class In The Game Is Getting Updated | What Do We Want To See? 

The fact that Elemental Shamans dont yet have a Lightning Storm ability similar to Balance Starfall is beyond me. It should rain lightning around the Shaman, pillars of rock should spike out of the ground and fire should explode from within their targets. Maybe give them the option to be similar to Augmentation with Blood Lust, Lightning Shields and Enhancements on shorter cooldowns and baked into their rotation, and its here Totems become relevant with buffs and utility. Make them more tribal and dark like WC3 Shamans and less like post Cataclysm Thrall.

Even from an aesthetics point of view. I have had to sit and watch Warlocks get green fire and personalized demons while we still have the same elementals and ascendence from way back.

the class tree is trash. Very nicely summarized

Remove Deeply Rooted Elements from the game - from all 3 specializations.

I'm ready to get severely disappointed!

Make Reincarnation a proper cheat death / not count towards M+ timer / 5 minute cd / not lose buffs any of those would be lovely. Insane how the class that lore wise began with it has the worst version of it.

As a shaman main I appreciate the spotlight you've put on the class in the last few videos. I'm sure your voice added with all the others out there helped us finally get some attention. Here's hoping that Tuesday brings good news on all fronts for my blue brothers and sisters out there 🍻

I really feel like shaman is still paying the "bus-shock tax" from all those years ago. Ignored, at least compared to some other classes. It makes me sad, Shaman was the first character I ever made.

Bro ive never played shaman before but why the hell doesnt ele shaman have a cool ass lightning storm ability for aoe??!!

My biggest issue with Shaman as a whole is still thematic. They're the Masters of the Elements yet they can't master them at all, having to specialize into either lightning or fire for the dps specs and water-only for Restoration. Magi as specialists, leave that to them. As an Elemental Shaman, I should be wielding all of their power, not only a single one of them. Where are my water spells? Ice? Earth? Hell, Resto and Enhancement shouls also be mixing more of the elements in their rotations. And on top of that you still have the balance and mechanical problems.

I would like to see the flame shock cooldown removed entirely as well as flame shock spreading to one or more targets when hit by a lava burst. i did some arenas tonight and the most triggering thing ever was playing into a dh and disc priest. the dh removed my flame shocks with his rotational abilities, and the priest ran double dispel. it was hell.

You know what would make more sense than a druids starfall? An ele shaman casting lightning storm, functiona similar to star fall but looks way cooler.

I hope we could get rid of Primordial Wave, its such a lame ass spell, this shit is only alive until now because of the massive haste buff from the talent. The spell itself sucks, a glorified flame shock. Awful for all 3 specs.

I think ele Shaman should get a stack of 4 selected totems to put out in a fight, those provide utility based on the raid/dungeon needs. and you essentially just put them down every 3 minutes. I miss the days when we actually had to select totems and put the little stack down. Also needs to have an actual elemental summon build or an actual flying elements build of just everything going crazy with fire lighting and rock. Some avatar looking things. They can definitely make ele shaman into a proper support class with totems and an elemental raid buff that adds elemental damage to raid attacks throughout

Ive just realized shaman will never be what i want it to be and so i just stopped playing mine. That said id like to see: button bloat fixed, fix dps and durability using the same resource, let me use a 2h weapon, make my dps less random/luck based, and give enhancement more party ENHANCEMENT abilities similarly to Augmentation evoker.

Shaman has way too many buttons and it makes me sick. I'm going to hire a personal hand massager to deal with my carpal tunnel.

I would love overload totem for elemental shaman. Small chance for casters abilities to cast again at 50% effectiveness. Also with farseer and stormbringer being so different there are virtually no spec tree build options for the trees atm.

Only shaman spec I like is resto. An update would be good.

I am just worried that "update packages" sounds more like few minor updates than major rework everyone asks for

So basically blow up ele and look to fire mage for inspiration on defensives. Shaman should have just as many. I can dream can't I.

Fix button bloat would be a nice start

gj izen i love your content keep up the good work

I think Shaman suffers from massive button bloat inc Enh. Totems are a massive problem imo as they take a GCD, are a cooldown, and can be killed. From a pvp perspective Id like to see Enh reach a place similar to the direction of Surv hunter where the idea is to use ranged abilities to set up then a gap closer for a melee burst. That combined with button reduction and rethinking of totems should be enough to fix the spec

Survability is one of the problems but fun is also a problem. As enhancement I feel there are too many buttons and too many procs. If you don't press the right proc you do suboptimal damage. I feel like you need an addon like hekili to do proper damage. And if you are focused on what buttons to press you might not be able to dodge the mechanics. With elemental i feel that you need setup in order to do damage. If you would be able to spread flame shock easier as fire ( I miss chain harvest) or get a free proc of stormbringer from time to time as a nature build might solve some of these issues.

I really enjoy the elemental Playstyle, its not complicated, yet depending on the talents you take you can Either be Heavily fire based, (Which the tier set has forced us to be for 2 seasons) or Lightning based. I think adding a talent similar to the current tier set would be amazing as its what most people have enjoyed about the current spec, But there is also a significant amount of dead talents. I think having both Storm and Fire elemental could be cool and your rotation can change from 1 to the other based on the elemental. As far as defensives, i think another choice node below earth elemental could be fantastic, Something along the lines of Armour of the earth: In dungeons and raids your earth elemental is no longer summoned, instead you gain 20% max health armour and damage reduction for 20 seconds, keep the 5 minute cooldown.

My biggest beef is that there is no class feel between the specs of ELE and ENH. Hunter specs feel different but all shaman feel somehow the same as ELE with spells tacked on for RESTO and ENH. Have been playing ELE half the expansion as we are full on melee and well dps aside being low. There is no reason to play ELE other than you need a ranged dps. Lack of defensive(s) and so many more nit picks.

Another problem with enhance is it is a haste/mastery spec without the defensives to compensate for it not stacking verse, useless revive once ~25min, and hybrid healing that is either basically useless or rather too strong.

You guys still coping to this day Amaziiinnn❤

Enh shaman playstyle is so freakin old school feral cat... hit this, spam that, dont forget this, oh shit im capped. This class killa brain cells....

Enhance rotation is "hit something". It's a huge fucking mess. Some folks love the chaotic, frantic action, but it could absolutely use some coherent design to it. Perhaps even a talent path to make "Enhancement" a melee counterpoint to Aug Evoker. Elemental should be kings of AOE. Layering all the AOE in the toolbox takes a lot of effort, but doing so is completely unrewarding. Other classes Pop wings and spam divine storm, or blade storm, or blade flurry, or blizzard/rain of fire, and soar past ele's who've just planned out a storm keeper, chain lightning, layered earthquakes, and you barely surpass the tank. It,s dumb. Resto just needs a raid buff, IMHO.

i just hope elemental doesn't feel clunky, and i hope i can actually play 2 different builds throughout the expansion. I really liked the stormkeeper and icefury build with the season 2 of dragonflight tierset

Couldn't have said it better myself. more than 1 useful defensive would be nice. More support for wellspring or downpour? Make downpour apply 5 riptide hots? Wellspring applying vigor? Maybe bake some of our utility spells together? Windrush preventing knockback? Make tremor do another effect since fears are completely avoidable already about 99% of the time? Make shields actually matter, like stances or something, or have an interaction with elementals. Possibilities are endless and not hard to spitball and streamline with feedback. We're used to being ignored/forgotten tho don't worry.

Ele and resto Shaman are fun to play exactly because they have so many utility buttons that do different things . The base abilities however are very straightforward . Elementalist enhancement has also a very fun rotation, apart from the very annoying tab targeting and the fact that if you hit the wrong mob on pull (aka one without flame shock) then you wait 5 secs untill you can start doing dps. However i tried all different physical builds on Beta and they rock.

Very good break down.

as resto shaman player (With a rank below 50 in Warcraft Logs) we play shami for chain heal style.Why should they change it? If we like this style

We are also the only dps class without an offensive cooldown... And every capstone talents whether it's a class or tree one is weak.

Enhancement: needs abilities that say, on hit increase movement speed by x stacking say 3times for 6secs while reducing movement slowing effects by x. They need an element/bone type shield. Sundering needs to be as big as an evockers landslide. And earthquake needs to not knock down but slow and reduce those withins armor. Elemental: need to do away with flame shocks cooldown, just reduce how many targets can have it. Give them a fire elemental pet like mages use to have that charges up and the release energy when shaman lava beams or something. Resto, totems need to be more of an impact or less impact on short cds. Make totems combo for cooler abilities or unique things like healing stream with stone skin= equals 50%chain heal once that leaves mini earth shield on those healed. Lots can be done and creative to make it fun, thoughtful, and unique. Finally: they need something like a tornado, fire a tornado in this direction and lift targets into the air. Avoidable but fun and skill shot. You know make each spec the element, enhance:air, ele:fire, resto: water. And they all keep some earth. Idk

Full Rework!

I Resto Shaman main but when I play Elemental, I have always hated how you are forced to do a Flame Shock/Lava Burst build. I found a way to do a Lightning/Electric Shock build that is fun to play and creates some satisfying combos and completely removes flame shock/lava burst. Of course it is not strong enough to raid or do mythics with but it is good for open world content and questing. If Shamans are masters of the elements, then there should be viable builds that don't force fire. I wish it was set up that you can make a build that excluded all fire or all lightning or all frost so that you feel more like an elemental specialist. I also agree with his talk about Earth Shock. I would like to see more difference between Earth Shock and Elemental Blast. I like how fast and instant Earth Shock, they need to bring that back.

There is absolutely no reason windfury totem should not be a baseline ability / utility for the class

Ok, last one: CHAIN LIGHTNING SHOULD BE USED AS A SINGLE TARGET AND AOE SPELL, LIGHTNING BOLT SUCKS, STOP THE BUTTON BLOAT!!!!

Great analysis, i Main this class and you get the point(s).

Hey guys… I used to play shaman but I accidentally wrote a caprice, so I’m swapping to Hunter, monk and pally for TWW.

Yes brother there is still hop!

Complete rework needed: I can only play resto, that has some solid baseline we can work with but other 2 specs hell no. I feel Enhancement is more elementally than Elemental 😂 totems are nonexistent except Resto, visuals are meh, button bloat insane. Like cmon, everyone who played for atleast few years either clearly sees there are some favourite classes and specs or is in denial. The amount of work some classes or specs get compared to ones like shaman is insane.

In addition: stop spliting fire from lightning. Shaman used to be a mix of elements. Stop making it like mage. And that last 2 tier sets oblie ppl taking determined talents. It doesnt make sense having talents if ppl are forced to take determines ones

shaman has the potential to be one of the coolest classes in the game, yet blizzard pushes it to the back of the line and shits on it lmao

They should rework LIghtning shield to work as def cd. and make so earth elemental raises hp of all party or raid members but adjust duration, or maybe give earthshield 5% DR .and rework spirit wolf talent.. u have to spend 4-5 sec to get 20% DR its so bad .There is plenty of things that they need to fix talent wise and rotation wise(for ele)

Don’t re-work shaman….. just nerf fire mage more! That will bring up Shaman DPS and HEALS

More interaction with elementals as an elemental shaman >.>

Too much RNG, too many buttons and not enough survivability - there’s so much they could do with earth shield etc

Visuals!! we want new visuals!! We still use Caraclysm shaman visuals (the current classic).!!!!!!!!!

i gave up trying to make shaman work and viable since s1 of shadowlands. trust me izen, let the class go they'll only dissapoint with sham.

There's still hop

I'm baffled you left out Flurry. Two specs out of tree can't even use it since they aren't melee. No other class or spec in the game has talents in their class tree that are totally unusable.

just get rid of the totems. The whole mecanic is just button bloating and mobility killing as you are supposed to stay near the totem. Go the evoker way like they do with the dragon flights but with elementals. Like heal can have Water and Earth, elem can have Fire and Wind and enhancement can have wind and storm or something in this idea. then talents adds abilities to the elems like for the wings of paladin. I really hate totems and seeing blizzard doing a whole hero spec around it just made me stop considering the class as a main char

Swapped from Unholy to Enh in DF because unholy is unplayable without PI. Now i wanna do 15s with enh and its impossible to get into groups because ppl tell me im to squishy and ask me how much avoidance i have

Been mostly playing resto and ele then played some as enhance today and my god its the most frustrating experience ive ever had in gaming. Slow waddling towards people kited forever with only pitiful lunge on a 25 yard range every 30 seconds.. And a 1 min cd sprint IF you spend talents on it.. Far lower than every other melee in terms of damage, survivability and mobility. Only form of survivability comes from self heals, which are gimped with dampening and useless if you cant get uptime to generate maelstrom anyway, plus its an extra GCD worked in after ever spender that comes from a MANDATORY pvp talent ffs. Everything about the spec reeks of contempt and neglect from blizz. Its like the designed a spec that has all of the downsides of both melee and caster and none of the strengths of either.

Shamans are trying to be too many things and failing at them all and everything feels outdated and needs to be synchronized so that abilities work together and not have to focus on one button to do damage no matter if it's lightning or fire, for example ele shaman literally does better just spamming chain lightning and earthquake is weak and easily wasted when tank moves mob out of its small hit box. On top of trying to be a totem master, ascended being, and elemental pet master at the same time but can't do all of them together because they don't work together, enhance is close with ascendance and wolves kinda synergizing one boosting the other is some ways. And the elemental summons are supposed to be some major cd that does literally nothing here's a fire ele that increase flame shock duration....great what does the greater elemental do, it drops a meteor that does less then a single chain lightning and can only use it once gg. Storm ele has a bad ass lightning ability that is strong but too long a cd and not strong enough to beat liquid magma totem so yeah gg. Then there's the other cd ascendance, where it's proc is better then the actual power it gives. So dre is always better then a 3 min cd for only 15 sec that does little to 0 dps increase

please talk about second worst class: Rogue.... it need attencion as well... it's the least played class in DF for a reason.

Downtime one sec you're spamming 3 buttons at the same time and the next you're afk because skills are on CD and you have no maelstrom... Extra defensive or atleast for enhancement make maelstrom heals actually heal something it's a joke compared to paladin word of glory while paladin ressource management is way easier... Fix useless ankh Elem would really like the same mechanic as enhance to spread fire dot with lava burst Basicaly they need a rework like pals got at the end of S1

Resto shaman is awesome

bring elemental oath back for elemental they need a raid buff

Tank shaman!

nah, there are worst. But good they will update finally

Make Astral shift 1 min cd , uncap Chain lightning and Feral charge base line and im good

its going to be the best class lols

isn't Rogue in a worst position than shaman? Like mechanically seems way less functional than shaman. Am i wrong?

Idk, man. I kinda like my enh, mained it for 4 df seasons. Having 22% versa and 80% mastery with 35% haste its really good and tanky. Can't do much against one shots most of the time, but for other aoe, I can just heal myself and others. On the other hand, tho yes, if i see myself on top of the dps, I know the team might be underperforming, but that's not always the case.

Resto Shaman...is easily the worst. The fact totemic rsham is decent, doesn't mean the spec as a whole is good at all, just hot Garbo. Also tierset doesn't synergize at all with totemic, only farseer. Also the base kit is just awful.

IDEA: Shaman party/raid buff "Spirit of the Pack" 5-7% movement speed

Normally love these videos but I think you counting the trees rather than having a small script ready was very repetitive and boring :(

The thumb nail reminds me of your English,… Still Hop,…..😂😂😂😂 get a better editor bro move that shammy over so we can see the E

first one

Just errase Shamanxd