They're Banning "Short" Characters 

I’m a furry and while I’m not a lolicon or shotacon I know what they are and know that they have nothing to do with real children

​@@KozakuraRabbitrare sighting of someone with an IQ above 70

These tourist that have joined the fandom over the past 7 to 8 years are the ones being like this. These are the same people who have joined and ruined the Anime Community also

As a furry, I like shotas, and not a single time I'm compared art to reality

Art vs reality

And somehow is oddly targeted as verbal harassment against physicalities.

notice how the girl/woman that posted was asking about herself, yet they deflected that into something about an OC? because they didnt wanna go down that rabbit hole, there are lots of short women that look younger just because of how short they are, and they cant change that

yeah and they pull the same shit with woman who work out at the gym because a woman cant be muscular because that makes her a transgender or a man but i see these woman at the gym daily and they look smoking hot, you would think guys would like a chick who likes to keep a tight figure but they just feel threatened by it.

not just short but a cups i guess. So small chested women and short women both are now "lolis" apparently? this is just a mind disease at this point. I dated a girl who was 4'11" and a b cup, i guess any man is a pedo who dates that woman. these people are lunatics.

That is correct as you say. how their brain has gone now? that their are short adult too

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Funny, the same thing seems to be happening in real life. I've been seeing people entirely seriously using the word "children" to refer to people in their twenties.

yeah because its not about the "Age" it never was. they can careless about that. its just a power trip. they get a taste of power because of some old poorly written laws and they loose control of themselves. no more "innocent tell proven guilty" that only applies to them. "oh there is a chance it *might* make someone do something bad". *might* its not guarantied. but just locking people up over a maybe is crazy. that is what tyrants do. they deal in absolutes. even if its a 99% chance they might do something wrong. there is always that 1% they wont do it. but locking them up well that's 100%. people always say this and that tell its against them. then they are the exception.... foolish mindset to have. dealing with stuff like this is a slippery sloop. it can end up effecting a lot more then some fetish art. movies, music, video games, books and well even laws..... it just takes 1 case in a court to change how a law works. 1 case that is it...... then its 2, 3 and so on. tell the real monsters walk the streets. all because" well I don't like it so it shouldn't exist".... a mindlessly oblivious statement.... the world isn't perfect and it doesn't revolve around you. outlawing something because you don't like it. that is pretty much like burning down your own house because you stubbed your toe on one of its walls. art is subjective.... it effects everyone differently. if you have these types of reactions to said art.... well that says more about you then it says about the actual art... people tend to project their own mindset on others a lot. stop fighting your own demons and blaming everyone else and seek help.. therapy is okay

@@FestusOmega yeah, but some people in their 20s are just children who are a little taller than average, we call them "twitter users"

Its become a bad habit of mine to call everyone "kid". Its especially awkward when the are much older than me

True, wtf is an adult proportions?!

Not to mention anyone with any degree of dwarfism, shorter limbs, longer torsos, etc. This whole thing has long passed ridiculousness.

GIrls stop growing at 16, some at 14 are more busty than adults. Still in some cases 16 is a "minor" after having physically fully developed. In the end it's entirely subjective unless it's some chibi character It's all BS anyway, how about just: recognize fiction as fiction and not real life? What good is this grandstanding going to do anyway?

@@pc_suffering6941 Means needs to have breast implants and I'm not kidding

@@cuteandfunnymusic I don't look very adult but many people convince me that "natural beauty is better" and I myself can't be bothered enough to change my appearance Still want to attract people

Compare an anthro to an actual animal. Now compare a loli to an actual underage character. The latter comparison is often closer and most furries (and just everyone outside the anime community in general) think loli is the same as cub, which they also hate. I think FA’s rules are pretty dumb, but I can understand why they did it, especially in this environment where everyone on Twitter is on a p3d witch-hunt.

At least they don't represent the majority of us BASED furries.

Facts, abusing animals is genuinely worse. They have less intelligence potential than humans at any age.

You know, the fools are the loudest ones. You have no problem so you don't shout. But they think different. And people only hear those who speak.

I’m really confused how they think furry doesnt equal real but IoIi does? What ab nanachi lmao am i supposed to kidnap a tiny bunny and commit half of a crime?? Also Judy V nanachi like ok they both changed appearance how come one is ok and not the other?

Worse, they're going by proportions

Yeah and it's ironic since furries like to fuck animals, no matter their age. GD colon is one of them but atleast he doesn't harras people because he knows he is way worse.

Probably, but not this time.

I mean, anime in general is known for embellishing proportions. From hair, to the usual eyes and mouth and yes, even body size. To pretend short adults don't exist in real life is ridiculous. It's always the "1000 year old vampire loli" argument, which is tiresome. Any look at my "collection" and you'll find average and taller Women in higher numbers than petite girls. Any look at Loli and you'll find that most of them are more "developed" than you'd find any child, which are generally flat with no secondary sex characteristics. Oh and no, you can't be a p-do AND like adult Women, that's not how it works. P-dos are exclusively attracted to children, which most Loli art is not. I really wish they could get this through their heads, but it's always fearmongering nonsense. The furries are the most egregious in this and they'll entirely ignore "cub", which ARE supposed to be children. All because what? Fur and minor animal features. Yet they still have humanoid body shapes, with humanoid sex characteristics. (Unless you count feral, which is just plain disgusting.)

These people also shame actual asian bodytypes in real life and say anyone attracted to them are pedos. And lo and behold they are neon haired and/or landwhales who look more like Howard Taft, or Nickaco Avocado for those who don't know history.

lol icons r literally pedos-

fair is fair

its not fair tho. because furries fantasize about real animals while lolicons are only into fictional 2d characters. theres no correlation between cp and lolicon because cp requires an involvement of a real child. so its impossible for you to be a pedo just by looking at 2d fiction.

To be fair, they already are, it doesnt really matter at this point, has happened even before they went after lolis.

It's not the fandom, it's powertripping admins

Yea.

If that ain't ironic. That's like leaving the basketball off the court but want players to continue playing.

E621 is better

They want to censor, not bring art.

But not Danbooru 👍

was thinking the same thing, waiting for the future rev vid that will out this people as the same thing they claim to be fighting against in the near future, maybe?

@@jamesw8698 Already happen in discord and a lot of Neighbor pets being rape.

​@@Underground3by furries of course.

Damn good point

You know, that would perfectly explain why they're contradicting themselves like that

i dont mean this in the way its usually meant, maybe you should make one of these websites yourself, have those rules, then all those tired of this BS will flock to yours

Yeah, but how would you grandstand on top of your metaphorical pillar of superiority if you can't restrict others via your strict guidelines.

Art is always like that

They want to have their cake and eat it too. How will they be authoritarian if the rules aren't vague?

Or: "You can post on our site whatever the law allows you to. Sorry Germans, no Swastikas for you to post, but you are allowed to look at them drawn by not Germans."

I remembered years ago the backlash on underaged characters some artists had to draw a drivers license to prove they're 18+ on their porn images or a speech bubble to the character stating their age. It made me want to not support those artists anymore because of how obnoxious it was.

same. If i will be in anime, i will be banned for being looking young and short.

​@@sinamaruthaitetsu3005 same too! Liking me would be illegal 😢

Dont qorry, fur affinity for blm is not even that famous :V Just some schmuck with outside world problems

Ah, I have found my kin. Short Young Looking people, unite! (Possibly in a Voltron or Megazord formation)

Don’t worry, tweeter freaks have already attacked a couple cause he was a giant and she was short short. I don’t remember their names but someone in the comments probably know the names.

Being able to unironically write that with a straight face tells you how stable most furries are

That is another "I was born at a very young age" if I've ever seen one

i was born fully grown with massive tits

So when Pixiv does something stupid, is the whole anime community to blame? Think you’re over generalizing there. But yeah, I’d love a buyout or coup, exile the mods completely out of the fandom.

What's the equivalence there? You gonna pick up a pitchfork to chase Looney Toons, Tom and Jerry, Wild Thornberries, George of the Jungle, and hundreds more?

@@mylastaccountgotdeletedtha6936 But he never said the anime community?

@@warlerker I’m using that as a way to say “making broad generalizations about a community is hypocritical when you’re in a very similar community.”

They added the transition for transgender people, I garauntee. Plus, vore is 100% a sexual fetish.

In their defense, dogs don't stand on two legs while simultaneously having humanoid bodies/intelligence and wearing clothes. But I see what you mean. Tldr, I do not vibe with the feral tag.

@@BlooMonkiMan _>dogs don't stand on two legs_ Diogenes_behold!.jpg

@@nickkorkodylas5005 The what? And don't nitpick my shit bruh u know damn well dogs don't have human bodies.

​@@BlooMonkiMan And children don't look like cartoons

With how delusional they are, I'm guessing no.

They can't.

They really can't. Especially on Twitter, they don't have that ability.

They can't. Every time they show how they think that drawings are literally real.

@@xenoemblem7 Was booted off of a server a few months ago for sharing the same views as Rev _had to say that I expected it and the server self-nuked later_

True, some clothes are too long or wide, makes me cringe when I have to go to the kids section because of it 😔

As a fur myself the furry fandom is HIGHLY toxic, hypocritical and intolerant.

Yeah...😅

yeah but their not, just check out the blm in the name, these guys are nazi's.

also westerners

It's not like animation and art excel at exaturating different features. Also some people are born short as some people are born tall, and to that I say, so what?

Antis don't like to see lolis at all, even in SFW and normal situations.

Right? I love the pastel and pastel goth ones on etsy

@@Soapy-chan_old yes, because they hate that loli is only a 2D drawing. They want to see the real deal

@@acmenipponair That is an unfair generalization

​@@Soapy-chan_old I dunno, alot of these antis have been exposed as actual child predators. Shit even EDP, the cupcake dude, have been trying to throw shade at anime, and the dude is a proven pedo.

We can laugh about that. At least I can. It's a way to feel superior over those people.

How would they have such giant children, if they're so small? Ow0 Just curious. x3

Ooh that’s sounds interesting

So in that take, he’s the only one to be posting it after the change. “Your oc looks too young!” “But you have a baby speared through…” “We aren’t talking about me here…”

@@RurouniHiro People were saying he's been deleting pics that might fit under those rules but the fact is Neer has always been a bit of a prick and terrible at running the site. Remember when he sold it to IMVU? Yeah that was a thing for a while. Also the donations he gets o improve the site are never used to actually improve the site. FA doesn't even have a blacklist feature.

@@Ashurman666 Thats very bad design. Almost forces you to go through things you would be disgusted by.

@@laughingcoffin1693 A blacklist is a feature that every single user has been begging for to be added for YEARS and yet it never did. Neer added FA+ which is a subscription service that gives you some features but that was the last major update the site got and that was implemented I think last year

by that logic vampire fans are necrophiliacs -_- some idiots fail to tell the difference between fiction and reality....

Well at least those lolicon degenerates keep their weird shit to drawings, furries actually simulate fucking animals and use animal dildos while doing it. Don't see a lot of kid sized fleshlights out there but for some reason Bad Dragon dildos are all the rage in porn and I would find both pretty equally fucking detestable. Doesn't mean I think either should be illegal, but shit's fucking weird and the furries trying to pull a switcharoo and throw the cartoon porn people under the bus when in my mind they're objectively the more reprehensible of the two is really funny to me.

I mean, most of the attraction is via body shape, the rest is window dressing. Loli are more "developed" than children by which p-dos are not attracted to and Anthro only have minor animal characteristics on top of a human body shape. For furry, part of it is the "exoticness" of the features, like having a thing for Latinas or Asian Women. The only exception to this might the Furries who like... Feral. Yeah no, screw that stuff. Toddlercon/Babycon are the exception to Loli and yeah, that shit is disgusting. Luckily it's pretty rare.

Damn, today I found out Toddlercon and Babycon are a thing and I want to go back to a minute ago when I did not.

Thank you, my thought exactly !!!!

LMAO

I've heard good things about Mastodon. The only things that Mastodon doesn't allow is illegal things.

For me, it's why I prefered to deal with pixiv artists over most platforms with full uncensorship. I want to draw a petite character, so what if cunny is censored? I rather have a censored genital pic than want full size characters.

​@@MaoRattoWell the route that Pixiv is going is sporadically fluctuating. (AI is borderline broad in many usage in Pixiv. Does that also ailenate human artists?)

Mastodon, Baraag, Inkbunny, maaaaybe Pixiv.

Furry here, e621 is probably the best site. They allow pretty much anything even somewhat furry related, and things only get taken down when the artist and/or character owner(s) file takedown requests, or if it's stuff that's supposed to be behind a paywall, like a patreon exclusive or something. Oh, and I suppose they don't allow AI art, but they did create a separate site exclusively for AI art just called e6ai.

He's also a big Vaush fan. 🐴

@@higgsbonbon Aw hell nah, give ‘em the Kero treatment already.

@@mylastaccountgotdeletedtha6936 Popufurs are practically invincible, furries operate on levels of nepotism and cronyism that would make your head spin.

​@@higgsbonbon thats arguably the worst thing i've learned about him lmao

Isn't vore fine because it can barely be considered sexual?

I hope you are doing well

Damn dog. Took a rock to the head for that girl and it still didn't work out?

Like @someguy4384, I'm curious as to why it didn't work out...

@@BlooMonkiMan she's an abusive alcoholic. I had to end it about a year later because I couldn't tolerate her behavior.

@@yourmomsoshi Oh i see... Man now I'm wondering if the Twitter freaks partly made her like that with the whole "short + no boobs = child" shit they refuse to stfu about....

5'3 🤙

5'0 and a lot of women's clothes/shoes/etc are too big for me. That means I have to get kid's clothes because it's only thing that fits me 🗿 People who think it's abnormal for adults to wear clothes that fits them really need to find real world problems to worry about.

so true. 5 foot 3, sometimes theres good stuff if you can still get into it...

4’11” :’)

Wait until they realize that even child characters were younger children once. Like a 10 yo was 4 at some point and they'll look different so their "safety measure" doesn't even work the way it's intended to

Hope your having fun!

@@HiddenRealm my height is 4'10 and i'm a 29 year old . my doctor didn't clinically diagnosed me with dwarfism. i'm just simply short :D

@@HiddenRealm "Dwarfism is generally defined as an adult height of 4 feet 10 inches (147 centimeters) or less." -Mayo Clinic

Inb4 they just accuse UO of child labor to “”””win”””” the argument

@@_candykisses they specifically said LESS than 4 feet tall. You are over 4 feet tall so they don’t mean you in their statement. No hate btw, gentle correction.

> isn't a real person To hell with your logic, I'm small and I wanna be loved and lewded

@@pc_suffering6941 I think what the OP commenter is referring to is NSFW drawings based on real life children, but even that is extremely hard for artists to avoid (unless they draw them very outlandishly) as there are so many character traits and features used by many children in real life. A person can easily assume and falsely accuse an artist of drawing a real life child they know of even if the artist made no intentional attempt to reference those real life children in their drawing. It can lead to possible complications that could get most loli or minor drawings banned or made illegal in the future. Even the older ones are not safe and many people already possessed them. I would also say the same for most NSFW drawings of adult characters. I don't want things to get to the point where artists or other people have to research or redo every drawing they made, possess, or want to possess to be sure no real child is referenced. That is extremely annoying and insane to do, especially if done on a regular basis.

lmao

Why couldn't you asked them for child support?

Clearly they can be doctored in photoshop

you know, actual preverts check age less than these guys.

From what I've heard, they almost never actually check their ticket system, or if they do, they just wave it off and do nothing about it.

Reminds of a comment, first it's lolicons,next non-conest(Ntr) and then gore fans. It can probably continue to furry's if you've a got some hardcore republicans who believe that like animals or wanting to dress like them is degenarate or whatever they'll use to justify it.

I just wanna see a superpower collapse.

banning loli is the gateway to banning anything and everything on a whim.

Unfortunately, there's that stereotype of furries being socially inept again. You're comparing the quasi-moral, corporate incompetence of Patreon to this? Because Furaffinity thinks *maybe* having art around of a toddler-looking Pikachu blowing a fat load is a bad idea? (That's not hyperbole, I hate to say.) You know if you act like this, no one's gonna listen to you about something *actually* important right? You think you could spread the word about NCOSE's vile garbage, for example, if people know you as Mr. "I stuck up for the cub smut"? Pick your battles, and maybe you wouldn't have someone like me tempted to hit you with the "mason jar" remarks. Yes, I noticed that, and I know that stereotype too.

​@@ThecatThecat-hq1opI remember saying this on MAL & pre-GG ANN back in the day

I don't even know how one gets a vore fetish. I guess it's not realistic cannibalism since you can't swallow a person whole in real life, but just... How does that happen? Also, if they're specifically labeling it "vore", then it is a fetish. Like, depicting a character being eaten isn't weird on its own if it works in context, but giving it a dedicated label or drawing it too much makes it weird.

People who can't see the difference between an Anime Character and a real human really stretch their minds too much

The thing where you're taller than buildings is called "macro", referring to the term macroscopic.

the "it's not a fetish, there's no sex" thing is such a ridiculous cope that I've seen dozens of times.

Dude EVERYTHING is a fetish now, so that's a pointless argument.

I agree with you even tho I have sfw fetishes

Draw short characters getting eaten with a text stamp that says, "Show this to your coworkers and let's see how "SFW" it really is."

The entire animal crossing cast is also banned

How does dragoneer doesn't get tired of being stupid for more than a decade 😂

I hope a change can be made because this is ridiculous and is only causing harm

@@FartKnight_BattleAss I don’t know, I’d have to think being that stupid for that long would be exhausting.

Sfw or nsfw reasons

It's almost always some idiot on a power trip trying to dictate how things should be done. I'm not a user of furaffinity but some of the artists I like do use the site. These bogus policies only hurt artists in general which is never good.

There already discord about an 18 yo dating 17 yo, so it's not surprising to me

@@cloudycat5535 Damn I'm glad I don't see any of these in the servers I'm in

My ex was three years older than me, is that grooming?

@@pc_suffering6941 Only according to Twitter Freaks whose opinions don't matter

It doesn't help Dragoneer comms and favorites cub art himself.

@@higgsbonbon most sane discord mod

@@higgsbonbon It’s widely known around the furry community that Dragoneer is into cub art himself, but he’s no longer running the website iirc; he’s just on the sidelines helping since Frost Dragon LLC took over a while back.

But they think it's okay.

The best bit is that beastiality is illegal being a short adult is not. But oh no the short people, we can't bear to see such terrible things

And clean shaven thin males under 5'8 are shota/teens

@@pc_suffering6941 I find it hilarious and sad that people don't know the average height for males in the US is 5'9". Must think it's like 6'0" or something.

@@VoidHxnter I'm still below average and don't look mid 20s

I am actually 5'1 yes I am short adult

@@VoidHxnter Yeah, remember "if a woman s under 5'7" she's a child" meanwhile average height of women in the US 5'5" and average height of women world wide 5'2". Average height of men world wide is 5'7"

Literally in the same manner as AI. (AI can replicate as many voice samples from each character. But one of the voice actors is not used, so this fits the same example here.)

I play a lalafell on FFXIV. FEEL MY PAIN!!!

im sure not many people actually say that, but i've met people irl that have tried to use that argument. so, it isnt just anti's

just show them shinobu from monogatari, fits the bill of what they want, adult form

​@@Johnmaloney1962 wasn't there vampire in the bund who is 800 (and a loli)? I think that's where the 1000 year old loli is from.

The flamesac dragon too. even she is short but the age has too far from human

@@nobafan7515 isn’t that some round about hentai??? Cause pretty sure the same artist/author made a Vmmo hentai too

It's not as rare as you'd hope, unfortunately...

I could totally see a Saturday morning cartoon villain having the name "Vore" just because someone came up with it and didn't know better. Which, you know, definitely screwed up some kids in the early days... And probably even now.

"rules for thee, but not for me."

Height body shaming will never go away, I think

People who preach the loudest not to bodyshame have been doing it to men for a long time, I guess now it's time for lolis and by extension short women to be shamed. It's all BS, but it's the hypocrisy and the cognitive dissonance that get me the most.

Someone: Hey you should maybe hit the gym, it's not healthy to be that large. Twitter: How dare you bodyshame me! You're disgusting! I'm perfect and healthy! Also twitter: All short people are children and should be banned, it's so creepy and wrong. Oh you're dating a short person you must be a pedo.

No, see, what you're missing is that you can't change your height. This makes it acceptable to shame for reasons.

Mods are hard projecting, give it some time, bet we see those dipshits end up being outted as actual pedos with how hard they are about being antis

Rouge without being busty wouldn't be Rouge.

Meanwhile amy: ☠️☠️☠️☠️

Technically a lot of the sonic cast are children/ underaged. Then again, they're fictional, and I'm sure a lot are canonically adults, plus a lot of them have evidence for more than 18 years, so technically would be adults by that standard

common militant furry L

​@@hertzwave8001miltank

Your waifu is being deported because she's not a citizen. =3

The three horsemen of terrible people/companies

More like they’re the spawn of evil with the shut they do and say.

​@@txcgladiator4030 Everytime I see someone complain about stuff like this, the pink, white and blue flag is always on their profile.

this is true, also istg i see a shit take on twitter and theres like an 80% chance its written by some complete npc who puts 50 currently relevant emojis and flags also a lot of the same npcs type in the most obnoxious and unlikeable way possible and then call u a naz1 for calling them a shitter

One thing I'll always hate is people with my pronouns are ...,BLM and some other shit in they're bio. But that's a me problem.

Someone tried this nonsense at my high school once, and trash-talked a junior year guy who was dating a 4'11 senior girl, both of whom were my friends. The trash-talker almost got jumped by 3 or 4 people. Those two dorks were cute together, we all knew it, and we also knew there was nothing fishy going on.

@@Morrigi192 wow he is a lucky guy, you are good friends For me some of the people who told me that are family members so... even if it was half joking its not very funny

@@saintcitron She was both hilarious and put up with our silly bullshit in kind, so she was basically accepted as one of the bros, and you wanted the dude on your football team. Bit of a hothead, but far from a bad guy. We weren't about to put up with this and had to defend the girl from the occasional genuine creep as well, so we very much knew the difference between that and the lovebirds. Meanwhile, the women in my family were never much taller, so these false insinuations are an insult to my own family too.

Don't they already scream at people for "aging characters up" because the original character was a child? Not like every person who is now an adult was once a child or anything smh