100% And the fact that she kept refering to him as "Boy" "he's a good Boy" "Nice boy" Uhm ma'am. He is a grown ass adult, and you are clearly the reason he doesn't accept responsibility for his actions.
@@LOLOMGL00ZRS yes! You hit the nail right on the head that crazy ass toxic apple not fall far from the tree. Mama raised herself a son husband and any poor woman who gets involved with her son is going to wind up with a meddling, manipulative, scary, oppressive mother-in-law. Toxic as hell narcissist
She didn't even reject him, he stood her up and then left a dozen voicemails talking himself into a mad rant. The sliver of a chance he might have had was gone when he got his mom involved.
I would say each voice mail was another shovel digging the grave for the relationship, the moms shovel was a double sized one lol... I have had guys do this shit but I was dumb enough to answer, yelling drunk about me not kissing them on the first date. Then pressuring me to go to meet his parents at a wine tasting ( he IS an alcoholic that says he is "moderating" and I drink a glass a few times a year if its good but I have not desire to regularly consume alcohol since I have MS i value health).... then called me more yelling about how I am cancer because I don't want to go on that second date and I won't let him feel good about toxic actions. Abusive people feel abused when I use my ability to be a mirror for them because I am no longer a doormat after what I survived getting TBIs and MS from my Ex. These guys literally think their ego feeling good all the time entitles them to give me a concussion if I said or did things he didn't like. Usually confronting addiction issues. I wonder why he missed the date, his behavior would indicate it is probably something toxic.
I thought the same, cos she didn't reject him, she went with all good faith to the date. Her not calling back was purely self preservation after his calls to explain himself were less red flags and more huge blood red quilts whipping by in a hurricane!
“I didn’t mean to yell at you cuz that’s not who I am”, is a statement that tells me all I need to know. When someone apologizes that way, that’s exactly who they are! They may wish they weren’t, but they are!
@@berrymint6384 you’re being ridiculous. “When you know it’s not you”?!!!! It’s you at the time of action. Wishing otherwise doesn’t change anything. If you feel you can or have changed after the fact, that’s great but how long will that take? And who decides if you’ve changed enough? Wanting it to be true does not make it so. One is not tested immediately. Only time will tell. How many times do domestic abusers claim to love their partners and swear to never do it again? Exactly!
"I lied. My dad's not in hospital." "I've been super honest with you." "I get upset when people aren't honest with me" "Can see how honest I am" Sir! What!?
@@itsirish9582 Yeah, Captain Honest here lied to her the 2nd time he ever talked to her, and it was a whopper. One of the things that struck me, too: in one of his phone messages, he was just dying to meet up and explain to her what an honest and all-around good person he is. That really shows an 8 year old's mentality. You don't EXPLAIN to somebody how good and honest you are, you SHOW them through your actions, and boy has that ship sailed! Dude's pretty confident in his powers of persuasion while all he's done is blow it. What a freakin' nutjob.
The creepy thing is that he's able to find out where she lives just by having her cellphone number (unless it's a tracphone). Websites like Whitepages & others give info like that away for free or very cheap. That's how a guy I dated found my address.
His mom talking to this woman like she's apologizing to a teacher for her small child who got in trouble misbehaving at school. "He's really a good boy we had a talk about how we treat others and he knows what he did was wrong"
Same. Also- he gave this woman’s phone number to his mother. Like “hey mom I literally can’t get a girl on my own, I’ve been such a jerk and I can’t stop myself. Can you be nice to her to make her think at least someone in our family is sane, and lure her in so I can do what I do? Thanks, here’s her number.”
Scary…His standing you up was okay, but your not calling him back is “not very cool”. She needs to thank her guardian angel that he didn’t meet up with her. She definitely dodged a bullet, literally,
@@jlovesj3335 true, but this comment specifically, he used the word wrong, & it just irks me when ppl overuse "literally" when they don't mean "literally"
@@G_Robb Sadly these days that don't matter anymore. They can find people's addresses in the flash of an eye. Be careful who you correspond with period especially meeting with.
@@oliviadarling8754 Ok I’m confused by this passive aggressive ass comment. I’m sure Tara knows that assault rifles shoot bullets…🤦🏾♀️. Are you ok sis?
I'm just glad this girl was emotionally and psychologically rounded enough not to become another victim of what could potentially become a domestic violence stat.
@@elizabethbennet4791 Who knows, maybe he has a really good glamor-shot from his high school graduation pictures or something. Just one voice-message was enough to blow it out of the water, though. Just what you need, a whiner with a hard edge and a side-order of narcissism.
And "You promised ..." Not taking into account what they did was so wrong that you wouldn't think of saying "I won't ghost you if you don't lie about your father being in the hospital"
It’s actually really common for some people to think that just because they’re being honest that it means all their sins are dismissed. It’s an extremely manipulative tactic when used this way because you are given little to no time to process this new information before being expected to sweep everything under the rug. Being honest just means you’re being a decent human being by allowing the other person THE RIGHT to make informed decisions. They are not then obligated to continue anything with you. If you didn’t want to take a chance with losing them you shouldn’t have done whatever it is you did in the first place.
They are not decent if they did something like the guy did before they are telling the truth. It is just used for manipulation which no decent person does.
@@cosmicreef5858 Humans aren’t strictly decent or indecent. They can have lapses. Honestly we all have consistently done something that’s indecent. We all suck
I had a Bradley too. After making up a completely false persona, and getting caught at it, he had his best "girlfriend" call me to plead with me to give him another chance. I didn't. Two months later, he's still calling & texting me, asking me to "get together " with him. Insanity.
@@shanakinztruebeliever1547 Because most of the time a person doesn't make a big promise out of doing something. "You promised" is often used to manipulate a person who saw a big warning sign and said, "Nope, this is going no further!" You can't MAKE somebody like you. Quit thinking like a 3rd grader.
The only time this happened to me was with a female coworker from several years ago. At some point she kept trying to invite me to her parties at her house every Friday, zero interest in going. In that sense, I get home one day and she left the most bizarrely message on my answering machine, made it sound like we had been dating for years, lol.
@RittenhouseIsAMurderer RittenhouseIsAMurderer swing and a miss but I get what u were tryin to do. Just like the corpses Rittenhouse made...nobodys perfect.
@RittenhouseIsAMurderer RittenhouseIsAMurderer yes all of us will sweetheart. As far as I can tell humans still arent immortal. Rittenhouse's name however is immortalized forever and he'll live well into his 80's, unlike the human ammo holders he made that faithful night.
Not gonna lie, even if I wanted to behave this way and act in such a dysfunctional manner… I wouldn’t even be able to do it. This is so embarrassing I’d rather just stay rejected for the rest of my life LOL
@@annaelisavettavonnedozza9607 the past tense of “come” is “came” And two people liked your comment. You and your alt account. Don’t correct people when you’re grammatically illiterate.
He's what they call a "front loader." Unleashes years worth of anger, conflict, screaming at the beginning of a new relationship. Once he gets it all out of his system, he's a real pussycat.
Yeah. This guy is off the deep end and is acting like they’ve been in a relationship for years when he’s the one who screwed up the first date. Wow! This whole throws up huge red flags.
I’m so glad she made these voice mail public so his mom and his friends can actually see what kind of person he is because I’m pretty sure he made her the villain
Yea he kinda sounds entitled to me & tries to play the victim card when he dug this grave by standing her up. Now he's just harassing her at this point.
@@hellerwise Yep. What an incredible lack of self-awareness. I like the part where he says that he wants to get with her to explain what a good and virtuous guy he is. You don't explain that to people, you show them and boy oh boy has that ship sailed!
He wasn't rejected. She accepted his date, prepared for it and àrrived on time. He stood her up, lied through his teeth and then bombarded her with constant voicemails. He's a weirdo
That reminded me of a film called Misery 1990, when the woman rescues an author who crashed his car then restrains him to the bed, so he can never get away, all while telling him how much she really likes him, and so she can treat him nicely. He's the female version of her, for sure.
To be fair to the guy, he did ask her not to put those messages on tik tok… lmao and she did it Anyways, it also shows how that woman is and acts in these situations. Anything for clout right? Yeah the dude didn’t do the right thing here but posting private messages… that’s not right either though
She did not reject him, he stood her up at a restaurant and than lied about it. He not only rejected her, he disrespected her. He is not worthy of a second chance. Move on guy and do better!!
Not to mention it was supposed to be the first date and he is acting like it is some long-time relationship. This guy is creepy and scary, definitely stalker material.
It’s extremely disturbing & scary that there are people like this in the world…mental illness is at an all time high and it’s not being taken seriously because we just chuck it up and label it as the person being a “narcissist.” Narcissism is a mental illness incase you don’t know and people still have to be examined and diagnosed. This is scary.
She didn’t reject him! That’s one of the crazy parts. She agreed to a date and he rejected her by standing her up! Definitely a stalker situation here.
@@BlueIvysAssistant buy why would a stalker not go to a date with the person they’re stalking? Especially since their victim was willing to go to the date on her own
I never understood what a narcissist was before my ex. This is literally it. The blatant manipulation: "I thought you were different", "You said you weren't like the others", "I haven't been treated well over the years and it's so hard on me", "All I'm asking for is xyz", "You need to respect me", "You owe me a response". No, dude. No one owes you anything.
I had one and he taught me a lot. They really think they own you. I met one or two while dating after I left him and I was a narc expert by then. I extricated myself from those situations as soon as I felt that gut feeling. It was the same gut feeling I had when I met my ex that I ignored.
@Kila McEndree Velez yes! Some of the other lines can be a context thing but not the friends line. I had an ex tell me that his friend (whom I had never met or spoken to) told him that I was crazy and that he should leave me and basically I was lucky he wasn’t going to despite that lmfao dude was gone the next day.
I think that someone saying “I haven’t been treated well over the years and it’s so hard on me” is perfectly reasonable if it’s true. We shouldn’t overlook the impact that certain events can have on a person, whether we agree with their actions or not. It’s also dignified to be open and honest with someone, just like you would in a workplace for example. That doesn’t mean you necessarily “owe” someone that, but you should treat others as you would like to be treated, not treat them like they treat you. But the rest of the examples you cite are bad signs of a person’s character.
@@fourninemarketing wrong bro. You're past relationships should have no bearing on how you perceive future dates. Making the relationship about only yourself, or the relationships you've had, is why even when it's true that it's a narcissistic trait to use it to build from or as an argumentative point. If you are dating someone who finds it relative to bring up past relationships it's best to just run like hell. There is an entire truckload of ways to deal with pet peeves or "phobias" caused by prior relationships but playing the victim even if you were one isn't healthy for either person looking to start a new relationship. There is never a good outcome if you build a new house on an old foundation. No GOOD woman needs to be told how not to treat a man and a GOOD man doesn't need to tell a woman how not to treat him. If you find yourself in that situation just know that one, or both, of you isn't good
And my favorites, “I deserve…” and “I don’t deserve…” 🙄 after my ex, those phrases make me cringe way too hard. “One day everyone will give me the respect I deserve! 😡” “I’m a great guy and I don’t deserve to be treated like I’m a POS!”
Well usually stalkers dont ghost the people they are stalking from a real deal date tho(that would be a weird obsession lol)-she'll be fine. Kinda hard to be a stalker if you legit avoided her presence on a first date. Hes just an idiot making a big deal about her "ghosting" his call back...which is just karma for him doing it to her.
@@shanecharles4589 stalking without in-person contact is still a very real problem that happens, though, unfortunately. I've had EXTREME issues with a few guys in the past... one that comes to mind above the rest is someone I went to school with who wanted to reconnect years later, and despite never actually seeing him during this whole debacle, he severely affected my life for a while. He would not stop harassing me from countless phone numbers, no matter how many numbers of his I blocked, and he was like this moron, where he was apologetic one hour, screaming the next, and round and round he went. Nonstop texts from endless burner numbers. I couldn't get away from him for months and I'm just so lucky I never told him exactly where I lived at that time, I can't imagine if I had, I might not exist anymore 😳 some people are just batshit bananas and you can shake your ass all you want but that dingleberry just won't fall off. 😂
@@shanecharles4589 But because he now feels like she rejected him it is different. He is clearly unstable. So it’s reasonable to worry about her safety.
My boyfriend from my teenage years carved my name in his chest with a razor and boasted thats how much he loved me. I dumped him because that was crazy and his reaction was what u would think it was. Men are terrifying.
What a complete disconnect from reality this mother and son have. Now I'm super curious as to what the rest of the family is like. Maybe his cousins and uncles will call and leave voicemails. Waiting for the next episode.
"I talked to my friends, they don't think it's cool, either." I'd put 20 bucks on him having no friends. I'd also put 20 bucks on mommy calling because she's desperate to get this loser out of her house, too. Too bad, mom, it's your fault for raising this Nancy-boy whiner that thinks he can talk his way into and out of anything.
This is after missing a first date. Can you just imagine what he would be like if a woman broke up with him after a few months of dating? And, what on earth would momma say?!😧
@@juliebraunschweig2108 I haven’t. I’ve seen the trailer, it looks intense. Do you recommend it? It must have a character that reminds you of either this man or his mother.
Glad you did this video.. Saw all of it on tick tock, shocking yes, but men do way worse things and still feel entitled to second chances, truly narcissistic and vrazy
The lying narcissist/psychopath has three steps: 1) manipulate (includes lovebombing); 2) when step 1 fails, they revert to control; and when step 2 fails, 3) intimidation.
The momma was speaking about him like he is still in pre-school. “He is a good boy”, “Bradley and I have a lot of talks about how we treat people and he knows what is not right” I was dying laughing because this is how I spoke to my kids when they were 1-2 years old and I sometimes speak to my dogs like this when they are misbehaving.
In that moment my heart broke for the mother. I have a feeling shes the reason he is this way (definitely coddled) but imagine your son turning out to be such a loser that you feel the need to call his tinder date?
@@jennaltonji9996 😂😂😂😂 Sadly, this Boy-Man child was raised by people (person) who were/are incompetent. Millions fall into this category. It's heartbreaking. But at the same time.......It is what it is. 😪
Next he’ll be sitting in his car in front of her house. Saying why aren’t you calling me back I can see your home. Crazy dude. That was a true blessing he didn’t show up for the date.
There was this cop who fell in love with me. I wasn’t interested in him, and I let him know politely but firmly of this. He wouldn’t take “No” for an answer. He showed up at my home and punched a hole in my screen door when I refused to go with him to a “Fast and the Furious” movie sequel. He also got his cop friends to harass and terrorize me. He left me threatening messages, put a dead squirrel, a dead bird, and a dead rat on my doorstep, he threw a brick through my window, and slashed my tires. Fortunately, my dash camera caught him and his cop buddies in the act, and my home security camera caught his other acts. That and other evidence I had gathered, along with a “journal” to document everything that happened, who, what, when, where, and how. I was able to file a TRO against him and with the help of the District Attorney I got him and his cop buddies to back off. TL/DR: A cop fell in love with me, I let him know I wasn’t interested, he stalked me, vandalized my home and vehicle, terrorized me, had his cop friends do the same, I gathered evidence and with a TRO and help from the DA he and his cop buddies left me alone.
Yes, she needs at least an alarm system with cameras that alert her to motion, and something that goes BANG BANG! Along with knowledge and practice with the BANG BANG device.
Ooh my goodness, I'd be changing my number, getting a restraining order, everything to protect myself! This guy is absolutely creepy, stalking her and even threatening her!! His Mom called her?!?!?! Crossing the line OMG!!! How old is this guy??? The second he left the first message she knew not to return his calls but really, they want her to come over to his Mom's house for dinner?!!? Ummm.....no!!!
Me too totally avoid to make any wrong relationship , better to stay single but not to jump any toxic relationship , no way , She's great because not giving any chance , just perfect .
And talked about what a “ good boy” he was!!! He stood her up on purpose because he wanted her to chase him and it backfired. I dated a guy like this months. Very briefly. Pay attention to the red flags people! So glad this girl did not call him back
Let’s pretend, for a second, he has friends. Why would he (allegedly) ask his friends how much time is reasonable to receive a response after leaving a voicemail?!? And how is that supposed to convince anyone of anything..? I mean, who does that?
I hate the excuse men say “rejection is a guys worst fear” a women’s is getting abused and murdered by a guy she rejects.. there’s a common denominator here and it’s not women. Don’t say something to a women, you wouldn’t wan’t a man to say to you in prison.
it's easy for me to forget how different our experiences are until i'm reminded of this; it' ubiquitous for us but guys lose it if a girl is overly attached but not lethally attached. to be honest i wish we'd stop seeking all our affection and validation from romantic partners; i hate that our culture does things this way.
@@hugenerd242 Yeah, I commented that and people were PISSED! I attributed the quote to Gavin de Becker because I read it in his book "The Gift of Fear". Well, apparently Margaret Atwood wrote it also (The Handmaid's Tale) and people exploded all over me, lol.
7:38 Norman Bates?? Anyone else getting that vibe? "He's always been such a good boy. We talk all the time about how we treat people and how he's gonna make this right".
Where is this book "no more Mr. nice guy" and this is the day with Mother is talking about in that book that creates the Mr. nice guy tapes and it’s very illuminating
In many cases, it's not the parents fault. Children grow into adult individuals and make choices that are outside of the realm of their upbringing. In some cases it is the fault if their primary home. 😩
Exactly he is the type to stalk and harm because he isn’t getting his way. He said he apologized 👀 and he doesn’t understand why she won’t talk to him. 🤦🏾♀️ He sounds like a grade school child and then to involve his mother let’s me know he is not mentally mature. He reminds me of one of those kids that hurts someone and says, well I said sorry. He is not self aware at all. But he aware enough to threaten her pfft. She better run and get that order of protection. He probably go ballistic when he sees this online smh.
When I was growing up and complained to my mom as I stomp my foot, "That's not fair!" She'd look at me, shrug her shoulders, palms raised towards the skies and say in a calm matter of fact voice, "Life's not always fair sweetie." Then she'd go about her choirs. BEST LESSON MY MOTHER EVER TAUGHT ME AND SERVED ME WELL THROUGHOUT MY LIFE!
I agree completely! His behavior is stalker material. He was probably scared to meet up with her, and lied to cover his fear. After that, is where it gets super creepy. I hope to God, this fu**ing freak doesn't find out where she lives.
He wasn't rejected though. He didn't turn up to dinner and then he pretended his father was in hospital. *HE* basically rejected her and then he couldn't deal with his decision. Unbelievable.
Anytime "mamma" calls to apologize and make excuses for her 'boy' and that 'boy' is over 15yo....(and that is stretching it), there is a psychologist not far behind! You mentioned that he is either having a psychotic break or is a pure narcissist and I went for the narcissist choice...until "mamma" called. My mom, when alive, did call my husband on occasion and usually when she couldn't get in touch with me...and my husband's mom did the same....but never did my mom ever call any person I had offended or bothered to defend my actions, once I was 12 yo. If I were that young woman (who is lovely and should unpoof her her a bit as she doesn't need to camouflage her features with big hair.....though they are in the South)..if I were her...I would change my number, move, dye my hair and get out of dodge, or Dallas, apparently in this case as this Brad is out of his mind and is, obviously OCD with the added perk of having mommy issues. I am a shrink, myself, and could hear it from message 2 onwards.
"Mama-wife" is a very good label because his mother comes across as the type who treats her son like a husband. The dude is a narcissist and she coddled his behavior growing up.
No, but you don’t understand! Bradley is such a good boy, and I’m sure you’ll understand that once you stop pulling on those darn shackles. We hate putting those on you, Bradley and me both, but we can’t have you escaping before you understand that you love my son and want to give me grandchildren. 🙂
Most women are natural pyschotics just because they can hide it better than men. It's like when they say women don't hurt men they do and they use the sly tactics but yer maybe a very small amount of true women excist but rare in the 21st unless you hit a 3rd world were peoples values are more real
Yup, I see Mr. Abarzua beat me to the reference. But I always laugh at people who insist on trying to excuse their behavior by the tiresome quote of, "That's not really who I am!"
WHAT in the world............... He then has his MOM call her and leave a bizarre message? I think we now know the situation here, and where his "personality" comes from.
@@frutcakes6370 Isn't that what Norman Bates mother would tell the woman who stayed at the motel when they found him peeping through the drilled holes in the wall and they soon checked out?
I was at a chinese buffet while watching this. I was wearing loose shorts and loose underwear. I peed and soiled myself and the floor right in front of the stir fry cooker.
That should have been taken as a warning sign, that Mama has brought-up an atypical member of the psychopath community! Whatever it was HE wanted with her, *_his Mama wanted to share in as well! *_
She could easily blocked his calls but she needed solid proof that dude is extremely unstable and possibly a threat to her personal safety. Some guys need to know it's wrap if she don't reply back immediately at a certain time period. She did right exposing Brad as the scary sore loser he really is.
No hate on her but I would have just kept all the voicemails for evidence without posting to Tik Tok. The guy is unhinged and could try to seek revenge. I know it can be tempting to “expose” ppl or whatever but don’t fight fire with fire. I agree it was smart for her to not block him immediately tho.
@@jl4260 she did it for her own safety. That way if something happens to her people know where to look. Especially after he got his mama involved! That was extra creepy.
You bring up a very good point that is a weird part of society. The need for receipts. We *could* just end things, but collecting proof is so important that humoring the behavior has become apart of ending it.
@@missxspencer1538 I'm glad she posted it for evidence purposes. She didn't dox him either, she just posted his voice and now if something happens to her they have a suspect.
I've never seen so many red flags waving wildly in the wind in such a short period of time. My palms are sweating. Dude actually had his mom call her.. "he's a good boy". Key word BOY.
