The Saints Williams trade also includes what might be the Worst Trade That Never Happened since it is said they offered all of the picks to the Bengals first who turned them down so they could draft Akili Smith
@@lukefreund08 That might not even be their worst, David Klingler was just as bad, and Kijana Carter had even worse injury problems. Peter Warrick feel way short of expectations as well, and so did John Ross. He could almost do a whole video on Bengals first rounders just covering the 80's, 90's, & 2010's.
Yep. Would have been even worse if that had happened. Washington at least took a HOF corner with those picks. Cincy in the 90's would have picked nothing but crap. That was Mike Brown's drafting skills.
The only trade I can think that belongs on this list that wasn't mentioned was the STL-WSH trade that landed WSH RG3, it didn't go well and then a few years later when the two teams played, the captains of STL to come out to the field for the opening coin toss were the six players picked from the picks WSH gave up. Jeff Fisher was a lot of things for STL, but this troll job was LEGENDARY.
RG3 was the OROY that year and had the highest rookie passer rating and TD/int ratio at that time. The problem was his stupid coach sent him back into the game when he was already injured, and he got seriously injured.
Lets not forget that after the 2 years with the Vikings, Walker went back to the the Cowboys and performed like he did before he got traded in the first place
Yeah, when he went back, they had Emmitt Smith, so Herschel was just a third down back & kick returner. He played good when they used him, but there was no need for him to be a full time starter anymore.
Part of the reason the trubisky trade was so bad is because San Francisco WASNT drafting a QB. The bears sold the farm (or at least all the equipment) just so another hypothetical team didnt trade up in front of them instead.
Yeah but that happens all the time. Teams don’t typically make that kind of deal unless they have intel that another team was definitely going to trade up for that pick if they didn’t do it themselves.
If I was a GM I would call teams and bluff about moving up or picking the player they want, just to get them to do something stupid...then laugh like hell.. especially to teams in our division I would mess with them constantly... Is that wrong?
The Tunsil trade completely changed the trajectory of the Dolphins. One of the Texans 1st rounders turned into the pick that the 49ers traded 3 first for. That trade gave the Dolphins Waddle, Hill and Chubb.
yes but tunsil has been what we wanted, so obviously the trade didnt go in our favor but hes been a 4 time pro bowler for us so hindsight is the only reason this stings
Thank you for starting this list with Steve Largent. When you go back on film, it boggles my mind how smooth he played (no gloves by the way) and how easy he could at times make it look getting past the defender. The guy was a QB's best friend and for a young franchise like Seattle, that's probably the best compliment you could give him. Also the fact he would walk into the stadium alongside regular fans endeared him heavily to the Seattle area. When you think of how Houston couldn't get past that Steeler wall in the AFC and the fact they let a Hall of Famer go for that cheap...
I think the Bears-Panthers trade this year should be up there. - Caleb Williams or Marvin Harrison Jr., 2022 9th overall pick (The favorite for DROTY was taken here), DJ Moore and 2 2nds for Bryce Young, who has been awful and likely doesn't have the size for the position.
There's no reason to talk about it much yet when year 1 isn't complete. Bryce has looked more competent without Reich (even if he faced a Joe Barry defense) and he's got zero supporting cast. Despite that, he's still put up 2 game winning drives (and Carolina had 2 from 2018-2022 iirc). He needs reinforcements badly and I'm hoping Carolina obliges.
I definitely think this one is pretty bad, I think the fact it doesn't have as much long term effect makes it not as bad as others for sure, but yeah they really messed that one up.
What’s crazy about the Hopkins trade is the cards were desperate to shed Johnson’s’ salary. They had no takers since he was over the hill but then boom a star receiver for basically nothing.
One deal from back in the day that should be on this list, or at least close to it, was the 1970 Paul Warfield trade. Not only did this trade help the Dolphins win 2 super bowl titles, including a perfect season, but the reason the Browns made this trade in the first place was so that they could acquire QB Mike Phipps. As a general rule, i feel like whatever you think its worth giving up to acquire a potential franchise QB, trading away your no 1 receiver is a really really bad idea, since it makes said rookie's job a lot harder than it otherwise needs to be
The Russ trade probably wouldn’t even be top 5 if it wasn’t for the stupid extension. But considering the extension was more than likely part of Russ signing in denver, it’s justifiably lumped together.
I can think of a Bears QB trade that was worse than Trubisky: in 1997 they gave up a first round pick to get Rick Mirer from Seattle. He didn't even last until mid-season, and was released in 1998. The Seahawks got the 11th overall pick in 1997 out of the deal, and traded up to 3rd overall to draft CB Shawn Springs.
The bears are famous for trading their first round pick for magic beans. They add no talent through the draft and then they cannot figure out why they suck.
@@michaelgerhardt7130Bears are also famous for drafting poor at QB. So it's not surprising to me in hindsight that they traded for a QB Bill Walsh once remarked as maybe the next Joe Montana. Oof on that comparison. But the fact they gave up a first back then to me was like, tell whoever in Seattle made that trade to go to Vegas because that luck was unreal.
Fun fact Steve largent wasn’t just the all time leader in receiving yards when he retired he was the all time leader in reception and receiving touchdowns as well
This is a great list. As a Giants fan, I have to put the Craig Morton trade in there. They acquired him in the middle of the 1974 season in exchange for a package of picks that included a 1975 first-round pick, which ended up being the #2 overall pick because the Giants were so bad. The Cowboys used the 1975 #2 overall pick to draft Hall of Fame defensive tackle Randy White. Morton was terrible with the Giants, and then to add insult to injury, they traded him to Denver and he made it to a Super Bowl there. The 1970's Giants were horrendous.
The Hershel Walker trade is the worst because the Walker deal included MORE picks if the players traded to the Cowboys got cut. Which, they did. The trade made the NFL draft a cornerstone market to be taken seriously as opposed to the cavalier way it was treated before. The cowboys ended up with around 4-6 extra picks because the players traded to them didnt make ANY of the benchmarks that would have allowed the Vikings to keep their draft capital. Still beats out the Watson trade, because the Browns are competing much sooner than the Vikings did. Other than that, great list.
How is the AJ Brown trade not on here? The Titans went to the AFC Championship then were the first seed in the AFC traded Brown and went 7 and 10 and have been shit since
I keep hearing they coach great... while they throw out their best but wt are they actually doing with their personnel? They rebuilding or making a retirement home for Henry? I don't get it. The past two seasons have been painful, seemingly self-inflicted.
In 2009, the Bears traded a second round pick to Tampa for former #4 overall pick, DE Gaines Adams. The guy never had a sack for Chicago and sadly died the next year of an enlarged heart. That second round pick was passed around two more times and wound up with the Pats, who selected some guy named Rob Gronkowski.
There's 2 other bits that make the Watson trade even worse. Baker is playing good ball down in Tampa (also played well in LA last year). And of course the Joe Flacco situation. They got the guy off his couch and he's playing significantly better than Watson despite the "rust" and being quite a bit older than Watson. Not to mention Flacco got the Browns a playoff berth and unlocked Njoku finally.
Flacco is playing in the exact same system he played his whole career in Baltimore in as Gary kubiak was his offensive coordinator and stephankski comes from that coaching tree it’s meant to make tight ends thrive ( Dennis pitta) how the chief is in Cleveland now also half of those wins from the playoff birth came from Watson who is 5-1 as a starter and Flacco is 4-1 with a chance to match his total at seasons end… stop being prisoners of the moment and on your feelings about a man who was proven innocent of all accused of it’s disgusting.
The difference between what Dallas did with all their draft picks in the Walker deal and what Washington did with their picks from the Williams deal is absolutely astonishing. Dallas ended up with multiple franchise players for years propelling them to multiple Super Bowls, whereas Washington got a decent LB for a few years and an above average RT for a decade which provided no success.
I can see the Saints picking up Russ. Carr is washed, so they are going to need a new QB. I don't see the Falcons picking up Russ because they are likely going to stick with Ridder for at least one more season. Panthers already have their hopeful franchise QB, and the Bucs are doing solid with Baker so far.
Trey Lance had trouble’s with SF because the QB coach at the time was leaking Trey’s struggles to the press, and Trey even admitted that he was getting help in Dallas that he wasn’t getting in SF
I thought that looked awful before a single snap was played. You don’t sell everything but the kitchen sink for a project quarterback from North Dakota State. Especially when you have Jimmy Garoppolo, who was a fit for the system when healthy. That’s a pick that could’ve been a first rounder had they not made the trade, and I could’ve accepted the potential of it without the benefit of hindsight. If this were any other organization the coaching staff and front office would be gutted
Everybody on the coaching staff gave Brock more looks and more guided help before we even knew how good he was. Brock also said that he wouldn’t have been ready for that Dolphins game if Trey hadn’t been helping him to the weeks leading up to Jimmy’s injury
@@nicholasselke5214 They tried with Jimmy G for several years, he was not enough to win a ring. They needed something better, and its gunna be the same case for the 49ers this year too. Unless you have a star QB, the chances of winning the only thing that matters in the end is slim, as history shows us.
I’m not so sure they cut him, at least this offseason. Any general manager who chooses to incur a dead cap hit of $85 million should be ousted and blacklisted from professional sports or any financial management position. They might seek a trade partner but you just don’t incur that massive of a dead cap hit for a player who had a touchdown to interception ratio better than 3:1 If you’re out of the playoff race, or barely hanging on by a thread, it makes sense to take a look at the backup quarterback Besides, if Russ is to be cut, I’d think he would be inactive for the final two games instead of QB2
walker trade should always be number one, If for no other reason than the media roasted jimmy johnson Is and jerry jones so bad for it, Sports media has never been as wrong as it was about that day
As a giants fan with no other team to root for, I would go full all in on the Flacco, but then I remember the predator gets a ring. Though on second thought, Flacco getting a ring puts a cherry on top of this downyear of a football season
He beat every case emphatically with court documents to prove it was a money grab yet yall still call him a predator seems really weird to hate on a guy that was never criminally convicted of anything or civilly proven to commit such acts he didn’t even be want to pay off the women because he was so innocent but to put his team first he did anyway and yall over here hating on him why again?
Brett Favre was an alcoholic in Atlanta so I believe if the Falcons kept him he would have been a career backup. Therefore I think it rightfully doesn’t belong in this list . I would say the Colts giving a 1/3 for Carson Wentz was one of those “what the hell?!? trades” as well as Sam Bradford from the Eagles to Vikings for a 1/4 was extremely head scratching . Both of those were the Eagles sending an ineffective injured quarterback for 1st round picks.
Actually, Bradford played well in his first season in Minnesota. It was his injury in the second season that hurt. If he had stayed healthy that year, the Vikings would have been the first team to play a Superbowl in their home stadium.
@@shawnjohnson9763 Bradford was hot garbage from the start. He tricked many in his first year with what appears to be highly efficient play but in reality the man was nothing more than a check-down king, racking up high completion percentage and a good TD-INT ratio but he couldn't push his offense down the field. He was the epitome of the shortcoming of the NFL rating system, which gives a QB who goes 3 for 3 for 9 yards (and a 4th down punt) a higher passer rating than a QB who goes 1 for 3 for 33 yards (with a new set of downs 33 yards closer to the end zone).
@22steve5150 He did a lot of check downs that year because he had to learn the offense on the fly and had no offensive line. He started the second year on fire but got injured. He would have been way better than Keenum.
@@shawnjohnson9763 I don't know about his second year development prior to injury, but I watched him play on team after team once he became a journeyman and he played the same way he did his rookie year. Great for a backup and decent for a run first team, but he was way too much about small-ball and it kept leading to good stats in low scoring losses and that is what did in his career. Now it's not all his fault, if he just for some reason never got out of that mindset from his first year, the team GMs could have at least set up offenses to take advantage of his strengths and minimize the weaknesses, namely develop a tough running game and get small, nimble receiving targets who specialize in catching short and evading a tackle or two to extend the play on YAC yardage.
I know everyone is probably thinking that the panthers Bryce young draft was not the worst ever but just the fact that we got rid of CMC, DJ and other draft picks for a QB that was good collage no doubt but is undersized and a huge part of his game was going to be taken away deserves to be a honorable mention.
We should wait. We're going to have to see what the Panthers make with Bryce Young, because it's clear that he's actually a pretty good quarterback who has literally nothing to work with.
@@DoctorCyanyeah, it's the latter part of your statement that makes it a bad trade. We are possibly crippling Bryce's career by removing all his weapons before he even gets off the ground.
Washington Redskins used one of those picks to draft Chris Samuels who played in 6 pro bowl games. They also drafted Champ Bailey 9 overall with the Saints pick. We won the trade but Snyder and the Redskins front office were such a disgrace......
Of all the trades...That Ricky Williams trade would be close to number 1 in every list...if washington didnt drop the ball on all their acquired draft picks
As a Bears fan, i will always hate the Trubisky trade. Add to that the Chase Claypool trade too. A terrible wr living off 1 good season. That was Poles' first big miss off him at GM.
Thank you for mentioning the Claypool trade. That belongs on here over Mitch. At least Mitch has the following accolades: highest single season QB rating for a Bears QB, only Bears QB to throw for 300+ yds in a playoff game and most recent Bears QB to make a Pro Bowl(which broke a league worst 33yr streak of no Pro Bowl selections for a Bears QB).
Only if he does anything with the rest of his career if he is, in fact, a bust washington would come out on top considering they were going to cut him regardless
@jasonedwards6501 that I agree with more I liked sweat but to be fair washington was never going to pay him 98 mil over 4 years ots the 5th most expensive contract for a rusher behind only the bosas, watt, and garret
As a Vikings fan, the Hershel Walker trade should be on top. The picks that built the Dallas dynasty are just the tip of the iceberg. As my uncle would tell me every year during xmas we also traded a bunch of good players that we could not resign after Dallas cut them. This traded is the main reason Chris Carter does not have a ring.
I’d say the trade for Bryce should have been up there. The Panthers traded away DJ Moore, the pick that turned out to be Jalen Carter, and their pick next year, which will most likely be the number 1 pick. DJ Moore and Jalen Carter have been lighting it up, while Bryce Young has sucked and they also lost the rights to draft Caleb or Marvin Harrison Jr.
It's not a major blunder but the Cardinals giving up a first rounder for Hollywood Brown was pretty silly since the Ravens ended up trading back and getting their guy at Center while it was speculated The Cards would deal Hollywood at the trade deadline.
I love that lions hoodie I have one just like it. I also have #20 Lions jersey signed by Barry but it has Sims on the back and another #20 signed by Billy but it has Sanders on the back
The Walker trade was more important for the history of the NFL while the Watson trade was worse. The Walker trade made the draft what it is today but it was only a historically bad trade because of the Super Bowls the cowboys won.
Seattle fan here, where is the Jamal Adams trade on this? Both the picks we traded away turned into defensive and offensive rookies of the year, and Adams has played maybe 19 games
The Bears #1 pick to Carolina going to be the worst ever. #1 pick in '23 for #9 and #61 in '23. #1 in '24 and whatever they get for trading it this year. A second-round next year, and DJ Moore.
I feel like David Boston needs to be an honorary mention for multiple trades. Finishes out his rookie contract and the Chargers sign him to a 7 year, $47 million contract with $13 million guaranteed in 2003! NOBODY was getting guaranteed money back then. Played 14 games with the Chargers until Marty suspended him & traded him to the Dolphins for a 6th round pick. He didn’t even make it out of camp for the Dolphins before testing positive for steroids & suspended for 4 games. Then he tore his knee ligaments before he was even served his suspension. Out for the season. Dolphins cut him at the end of his 2nd season - only played 5 games and caught 4 passes for 80 receiving yards for them. Tampa Bay picked him up but was released before the regular season after catching a DUI. Then bounced to the CFL where he caught 2 passes and was forced to retire due to multiple injuries. Boston had SOOOO much potential but squandered it.
if anyone wants to know what the Saints Pick turned out to be after the Ricky Williams trade they were 1999/1ST: Cade McNown (QB) 1999/2nd: Pro Bowl and Future Super Bowl Champion (CB) Dre Bly 1999/3rd: D’Wayne Bates (WR) 1999/4th: Nate Stimson (LB) 1999/5th: Khari Samuel (LB) 1999/6th: Desmond Clark (TE) A 1 time Pro Bowler (although was a injury alternate) 1999/7th: Billy Miller (TE) 2000/1st: Future Hall of Famer LaVar Arrington 2000/3rd: Lloyd Harrison (CB) So they really missed on 3 Key pieces players that
For the Trubisky thing, I always thought Watson was the best QB in that draft (minus hindsight) and I still think he was the best QB choice (again, hindsight excluded). Mahomes would've definitely busted in Chicago
That's the thing. Mahomes HAD to be in KC. Learning behind Alex Smith during his rookie season made Mahomes much better than he probably would have otherwise.
I told my friends at the time that the Seahawks should trade their entire draft class to move up and take Aaron Donald and everyone called me crazy. I've never been as sure of a player coming out of college, and in hindsight he would've been one of only a handful of players in NFL history that actually would've been worth trading an entire draft class for.
Trubisky is not nearly as bad as you say. He led the bears to the playoffs multiple times. He has a 6 TD game. Only 2 active QBs other than Mitch, can say that
That bears team wasn't in the playoffs because of him, they made it because of their defense at the time Also. You brought up two random games like that's supposed to magically take away how ass he is. Hence why he isn't a starter permanently.
At the end of the day, the Trubisky trade was that bad. If you're paying the premium to jump 1 spot in the draft, you'd better get it right AND there needs to be people actually wanting to jump the line to get that guy. I just don't remember hearing anything at the time about there being a bidding war for Mitch. The Niners had just paid Jimmy G and would be insane to take a QB there, and again I may be misremembering but there wasn't talk of a bidding war to go to #2. So yea, giving up assets in a bidding war with yourself is just bad.
Hear me out. Hershal Walker Trade is the worst. The Brown's are not as bad off as the Vikings were at the end of the trade. If the vikings kept those players and picks they may have come out better and may have even won a superbowl. Instead we have the dynasty that is Dallas in the 90s. What did the brown's end up giving the Texan's? Arguably freeing up the team to pick Stroud, that is it. No dynasty, no big all time great players. So Walker deal is the worst.
The day before the trade, Watsons camp said he had no interest in playing for Cleveland and they weren’t even being considered. Then the Haslams drop the $230 million money bomb and The Predator suddenly has a change of heart.
As a Browns fan trading for Deshaun Watson was the WORST trade any team could make because: 1. We have been left in financial turmoil 2. We lost our first round pick for the upcoming year and this upcoming offseason 3. Finally it is very clear to me that Deshaun doesn’t even give a shit about playing now he just wanted to get paid and why the hell would he play when he’s guaranteed 250 million dollars
Which means Texans made the best trade ever because we got CJ, Will, had Tank Dell before the injury and is in playoff contention. Plus we already got more wins than the past two seasons combined.
1. Tons of qbs get paid close to Deshaun and aren't in financial turmoil. AB will figure it out. 2. A late first round pick is not the end of the world. They usually only become above average starters. 3. Say what you will about his play and his character but the amount of hits he's taking to either extend plays or get a few extra yards confirms to me that he's not phoning it in. I still think Ricky Williams and DeHop trades are way worse because you can't see the logic in it. While it didn't work out Deshaun did have 4800 yards and 33/7 td-int ratio (plus his rushing upside) so you can't say there wasn't upside or logic to this gamble.
@JordTheeNord 1) the first half of what you said makes no sense I never said the qb I said the team and beyond just Deshaun we have a total of 5 of the highest paid positions in the NFL 2) after we traded for him he could have gone to federal prison so trading all of what we did for a guy who could have gone to federal prison was nonsensical 3) ok I actually agree with the point about the draft pick And finally maybe instead of saying trading for Deshaun was the worst trade in nfl history we can agree that it was the biggest gamble in nfl history
Its worth keeping note of the Panthers-Chicago Trade. Especially if the Bears trade the pick again for more value it'd be insane to see what they give up.
I would argue that if we only considered the trades themselves and not the subsequent crazy contract extensions with loads of guaranteed money that the teams signed their bust to, the Walker trade would probably still be number one, the Watson trade would only be mid-list, and the Russel Wilson trade would be at the bottom or not on the list.
I was expecting Carolina trading up to draft Bryce Young only to hand the bears the 1st overall pick the next season would have made the list but I guess it was too soon to truly evaluate because I guess in theory Young could still be good
Part of me is glad as a Seahawks fan that the broncos are struggling because it gives us high draft picks especially after we traded ours away for Jamal Adams a few seasons ago. But also, I like the broncos and it sucks seeing Russell struggle.
