UFC Fighters React to Medieval MMA feat. Elias Theodorou + Misha Cirkunov 

It's more awful that they're just swinging the swords around without any technique.

@@seanconnolly9277 Medieval combat treatises and writings don't cover actual field combat in armor. Those techniques are too predictable and will get you killed in a battle. Those were created mostly for judicial or unarmored duels, self defense, shows and entertainment.

Sean Connolly your objective is not to cut the opponent you just wanna hit him as hard as you can until he breaks down

@@shockwave6213 ... no you´ve jsut said the opposite of what those treatises was written for...

Sean Connolly swords can’t defeat armor shit tit

Or in Buhurt

Douggie Sharpe cmon, its absurd.

Well, neither it's a real armored fight, nor a fight of mma but in armor, in short, its two guys swinging around dull sword against each other without any kind of technics.

The GhostHero they do have technique. Even the professional fighters noticed it and commented on it.

Mixoris it's not a professional mma fighter that could recognize good sword fighting techniques. Those guy are not protecting themselves correctly, they don't do lock, or just anything that could make them win more easily without killing their opponents. It's just for entertaining the crowd. Their is no point to fight like this and without techniques like that other than to be a distraction

Well HEMA is a martial art, and that’s kind of the end word regarding it’s validity

Look up Battle of the Nations... its the world series of this sport and its always held in badass historical castles around europe

Battle of nations is something different, this was M1, kind of Russia's ONE FC, they have kick boxing matches, MMA matches and these knight fights sometimes on the same card lol.

There are multiple leagues and there are big tournaments held every year at castles all over Europe.

IMCF, massive festival, everything for the most part is on point for the time. I have not seen a siege but their is castles. Archers are not used the only danger they cause is to the bystanders lol. I’d like to see a siege battle, attackers have to push all the way up to the lords hall to conquer. Could even do catapults with foam rocks! I mean the wind might take em but would be awesome in my opinion. Ugh the possibilities, It truly is an epic sport!

That's what the SCA is for.

Well, you still haven’t. This is just idiots beating on each other in armor. Trying looking up HEMA (historic European martial arts).

@@kokofan50 HEMA still has a couple of gaps in it since it's based of old manuscripts and some of them are lost, effective but has gaps. These guys aren't stupid, they've trained in armor since a guy who hasn't trained in them would get exhausted immediately. Even if they didn't train hema, they still trained, plus this is more of a sport than an actual fight. Your point?

@@AVGyerra22 our knowledge may be imperfect, but we have more than enough to know that just beating on a man in armor with a sword is stupid. You know what, I don’t blame them either because if they were using the right weapons and techniques, guys would be getting killed. I, also, don’t mean to insult their athleticism. What they do isn’t easy, even if it’s not accurate.

How so when Elias showed enthusiasm right from the beginning? He said that he would love to try it out.

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​@Wendy Statebolikurac M1 definitely isn't staged fights with choreographed combat by stunt performance professionals, but it certainly isn't realistic medieval combat. Just some guys in armor with blunted swords trying to beat each other up. It's fake medieval combat, hence the frequent comparison to the fake wrestling combat in the WWE.

Nothing like WWE

Wait, did I miss the part where it was all fake like WWE? I didn't see any oiled up men in spandex underwear putting their face in each other's crotches either so I'm confused as to it's connection to WWE.

It's also way more fun to fight than watch lol

MrNumberone1608 yeah, flail has a chain

Weißer Wolf morning star is the double handed one right?

Weißer Wolf *i seem to be flailing around trying to explain*

savage banana mace has flanges, morning star has a spikeball, flail has either or on a chain

1) You're not supposed to stab, it has happened but since the sword are rounded so far nobody lost an eye. 2) Refs rarely need to jump in in 1v1 fights, just for the ground game which is basically 3 valid hits and done.

Ive been hit in un armored spots, hurts a lot especially the next day your pretty amped up so don't always feel it at the time. I did get hit once by an axe while reffing total accident ended up with a nice bruise on my thigh.

KiwiFighter ahhh just as I suspected. The refs need at least leather armor or perhaps special lighting to indicate a stoppage to keep them safe instead of putting their bodies in the way, accidents will happen and its a matter of time until a ref gets seriously hurt

make your armor better))

Usually referees use flag to control fighters.

THIS SHIT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HEMA. THESE GUYS HAVE NO TEHNIQUE.

THIS IS MMA WITH SWORDS.

This is often disregarded as hema but it's like comparing underground thug fighting with professional mma

New fans like the show-presenters wouldn't know that, though. So to steer them in the right direction, telling them to go take a look at HEMA is probably a safe bet.

This is HMB (historical medieval battle), I don't see any martial art aspect to it just guys swinging blunt weapons which is silly. HEMA is way different.

Ryan Bonner at the time of this fight he had almost double the fights

well, blows are counted.. so most likely he landed more blows with the sword in the zones where it mattered.

That's more than likely true as Elias did have a "learning disability" growing up, as they like to call it

Elias is in better shape tho

Yes he is in better shape cuz Misha's chin is plastic

dood hes just less energized. more mellow. but it doesnt show whos more intelligent

youtube, the home of challenge/comparison

Yeah maces, medieval clubs and the likes were made to bash late Medieval armor

what fucking weapons can cut through steel?

The Pig Scoff have you seen a claymore before?

have you even done research? No fucking swords can cut through plate armour

do you think you need to cut through a plate armour to kill people who wears it? most western swords doesn't rely on it's sharpness to kill western swords tend to have heavier weight their design to crush not to slice , a claymore and zweihander can crush both you and your plate armour. not just swords alot of weapons were developed to counter armours , a spiked flail and mace can puncture a plate armour , a pilum can penetrate both armour and it's wearer and your mum too. and only idiots would try to attack where the armour is , you attack the joints and collars.

Swords were a sede arm, not a war weapon. The main war weapons along the history were the spear and the bow, and the main defenses the shield and the armor. In medieval times, when chainmail and metal plated armors became abundant (for second time after the apex of the Roman Empre) the main way to defeat a knight were either wielding a mace/warhammer + shield, or a poleaxe/2hd warhammer/bec du corbin/lucern hammer (essentially iterations of the same weapon, all of those designed to deal massive damage to heavily armored knights. You can k.o. a knight using a sword with a lucky hit in the helmet, but using a sword or a zweihander vs a enemy wielding a warhammer or a poleaxe will put you in massive disadvantage. Also, blunt weapons are avoided in this competition for the same reason: they (to large extent) ignore the protection that the armor provides, making them lethal.

This is nothing like HEMA ...there is one other thing that is closer , they use like sensors to detect hits and fighters may use whatever weapon they want ( a safe replica) , 3 strikes and you are out .

they are blunt.

Yeah why not. In usa they could use prisoners with a death sentence. And let then choose to die by injection or by swordfight with other inmates in the deathrow. That would b pure cashflow.

Also they should recreate some sort of gladiator stadium, and let wild animals maul them. The winner gets life in jail as a gift, with a slightly better room/treatment (depending on the crime he committed). Somehow im just kiddin, but would be kinda entertaining in a sick way.

nah man it was an ad for the next mma event in m1

Trust me, they are not. No hating, but speaking from inside. Everybody in this sport realises how far it is from history, but they love the setup, the width of tactics spectre and the challenge

Thats not even HEMA bro .

Yeah, even if they were sharpened they wouldn't pierce through armor like movies do lol

@@joynelbonetdelgado4952 Idk bro swords can still stab you with armor

@@joynelbonetdelgado4952 You just to need find the soft place between the plates, it's matter of precision.

@@stefantheconqueror8710 Not in the armored parts ... even if they did tho , you would have a metal chain vest underneath or a gambeson .That's why blunt force weapons like hammers and maces or piercing weapons like spears and war pikes were used .