Mentioned before, It’s expected that Ultras and Secret Rares to be the cards everyone wants and will shift the meta. What are some examples of times when Common and Rare cards were the chase cards or meta viable. Pankratops is like the poster child for this.
My friend will never let anyone ever forget that he was saying Kaiser Coliseum was a strong card when you could find them in bulk in every common bin ever.
Being fair with Solemn, Burn was far more common back then. It wasn't great, but you could easily get sacked out by someone just playing 3 Wave Motion Cannons
That's a fair assumption but if we look at goat format world tournament most top 16 deck would have 3 solemn main deck or side deck because of how impactful it is to win even at the cost of very low LP. It's like 2005 so who do you guys think most people who play yugioh? And there's not a youtube or good sosial media community to learn the game better meant that they are less likely to experiment and stick with known strategy.
One of the underrated things that Garura did was turn the exosister match-up into one that tear could absolutely dominate. Rip super poly to fuse off all the sisters and no you don't have to worry about them getting mad at your gy.
Dimension shifter was considered bulk when the tins released since people were to enamoured with nibiru and DRNM, granted there were no decks that could abuse it but once they did ( flunder) it shot up in price just like raiza being $30.
Tbf it was more because the other 2 cards were just super crazy. I remember at the time thinking there was going to be a format where it would be the best of the three tin promos, and it ended up happening.
I remember when Phantom Rage dropped a Virtual World core was around 50 dollars. A few months later you’d need 50 dollars just for a playset of Lulu. It took people a shockingly long time to figure out that VW was the best deck of that format.
I genuinely believe it was because some people didn't really have the deck figured out in terms of how to play it. It seemed to have whatever gimmicks, and level modulation for a bunch of extra decks cards bar shenshen that didn't do too much. And when you look at what ranks/synchros they can make they can make, 3 being fine mostly? It makes sense. But then people realized that shenshen is really good, and vfd exists. Then they realized that chuche is a great in terms of a diversified end board. Etc etc
@@jdamourep oh yeah for sure, the deck was really hard to figure out. The amount of options you have is staggering. That’s one of the reasons I love it so much : )
I remember the initial reactions to Zoo’s reveal was that it was a mediocre strategy where you could make a Raigeki Break and a gimmicky hand removal (Boarbow) as a wincon. But hey, that Marmorat card makes a one card rank 4 for some extra deck space! Then the OCG got them and the rest was history lol
The guy talking about Maxx C not working on the first summon was kind of right, you can't chain it to inherents. I think he misunderstood from the Quickdraw Dandylion scenario because Quickdraw is an inherent, but Dandy starts a chain, that the first thing you respond to with it doesn't proc the draw.
True, but you can activate it before them and it will still draw so its not like your opponent has to summon for you to be able to activate it. Unlike Droll for example where you have to let the first search go unpunished and only then can you activate it, theres no shotguning droll. So he was still wrong in a sense
Maybe it was meant as "you don't plus off the first summon", since the first draw just replaces the Maxx C, it's every summon after the first where you're drawing additional cards.
@@snowboundwhale6860 its still essentially a benefit since you are playing a 39 cards deck in that case. Its an upstart goblin an theres a reason that card used to be limited
5:10 I became a Yosen-Kaiju player at my locals when they were released because of a Cap G video. It was the best deck I could think of that was budget and could out Kozmo ships consistently. It had the added bonus of sometimes being able to drop Gamaciel with Waterfront up too.
When I was brewing dragon link during lockdown all I could think about was “man, I sure do hope borrel end gets imported to the tcg soon this card is nuts!” And then 3 years went by
Rescue Cat is the card that got last will banned. People knew about its potential is 2007 there just wasn’t anything good to do with it until airbellum came out.
Some of these definitely feel like people just...misremembering how things went. I know at least one person thought that Zoodiac is what made people think Kaijus were good and its like, definitely not. People knew the instant IKS dropped, the card was literally limited by the time Zoodiac was printed. But some of these were really good.
Shoutout to Trap Dustshoot: Released as a common in Pharonic Guardian in 2003, never even looked at until people were looking for powerful answers to Demise OTK in early 2007, saw consistent play henceforth until its banning in 2012, when it was locked away forever, now regarded as one of the most powerful traps in the game.
I remember being called an Idiot for thinking Spright wasn't going to be Tier 0 in the TCG because of Tearlaments. But underrated cards... I remember people ABSOLUTELY underrated Ib the World Chalice Justiciar. I remember on my first Regional seeing COPIES (plural) of it on top of the Trash bin.
@@WoodsRunner What exactly did Ib do while she was legal? Show how busted the guardragons were? Everyone knew that. And even while the guardragons were legal Ib didn't break the format. Post MR4 revisions Ib does literally nothing.
Here's a recent one: Purrely. I liked the deck because it was basically Zoodiac Sky Striker with what could be mistaken by a bunch of pokemon cards, but didn't think it would break anything and now it's eating the OCG pie charts for breakfast
@@gatocochino5594 By Sky Striker, they don't mean the playstyle but how they both use single monsters to make a ton of different extra deck monsters with a focus on quick-play spells. Raye putting on the different suits and becoming the link monsters and Purrely evolving into the different XYZ versions.
@@MoskalMedia If someone says Zoodiac Sky Striker I'm going to asume they're comparing Purrely to a control/midrange deck like those. You can play Sky Striker without Raye/Roze but you can't play Purrely without the little dudes and Noir, the spells do nothing on their own. Purrely is towers turbo, getting to Noir is all you care about for 95% of your plays. It's closer to @ignister or Super Quant, in fact Super Quant is probably the deck it's most similar. Both of those decks try to construct a big unaffected man using little dudes that have occasionally useful effects.
@@gatocochino5594 True. On-release Purrely was akin to Super Quant, investing your hand to try making a Tower. Then CYAC comes, when said investment actually pays itself via Sleepy Memory, letting you replenish your hand with potential handtraps.
I am not sure whats more painful to listen to. - Cimo explaining how he is still right about Adamancipator not being very good and how the onomat cards really fix the deck - MBT saying Sky Striker is going to be bad and on the same powerlevel as Magical Musket. Yes, both these things happened...
See, its funny: i bought a budget Tear core on release of POTE for my birthday (i started off with a Branded Tears build, its currently just an Ishizu Tear monstrosity) because i thought it was going to be the underdog top tier deck of the format with Spright being the most represented deck. Boy was i wrong, lmao. Felt really good for my archetype to become the "Tear Zero" boss of the format, that shit was fucking nuts. And even before then, Danger Tear was really hype. Its without a doubt one of my favorite decks in this game. Playing control or disruption is just so fun in this game, and it was really cool to see a deck like that be the best in the format. Its not a bunch of spamming negates or building a stupidly big tower to sit on or whatever, it just you and a shit ton of resources. I can't wait for the deck to be highly represented again in the format, even if its not THE best deck in the room. Even as stripped down as it is now, Ishizu Tear is still just really fun.
I was literally screaming and excitement to see melffy get support. I was super hyped about Wally but didn't realize how strong the synchro actually was.
I was a Runick Stan from the start. Only problem was that I was thinking about it wrong. I thought it was essentially the revival of Sky Striker without Mystic Mine but I didn’t predict how it’d be used with Spright. But hey I’m glad I got all my Runick cards for cheap, and I’ll still go to a YCS with my Runick Sky Striker Deck.
Yeah, my roommate, when looking through my Melffy Beastdown deck, saw a copy of Onibimaru in it, and convinced me to take it out, because the deck "didn't play much banishment, so it wouldn't be very good". Guess he didn't realize that it banishes through its own effect, and threatens a spin into the deck if it's destroyed during the opponent's turn. Now tempted to put it and Donner back into the deck.
The thing with Solemn Judgement is that it was released when LP mattered because burn damage was critical when the game was slower. Now, LP are just a resource and they matter to some extent but it's not longer the focal point of the duels.
Also re:Adamancipator: Megalith. In the format with Researcher and Block Dragon, having a deck that could put up similarly powerful synchro/xyz boards as Adamancipator but also nuke the board or lock your opponent out of monster effects with Bethor or Magician of Black Chaos MAX respectively, but almost nobody took them seriously until near the end of that format because they were a ritual deck.
I need help to understand how it's just basically a rank 2 zeke? Still feels the same as on release, where it's nice to play but there isn't a need to make space for it.
icejade curse made icejade a playable deck, but since it was in the third wave of icejade cards, the deck had been written off by everyone also, the new evil eye support is absolutely cracked, and given their old cards are decent and just lacked a little too much consistency, which is now fixed, i genuinely dont get how people arent playing them
It's funny, a kid back in the day brought a full Kaiju deck to my local store. This is the same kid who played Malodche and Ghostrick on release. The deck did really well the first couple of weeks, and then he got busy and didn't show up. Everyone there thought Kaiju was either gonna be a terrible gimmick, or the next Dragon Rulers Tier 0 format.
I remember hearing one of the return D.D. spells being like this but I can't remember if it was actually this or if decks just didn't banish enough back then
Solemn Judgment was overlooked for the first two years because of IO, but after IO was banned it remained under the radar, probably because “pay half your life points” turned players off to it.
I’m surprised no one said soul charge. That card was legal for years and no one played it at all. It really felt like it became popular overnight when every realized it was one of the strongest cards in the whole entire game
The fact you skipped over people saying Infinite Impermanence is a tragedy because it is a POSTER BOY for this! I dunno about you, but I clearly remember on release people saying "It's a trap card, so it'll never be played! We already have Effect Veiler, so who cares!? And what's the point of that set effect? It'll never come up!!"
I'm pretty sure Bagooska was one of the only Rank 4s you played in full power SPYRAL, but I was also playing Brilliant Fusion in SPYRAL as Charming Resort Staff was a Light and could recycle Super Agent to hand to summon off Fire Wall
My vote would go to Thunder King Rai-Oh. I was using the heck out of it as soon as it came out but I don't recall the community at large thinking much of it until much later when people realized "No, this card is actually complete bullshit. It shuts off search and is a giant middle finger to any synchro summon your opponent cares to try."
I remember when The New Challengers came out, reading Towers thinking 'this is probably the best card in the format' Every good player I knew who played the deck thought it was trash because it requires 3 tributes and I would just be like "have you read it?" Then it eventually saw competitive play and is now the nickname for hard to put boss monsters.
0:55 If only I was playing then. I read Deskbot 001 back when pendulums were released and tried to break it using the best Machine Pendulum at the time; Dragong. I'm not sure if a neverending conga line of Mist Wurms and Cloudcastle > Phantom Fortress Enterblathnir was a good enough payoff for running 3 Dragong, but I certainly tried regardless. The deck actually got better when Qliphorts came out because Scout was a Machine Normal Pendulum and jt being a 5 allowed access to 10 and 11 Synchros like Leo.
Ultimate Offering. This card was released in the TCG in the first wave of structure decks so everyone had three. Being able to set or summon during the combat step is undeniably powerful. If the OG meta wasn't playing Harpies+Heavy+3 MST and Tsukuyomi wasn't limited to 3 the OG spirit deck would have been fantastic by dumping spirits on your opponent's combat step to set your opponents' monsters into DEF position and then gain back tons of life with Springs of Rebirth. This was a surprisingly viable deck in Yu-Gi-Oh! Online, where almost no one could get a hold of Heavy Storm or Harpies Feather Duster.
Not sure about Auroradon. Pretty sure when Auroradon is annouced, there's already a bunch click baited 1 CARD COMBO 3 NEGATES featuring Auroradon, but the thing it just died to a singular handtrap. However, when Adventures was released, you now have a way to house a negate before committing to the Auroradon line allowing you to combo free from interruption. It was then Auroradon started seeing widespread play.
I remember when Mystic Mine came out nobody really payed attention to it initially and assumed it was a pack filler card. However when i first read what it does i was like. "This is skill drain on steroids!" Of course people didn't start using the card until they ran the Lady of lament, Metaverse engine with Mystic Mine.
Barricadeborg blocker was a random tcg exclusive from rising rampage. Then it got discovered as a dark machine link monster for Ib ftk and it took off from there.
IDP was definitely not $3 on release. This set was my first case and IDP was extremely short printed along with ecclesia. IDP was a $20+ card just days after set release
No one played Brilliant Fusion except when Noah Greene did with Madolche Performage a month later. It wasn't until Plushfire came out when people all went MegaMind and said it was brilliant. Not one Nekroz deck. I could say the same thing with Terrortop/the Psy-Frame cards. One Day of Peace maybe. Vanity's Fiend was barely played until post 2012.
0:07 This felt like a triple reference. what MBT video was being referenced here? 2:38 this entire segment was hilarious 3:01 that's ...... a lot of copies dire 3:20 POTE / Power of the Elements was such a game breaking booster pack
To add to the discussion though, Dantes were 5$ on sneak bc everyone thought dolls would just roll every other deck. Droll and vantiy's were not even looked at for a very long time. Even balista, the ancient gear link is like 13$ now. It's insane.
Yes, being a link 3 is much less abusable than a link 2 especially when you can make one even when bricked and other needs machines with tomahawk banned.
The thing is, superheavy in tcg without Maxx C could make even better boards. Auroradon is legal in ocg, but if you get Maxx c your opponent draws 6 cards at least with any Auroradon combo and the endboard is not a pseudo ftk like it was with BASED, where not even a dark ruler made a difference.
Fairy Tale snow is another. I remember when I was playing before ( OCG ), i bought a set of it for for 2 dollars. And a month or two later the price became tenfold. Then a month after it became R2 but the price doubled.
Years ago I found Diablosis the Mind Hacker while coping that I could make R7nk Red-Eyes good and thought it was the most broken Rank 7 in the game, it just needed an actual good rank 7 strategy to break it. And now...
Everyone played tri on release, people talked about tri for weeks before release. Same with virtual world and auroradon. Least in my circle, and a few nearby ones, it was overhyped as all hell and rightfully so.
Some people were sleeping on Token Collector, Eater of Millions and Amano Iwato. Got a lot of them very easy, I even told my friends to pick them before they increase their prices.
I do have to ask: why is Kurikara Divincarnate considered good now? I get the whole "tribute your opponent's whole board to make a big beater", but it requires you playing other cards and going minus to force negates and such before she's live. If it's because of Tear playing on your turn, Tear can fully rebuild their board after a board breaker with just a Havnis in hand. If it's because of Kashtira, they're already losing to Nib if they go for the full lock, and Kurikara on a single Ariseheart doesn't seem that great when you could just Kaiju or Lightning Storm it before activation instead? Is it because, when the opponent ends on only a single monster, it essentially ends up a 2-for-1 (since you have to do something else to get them to activate that monster) Kaiju that winds up on your field instead of the opponent's? Isn't getting bad monsters on the opponent's board good against Kashtira to stop them special summoning? Like, I am honestly not seeing why Kurikara is good compared to other things like Nib or Storm or Kaiju.
Surprised no one put Super Polymerization. On it was ignored due to only gimmick being able to use it only for it shoot up in popularity once Shaddolls debuted.
I knew Solemn Judgment was good from day one and used 3 of them in all of my decks for a long time (I pulled one and traded for the other 2...and I didn't have to trade much either). I had a 4 month winstreak of weekly YGO tourneys at my LGS primarily off the back of this card...and the local price of Solemn was on par with Magic Jammer (which was expensive at the time) entirely due to me, then my opponents all wanting this card after seeing it in action.
Me and a couple friends went to the burst of destiny sneak peak in Colorado. My friend who faced off against pak saw the Floowandereeze cards and said "naw this shit is ass. All they do is normal summon!" My friend also played pot of duality to search for mystic mine in bird up.
Might not entirely be this but I very much remember when the first wave of salamangreats was released saying they had the makings of a solid deck that just needed a few more pieces and actually getting laughed at and kind of insulted by a couple people for thinking that. Later (post structure) I noticed one of the people who laughed at me was playing the deck and mentioned the past conversation because I found it funny... They either didn't remember it or find it funny because they got kind of angry at me...
While i can't talk about it in previous format's contexts (and those haven't been explored nearly as much), maxx c has went from a side deck staple in HAT format to a main deck staple, though this is in good part due to the rise of mermails as possibly best deck material, it does show how much more the playerbase appreciates the card now. Of course, after HAT format came duelist alliance, and maxx c really started coming into its own (even if it is a main deck staple and most commonly ran card, it's nowhere near broken or strongest card in hat) Also this is as good as time as any to say, no, infernity isn't that great in hat format, especially nowadays, it got caught in the crossfire of everyone maining maxx c, plus everyone siding (and sometimes maining) crow for half the meta, and now it just might get its first online top in 6 months (HAT averages over 2 online tournaments a month)
I'm kinda glad Onibimaru got a decent niche. When the card was announced, I was hyped as fuck because my favorite deck was already running on banishing and Level 2 Monsters.
Evenly Matched tbh. When it was first announced people thought it was gonna be crazy, but for some reason once Circuit Break dropped, it was crickets chirping. Took like two or three years before it actually started seeing consistent high-level play, and now it's a $5 common out of a structure deck worth $10.
TAMA as a whole was very over looked at release. my local shop had the price of the displays already hard reduced because no one bought them when i started diggin deep into it so i got lab and runik very cheap and a few months later everyone was looking for cards from this set
A lot of people, including me, thought the ishizu monsters aren't that good when they first came out. You can mill 5, good. But you also mill 5 of your opponent's deck? This is free resource for your opponent! Consider that your opponent might be playing a GY resource heavy deck too, they can't be that good. Turns out, if you are playing against decks like spright, then milling 5 is great. Not to mention you can main orange light as well. Although, in these people's defense. Keldo and Agido stop being good as soon as everyone starts playing tear. So the prediction was partially true.
With everything else going on in Duelist alliance like Shaddolls, Yang zing(this one was overhyped) and Burning abyss i remember people looking at Tellar knight as worse constellar at worst and only "ok" at best. The deck won worlds.
It might have only been at my locals but fiendish chain saw almost no play for a month despite everyone pulling atleast two ,until a friend went undefeated that whole month solely because of that card
I’m surprised no one mentioned floodgates. Rivalry of Warlords and Skill Drain were gimmicks when they released. Skill Drain had a gimmick with making that level 7 Machine a 2800 normal summon and Barbaros a 3000 ATK normal summon, but those cards were niche at best. Second answer, burn cards. While I wouldn’t say they were/are broken, they’ve built steam over the years since Chain Strike’s release to where it’s a rogue deck almost everyone knows about.
In fairness to Solemn, back then one card didn’t do all that much so stopping just one card wasn’t all that good and the cards that did board wipe were spells so Jammer was the better option. The flexibility of Solemn wasn’t worth half your LP when one card didn’t lead to that much damage usually
