The Worst & Most Disturbing Arguments for Religion 

Only religion can convince someone that they are inherently sick or evil for simply EXISTING, and need to be fixed. Only religion can convince someone of that kind of cruelty

With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil - that takes religion.” ― Steven Weinberg

Tate, Russell Brand, Ben Shapiro, Matt Walsh, and apparently Jordan Peterson have become outright conmen and grifters, all trying to prove how religious they are, even of that means wildly gesticulating the definition of basic words. Brand now wearing his double crosses makes me sick to my stomach, I can't see him for more than a few seconds. I'd rather be trapped in an elevator with a Crocodile.

I think Andrew has taken a few too many hits in the head.

Andrew Tate: Claiming that others have lost "baseline morality". Also Andrew Tate: Facing criminal investigation on Human Trafficking and sexual exploitation in Romania.

I've known this since my 15th year of life. I've been telling others what I know for 50 years. I have saved a few people from their dogmatic upbringing, but many many more have slipped away. The one constant in determining ones ability to escape is the ability to properly understand science. The one constant I have found in Christians who take their religion seriously is the absolute acceptance, even a reverence for ignorance. They take pride in denying scientific fact, even going as far as declaring that knowledge is the tool of Satan. I find them pathetically childish.

If we lived in a religious based world, would Tate still be allowed to drink alcohol , smoke cigars, and sleep with multiple women?

Fucking hell the only thing that could have made Andrew Tate any worse is him trying to sound intelligent and spewing this nonsense. Thanks for this video. What a horribly dangerous character.

So if I help an old lady across the street, somewhere else in the world is an old lady falling down?

The worst most disturbing arguments for religion... All of them.

Faith is indistinguishable from stupidity and a licence for liars and charlatans to exploit the fearful, desperate vulnerable. Foolish beliefs cause foolish behaviour, it doesn't matter who holds them or where they come from...

Religion is the biggest threat to mankind. Period.

Say what you will about the sweet miracle of unquestioning faith, I consider a capacity for it terrifying and absolutely vile. ~Kurt Vonnegut

When people talk to their false beliefs of a sky daddy and then go fight. The fight is now a false belief of a sky daddy fight. Your false beliefs vs the other persons false beliefs.

I don’t have a problem with those who don’t hold a literal belief of their religion and have the ability to modernize their religious beliefs to fit modern moral values. But those who hold a literal belief of their religion are some of the most dangerous and cruelest creatures ever to human flourishing and human progress.

superstition - noun 1a: a belief or practice resulting from ignorance, fear of the unknown, trust in magic or chance, or a false conception of causation b: an irrational abject attitude of mind toward the supernatural, nature, or God resulting from superstition 2: a notion maintained despite evidence to the contrary Merriam-Webster

As social creatures we are hard-wired to feel empathy, and are inclined towards altruism and compassion. That is the foundation of moral-ethical thinking and development. Nothing supernatural or metaphysical needed. To not feel empathy is a significant pathology-- a sociopath. The whole "Original Sin/we are ontologically inclined towards the bad" becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. And frankly, it seems like a type of child abuse to raise one thinking that of themselves. If you only don't murder because you're afraid of eternal punishment you're not actually a good person, you're a criminal being held in check.

I fear people who don't believe in intrinisc morality feel this way because they don't believe in their own morality.

Religion is the main threat for humanity.

Tate is poisonous. He's had such a negative effect on the young men of the world. We had to "deconstruct" our son's appalling views of women that are straight from Tate's foul, ignorant, abusive mouth. Thankfully, now our son is maturing and starting to figure out some of life's complexities for himself.

"Religion began when the first scoundrel met the first fool." "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." -- Voltaire

There are videos of him without sunglasses? Seriously though he is a nutcase.

This is one of the most valuable videos I've ever seen on youtube! I seriously hope it gets people thinking

If he is the good side,we are screwed.

If you read the Koran and Hadiths and reliance you will never become a Muslim,,

The political extremism of the 2020s isn't even funny anymore; it's just creepy.

Tate is not a sincere believer, he is a grifter trying to push concepts for his own perceived benefit.

"A doctrine insulates the devout not only against the realities around them but also against their own selves. The fanatical believer is not conscious of his envy, malice, pettiness and dishonesty. There is a wall of words between his consciousness and his real self." ~Eric Hoffer

Cancer is a big threat to humanity. Believing in childhood fairy tales is a big threat to humanity. Therefore, making the second comment the same as the first.

His first argument doesn't stand true because his example is taken out of content.

Basically, listening to Andrew Tate on pretty much any subject, requires soft padded gloves so you don't hurt yourself facepalming. This is no exception.

We are not all to know. Religion removes all opportunities to experience true spirituality. No one can use words to explain this.

Whilst in prison together one tate brother becomes a Muslim and the other an orthodox Christian, covers both demographic in the grift

This is amazing content... excited for whats next!

The only problem I have with this video is that I disagree that religion isn't inherantly evil, and that dogmatism is the problem, when in reality religion IS by its very nature DOGMATIC and it is religion that breeds fanaticism and violence against non believers. It's time to stop crediting religion with good things like art, poetry, community, belief in an afterlife, belief in a god, and so on. When religion was never needed for any of these things to begin with. I also think it's time people who use religion as a crutch to be better people or help them cope with death get proper therapy and treatment to deal with these things without religion as well.

3:25 he’s not even a good religious person because he’s idolized the book and not the god which the book says he should not do. I’m an agnostic atheist.

I mean, I seriously appreciate what you are doing here. It is important. And the video definitely found its spot in one of my playlists about religion. But the "innate moral values" just throws me off. "Innate" and "value" just don't go together. There just is no evaluation in a simple neurological stimulus reaction, which is what's innate. The evaluation only comes second, and it is contingent upon upbringing and the value systems we've been taught. Stimulus reaction is objective. Evaluating it is subjective, hence not innate.

Religon is the placibo for the non thinking person.

These extreme apologetics are not only ignorant and dangerous but also intentionally scaring and imposing fears to justify their irrational thoughts.

Andrew Tate is a wicked person.

Religion did not invent morality. You don't need religion to be a good person. You simply decide to be a good person.

He's on the right track about one thing, though. If you pick and choose from your sacred text, you're a hypocrite. Own it or get out, at least you will be sincere. If you can tell by yourself which are the good bits and which you must interpret, then you don't need religion.

I recently read an article on primate behaviour - more specifically on the reconciliation and de-conflicting methods macaque monkeys use in their social groups. It suggests that natural selection favoured cooperation, altruism and obedience. There are two behavioural types - the tolerant and the despotic types. The tolerant types easily go with the flow at any cost whilst the despotic ones become leaders and set the standards. I can see this behaviour playing out in human society - eg, in Russia where obedience to a (despotic) leader is so hard wired - to avoid conflict (imprisonment). Religions provide a despotic figure and the tolerant types have to accept without question what is dictated in the holy book - or face eternal damnation. You need to study evolution, particularly the evolution of mankind from primates and realise that we have evolved intrinsic behaviours suitable for social societies and these have nothing to do with a creator. The creator appeared only recently (100,000 years ago?) in the imaginations of advanced societies all around the World.

You can tell Andrew Tate is right wing as hell

While I agree with everything else, I can't help but point out the danger of seeing morality as being based around what is advantages for us as a species. People can and did for example argue for the murder of disabled people using this argument, bringing it ad absurdum, since acts like that are generally seen as evil. There is no clear way of attributing behaviours to evolutionary effects, since our brain is so niche and overdeveloped at this point, I'd wish you could have clarified more, that these theories of yours are just that.

Isnt it blasphemy to say Gods power is equal, not greater, than Satans?

*Morality* hasn't changed, our *understanding* of morality has changed. If morality has changed then there wouldn't be such thing as a moral progress, because there would be no objective moral standard that we are approaching to call it a progress.

without a doubt the most immoral ,unethical friend I 've ever had was a so called christian who loved "god" with all her heart.. I had to sever ties after 33 years of listening to her nonsense ,who blamed Satan for every disgusting thing she did

I am a moderate nationalist and think Andrew Tate is nuts, Blessed be.

Would love to see Matt dillahunty or Sam harris vs Tate 😅

What a sad, small dark world full of ignorance, mysticism and superstition these theists inhabit.

I mean he's a $3* trafficker after all, that even steals from those traficked.

"WhAt cOloUr Is yOUr bUghAttI?"

I disagree that evil is a force its an adjective

The prison system forces the ideology of these false ideologies of floating sky daddies in the sky.

Andrew Tate is just a joke.

I think you are charitable in assuming he is using Newton's 3rd Law as a metaphor. I believe that he really thinks it applies, and is using it as concrete evidence for his argument. I'm not 100% sure, but I think it more likely than not.

Keep up the good work!

Ironic he uses an analogy about two islands, one being an unbelieving cannibalistic island, and the other being a religious potentially cannibalistic Island. First off he forgot about the third island, the one where there is no God belief but no cannibalistic Tendencies either. I would rather choose that one if I had no other information, because at least I wouldn't have to worry about being subjugated by religious laws even if I was allowed to survive. He also forgot about the fourth island where it is religious but they would want to put me to death or mistreat me because I'm LGBT. Oh wait, I am living on an island with people that are like that, it's called the continent of North America where people like Andrew Tate live. Good thing morality has improved enough where I don't have to worry about people like Andrew Tate having their way with me. Also he claims Islam is an evil religion. I wonder why he comes to that conclusion, is it because of the actions that are informed by some of their religious beliefs? Does Andrew not realize that other people View his beliefs in the same way, especially people who have in fact been harmed because of those beliefs? Muslims get most of their morality from the same set of laws that Andrew quotes from when he condemns homosexuality. And Andrew condemns the pope for being more passive towards LGBT people, makes me wonder out of the over 600 laws that the Moses character was said to have given, I wonder if in Andrews day-to-day life since he has been christian, I wonder if he lives up to par with every last one of those over 600 laws. I'd be willing to bet the answer is no. But he's willing to point out the flaws and other Christians. The man with a beam in his eye who is criticizing another man because he sees a splinter in his.

why do people adore a being that is just as likely to torture them and their families for making errors..sick (lucky it is just made up superstitions nonsense.

Yeah and tate is getting prosecuted for human trafficking if true not very Christian.

He decided to quit thinking for himself; just follow what’s in an old book! Never mind there are a lot of old books, many of which contradict the others (or that some parts of the book contradicts other parts in the same book). Outsourcing his personal morality is not a good thing.

Fail at the first hurdle, Tait correctly states the underlying philosophy of Newton which led to the 3rd law, it all just goes over this pitiful "debunker".

" All the evil in the world is being counted by ". As a lot of the evil in the world is being supplied by the religious extremists, god isn't doing a very good job.

Unfortunately when so many young men feel isolated from their societies, and are being told the society is fine, they are the problem, people like Tate can throw them a message that resonates with them. Unfortunately because in the west we are no longer allowed nuance or discussion of uncomfortable issues, if a person does 99 good deeds but 1 bad deed we have to ignore or discredit the 99 good deeds. Some of what Tate says does provide a positive message for young men, the same as Jordan Peterson, unfortunately it's seems beyond many people to be able to distinguish between the things being said and the person saying them. An absurd example of this are autobahns/freeways inherently evil because they are a fascist invention? Of course not, they serve a function. Likewise, not everything a person says is good or bad.

That first clip of him in the first minute is him asserting that there is evil... but won't acknowledge that people perpetrated it and why they did... most of the acts of terror and hatred (evil) come from bigoted povs or anger because people couldn't get along. Whats the first reason they can't get along? 1- Assumptions of what the other person said rather than what they said 2- believing in erroneous ideas... such as doing a bad deed will get you something. Yes, it will bring you torment (forget those that can't grasp this.. that's a minority and they're Very much appealed by religious extremists... not secular extremism... that doesn't exist. Is there a good reason for lying for example? Yes. To defend Life itself. Is there a good reason for killing? Same answer. It's not terribly complicated and children can easily come to these conclusions if they're nurtured and cared for. This paradigm can only exist if there are no lies out of ignorance.. most children would choose to part ways with it if they're given the choice after several years. They can drag themselves out of the fear imparted by parents that tell them that hell awaits. The ONLY argument that is hard to dismiss from theology is "why be good if you don't get punishment" so they argue against morality... Secular people KNOW that being good to others makes you reliable, more pleasant, don't have this option of evil in your kit/wouldn't prioritize it unless you have done it over and over (force of habit). Doing something morally wrong like selling sex like this turd did (he's a sex trafficker, btw... one sin in Islam... he should be punished for it in this life as well as after, but hey that's a detail right?). Anyways... deflect, atk, ignorance, petulance.. terrifying combo.

12:02 Are you serious? He's a grifter. It's the first move of the abusive dude handbook. When in trouble run to religion for forgiveness. Usually they'll get it. Did you see that pastor who's abusee called him out during a sermon just to be chastised by the congregation? Shia just pulled this and I have a feeling Diddy will as well.

Does he have a condition? It is super weird that he's wearing sunglasses while being interviewed. If he doesn't have an eye condition, then that is a sign of someone hiding something.

The way you speak is amazing. How can I be as smart as you?

This vile bully should in jail

well spoken

Steven Weinberg created that analogy by leaving out the 4th part of the statement, that is, for evil people to do good, that also takes religion.

Someone who Chose to follow Islam religion already tells everything from that person.

Andrew likes to think he is intellectually deep. But the the island story makes an illogical leap. If you aren't killed because the natives say it is against their religion doesn't mean that god saved you. Andrew assumes that the natives religion is based around a deity, like a god or allah. But what if the natives worship the sun or trees or mother earth? Did god save you then? It doesn't logically follow.

That person is, indeed, (more than) morally bankrupt.

Unless I am mistaken, isn’t tate under investigation for peedoh crimes? I may be wrong but that’s what I have heard.

He sounds as if he should have studied Zoroastrian philosophy, with duality of a deity having good/evil mechanisms from the divine planes. We’re just a part of the wonder of celestial presence.

How fucked up is this Tate?

Morality is led by self-preservation and empathy for other sentient beings who deserve the same good treatment you yourself deserve.

Listening to anything Andrew Tate has to say about anything is akin to heeding advice from game show hosts about life insurance.

Great video

How about what Billy Carson researched

I consider myself an agnostic leaning towards atheism but the reason why I haven't switched sides completely is because I can't explain what happens to those people who start doing weird things when pastorspray to them . Can someone please please help me debunk this as an argument for the existence of God

He's using Demons and Devils to defend his moral argument? That is so lame and childish, to keep blaming Demons and Devils for one's cause. Always putting the blame on something you CAN'T POROVE. Whomever this guy is, addressing his moral argument, is like trying to debate why Kermit and Ms. Piggy couldn't quite get along with each other. Leave that for the kids watching to figure that out. (Childish) Religion/Christian has not one leg to stand on when it comes to defending the moral argument in favor of their God and their faith. Christian fundamentalist still can't explain/defend John 14:12-14 "He who believes in me..." Not a single Christian has what it takes to walk the walk, but they love to talk.

Morality is irrelevant. Values, needs and desires aren’t. Morality is forced on people and expected to be ALWAYS respected. Is an obligation. Just like rules, principles and laws. Values, desires and needs are flexible. Be flexible I don’t mean they can be put aside. I mean that they are flexible.

You nailed it.

Does Andrew Tate think the force of good that comes from God is equal to the world's forces of evil, or does he think God is omnibenevolent and omnipotent? Because it can't be both.

Andrew Tate's apologetics are so awful. How does anyone fall for this?

If you agree that morality exists (which I think it does) then it is either innate to us or from a God. Either way morality exists, thus, atheists can be moral.

He is the son of a chess grandmaster ex CIA agent… I am not surprised about anything he thinks or has to say.

Hey Andrew……Which god?

The reach and influence of Jesus Christ should be impressive.

6:12 The word you should have used here is, "cohesion". "Group cohesion". Not, "coercion".

Andrew Tate on religion😂😂😂😂wgaf???

I think Tate identifies as a male. You can call him a man, instead of person. 😉👍

Homeboy, stop attacking Christianity and Face Islam lil bro!!

ahh man, he's doing this cause religious peoples will give sympathy!

Very good. I'll sub.. Too late I already have.

Coming from a convicted trafficker

Hilariously infantile arguments!🤣