@@dominiquesmith7680I mean it goes without saying. You can't really be THAT big in the US without having a huge white fanbase. Black ppl alone won't get you to that type of success
@@simz88 I don't disagree with you. The thing is, Wayne also has an inconsistent catalogue, he dropped a lot of classics, lots of mid, and some trash. And as time has gone on, his output has become less interesting. Nobody has proper cared about a Wayne project since Carter V. But even today, no one comes at Wayne for his inconsistency or the waning quality of his output (and they shouldn't). My point is, how can you say the reason Eminem doesn't belong in a GOAT list is because his catalogue is inconsistent, but then say Wayne, another rapper with a great but inconsistent catalogue, is the Goat? It's hypocritical and makes little sense. Also, just in general, what kinda of rapper with 3 classic albums "cannot" be considered one of the GOATs, what logic is that?
No cole... kendrick.. nor nas... But pac... 50.. jay being last.. and DRE IS NOT EVEN A FUCKING ARTIST ANYMORE.. YET THEY HERE??!!? on some real shit what demographic is this..
fr. the question was "rapper" not hip-hop artist. terms completely interchangeable to a certain caliber of individual and why dre and 50 were here but wayne and nas weren't
I been saying that for years and I fuck with Future. Bro always be shitting on other rappers for not switching up they content and rapping about different things, Future BEEN rapping bout the say shit for YEARS and not a peep.
@@lemotekthat's what future music is. But he ALWAYS has a different flow and sound. That's what separates him. It'd all preference. U either like hype music more or lyrical 😴
I’m almost willing to give Shawn a pass for shitting on Kendrick because he’s clearly just tired of the discourse, but Future over Nas is absolute fucking insanity.
Over Kendrick is insane but i feel like in 10 years you guys realize what Future really was. Just because those names you mentioned were from the 90's doesnt mean they're automatically better than the rest of the competition. Not every fucking top 30 has to be 70% 90's rappers the oldhead bias is insane
when you consider the demographic of the area they're surveying (prob somewhere like orange county/LA) it makes sense 😭 no 62 yr old recently retired cover director is bumping 3 peat
@@NO0Kn0OK we talk abt recency bias all the time but we dont talk enough abt oldie bias. classic rappers always get more props even if theyre objectively less skilled than newer rappers.
I mean…what does KDot have to do at this point to be GOAT? Multiple certified classics Pulitzer Prizes winner Multiple Grammys Battle rapper Pop level fame w/o selling out No baggage/drama Solid features with legends He made Gen Z study lyrics again😅 I don’t think it’s recency bias.
I'm pretty sure they used to do these surveys in Mall of America- which is Minnesota. If the question was "who would some midwestern whites think are the best rappers", this list isn't a surprise at all lol. They don't even know anybody new, and just the most heard names of those who are old
I actually understand this list, not defending it though. Tupac and B.I.G. are like MJ and Prince, so any casual would know them / Snoop Dogg, Eminem, Dr. Dre and 50 Cent performed at the Superbowl recently / LL Cool J was really big in the 80s and was on NCIS / Jay-Z is married to Beyonce. They clearly polled Gen Xers for this list.
@@TheSkaOreo true but same could be said about Wayne and Kendrick and he was okay with both. I feel like Big and Tupac deserve their status and are at least worthy of note.
I believe this list is the result of them polling people who stopped listening to hip hop in the 2000s. It's a list from people who were mildly into rap music or just in passing and then completely tuned it out after 2000-something.
This isn’t a ranking of best rappers based on skill. Family feud normally asks 100 people their thoughts. So they made the list based on what 100 people said.
as someone who has no hiphop heads in their friend group, i saw all the Xs coming from a mile away. nbd in the pop audience knows nas. snoop at number 1 is kinda wild tho
The answers on Family Feud are designed to be lowest common denominator and extremely basic, so they prob asked people's 50+ year old aunts and uncles in the survey beforehand lol. I was expecting LL Cool J to be up there
Remember seeing this on TV and being offensively surprised but then I remembered that this makes sense considering who they surveyed. Game shows are usually watched by middle aged housewives. I'm assuming a similar demographic was surveyed. Snoop for a while showed up on daytime TV often with Martha Stewart and in game shows. Ll Cool J is still a sex symbol to these old heads. Eminem and 50 were the hottest rappers to white Gen X'ers in the early 2000's. The rest are deemed default answers by cultural osmosis.
Completely overlooked Method & Wu-Tang, Mobb Deep, Gang Starr, as far as groups go, and how has Twista still not gotten his flowers for talks of one of the greatest RAPPERS. Twista would write circles around most rappers.