The Zelda Rant 

First Edit: I think you should cover Ori it's pretty cool.

​@@haydenpaulson8375not first

Would love your take on Pokemon stuff.

I'd love to hear more about lore and facts of previous zelda games instead of totk.

​@@haydenpaulson8375Not

I came to the comments to see if others noticed this as well. Zelda tubers are very quiet about this game and for good reason. There’s nothing to say.

you're both so right asf... it hurts Lol

speaking from experience, us smaller tubers don't wanna do many videos because there's a significant view drought, I feel like there's a lotta content I wanna do atm, but juggling a full-time job and YT means that it can't be a priority since there's no guarantee of a video doing good like it would've in February. Plus the amount of negativity in the community atm makes doing theory videos VERY unappealing, why do theory videos when all people wanna do is rant at you about why it's wrong? Just a small zeldatubers take! :) @@passacookie4485

Views are crazy low as well compared to what they once were. TotK has kind of been the nail on the coffin for the Zelda Fan base as the actual fans seem to not care about this game at all.

​@@thediesel1241there's definitely been a changing of the guard, it seems. From the old fan base to those that joined in botw or totk. There's decent viewership for playthroughs of this game--makes sense, there's an infinite amount of challenge runs you can do, but Lore? Theory? Story analysis? WYSIWYG--What you see is what you get, with this game. There are no burgeoning mysteries begging to be dived into--and those that previously existed either came to light very bluntly, or were denied any possibility of continuing

koroks failed to replace kokiri there. i said it!

Ya I agree the lore and story behind totk was just terrible Even if the gameplay was killer Also hi bread 🍞

Pokémon.

Pokémon is trash

It would be so awesome if he get into Xenoblade. There is so much depth to those games and so many theories around them. Definitely a franchise that shows far more respect to story than Zelda.

Amen

Yeah that and how they half pretend BOTW didn't happen. It pisses me off how many things from that game are simply just gone in TOTK. It's pretty hard to talk about lore when they pull stuff like that. For example in Dark Souls thousands of years pass between each game yet there are many things that reference people, events or concepts from the previous games. Meanwhile in the last 2 Zelda games not even a decade passed yet absolutely nothing remained from the divine beasts or the guardians

You're right. It's more complicated now.

I second this

Me as well. It had some strong moments that almost toppled Link's Awakening as my favorite Zelda story. Then it just totally limps around in other areas. I was expecting dungeons with multiple entrances from the overworld like LttP, LA, and a few others I think. I am surprised the 2D games can do something that the new 3D Zelda games can't. It would be neat to leave a dungeon and have to find it's backdoor and would have eliminated some of the heavier cheesing that could be done in TotK dungeons.

I'll do it.

@@phoenixdowner The multiple entrances idea is brilliant and would totally work in this style of game. I didn't even realize I wanted it until you pointed it out, but you're right that was definitely a missed opportunity.

Seconded

Zonai we’re never supposed to be a barbaric tribe at all. That entire lineage was the result of a combination of intentional revisionist history and sun setting their time in the kingdom which meant that their history and legacy faded into obscurity. What was always the case and revealed in TotK is that certain powers that be intentionally covered over Zonai ruins to make them appear more primitive for their protection/safety and to fulfill a destined loop. The barbarian armor was never explicitly Zonai and I love the Zelda team’s subversion/misdirection

@@shabado0 misdirection my ass. They clearly retconned it

@@hulkman245 nope, you’re taking some (understandable) leaps. The barbarian set is linked to a war-like tribe but they never make any connection to Zonai in BotW. They make literal reference to a Zonai people in that game and if they wanted the barbarian set to be tied to the Zonai and maintain the flavor text they would have called it Zonai armor, either in English or in any of the other game’s languages. The Zonai excerpt from creating a champion was simply taking the barbarian armor descriptive text and extrapolating it to make inferences.

​@@hulkman245youtubers making theory videos is not canon

Lol there was no reason to believe this

yeah same

elden ring...

Who is playing Zelda for lore? Gameplay is the main focus and always has been.

@@dhLord64 I agree. I am a fan of the lore and love connecting everything, but gameplay has always been what Zelda has been about.

And they didn't even give us any meaningful information on the Zonai either. It's like they saw the videos on Zelda theorists talking about the Zonai ruins, saw how many fans loved it, and decided to make that the next main plot but without knowing why fans like the Zonai lore in the first place.

@@dhLord64 A series where the core fans were so obsessed with the lore and timeline placement it pressured Nintendo to make their own official timeline for the 25th anniversary. Yeah, Zelda fans don't care about lore.

@@ShallBePurified playing Zelda mostly for lore?? Almost nobody is doing that.

Story isn’t a priority? Go tell that to Zeltik’s hour long retrospective about the story of each mainline Zelda game. Story is a major appeal of the series for many fans. Myself included.

⁠@@samueltitone5683 story is barely a priority in totk. i have no idea how he managed to stretch that barebones plot to a multi hour series but it doesn’t change the fact that it was dogshit. totk’s story has literally nothing going for it. zelda’s sacrifice is meaningless, ganondorf is just a generic villain with no real goal aside from stopping the good guys from being good, whereas in ww for example he’s written in a far more interesting way. it barely acknowledges the fact that it’s a direct sequel and the devs themselves stated they didn’t think about obvious questions that anyone who played botw would ask. and not to mention the copy and paste cutscenes. you can like totk but it’s story is aggressively mediocre at best.

It isn't that plot isn't there, it's that answers are frustratingly not there... Like if you went to Romans 102 in college and only learned about the Greeks, you're still learning, just not what you expected or wanted to learn.

They can't disregard it since they create the lore. Totk is canon. It's not any of these RU-vidrs leeching off Nintendos developers and their games creating Zelda, it's Nintendo. They create lore, they create the story, and you have to eat it. You don't decide.

@@greenlight2323 I don't think that's fair, personally I'm on the fence because as much as I understand the writers' approach and am able to enjoy each game for its strengths, sometimes the "gameplay/concept first and story second" does present benefits for that gameplay but underlines how much untapped potential remains for the setting. To paraphrase Bandit, BOTW was sparse in storytelling but after finishing the game I really appreciated that it kept simple, focused on exploring a mysterious world, while leaving a lot open to tie nostalgic lore and symbolism with this new state of Hyrule in a distant future. TOTK ups the ante in scope, time frame and epic events but avoids anything that would describe it concretely relative to other games. It relies on the same structure, it's "story second" but for a concept better suited in BOTW, while not really doing anything with continuity and these distant connections we've theorized for 6 years. Aonuma also confirmed they don't want to worry about what they've done in old games, so in that sense the new canon disregards what some of us would like to see explored more. I think that while no game will satisfy everyone in every aspect, in story as well as gameplay there are ways to make new stuff that appeals to long time fans without alienating newcomers.

Probably because zelda and link... dont interact. In the intro and the ending is basically it (and the memory where he draws the master sword but Zelda just talks to the deku tree)

@@a_person4742there’s Zelda games where they don’t meet…

I also made a similiar video 5 months ago. But youtube is not really fair and that was when everyone was too enthusiastic.

@@a_person4742 But there's a reason for that? And botw is their backstory

@@lulu_TheWitchBoy yeah like majoras mask. Except those games arent about princess zelda? The main quest in this game is find zelda, link and zelda should have more than 2 interactions

(oh and hello I'm still watching. lowkey would like to know more abt xenoblade chronicles tbh)

It’s not common lol

@@jakedematteo2172it most definitely is. Very silent majority afraid to say what they think from the loud minority freaking out on them

@@APsGTG that is not true at all, you’re just using this video as an opportunity to hate on the game

@@jakedematteo2172 believe what you want. Totk is a game I and many others wanted to love, but we aren’t afraid to call things out when they’re made poorly. If you accept everything that’s given to you, all you’ll get is low effort stuff. We do not want the next Zelda to be low effort again.

the game was ripe for connections to skyward sword. being that ss is my favorite zelda, I was super hyped for the game thinking they would have at least SOMETHING connecting it to ss. but then I played it and... nothing. it barely even connected to the game that literally took place canonically just years before it (where tf did all the sheikah tech go???). would've blew my mind if skyloft was one of the great sky islands or something...

Honestly I just think that's a ridiculous argument. Its hardly the worst story of any 3D Zelda title ever. I thought the story was pretty good overall and far better than BOTW. Its nothing particularly amazing to write home about, but its not bad. The problem is they butchered the series lore, which is why Zelda tubers are pissed. I gave up on the lore of the series a long time ago because they never liked to keep things consistent at all.

@@JaidynReiman I’m just making an observation that not everyone liked it. Zeltik and Bandit both acknowledged that their opinions were likely to be controversial.

​@JaidynReiman people have different opinions just like Bandit said to keep in mind

@@JaidynReiman I would definitely rate it as the worst in the series. It tramples over what was established previously in the same way the star wars sequels trampled over the OT. "I gave up on the lore of the series a long time ago because they never liked to keep things consistent at all." - I think this is probably a lot of people's first experience with this in the franchise. If you're like me you've been dealing with this since at least wind waker.

He didn’t explicitly say that it had the worst story

Totally! I wrote a letter to Nintendo yelling at them for letting me down so much in these (and other) ways. Glad others feel similarly.

“What happened to the kingdom that got founded again?” It got founded again, dummy You think that can only happen once?

@@cajunking5987 I meant what happened to the kingdom? Why did it have to be founded again

@@PatriciaFlora10 because it’s been thousands of thousands of years

@@cajunking5987 Kingdoms don't just vanish into thin air, something must have happened. I just want to know what.

In defense of the cutscenes after you beat a temple, I think they did that because they (the devs) don’t know which dungeon you will go to first… but even then it’s pretty weird, like why didn’t they slightly change them after you beat 1 of them? I’m not saying it’s justified if you look at it like that, I don’t really like it either

​@@Glitchyy07yes. The freedom of the game means you can't build a consistent story because you can't force the players to play the game in a specific order. Which I think is dumb. TotK is infinitely better than BotW, like BotW was the 60$ beta test for TotK

​@@TwelveDaysofHalloween That's just silly and you know it. Plenty of open world games have criteria you have to fill out for different events to take place. There was 0 reason they even had to have these sages, let alone have them be completely dull while repeating the same lines of dialogue each time. Consider something like this, 1- they could completely circumvent the stupid ancient timeline they went with. There was no need for any of it, and they could've made a totally different story for Ganon's return. Forgoing that, they still *made* this, and could have put in the effort to actually make something of their story by gating content. Which brings me to 2 - You stick with the bones of the story as it is. 4 ancient sages, Rauru and his sister, boring as they might make the zonai. Get rid of the evil zelda sections, they're pointless and don't bring anything to the story beyond making it abundantly clear that Link has 0 interest in sharing what he clearly knows with anyone. Have slightly more specific cutscenes for each of the champions which revolve around the effects of the changes the gloom and whatnot have had on their regions. Have the shitty secret stones cutscene for your first champion, or maybe something slightly different if Link comes across the spirit sage first, and have a cutscene where Link sends a message to the remaining areas letting them know what he's learned. Give them each different cutscenes based on them knowing this information. Better yet, if resources are a problem in spite of how wildly successful BotW was and having 6 years of dev time, make the secret stone info a non voice acted unique cutscene. that occurs with whichever champion you meet first, then you don't even have to make 2 cutscenes for each new champion+sage. That's such a simple fix, it doesn't even require spending much more resources (some slightly new unique cutscenes, maybe don't even need new animations. Just have the sages talk with the champions about how they can prepare or maybe talk about their lives or friggin SOMETHING interesting. That and the cost to write some more scripts, one dude has to work a whole extra day for that ooooh nooo) And it makes the story infinitely more tolerable by not treating the player like they're mentally deficient. This doesn't fix the stupid way they destroyed the lore continuity and still leaves us with a pretty garbage story, but it fixes one of the huge glaring issues that rubs players the wrong way without removing the open world aspect. You gotta remember that the folks at Nintendo *made* this game, everything in the game is deliberately placed in some way. They didn't have to even make the story the way it is, the fact that they went this direction at all is frankly pretty disappointing cuz it's such shitty storytelling. I say this all as someone who's been enamored with the series since childhood, who knows that Zelda isn't necessarily about having a good story, who even had fun with TotK for its game mechanics. I didn't want my games treating me like a 6 month old when I was 5, and I'm sure a lot of the kids Nintendo's trying to appeal to would've found a lot more enjoyment too if the game wasn't this awful in the story department. Don't excuse this garbage, there's plenty of things that could've been done to avoid it or make it better.

@@TwelveDaysofHalloweenBotw was definitely no Beta test, it does several things better than TotK and has its own identity. I hate that phrase because it essentially diminishes everything Botw accomplished

@@MegaSpides honestly my main issue is the mysterious nature of the ancient champion has no payoff or personal task/hint, like one thing they could have done is give them 4 tasks to request of you that change the nature of their land's hazard, or maybe a quest in their depths section, as is each champion has one trip into the sky or depths... But neither really had both, and the Gerudo was the only one with most of it focused on the town itself instead of either... It would be nice to have had all 3 possible but only require one of them based on when you complete the quest.

What happened to the triforce

Same here :(

I still havent finished the game, it doesnt make me want to play it enough and the movement doesnt feel as good due to lack of raviolis gale lol

@@namaenomore7831 this always blows my mind. They replaced Raviolis gale with several fusable items on shields, ascend, and customizable vehicles while adding Tulin for even more mobility! Revalis gale was essential due to lack of movement options but in TotK we have SO MANY movement options, it’s much better IMO

It really is a great game, but I have not finished it yet either. I do enjoy it, but I think it's too much in a few ways. It probably doesn't help that I'm not in my 20s anymore, but I might go shrine hunting( I really want the heros aspect), but I'll find a couple and call it quits for a couple days. Also, BOTW left so many things to speculation, and TOTK gave a lot of answers, and imo, confusing ones.

it's insane how 6 years of development had this as a result lol, pick literally any fan theory and it's more interesting than the final product lmao. even those i disagreed with and disliked at least had some thought put into them...

@@highdefinition450 Yes this! A lot of people were excited about the prospect of playing as Zelda. I've never been interested in playing as Zelda, but if they told me there was DLC or another section where you play as Zelda through her time in ancient Hyrule I would have been pumped to interact with that version of the world and the characters. They could have just limited that gameplay to the Great Plateau... SO many great opportunities and they just blew it. Why did they give Rauru his name but make no connection to the Rauru in OoT? With all of the ancient writings about Zelda, I also thought they were going to tie everything together to imply that THIS was THE Legend of Zelda. They could have tied in the golden goddess to say they swallowed a secret stone and became dragons. I'm rambling again. Just... Ugh. So disappointing.

Another FNAF videos? Gimmie a break. That was a reason why I left Mat Pat channel

@@shibba2517 lucky for you there are thousands and thousands of YT channels out there, I’m sure you’ll find something! Jordan won’t become a FNAF tuber simply because I suggested it (and did so because I know he’s enjoyed it in the past). But I’m sure if he makes the video it’s because he is interested in its content. And what’s AWESOME is that you just don’t have to watch it if you don’t want to. 🫶🏻

@@shibba2517 😂 Bandit won’t make FNAF videos simply because I said so, but maybe he will if he’s interested in the content. And! You don’t have to watch them if you don’t want to. 🫶🏻

I am not tempering my expectations, I think it's time to do the opposite tbh. TotK was the only first party release from Nintendo so far this year to disappoint me - Pikmin 4? Mario Wonder? Fantastic, fantastic experiences. It's shocking how mundane and repetitive TotK ended up when their other IPs are still taking leaps forward

@@Charnutboy you make a great point because the only two nintendo specific games I bought this year were totk and pokemon violet which is pretty much my problem. I’ve heard nothing but great things about wonder and pikmin 4, I just haven’t spent the money yet. It definitely upset me how empty and repetitive the game is plus no dlc to even attempt to fill in the gaps??? Cooled me off completely.

Def same here! Every time he said „I shouldn‘t continue this point“ I was like „yes, do it“😂 Would love to see a review one day Bandit :) Much love from Germany my guy👍🏼

I think breaking the master sword was a really cool idea since it showed how big of a threat this ganondorf was while setting a main goal for the game, but the payoff was just too weak. If the master sword was at least as powerful and as durable as it was post trial of the sword, it would’ve felt way better

Agreed, I feel like this game had the potential to really dig into the themes that had their groundwork laid as far back as Skyward Sword and even to some extent Twilight Princess, this endless, cyclical conflict between these characters, forced to live and fight again and again through the will of forces beyond their understanding. That alone is fascinating in its thematic implications, and with what they did in Breath of the Wild with Zelda’s struggle to unlock her power and the fading might of the mastersword, it really seemed like they were moving in a direction to address those aspects, and then this game came along, bulldozed half the established lore, and left those loose threads out to dry. There was so much they could’ve done, but they just… didn’t. Tragic really. But hey, at least we’ve got that MajorLink fan series that actually does give a shit about the established lore and has its entire purpose rooted in addressing those potential thematic angles that I now believe Nintendo is simply not ballsy enough to follow through with.

Yep, really sad

I personally never had a problem with the game but I get why people might. I personally never care about the story if the gameplay itself is fun and the gameplay is possibly the most fun any zelda game up to this point and tbh, Nintendo has always operated with gameplay>story.

@@thebleachbartender1312 I'm fine with saying I loved the gameplay to death. I'd still recommend TOTK to folks just because its fun as hell. But I will still just as passionately bitch about what they did to the lore and how the story fell flat.

​@@thebleachbartender1312 I'm tired of this "gameplay over story" bs. We've had Zelda games that had better stories and much more compelling characters than TotK before.

Not the only one, Hyrule Gamer also has a video: "Are Zelda Games Losing Their Charm?" - have you watched? Zelda i think is losing many fans with BOTW and TOTK...

@@byksEBM But gaining so many, the popularity metric is a tough one... Zeltik just ranked Zelda stories, his list makes sense to me and TOTK sits near the middle. To me the game has too much good that outweighs the bad to the extent that I keep coming back despite repeating it doesn't deliver as well as BOTW, but it keeps underlying that too much of the world building and story telling is underwhelming. The solace is how untapped potential can carry over into the next game, but Nintendo unpredictably iterates safely or does 180 turns, and while we're definitely getting more open world it's unclear if we'll see a version of TOTK better realized. I was already sure this would be a proper implementation for their earlier vision for Skyward Sword, but that implied a proper sky world which we didn't get. It's a matter of focus, adding two huge layers largely empty and/or repetitive, tons of caves and shrines only spreads their efforts and enables open world fatigue. Scale back to no more than BOTW's size, refine what's there, lean into some traditional elements but go wild for a modern implementation.

@@byksEBMthey’re losing fans I think we’re just disappointed that it didn’t have the story and lore we wanted but us old timers are going. To play the next Zelda game let’s be honest

not exactly at all... i got burnt out with both games. that was the problem.. never thought Zelda games would do that

this is so true

This is my pipeline. I loved MM and Twilight Princess being connected.

Which character ?

​@@IsraelLlerenaTingle

@@IsraelLlerena probably Mineru

Fi? I mean the master sword?

Midna.

Ikr

You’re not alone. A lot of people despised this game ngl

like fuyibayashi said, totk can play a long time after a destruction of hyrule or maybe in the branched timeline in skyward sword so alot of things can be different but thats just theories which will probs never get an answer from nintendo cause they dont care

@@LogoKroko maybe they put in stuff like that thinking they can feed the og zelda fans with it, or stuff like the armors from previous zeldas in totk

Age of Calamity is much more entertaining that BoTW or ToTK

People need to apologize to Age of Calamity.

Age of Calamity was always my favorite in this era of the Wild trilogy of games

Yeah same here tbh. Look, I love the game and I love Zelda's story in this game. For it just shows how much she has grown since BOTW and it made me very emotional at the end and I'm proud of her. That being said, it is no doubt that ths games story could use some SERIOUS improvement. DLC could really help patch it up if they just went ahead and make it. There are too many unanswered questions. Kass' disappearance is a whole damn mystery, sorry wise we don't know all that much about the Zonai nor what happend, who are the 3 dragons and the Ancient Hero??? And ffs we don't even know the names to the ancient sages!!

This game is the epitome of "refuses to elaborate". I loved the game itself but the way the lore was handled is so frustrating. Just one million potential questions with no answers given.

The worst part is that this is "the new zelda and the foundation going forward". It's very much possible that we will never get any additions to the original lore ever again...

@@ShikiRyougi05 I'm fine with it mechanic wise... but fuck, I want the old lore back.

The same thing happened to me! Playing ToTK just made me think about what I would want to see, I ended up drafting a whole lore and mechanics document, spending hours writing and thinking. Transitioning ideas of what I thought ToTK would be into this new game...

Nah....it's Links game, always will be and rightfully so.

@@Dd-fb2tj Absolutely not.

Princess Zelda is my favorite fictional character of all time and she's been done so dirty. I never expected her to be playable because let's not kid ourselves, the franchise doesn't have the best track record when it comes to women. But when I first booted up the game and explored the depths with her I got so excited. She was my companion! Alas, a few minutes in and she falls into a hole... The whole game I was looking for her, I was in denial. I thought "maybe she'll be my companion EVENTUALLY". But that moment never came. The closest thing to a "Zelda companion" the game has is that one Yiga clan member disguised as her on the Great Plateau.

​@@Dd-fb2tj Last time I checked the game was called The Legend of Zelda, not The Legend of Link.

@@sophitiaofhyrule maybe you should play the games then and establish who the playable character and main protagonist is

BotW was bad though. TotK was better than BotW in every way, it actually felt like a Zelda game. I would've enjoyed TotK more if I had never played BotW.

As a fellow Xenoblade fan. Welcome. Come for the anime girls, stay for the existential philosophy and Gnosticism.

Totk was supposed to be dlc and you can tell by how some things arent as fleshed out as they couldve been. The priorities were clearly on the gameplay and it came at a cost of dungeons, story, world, graphics etc.

Xenoblade is incredible mate. All three of the games are amazing (tho my personal favourite is Xenoblade Chronicles 2).

@@TwelveDaysofHalloween depends on the player, BOTW was very much Zelda to people like me, only different from what many became used to. TOTK is great but adds on top without feeling as organic, and what reminds of "traditional" Zelda isn't what I'd call clear benefits: sky islands are platforms to renew surface exploration more than interesting places to discover, the depths are a great concept spread too thin, the linear story isn't integrated well with the open world (out of order memories, awkward main quest dialogues), old lore is either overshadowed without developing its replacement much (no Goddess(es) or Triforce, only vague Zonai with stones, now Sheikah tech is "just gone") or repeated without adding to it (Ganondorf), temple approaches and themes are a great iteration but their puzzles forgettable. Yet I really like the game, but I preferred BOTW as a coherent experience despite all it didn't have, it benefited from novelty and focus.

*scruffy voice* second

For old series, I can see the appeal of them trying to re-invent themselves and surprise people. But stopping to think about it, I am curious why they cannot do this using the ingredients they themselves put in their cupboard? The Legend of Zelda lore has so many ingredients that using them in new and interesting ways and subverting expectations in a positive manner shouldn't be that difficult. Provided they have folk who actually know about the lore, and think about the lore. It begins to feel to me like many times fans are more in the loop on lore than developers, and as an aspiring author myself (noting here I am not a game developer) it does come off as a bit baffling how these development teams struggle to join the rather rich lore with new ideas for new games into a coherent and juicy package. A lot of the times, it feels like developers even want to just start from a fresh table, rather than tinkering and having someone in the loop deal with the world building and storytelling to make it all excitingly interesting. Lore masters in these teams don't seem to get too well utilized.

@@videocrowsnest5251 Exactly. At this point fans care more about the lore than Nintendo does and it's sad

I loved both games, and I loved the story in TOTK, but I didn't think the lore was particularly great in either game. But I also felt like the lore in both Skyward Sword and Twilight Princess was terrible, too. And yet both were fan favorites to discuss by Zelda tubers. All of these games basically established completely original origin story ideas for the Hyrule too. (Except BOTW, technically.) Twilight Princess has the Oocca Skyward Sword has a brand new never-before-seen Goddess, named Hylia, and a ludicrously stupid origin for Ganondorf TOTK has the Zonai and Rauru Until TOTK Zeldatubers just ate everything up without question and make long-winded ridiculous theories on nothing. Eventually that house of cards was going to collapse, and it finally has. I would love the Zelda team to change their ways and actually delve into the lore in a proper and deep way, but I've long-since come to the conclusion that they don't really care. I'll still try to make sense of it in the best way I can, though, based on what the games say. But unless the devs actually _try_ to make the lore work better in the future, I just won't really care about what they do or show anymore and simply enjoy each game as an individual experience, and headcanon ways to make the lore work that otherwise shouldn't work.

Fujibayashi didn't hint at anything, he said its possible. It was a non-answer to allow anyone to decide what they wanted. Which is exactly what lore enthusiasts do NOT want. They want answers, not more half-hearted "oh it can be whatever you want". It just further shows they don't care. (But tbh, they never really cared that much.) The refounding theory falls apart in numerous different ways as is. Its easily one of the worst ideas given it completely contradicts what the game itself is trying to tell us. That doesn't mean what the game is trying to tell us makes much sense either, but "refounding" further doesn't make sense either. In context, I think Fujibayashi wasn't even talking about a far future founding, they were talking about how the "Kingdom of Hyrule" was established at the end of Skyward Sword, and this doesn't resemble that founding at all. (That's not actually what happened, according to Hyrule Historia. According to HH, after Skyward Sword was the Era of Chaos, _then_ the founding of Hyrule, which actually lines up a lot better with this lore; King Rauru established a peaceful kingdom after a long era of chaos. TOTK Ganondorf believes the chaotic era made people stronger and he sets to prove Rauru wrong. But Fujibayashi doesn't know enough about the series lore to care much about this.)

@@JaidynReiman Given it's the first thing that came to his mind when asked makes it a strong contender. The pre-story of Minish Cap has to happen between SS and MC. TotK's past has no place there, given that it spans a long time, Zonai descending and departing included. A destroyed Hyrule would result in a time of chaos as well. Nothing you mentioned invalidates the idea of a re-founding. It also would make everyone involved in OoT less foolish, since such a massive war would be fresh in history books and minds alike. Trusting another Ganondorf (another thing that'd suck and diminish Ganondorf's role of that time) after that makes the king look even dumber. Not to mention the castle issue, being built and re-built or moved apparently. No, TotK's past being between SS and MC makes less sense than having it long after any timeline's last game.

Hello, I am still watching this ;) Love Zelda, Mario, all Bethesda titles, Subnautica (recently-it’s AMAZING), Minecraft, smash bros, SF6. Elden ring still, etc! If you make vids on any of the stuff I like in your bandit style, you can count on my views 🫡