These Are the Worst Models That Games Workshop Makes! 

I can't agree with you here Jay. These all look pretty fun in silly way. And the bases are important. Everything should have bases. They unify the army.

Is this Jay's worst take? I can't believe it I'm usually 90% on board but this one I'm only 20% sure he has a point

I really like the endless spells, conceptually. I think they have the potential to be some of the coolest models GW makes because they're very unrestrictive visually, but instead of these insane magic explosions we get duplicated spider, two halves of a bone bridge. As they currently stand their greatest use is as kitbash fodder.

Some of the coolest minis: *exist * Jake: IT hAs A bAsE

So, I can see where you're coming from Jay. Because if my research was correct, it's not the miniature sculpting team that designed the Endless Spells, but the Scenery Department. So it would make sense why you might not see the same sense of life or energy from them as normal miniatures. They were made by the people who sculpt the terrain kits. Also, I think for the purposes of gameplay, the Endless Spells *need* a base, so you have a "uniform", fixed point to measure their abilities from. This would matter for things that don't have uniform fixture points like the Burning Sigil or the Daemonic Simmulacrum in Tzeentch. Those don't have very wide points that would affix them to the table to let them stand on their own, much less measure abilities from, it'dbe so much shorter compared to the Bloodwrack Viper, which as you said has *multiple* points that could affox it to a table. So to account for that, GW might have to do really strange stuff with ranges of abilities if theyre working off of whatever random points of contact the models have to the tabletop, if they can stand at all on their own. If you ask me, they *need* a base to function. And beyond that, for some of them, the base adds an extra layers to the design, the Stormcast Metero, the Everblaze Comet, you can see on the base the churned up earth behind it, and in front is the buildup of soil that's been created from the impact zone, if it were just the Meteor itself, we wouldn't have that sense that it's punched a hole in the ground where it landed. The base there actually adds to the look of the piece itself, which I think is something else to take into account if you don't care about mechanics.

For a moment i thought that the title of the video was ironic. Out of all the gw model series, there is no other that is more useful for kitbashing

I guess the reasoning for having bases is to have a uniform point of origin for measurements while playing and ensuring the models are treated "equally" across games. I think "Big models" also suffer from this issue, where a super cool model like Krondys/Karazai or Morathi look super dope on their own, but there's also a big old base underneath them, which is just empty space that you'll need to make interesting somehow. That being said, GW should probably have opted for sculpted, translucent bases in an appropriate "faction" color instead of regular old black discs. Eg. the Tzeentch spells would have looked so cool sculpted in yellow translucent plastic with the top of the base being sculpted as if on fire, the "undead" spells would have looked sweet with bases in dark teal plastic modelled with skull-stuff and smoke and the blood stuff would look much better being translucent like what blood actually is. Maybe generally the models should have been cast in translucent plastic to make them stand out as "tokens" - people could then just paint the bits they'd want to look less ethereal on them. Edit. For the Daughters of Khaine "hand" spell, I carved out the center "heart" shape, put some translucent red film into place and installed a red LED inside, allowing the light when turned on to glow through the "window" as well as out the bottom of the hand. ... I also mounted a khaine-ified Light of Eltharion with LEDs installed into the torso standing on top - it still looks goofy as hell but the lighting helps sell the idea of it being some kind of magic effect rather a worldly "thing".

I don’t really understand your distaste for the bases. GW bases always look very default and not that fitting, but that goes for all models. Why is it any worse than a base on a vehicle?

Could not agree less, i love the bases of endless spells, they also allow you to add a glow to the burning ones

Hot take. Bases are totally needed and the worst sculpts (Night Haunt) are just about equivalent or better than several of the minis your patreon has released (Demonettes).

Dice rolling across the table break immersion for me. Idk I like the 3D spell sculpts.

Gotta measure from them, so the bases are a must. By and large I love the sculpts too, personally.

They look a bit goofy sure, but warhammer (fantasy, AOS and 40K) has always had a goofy side to them, so to me these fit in perfectly.

"It's not how this would work in real life" "blood doesn't look like this" Bro, it's magic

Gotta disagree on the whole bases thing. All endless spells have ranges that need consistent measurements, and a base has a far clearer point to measure to. Without them, there would be room for abuse in measuring to points on the minis with all their extra overhanging parts.

I don’t think I’ve ever agreed less with a take. Great looking models across the board and outside of that amazing conversion fodder. I don’t know what the hang up on bases is about. You need to be able to move, measure from, and transport these and bases facilitate that.

I'm sitting here thinking all of these look sweet. Guess I have bad taste in tacky effects when it comes to AoS :p

I think part of why these models have bases is so you can measure from the edge of the base for movement purposes in the tabletop.

The gloomspite ones could all individually be album covers

I'm sad with all of your discussion you didn't talk at all about the 'neutral' endless spells, that's where the best designed ones live!

"Tokens shouldn't have bases" *stares at lovingly crafted gravesite markers with headstones etc that are on bases and cries* (Made them back when the card token was the size of an oval base, not the current penny sized one)

I think that if the endless spells had special bases that looked like magic arcana, instead of regular dirt like the rest of the army, Jay would like them more.

Strong disagree about the bases, but i base tanks soooo each to their own. ✨️

I don't know, I think you are just finishing for something to hate since you constantly keep saying "this is lame" or "that is lame". I honestly think they all look rather awesome, including their paint jobs. I could totally see myself using these minis for other games besides Warhammer.

I have to say, I usually agree with him, but not here. And that is fine, but a couple of things I had issue with: 1) repeating the complaint against bases for every spell. 2) you should really read the flavor text for each of these. There is so much lore there.

Sylvaneth endless spells are perfection

I legit wanted Jay to roast Nighthaunts a lil more 😂

I like silly Warhammer. Which sometimes means being uncool.

😂 the hammer tornado immediately had me looking for Tara Reed and the Sharknado.

Fun fact, the Beastmen endless spells cost the same as a single flock of old finecast Razorwing. You literally could toss the horn and the taurus away and still get three times the value out of that one.

In todays episode Jay gets annoyed at bases for 20 minutes 🤣

I think the endless spells are more a product of designers in training, far better to cut their teeth on these rather then a mainline unit. Seems Jay's biggest bugbear is just they all use bases 🤣

Stormcast meteor belongs on every Mordheim table

The chaos symbol with the face belching fire would be a cool shield for a demon prince or some other big grandiose chaos model. Like hold up a shield that spits fire at anyone on the other side. That would be cool. I agree most of these would be better as kitbash pieces.

I'm going to feel ripped off if Seraphon don't get some sweet looking spells.

Whats awful to me is most endless spell are only used for measuring then you remove it from play (burning head) one example

You're right. For GW to be charging 10,000% on plastic they could at least try.

Storm of hammers would be cooler if the hammer heads were facing outward of the storm, as it is the spell looks like you're just as liable to get hit with the storm of handles than the storm of hammers.

Definitely many that should just have been units, like finish the death boatman and put him as a real unit could be really cool. I personally like bases but it gets a bit awkward if its a "generic" or grand alliance spell you may be using in more than one force.

Don't agree with a single word uttered in this video... still good just to hear Jay's thoughts, ha ha!

I think the clear plastic actually would have made a ton of sense. The bases however... its for gameplay rules, so I get it.

I really like endless spells, especially the flesh eater court ones- sure it’s my faction but it’s takes into shape with its use, as the Chalice brings back wounds and models. So I enjoy it’s esthetic as a way to show the feast that drives the court. And bases may be weak, but it’s not something that can’t be fixed with not to much difficulty.

My first job when I was 16 was at Spirit Halloween, so I enjoyed your Nighthaunt take-down.

It's hilarious that the storm of hammers has all the hammers perfectly upright.

James just finished a bunch of bases and really didn't want to even think about them any more lmao

Bases are important, no one wants their beautiful paintwork to be scraping against the ground and to be smudged by greasy fingers because there's nowhere to pick it up from.

I can't get past the "They're tokens" argument? They have movement and effects. Essentially summonable units like the undead in malifaux

The blood filled chalice floats across the battlefield and blood starts bursting out of the enemies eyes. Blood starts to boil and it begins to rain blood and the ground becomes slick.

its funny I almost never agree with EonsOfBattle on what looks cool and doesn't, I like these models

I really like the Storm of Hammers. It looks ridiculous yes, but that makes it really really cool

I’m confused

They could just add transparent bases as well

Watchers in the dark have been on bases for a long time... And they are tokens.

I'm not sure I understand why you're complaining about the blood snakes scales being "copy pasted" as if you were hoping that every single scale would be a unique shape, which would make the model incredibly confusing to look at.

Nighthaunts hurt me. But I will say I like the fist grabbing the heart from the Daughters of Khane.

Wow I'm actually kinda mind blown that there is a video where I wholly disagree with you. While I understand the thoughts around the bases, they definitely unify the army. Sure they may not match the ground you're walking on, but when my Slaves to Darkness drop a spell that has a base matching theirs, it really sells the spell as spilling in with the army. I definitely agree some of the sculpts feel a little lazy, but at the end of the day in my opinion they're all magic! They're not supposed to make sense or look 'realistic'. It really sells the fantasy idea to me! :D

Take a drink ever time he talks about Bases.. You'll hit the floor.

My wife got me the Sigmar endless spells because she thought the Hammer-nado was the coolest mini she'd ever seen.

Hey Jay, idk if you'll see this but I watch your show every day after my night shift at the ER. Watching you talk about minis helps me unwind and makes me happy. I was wondering what your thoughts on the rampant games like dragon rampant or xenos rampant? Stay awesome man

These are one of the coolest models i have ever seen

Dude it’s a tornado of hammers are you out of your mind!? That rocks!

As goofy as the hammer tornado looks, I think I'd piss myself irl if I saw one of those things advancing towards me, to goofy

I can’t agree with you here, all the models look pretty dope, and most NEED bases as they move and you need to measure them, and while I agree some look lazy (looking at you scuttleswarm) I think they all are unique and cool and more than just tokens….I know for sure I will personally be picking up Lauchon the soulseeker from the forbidden spells cause boat skeleton…cool

A case for fully transparent bases.

Sorry Jay you're alone on this one I think everything should have a base it's a universal all-uniting aspect of the game

The Hammer-Nado is dope lol

Cool. Double down on this and make better ones for next month's patreon, and we'll see what we think of those.

Once upon a time, in days of old, I had a friend that worked in a plastic injection factory. He would bring home all kinds of strange lumps of various kinds of plastic. It would be the drippings from nozzles and feed lines. Some of them made for interesting terrain pieces (he played Chaos demons) but a few looked like a wave of stone or lava bursting from the ground or fire that was spreading outward and then strangely melting into the sky like the tentacles of jellyfish. We used to come up with ideas for "spells" and "psychic powers" as models instead of rules long before "endless spells" came along. I was really hoping for amazing things from GW even if just for converting and basing. But a lot of the spells were a major let down. The Blood Snake is pretty cool though. And ice always wanted the bull on fire. I never saw the Sylvaneth ones before! I want that tree to make into a tree lord/Centaur/Ursala sea witch kinda thing

Gonna pile onto the “worst take” trend. Making tokens into visually cool minis is a good way to do tokens. A token would take up similar diameter.

In defense of the rats it’s the paint jobs fault because in lore it’s supposed to be ethereal rats being summoned and the warp lightning vortex is literally warpstone thrown out that expands into a small storm

I really like endless spells, for some reason to me magic feels too abstract even more than shooting, so a visual representation of a spell on the table looks awesome and intimidating

Back again for my dose of Jay’s roasts! Roast Legion next! They got more minis! I wanna hear your thoughts on the old wookie warriors vs new wookie warriors 😆

To me, most living spells are designed to appeal to potential younger players, who grew up on the likes of LoL and other games, where spell type actions/effects are present on the map.

Nope. This one ain't it, chief. These spells look amazing. Just because they may not meet your specific imagining of them does not mean they aren't imaginative, and I think they are at least a useful item to give scale and draw attention to a spell that your enemy needs to take seriously. "Invariably, your bases aren't going to have the right terrain!" Yeah. Duh. Your units have the exact same quandary and no one cares. If you have brown dirt on your bases but you're on a snowy map, you get over it. It's fine.

I would argue that the Nighthaunt are already pretty Scooby-Doo

I say this with the greatest respect and in the friendliest way possible, because you're a cool dude and I like your videos - including this one ;p I absolutely love the Endless Spell models, I'd personally put them up there with some of my favourites. It might be because I've always been a big advocate for strange and unrealistic monsters, I love the "floating brain/eyeball/mass of whatsit" trope in D&D aberration type monsters, highly symbolic monstrous avatars of alchemy and Goetic practices, surreal RPG enemies (especially those that broadly fall under the "elemental" category), figurative stuff in contemporary art, even all those Pokémon based on inanimate objects that everyone else seems to hate - I love that stuff! I can honestly state that an entire faction of itinerant self-aware spells would be a dream come true for me. Admittedly I don't think all of the Endless Spells are equally good, but I genuinely like all of them.

I've gotta disagree with you about the bases thing. Having them on bases allows for more dynamic poses (like one small piece of the magic effect touching the ground, because the base gives it stability. It also gives everything a cohesive look. When I started playing 40k, the weirdest thing to me was that things like tanks don't go on bases. Most games rely on uniform base sizes to ensure that measuring distances is more accurate.

I think the soul boat thing actually makes sense to have a base cause I think of it as the ferryman coming from the entrance of the underworld to the real world to shepherd the dead to the afterlife and that he’s just rowing around the battlefield in a ghost type way taking the souls off the battlefield

I think the Daughters of Khaine blood is meant to be aged coagulated blood. It wouldn't splash the way fresh blood and water does.

I do not mind the endless spells being on bases, especially for the more flimsy looking ones.

Huh, I like army rules, because I'll try and represent them on the army too. Like, my Necrons have the pregame move and +1 to hit army wide; I painted them in camo with different colored weapons, so it's easy to explain and remember what they have, and it makes their army feel like their ability.

6:30 There is a spell in Dark Magic called Bladewind. I never envisioned it as anything but literal flying knives.

It would make sense if they used transparent bases since most of them are supposed to be floating

There is literally one box that is just regular endless spells that everyone can take so thats your last point covered

Yeah I prefer the bases. Makes it seem more United and worthwhile

the whole thing with bases not fitting the terrain of the game is why i've swapped to using clear acrylic bases wherever possible

From a Gamedesign View - could it be that they thought that a few of these spells could look like Terrain? And with Bases it's a bit more obvious?

I will say that the flying Cherub tokens that Adepta Sororitas use look fantastic and are totally on theme.

Faction terrain irks me about Age of Sigmar. Alot of times its free in terms of points so its an "auto-include". But to me it feels like "I'm paying $60 dollars so I can paint this tree that gets me 0 points closer to completing this army". And alot of it is ugly :/

Yo those gloomspite gitz spiders made my jaw drop... I've messed around with Blender for maybe 12 hours, no essential no experience 3D modeling, but I do know that ain't it....

I feel like there is some barely suppressed spell token related trauma going on from Jay's past here. Where you bullied by spell effect tokens as a kid Jay? This is a safe space... oh, no, wait. It's a RU-vid comments section... NOT SAFE! ABORT!

I can honestly vibe with it, most of the models end up being absolutely uncreative and only the tzeentch one gives me a spark to collect an army because It’s tzeentch, it’s creative innately, but everyone else is just goofy and I can’t vibe with goofy after my expectations have been ruined by total war- where’s my flaming skull! Where’s my giant boat that rams through hundreds of boys! Where’s my normal lightning bolt! I hope AOS gets revamped so they can retire the old spells and introduce new ones (with rules for the old ones if you still have them) so I can have my chaos fireskull

Rule of Cool. It doesn't matter how realistic/silly/unbelievable is as long as it looks cool you can get away with it.

All these endless spells are totallly fine and would be worth it if they were a 1/4 of the price! What makes them unacceptable is the crazy pricing they expect people to pay for something GW barely tried on.

When you get a box of endless spells, you immediately see a dip in quality when you compare them to the regular minis. They're pretty trash.

You forgot some Endless Spells and Invocations: Malign Sorcery Magmic Invocations Judgements of Khorne (Balewind Vortex)

I'm with the comments on this one, most of the endless spells are super dope and I think the hammer tornado is sick. I also disagree about the bases. Bases aren't a problem on miniatures so why would they be a problem on spells? Plus, we need to measure out an effect radius so it serves an important gameplay purpose

Biggest problem with games workshop is that they are reaching the point where they feel they can release anything an people will buy it. Happened to apple kinda happening to GW now

The argument about the bases not matching is moot. If you make your Lumineth all fancy with cherry blossoms and pastels and the map you play is a volcano they will look awkward anyways. They don't match the map you're playing in, so it is nitpicking. Having your spells then reflect your bases at least separates the environment and the opponent players. Sure some of the ones being mirrors of each other or even duplicates when there is only like 4 spells is a bit of a goofy bit. Sucks to have dupes when you have a small selection.

Just yesterday I was fighting Beast of Chaos, where my opponent summoned the Bull Endless spell. It was so hard to comprahand it's just a token .. It's huge plastic model, that I can move through, that does not keep me in combat that's just there. It was one of the coolest looking one in set (altho in my case it was gray plastic) but it was so confusing on table.