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I don't think it's a bad bargain, with FF he made more money he could spend in his lifetime. After FF he can go the Robert Pattinson route of doing indie stuff outside his circle, for nothing or little money, or even produce his own stuff. I don't think it's over for him, it only is if he insists in going for hard men doing hard stuff type films.
"And yes, before you ask - this is, unequivocally, a story about family" *loud applause, women cheering, "ladies and gentlemen: we got him", Chuck Norris endorcing smile*
@JordonBeal the author of the comment did in fact probably mean "endorsing". The context was that of a "Chuck Norris endorsing smile". Hope that helps!
I’m actually shocked every time I watch The Iron Giant to learn Diesel provided the voice of that character. Maybe it was Brad Bird’s direction or the fact he was genuinely at a creative stage in his career, but Diesel gave the character life, a heart, feelings, emotions and a soul from a few moans, groans and the odd sentence. That’s how I’ll always think of him.
even tho riddick is a fictional assassin who descended from an ancient race of superhumans, he's more of a believable person than dominic toretto. he has so many layers esp after the end of chronicles and riddick (2013)
He was so good as riddick and he can do a fourth one on it now more than ever. Vin has always been talented and handsome in my eyes he just doesn't take himself seriously enough, and the director also draws out that seriousness in him, too.
I'd love it if Vinny had a later resurgence like Sandler has. Apparently, the next FF is the last, so maybe he'd be more open to stuff like this again.
he's been TRYING to do other stuff, last i heard. if i remember correctly, he REALLY wanted to play Hannibal Barca for many years. but hey, let's not grieve for what is apparently one of hte biggest D&D geeks in Hollywood getting to live the dream.
Man, that was maybe the most wonderful performance he's ever had. Now he's just a muscled bruiser caricature these days, but the man has depth and above all else earnestness.
Sadly that's a problem with a lot of good actors where they find a role there good at and then stop trying and play that one role for the rest of their lives.
@@sabbathjackalit's what gets them the big-money roles. I blame the majority of movie goers who keeps paying for stupid shit like the fast and the furious franchise. actors like Vin Diesel are just making business decisions where they would make more money. Not everyone is a Daniel-Day Lewis type who values the quality of the work over the $$$$$$$
Even the muscle bruiser can have depth though. His FF character is cardboard compared to say... Riddick. Riddick was an infinitely more interesting character that followed the basic muscle bruiser stereotype. So clearly even there he can put a lot of depth into his character
Sidney Lumet’s name needs to be mentioned more often when discussing all-time great directors. Like Scorsese, he was able to seamlessly adapt from generation to generation, debuting in Hollywood’s “golden age” with 12 Angry Men, giving us New Hollywood classics in the form of Dog Day Afternoon and Network, then ending his career five decades after it began with the more obscure yet criminally underrated Before the Devil Knows You’re Dead
Failsafe is a very underrated movie in his filmography. One of the most terrifying movies you'll ever see and has only gotten scarier as time passes. Plus henry fonda as the president is the best/most obvious casting of all time.
His best acting was in 'A Man Apart' but 'Find Me Guilty,' 'Knockaround Guys' and 'Boiler Room' are all great showcases for how Diesel could've made a great actor if he'd chosen to go that route instead of becoming a movie star.
Wut? How is being in any of those movies, not also being a movie star?!? Also, Boiler Room came out the same year as Pitch Black and Knockaround Guys came out in 2001, after Fast and the Furious so he was already a "movie star"...the other movies came out well after that.
Vin is a bit like Stallone. Here he's pulling a "Rocky", performance-wise , and then he just gave into action stuff. I'm sure there will be a director who'll give him yet another hefty dramatic role, eventually.
I love this film and have been singing it's praises since it came out. This is always what I bring up when people say that Vin Diesel can't act. He *can*, he just doesn't need to because it's much more lucrative to play the same guy over and over.
Danny, I have to say, your work has quickly become a collection of my favorite film esseys to come out recently. So many of film essayist have become these obnoxious, loud, perpetually irritated about something personalities chasing what is trendy, what is hip to hate on in the moment. Their thumbnails are flashy and overdone, the titles are clickbait-y and sometimes in conflict with what the video is about. And your work has not the smallest trace of that. It is genuine and filled with obvious passion and endless curiousty for the craft of filmmaking. You videos are focused and only ever concerned with the single point they are trying to make - no more, no less. Really, what your channel reminds me the most is another incredible film essey channel that has long since been closed down. Every Frame A Painting. The fascination and love for cinema I hear in your voice is the same that I used to hear in the voice of Tony Zhou and the words of Taylor Ramos. I hope to see the same recognition given to you in time. Cheers, my friend, have a good one!
Danny is certainly obnoxious, his thumbnails are just screenshots of movies, and his titles are not even a full sentence. His work is completely ingenuine. He has been forced to edit his videos on multiple occasions because of criticisms and he never acknowledges doing so. His videos almost never have any kind of point, thats why the titles are so incredibly vague. He's really awful and should delete his channel.
This was so heartwarming. You really brought out the love for movie making that Diesel has, a love he developed by reading Lumet’s book and then demonstrated while working for him. What a story. And, incidentally, it’s a good movie! What more could I ask for? Thanks as always for the work you do. These little insights make me a better filmgoer.
12 Angry Men is the best courtroom drama ever because the movie focuses solely on the jury deliberations in a confined set. The antics, the stick, the circus which is the courtroom is out. As for a good courtroom movie, see My Cousin Vinny which turns those antics to a source of strength.
I've seen this movie maybe 10-11 years ago and its biggest impact in my life was whenever Vin Diesel makes another uninspired action blockbuster, I think about this movie and wish that he did actual acting once more, but accept that he probably won't.
I remember watching this movie ages ago on DVD and was so pleasantly surprised by how solid it was. It endeared me to Vin to this day, no matter how many weird movies he makes 😂
"Before the devil knows you´re dead" is another good one Lumet did in his last years, actually his last two movies was theese two. After a long period of mediocre to bad films, he went out in a bang... just like he started.
Genuinely one of the best parts of my weekends! I'm not really a huge movie watcher myself, but I do love seeing people point out layers and nuances that I wouldn't know to look for, so I love this channel. :)
People forget he was Groot and the Iron Giant. He was damn good in Pitch Black. I think he was done with The Fast and The Furious after the first one. But who would turn down millions of dollars and a steady acting gig?
I saw his indie film in one of my film classes. We giggled when we heard what we were watching, a few minutes, we sure were humbled. He really does have a lot of talent and I would really like to see him get more opportunities to shine. Maybe in his later years. Thanks for introducing to this movie, I am very interested in watching.
Danny Boyd, a man with such an incredible and unimaginable taste for wonderful filmmaking and storytelling that he's woven my appreciation for it as well as my ability to create. Thank you for inspiring me
vin deez will go down as a lover of cinema and a man that is just tryna push the medium forward mark my words.. in the next ten years after they cant make anymore fast movies he is gonna go in on smaller weirder character pieces that will confuse the masses but will make him a legend.. save this comment
Fantastic work! Please keep these videos coming! I learn something new with everyone. Thank you so much for the hard work you do in putting these together.
I didn't realize I'm actually rather fond of Vin Diesel's acting until I recently re-watched the first couple F&F movies, and saw Perfect Dark for the first time. I thoroughly enjoyed all of them. It was refreshing to go back and watch some older, better quality cinema I had been sleeping on for years. I'll definitely be giving this a watch.
I went and watched this after seeing this video, and it was an incredible movie. So well done, so many great performances. Thank you for highlighting it.
I'm not a Vin Diesel fan, so I don't know why I watched this film one night. I was surprised at how much I enjoyed it, and how well Diesel pulled off the role of Jackie. I haven't watched it since that one time, but now I think I'm going to give it a second viewing.
It is kind of sad because when this movie came out he had already been in XXX, The Fast and the Furious, and The Chronicles of Riddick, which showed off his action chops, but I feel like this caused him to get stuck in it and were his most successful movies at the time where he was the lead whereas Find Me Guilty failed at the box office, so he probably thought there was no way out. If he only fought back a bit and went for the occasional drama or comedy roles, we would be remembering him in a different light, as the guy who is good at acting but does action movies, shit who knows he might have had an Oscar nom if he went down this path. Kind of like Tom Cruise in a sense but not as prominent.
Find Me Guilty is one of those movies that has always stuck with me. I only saw it once when I stayed home sick in high school, but I still remember every beat and every character of the film. It really is a very good film.
I find this channel continuously interesting and thought provoking. Thanks, Danny, for the insight and for raising the awareness of some little-known gems.
I randomly came up on a copy of this movie on dvd about 20 or so years ago. Didn’t think I’d like it on first watch and fell in love. I think it’s one of his best roles
when the judge asked if he knew what 'per se' means, I was reminded of another movie, with Tony Danza. It has a similar arc, where a small-time hood gets railroaded for a robbery, studies law in prison, gets a mail-order diploma, and represents himself during his appeal. It was also a movie that helped Danza move away from his 'Who's the Boss?' typecasting.
I remember getting a pirated CD of this movie from somewhere, here in India. And I still remember most of its scenes and dialogues. But until I saw this video, I never thought about the movie before at all.
I kind of want to watch this movie. As someone who always loved Vin already(because he seems to genuinely love the people he works with and treats them like family). But this is such a different Vin I'm super sold.
_Find Me Guilty_ has got to be Vin Diesel's greatest performance, and easily one of Sidney Lumet's most underrated works. Well worth a watch. It's also worth noting that nothing said in the actual courtroom scenes was made up, as they thought the actual transcripts were so over-the-top that not only should they use them, but they needed to let us know those words were literally what they said in real life, otherwise no one would believe them.
This is the best channel on RU-vid. Also i hope Vin has a career resurgence. Its just going to be hard when no matter what he acts in "family" memes will follow.
I honestly had no idea that Vin had this background of movies, nor that the movie "Find me Guilty" even existed. Thank you for bringing it to my attention, I will most definitely follow your recommendation and give it a watch!
Always enjoyed this one, had a lot of heart, a great cast and the first time I saw Dinklage in a movie. Started following Vin Diesel around Boiler Room and Pitch Black era of the early 2000s. Knockaround Guys is another smaller, but good B action flick from that era. That early career was really solid, but family comes first.
The joy of meeting the people who inspired you and the passion for making the movie really does seep through to the audience in a hundred different ways, even if you can pin point each one. Feels like there's not a whole lot of movies like that anymore... Just can just feel that it was another money-grab.
Never heard of it, but it looks awesome. Like one of those rarer 90's gems that a lot of folk haven't heard of but accidentally stumble onto someday...
i nevert considered this before but mutch like you my experience of this character mirros my experience of vin disel as an actor i instantly loved him and only grew to love him more
This is such a great channel! So glad I found a fellow cinephile who appreciates the art like I (and others) do! I can’t believe I haven’t watched this movie yet! Subbed!
dude was really good at the early parts of his careeer. definitely has charisma and a very distinct voice and presence. he was like henry cavill even, big buff dude who was a nerd at heart. wish he'd do small indie movies from time to time.
Honestly that scene of Vin Diesel being shot by the sniper in Saving Private Ryan and the following scene handing his note to the other soldier is like burned into my head. Good shit. Easy to forget its the fast car guy.
I remember renting this and watching it with my mom. We were completely surprised by Vin Deisel. It's too bad how he turned out with the Fast and Furious franchise and all the drama that came with it. It's great he's so passionate about the project, but it's probably more about sustainability now more than taking chances.
I saw this movie for the first time months back on streaming. And it was surprising to see Vin Diesel not only with hair, but he was putting some good effort into Find Me Guilty. It's one of my favorite roles of his, and that's among the number of action roles he's been defaulted to. Another comparable one is what Jason Statham did in Spy with his character.
"A Man Apart" is still one of his best underrated work. Unfortunate he typecasted his own self, bc hes one of those actors who CAN act...when he wants to.
I just watched the film. Surprised I had not seen it before, it is quite good. Vin is a fine actor, hopefully we see more of that before he hangs it up.
