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On the Road today, Headed to Maryland and the Cabin in West Virginia to Pick some things up, Check Trail Cams, and Make plans for the Shower House and Wood Stove #cabin #wildwonderfulwv
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@danielwilliams9625
@danielwilliams9625 Год назад
I would suggest having the hallway to the bath house outside the back door. Think of it as a covered breezeway over the back door. This will allow the stove to be in the back half of the cabin and also not sacrifice any of your living space in the front half of the house. It would take up a little bit of the patio but you can always make the patio larger when you pour the slab for the bath house.
@TheFirewoodHut
@TheFirewoodHut Год назад
Just what I was thinking, Daniel. Agree with everything you mentioned!!!! Mike needs to seriously consider your advice
@petergrant9259
@petergrant9259 Год назад
That works the best... and tons of space outdoors to expand the patio... and will look better pulling into the lot.
@garypaquin3465
@garypaquin3465 Год назад
I agree also. Mike is planning on removing the back door so if you can picture my thoughts you walk out the back door, turn left to the bath house or continue straight out the new back door, that way nothing space wise would need to be sacrificed. Just my 2 cents.
@jamesiversen
@jamesiversen Год назад
I think I recall Melissa ixnayed that idea as she didn’t want to go outside to get to the shower house. However, I’d make the same suggestion but make the breezeway enclosed (which might be what Daniel was thinking as well). Remove the existing back door and reuse it on the side or end of the exterior hallway to access the patio. Reuse the door of the shower house on the opposite side of the hallway facing the front to access it from that side when working outside. Two reasons Mike and Melissa might want to consider this option rather than moving the shower house closer to the front as Mike mentioned: 1. They won’t lose the wall space in the front room. This is prime real estate for a sofa or other furniture in such a compact footprint. 2. They won’t look out at the roof of the shower house from their loft bedroom. I also thought they were planning to put a small kitchenette area in that area near the back door; this would leave some room for that and put the woodstove in a convenient spot to use the top to cook (or boil water for coffee/tea), if they so choose to do so. Just something to consider, Mike and Melissa!
@johnlamb2333
@johnlamb2333 Год назад
I thought the same thing.
@thewordmastr
@thewordmastr Год назад
Front left corner on an angle for the stove. Perfect place and it will be tucked away giving you more room in your floor plan.
@JEANEREANO
@JEANEREANO Год назад
And you'll be able to enjoy the fire from the whole down stairs and sit around it on those rainy & snowy days.
@jimryan3578
@jimryan3578 Год назад
and have covered area for firewood on front porch, close to stove
@flyovernews22
@flyovernews22 Год назад
Agree
@WillyHope
@WillyHope Год назад
Agree, you got a glass on the door for a reason. It you put it towards the back don’t bother with glass.
@johnturner7164
@johnturner7164 Год назад
Putting it in the front corner means you will not be walking near a hot stove to get out the back door.
@petertomczak5637
@petertomczak5637 Год назад
Mike, what if you put the shower house on the right rear of the cabin. Just in front of the stairs you put the hallway going out. That way you can either go upstairs or the hallway to the shower house. That way that whole left side is free to put the wood stove anywhere on the left side of the cabin.
@randycooke7168
@randycooke7168 Год назад
Dear Mike and Mel . As a wood heat technician of 40 years my suggestion is the area you didn’t want . I say this because I know your installers are going to say it as well ,that front corner to the left of the door when you walk in is the best location and because you need to box it in it’s best to put it in the corner , not only will it be visible from almost all areas by putting the vent straight out the stove and through the lower level to the upper you will have placed the appliance for the most efficient heating of the space , it’s a small stove , one I’ve installed many times . It’s always best to go vertical . Whatever you decide it’ll work but I think that front corner on the left when you enter is the best location for heating the overall space.
@bennym1956
@bennym1956 Год назад
He's the expert.....
@jamesdickman8315
@jamesdickman8315 Год назад
I agree , also having a wood box neer the door would be handy.
@matthewdomeno7267
@matthewdomeno7267 Год назад
Yep, that’s the spot.
@ervintaylor6508
@ervintaylor6508 Год назад
For sure completely agree left of the front door is the spot Mike
@lcee6592
@lcee6592 Год назад
Yes, was thinking same. Plus, someday, little grandkids will be there and that location keeps it away from the stairs and main pathways.
@FFL-vg9ro
@FFL-vg9ro Год назад
Better layout is the shower house on the right, not the left, with the hallway at the bottom of the stairs. Easier access for night time trips to the bathroom, and you are not losing wall space with a hallway breaking up the main living area.
@flyovernews22
@flyovernews22 Год назад
Agree
@jonathankeith2547
@jonathankeith2547 Год назад
I thought the same think, make the window a door into the passage, and the passage would only need to be long enough to accommodate the swing of the door.
@jmalone2758
@jmalone2758 Год назад
This is in WV, we usually whizz outside. Kinda like a coyote marking his territory, keeps most all other animals away. Key thing it not go at the same spot all the time lol
@jonathankeith2547
@jonathankeith2547 Год назад
@@jmalone2758 yep, same here in Australia, my wife and I only use the indoor facilities when a seated stance is required for the particular task. We have a saying “if you can’t do it off the veranda, or in your back yard without the neighbors seeing, then your neighbors are to close.” My neighbors are kilometers away
@larrystoner8824
@larrystoner8824 Год назад
Mike, from day one I thought you were going to attach the hallway to the rear of the cabin at the rear door. Then move the door into the hallway. I was surprised when you talked about cutting into the cabin wall.
@johngilbert1047
@johngilbert1047 Год назад
I know you said you didn’t want the stove in the front corner, but that’s what makes the most sense to me. That puts the shower house and hallway in the original place and the stove is a focal point in the front corner. What would be the reason not to? Thanks for sharing your adventures with us.
@meg-a-bytes
@meg-a-bytes Год назад
I agree. This is a cabin in the woods. It should have a wood stove as a focal point at night when you're relaxing by the fire and not stuck in the back of the cabin.
@tonyirving7097
@tonyirving7097 Год назад
Hi Mike My 2 aud cents worth.. My thoughts would be to shift the shower room to other side like many have mentioned before. Move it 10 feet away from the cabin and make the hall way 10ft long by 6 feet wide. This could be your main entrance. Reason being you will be doing outdoor activities here in winter and summer.. Have a door to outside in it then the hallway could become a boot locker hooks for coats. and if you need to have a shower prior to entering the main living space you can. Also as mentioned people can come down the stairs and go to the shower and toilet without going thru the main living area. If you do not move it to the right and leave it left side still consider an entrance from outside for the rainy and snowy days.
@48VAC
@48VAC Год назад
Architecturally, I think it would look better if is was to come off the rear side of the house. I still think it worth looking at having the hall way out the back door with small vestibule so you don't eliminate already limited wall space. There won't be much room for any seating if you take up more space for another door. Just my thoughts, but I know you have spent a lot of time on it. Great spot for a cabin
@flyovernews22
@flyovernews22 Год назад
Agree
@tedbryer2512
@tedbryer2512 Год назад
@@flyovernews22 Exactly
@coolwheelz5190
@coolwheelz5190 Год назад
I know you're focused on having the bath house on the left side of the cabin, but I'd put it on the right. You could have the hallway just before the window that goes up the stairs or better yet, take that window out, move it to the right and put the hallway where the window is located. Two advantages. It gives you more options for the floor plan you want and still leaves you with plenty of space as you walk in the front door and wall space. Also, when you come down the stairs, you turn left to go to the shower house and as you come in, it's a short walk and you go right. Seems to me to be the least disruptive place to put it for the flow in the cabin. Good luck in your decision!
@jamesiversen
@jamesiversen Год назад
This is a good suggestion to consider as well. Worth exploring, I’d say!
@thomash6496
@thomash6496 Год назад
that's what I was thinking as well. Put the hallway where the window is in front of stairs and cut new window in between hallway and front door. The place looks great Mike, aways enjoy a video from your new place.
@UKCG_2
@UKCG_2 Год назад
Agreed, and then I’d place the stove in the front left corner, that way you don’t have to avoid it when headed out the back door.
@BG-yi1rj
@BG-yi1rj Год назад
I was thinking the same thing. Move window closer to the front and put door to shower house where the window was.
@sameaston1301
@sameaston1301 Год назад
I definitely agree with this idea. Good thinking 👍
@johngiampapa
@johngiampapa 11 месяцев назад
I’d keep your original hall location to the shower house- but, relocate the rear patio door into the shower house hall. Then where the original location of the patio door becomes a nice nook for the stove. Love the cabin and property!!
@iramatheny4367
@iramatheny4367 Год назад
Move the shower room back towards the patio. Use existing doorway to enter the hall Add outside hall way and new exterior [to patio] patio door. Frees up the wall space for the stove and keeps way space for furniture.
@craigsudman4556
@craigsudman4556 Год назад
Whenever I need to plan a build and am thinking of placing objects in a space, I like to make a scale drawing. Then I make a scale drawing of the object that I want to place in the available space and cut the outline so that I can move the object around in the space available. I remember to include all the clearance requirements for the object to be placed. In your case I would take it one step further to include a cut out outline of the shower house. That way you can rotate the shower house any which way you want, move it here or there, and get a better idea of how it will look and function in the space that you finally decide to place it. Great video Mike thumbs up.
@davidmorse8432
@davidmorse8432 Год назад
That is a good recommendation. Pencil marks are easy to move.
@craigsudman4556
@craigsudman4556 Год назад
@@davidmorse8432 Learned to do that when I was designing aircraft instrumentation. Now as I design tools & fix stuff around the house, I still fall back on a great tool CAD (Cardboard Aided Design) and remember the most important advice: KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid). Good stuff all around.
@davidmorse8432
@davidmorse8432 Год назад
@@craigsudman4556 👍
@jacklabloom635
@jacklabloom635 Год назад
I think you should place the hallway opening on the right side of the cabin right next to the stairway. You won’t need any door at the hallway opening, so a hallway entrance there does not negatively impact the stairs. You already have a door on the bathhouse, and the offset on the bathhouse door works better for that side of the cabin. The bathhouse should be nearer the rear of the cabin instead of toward the front of the cabin. I think you will find that option gives you the best utilization of interior space. Since you can’t place any furniture next to a stairway anyway, that space is ideally suited for a non-intrusive opening to another part of the house. You only need a 32 inch hallway opening near the stairway, but then the exterior hallway can be much wider passed the doorway to allow for closet storage space toward the rear of of the cabin. Your current door offset on the bathhouse works perfectly for this option. Of course the opening could 36 inches as well. Even a 36 inch door only has a maximum of 34 inch clearance after subtracting 1.5 inch of door thickness plus 1/2 inch of hinge clearance. Draw it all out on paper and I think you will see that it makes sense to locate the bathhouse hallway entrance on the right side near the stairs. I’ve done several remodels, and drawing out all the options on paper and considering the pluses and minuses, beforehand, is the best way to make the best decision on placement of hallways, doors, furniture, wood stoves, etc. As far as the stovepipe, straight up through the roof gives you the best draw on a wood stove. Much stronger mounting options and a lot easier to clean too. Draw that out as well to make sure placing the stove near the back of the cabin does not interfere with the pathway to the rear door. I hope this helps and good luck with all of it.
@jamesiversen
@jamesiversen Год назад
I like the idea of adding a hall closet area! Somewhere out of the way to put coats and boots during hunting season.
@kevinschmidt2532
@kevinschmidt2532 Год назад
My sediments exactly. I saw that location when the camera panned across the room. Looks like the stair rail could be cut back a bit to make more room for the opening.
@nuclearcharlie6867
@nuclearcharlie6867 Год назад
Mike I would place the bath/utility well room off the other side of the cabin... Next to to the stair case ... If you consider the overall floorplan it would flow more smoothly and not disrupt your interior living space. You need that corner for couch seating ... A great tool is to cut out scaled cardboard shapes marked with the features Moving the square around in the kitchen table you can see and consider every possibility and dismiss the obvious... Also all the family can participate At the kitchen table and discuss options But right rear of the building adjacent to the staircase is your best Option.
@nuclearcharlie6867
@nuclearcharlie6867 Год назад
Review video at 0:30 and see floor in front of stair case . The floor space at the bottom of staircase now serve s double usefulness.
@GuzzyMan
@GuzzyMan Год назад
Hey Mike, have you consider removing the small window and open it up and making that your entrance to the hallway to the bathroom house? To me that solves a couple of issues and allows space for your wood stove. You can even repurpose the window and install it in the hallway to the bathroom house letting light into it.
@terrymunn779
@terrymunn779 Год назад
Hey Mike, that window on the main floor would be pointless with the shower house 4' out side. Why not remove the window and put your hallway there? Just a thought... nice spot there.
@philh82
@philh82 Год назад
Hi Mike! love your videos. If it were me, I would put the shower house on the other side of the building and Lose the window next to the steps and make that your hallway going to the shower house. That leaves the whole other wall open for whatever. You're right! I was thinking outside the box when I looked at the layout. Maybe talk to the builder of that little showe And flip flop walls for the door. Then the hallway would be in the middle of the building, and it would look more uniform from the front with that dormer sticking out. just my opinion. I mean, you already have a hole cut in that other wall. On the other side where the window is utilize it for a hallway. Thanks for your videos with you and your family. Love your content, keep up the great work.
@ascott6804
@ascott6804 Год назад
As you walk in, use the window on the right as the hallway to the bathhouse? No obstruction of view to the drive. Where the stairs are is the only unusable section of wall. That building would take up most of that space you wouldn't use anyway. Looks so neat anyway you do it!!
@tedbryer2512
@tedbryer2512 Год назад
What I would do is use the back door as the hallway - that would put the shower house on the rear of the pad and give you tons of room for your wood stove . LOVE THE PROPERTY!!
@markfisher8206
@markfisher8206 Год назад
Just another thought Mike. Three steps up to the landing ,turn right ,three steps down and you are in the shower room. Picks up loads of interior space and doesn’t inhibit access to your back patio. I know you don’t want anything on that side of the build but the space you pick up inside might be worth it!
@noeltremblay5343
@noeltremblay5343 Год назад
Yes put the lower steps against the wall and recuperate lots of space and very little work.
@berniejanssen2863
@berniejanssen2863 Год назад
Mike, Might be a good idea to close off the ends of the bottom 4 x4 's to keep the animals out from underneath of the cabin. Gives the squirrels a place to hide and chew their way thru the floor. Had a camp in tionesta pa and they would chew thru the walls and floor.
@michaelboudreau1441
@michaelboudreau1441 Год назад
My thoughts would be to put the bath house, in y'alls original place. Take the doors off from each building. Build a hallway, between the two buildings, and then in between the two buildings, put an exit door to the patio, in the hallway. This would result in a lot less cutting, into the main cabin.
@boutdoors8234
@boutdoors8234 Год назад
Propane direct vent fireplace. Take out the side window and build a bump out to house the fireplace so that you don’t take up any floor space. You can also use the propane to run a refrigerator. Just a thought. Another benefit of it would be thermostatically controlled. You will have to find one with a standing pilot or battery powered ignition. Also no flue pipe to worry about, just a small bonnet on the sidewall
@frijoli9579
@frijoli9579 Год назад
Seems odd to me to put the stove in the back part of the cabin. I would put it in the corner to the left of the entrance door. Gives nice visibility . I would not put grates in the floor unless you are going to put individual rooms upstairs. You will get enough heat going up the stairs. Really hard to say without seeing the rest of the floor plan. I Love your videos! Also, is Eva going to do a build video of the "party pallet"?
@mgn136
@mgn136 Год назад
I agree with the stove in the corner to left as you enter the cabin. That will heat the upstairs and will allow for a furniture arrangement. It is also a very attractive view when you enter the house. Run the stove pipe out the wall, then bend toward the back of the house and then up next to the second floor. The angles can be gradual turns so the flow is smooth. Also, sending the hallway out the back may leave more room for kitchen set up and seating. Good luck with it.
@9stag164
@9stag164 Год назад
I definitely agree there will be no need for grates in the floor.
@robertwazniak9495
@robertwazniak9495 Год назад
Everybody is telling you where to put everything, I'll give you some advice too. Soething i was taught in school 50 years ago that i still use today. Draw the cabin and your bath house to scale and draw everything you plan to put into it on cutouts to the same scale. If anything has extra space (like door swings or access points and stove clearances) add those but mark them as such. It is a lot easier to sit down with Melissa and move little paper squares around to position everything just right. Once you get the interior done, the add-on will figure itself out. This forces you to analyze each singe step along the way in order of importance. Sometimes, the excitement of planning and building causes minor oversights to bcome a big issue a couple of steps later. I believe you are an analytical person and would want to know what will work before going too far. You have your vision for the cabin, this way you can be reasonably sure you can shoehorn in everything you two need in the cabin. Have fun with the journey and thanks for taking us along.
@BAJones-ev2im
@BAJones-ev2im Год назад
Have the bath house out the back... allow at the very least a 4 foot allowance, including the back exit. This way, some of your back sitting area is protected from above, your back door, patio area protected from preditors etc. The stove will jut out from the wall, so please, in locating it, don't let that stove obstruct a possible emergency exit either out the front or back. Am living up here in Canada, wish we could find a cabin just like you have there, however 4-6 feet wider, so that we'd have more 'clearance for the stove... as up here in Eastern Ontario, are need for a stove for heat lasts several weeks longer than yours. We'd like people to advise us, as to who is making cabins like yours. Maybe your viewers can assist. We love your shows!
@HallnoutMhall
@HallnoutMhall Год назад
Morning Morgans and friends
@davidmorse8432
@davidmorse8432 Год назад
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@jlooseround
@jlooseround Год назад
Here is another suggestion if you are open for it. If possible, move the window closer to the front left corner of the house and put the hall for the shower shed where the current window is.
@jimbottrill3583
@jimbottrill3583 Год назад
If you go through the wall you can put a clean out at the bottom to make it easier for cleaning the chimney and keep the mess outside.
@richardbrowne1679
@richardbrowne1679 Год назад
Good Morning Morgan Family 🌞- Have a Great and Blessed Day 🤠. The good thing about having external stovepipe is when you clean the pipe most of the creosote comes out the bottom. So a lot of the mess is outside and if you ever have a chimney fire- it’s outside. To protect the stovepipe from sliding snow, you can put a snow stop or divider on the roof.
@unionbellranch
@unionbellranch Год назад
Good morning, Mike. Keep in mind snow shed as you will want to be closer to the peak if you go through the roof. Trust me, the pipe will likely snap if you don’t. I would reccomend not going through roof and going through side wall and staying away from roof and maintaining a gap between facia with strong brackets. Good luck with your project!!
@IanJames56
@IanJames56 Год назад
Good choice to use that 10x12 shack as your shower area, you can also put a small stacked washer and dryer in there, and it will really make the Cabin look great 👍🏼 maybe add a couple high efficiency solar panels if it has a southern exposure! 4 400 watt panels is all you would need… and the inverter and batteries would fit great on the wall in the shack…
@joecahill8165
@joecahill8165 Год назад
Hey Mike, replace the back door with a window, back of cabin becomes kitchenette. Hallway to bath house… back door in the hallway. Hallway becomes mud room between bathroom and main cabin.
@2004JKJK
@2004JKJK Год назад
Run the hallway where the window is. Repurpose the window in the hallway and that gives you equal space on each side of the hallway to work with.
@chuckferrara9084
@chuckferrara9084 Год назад
Mike, all things considered space wise maybe use the existing back door to the new hallway and place the door back in the hallway it appears you're not considering furniture placement, I suggest putting the stove diagonally in the front corner to the left of the door as you enter.
@chrisbarr1359
@chrisbarr1359 Год назад
I would figure out room lay out & furniture placement before committing to placement of the stove. Are you having a living room arrangement right inside the front door? If so, installing it in the front corner on the other side would make a nice focal point for the living room.
@PaulyD0859
@PaulyD0859 Год назад
I'd put the new shed near where it was originally planned and use the door for access to the patio, put a full bath next to the stairs where the current back door is and use the addition for the kitchen/dining area.
@BirdYoumans
@BirdYoumans Год назад
My first thought was to put it up front on the left off the front porch. Access would be thru the front door which already exists, no door would have to be cut from inside, and you'd already have cover for when it rains from the upper porch floor. But then in the comments, I see several suggestions for it being on the right side and the doorway be cut at the foot of the stairs. I think either would be the less disruptive to the flow of your floor plan than putting it rear left with yet another door. You could come out the back door, but if you build a roof to cover you when it rains, I'm not sure that would be my first choice since in would somewhat mess with the "serenity" of the view in the back. Another way to deal with it on the back tho would be to bump out the entire back side about 8' or so with a simple slanted roof and pour the back porch out further. It could either be built like a porch across the back or you could enclose it. The view would not be compromised, you would have a covered walk way not to mention a lot of new space that could be storage or whatever, especially if you enclose it. That might not even be as complicated as cutting doors in the building and moving windows etc. Might cost a bit more though. As I think about it, that might be my first choice because of the extra space it would provide. It's not like you don't have plenty of pine to build it with lol! For that matter, you could probably put the bath in half of the bump out and not even have to have a bump out building, it would in essence just be an extension to the back of the building. Just put another door straight behind the present door that way you would access the porch thru the storage room side and you could then build a wall that would allow the bath to be on the right side with privacy since you would not have to access the porch thru it. Once you mill the lumber, it would not take long at all to build. You would only have 3 exterior walls to build since the cabin is the 4th wall. If done right it would probably look quite good that way. But I know you must be enjoying the dreaming process of how and what to do. What a great adventure!
@BobCaseyAerial
@BobCaseyAerial Год назад
Walk in the front door put stove to the left corner. Caddy corner. Leaves more room in the cabin.
@JSRiggs-tr1gl
@JSRiggs-tr1gl Год назад
The way the building is laid out the best place for the stove is the right front corner.
@briancarter4408
@briancarter4408 Год назад
Hi Mike, I suggest leaving the shower house in the original position and put the stove (diagonally pointing to the centre of the room) in the front left corner of the downstairs room. Plenty of room there!
@stephengehm2634
@stephengehm2634 Год назад
In this video you are discussing where to put the Wood Stove, and also where you are going to place the hallway to the Shower Room. I would suggest that instead of adding a new opening for the hallway inside the cabin, that instead you use the existing back door. Connect the hallway to this door, and then reposition the backdoor to the outside of this new corridor. This will give you more options on where to place the stove as well as increase your available wall space inside the cabin.
@philt1658
@philt1658 Год назад
Stove pipe on the outside wall avoids a roof penetration, takes up less interior space, and is easier to clean from the ground.
@arthurmessineo9179
@arthurmessineo9179 Год назад
Mike, how about putting the door to the shower house at the bottom of the stairs. This way someone sleeping upstairs just Hass to come down the stair and make a left into the shower house/bathroom.
@JohnWilson-ql8ks
@JohnWilson-ql8ks Год назад
As i told you a long time ago, if it were me i would take out that window and put the hallway their. easy as all get out and then you don't have to put another big hole in the side. and loose structure stably..
@randtgorman
@randtgorman Год назад
Decisions, Decisions, Decisions. Whatever you guys decide, I am here for it. Love Love the cabin and everything your doing. My note book pile is just getting bigger and bigger. Have a blessed day.
@russellbowman8051
@russellbowman8051 Год назад
Sweet Nice Road Trip!! And Got A Couple Of Things Accomplished In The Mean Time!! Keep Smiling On!! 😄👍👊❤️
@user-hl8tq8uw2b
@user-hl8tq8uw2b Год назад
I would put the shower house hallway at the bottom of the stairway. People arent crossing the main living area on the way to and from the shower house.
@davecrable1356
@davecrable1356 Год назад
I recommend coming out through the wall about six feet off the ground with triple wall pipe. On the outside, you would have your thimble/cleanout which would make your flue cleaning very simple and keep most of the mess outside. That's how I have mine setup.
@CFD4c72
@CFD4c72 Год назад
Put the bath house to the right side and have the hallway door go out by the bottom of the stairs. Move that window if need be. Will give you a lot more room on the left side of the cabin inside.
@gasmancg
@gasmancg Год назад
Maybe think about an 8’ wide hallway. Then you could offset it at the back like you originally wanted and put the stove just inside against the back wall. This would allow a lot more inside space plus being an additional space instead of just a hallway. Offset the shower house by say 10’. An extra 8’x10’ would make nice storage and closet space down stairs.
@edlooney9625
@edlooney9625 Год назад
Make a wider breezeway - mudroom between the two buildings so the stove can go in there. Eliminate the cabin back door move it to the breezeway - mud room and hallway. Make it large enough for the stove, fire wood, coat rack and boots. Advantages are no lost space in either building from the stove, chimney issue solved and both buildings have a heat source.
@kateanderson7423
@kateanderson7423 Год назад
I used a piece of 8" well casing for vertical stove pipe on outside of building and also poured a concrete pad with steel plate welded to end of casing.I ran my double pipe thru wall to casing and adapted pipe with bird mouth to casing.I also cut in a clean out in casing.Which works great in the wintertime.I also welded a bracket that attached to casing that would attach to eaves or gable end.Doing this you can run casing as high as needed.I must say the draft is great.
@cathycrow1411
@cathycrow1411 Год назад
As a woman, I feel sure Melissa will be thinking of furniture layout, functionality, etc. Having the shower house entrance in the front May take out a lot of options. Encroaching the shower house next to front porch may also feel crowded. Where will kitchen area be located if wood stove is in back? The stove in front left corner and hallway put where current window is by staircase would be great in my opinion. If plumbing is an issue with having bathroom and kitchen on opposite sides of cabin, then put shower house in original place in back left and put stove in front left corner.
@chrissheathewoodguy
@chrissheathewoodguy Год назад
I agree with the placement of the shower house... I think the place will look better as well. come out the wall with the pipe. less issues and easier to replace pipe if ever needed.
@RobertDAmerigo
@RobertDAmerigo Год назад
If you'd like to get creative & are careful enough you can split your staircase landing .Go up 5 steps add a dormer to the right with 5 steps down to the hallway into the bath house . its a shorter walk from the bedroom to bath house and doesn't limited you to giving up wall space .
@t4leta
@t4leta Год назад
Mike you could make the hallway attached to the back door and add a new back door as part of the hallway. So you’d be moving the shower house back about an additional four or five feet.
@davidmorse8432
@davidmorse8432 Год назад
Hello! 😊 I would run the stove pipe thru the second floor and then exposed on the right side of the dormer window. The stove pipe radiates heat and you want that heat inside the building, not outside. The dormer is very wide so the view will still be good even though the stove pipe will still be blocking a small part of it.
@ScottfromNB
@ScottfromNB Год назад
Also, less creosote buildup in an interior stove pipe. Guess it would depend on how valuable that inside space would be as a bed space or something.
@Steve-rv1ne
@Steve-rv1ne Год назад
If you get heavy snow there I think coming out wall and up is better. Heavy snow sliding down roof will crush pipe. You can put a guard to protect for that but easier install and cleaning going out wall. Cabin is looking good and am interested in how it comes together. Great channel
@michiganoutdoorsman9865
@michiganoutdoorsman9865 Год назад
Go out the back door and make a little mudd room for all your stuff and that way you’re not taking space away from the cabin. Put the wood burner towards the front corner opposite of the door and you still have room for furniture and maybe even a mini kitchen down there.Even if you loose the corner for a little bed you can always put a fold out bed down stairs having the added room
@brianfrank6271
@brianfrank6271 Год назад
I would take the window out and put the hallway where the window is. You won't see anything but the backside of the hallway and the side of the shower house. Relocate the window into the hallway so you still get some natural light. That gives you a lot more options for the placement of the woodstove.
@firemanbob1994
@firemanbob1994 Год назад
I would avoid cutting a hole in the roof. As others suggested, I would make the hallway to the wet building external and connect to the rear door (avoiding cutting a hole in the cabin.) Make the hallway enclose the rear door, and just buy an additional exterior door to exit onto the rear patio.
@mcldotcom
@mcldotcom 11 месяцев назад
Three Choices / Options to explore. INSTEAD of In front of the building towards the Porch. Flip Flop to the Stair side as the Hallway being the Next place to Measure from. Also Straight out the Back with a Twist. Off setting the Shower house from the side then two 45 degree angles to get it back in line. 22 degrees works also. Slight Behind the window and to the side of the poured back patio. Third option is to Change the location of the door access all together. Turn the shower house 180 degrees. Back door access coming off the Porch with a Longer hallway. Connecting that behind the stair way just offset on the right side as your looking in through the front door. Cannot draw it here yet listen closely. A Breeze way aspect. Back door , Turn right towards the stairway. NOW the Direction YOU sit the Shower house can rotate. Left , Right , Forward backwards. Chimney would still be able to have multiple options. Flip the shower house. Use the breezeway along the back porch. Go to the right of the cabin Its a Compromise with ONLY ONE Down side. A Longer hallway / breezeway then before. Its a Compromise. Unless you change who the stairs are placed and close off another spot to Exactly have what YOU started to look at. There is always another way. MY PROPOSAL Clears up current floor space. Adds in about 5 or so longer hallway then before. Places it on the right Side instead of the left. Mark it out with the tape. Am willing to bet * YOU * will agree. Its NOT perfect. Its Doable. Things Change. Unless you change more of the cabin. The Shower house needs a longer hallway to keep the Fireplace more accessible in this layout. Stakes or large Landscape Spikes work best. 10 x 12 feet is small YET the hallway would need to be about 36 inch interior or larger. Making the Exterior structure Breezeway to come out to be 48 inches give or take along the back wall of the poured concrete patio slab In place now. YOUR WELCOME. Do the Math, It All MAKES PERFECT SENSE.
@gregfisher216
@gregfisher216 Год назад
Good Morning Morgan's from a hot Gulf Shores . I see that are 751 comments ,which equates to 751 opinions and or opinions. I believe that once you talk to Zack and Melisa ,you will come up with a plan.
@randylonghurst9326
@randylonghurst9326 Год назад
Mike, have you thought about moving the shower house to the other side of the cabin with the hallway somewhere near the stairway? This would free up the other wall for the wood stove and shorten the walk from upstairs to the bathroom. I know you have a drainage issue on that side but a man with your talents and equipment can fix that. Just a thought.
@mtb09
@mtb09 Год назад
I came here to say the same thing. Door to the right of the stairs.
@bennym1956
@bennym1956 Год назад
Walk in front door, locate wood stove in left front corner and run stove pipe out wall and up. Not in the way as much as down along left wall and sticking out there. Room narrows down at midpoint back cause of stairway. 9:45 Will constrict flow.
@JustAFlyover
@JustAFlyover Год назад
I agree
@bruceludwick8200
@bruceludwick8200 Год назад
Saw you driving on the Glendale Road. I have driven there hundreds of times when we had a cottage at DCL and I lost my 1970 Impala Convertible there at the North Glade Road entrance about thirty years ago to a Toyota pickup. I still miss it. My suggestion is to put the stove in the front corner beside the porch railing. That way you will keep the front less cluttered, asthetically. There is not an issue with the dormer, and you can have a seating area around the wood stove. The other reason not to put it further back is that it may interfere with your kitchen plans. While my wife said that you may want to keep the water source for the bathroom and kitchen close to each other as you originally planned, the idea of putting the bathroom on the right side with the doorway next to the stairs is a good one. That area near the stairs can't be used for seating, but an opening for a bathroom would be a good use. I think that offsetting it further back from the front makes for a better appearance, too. Good luck. You have lots of suggestions.
@scottmiller5799
@scottmiller5799 Год назад
Go outside the wall, better chance not to leak, take out the side window to make a hallway to the shower house, looks like it would set the house in a good spot, then move the window to the front area of the cabin, this way you still have light, and i would also pour the new slab to go from the front of the shower house to the back patio, this way you have a good place to cookout without taking up your room on the back patio, just a thought Mike
@westvirginiaminer3046
@westvirginiaminer3046 Год назад
I would leave bathhouse in old spot and put stove in front corner by the porch and put pipe through porch roof
@PatrickCPalmer
@PatrickCPalmer Год назад
I agree with all the other comments, cut out the widow at the bottom of the stairs and put the door to the shower there and then put the wood stove in the front left corner
@MikeSparkman
@MikeSparkman Год назад
Make your hallway turn left when you go out the back door then move the back door straight back the width of the hallway and have it still go out on the patio. Wont mess up your living space and will still have your stove where you want it.
@chitownvike
@chitownvike Год назад
your channel is great! Ever consider end turning the cabin and putting the porch dumping into the patio and then your shower house is off the front on the other side and your stove can be in the living space? your indoor living space immediately leading into your Porch immediately leading onto your patio will expand your living space and keep people together.
@gregberthiaume8665
@gregberthiaume8665 Год назад
I’d put the stove upfront and keep the bath house as originally planned. That way you have a nice view of the fire in what I assume will be a sitting area. And your taking up you most useful walk space with a door by moving it up
@bjhalt112
@bjhalt112 Год назад
Hi Mike, an alternative to regular batteries or even lithium for your trail cameras is to buy a 12 volt battery (7 or 8 ah). Drop that battery into a plastic 30 cal plano ammo box, notch a small hole and connect to your trail camera via wiring harness. Stealth cams sell 10ft wire cable for volt trail cams. Last all season for me and at the end of the season simple charge the battery and you are ready for next season. Whole setup cost maybe $50 but I was going through that almost per year, per camera running lithium batteries. Those are expensive and hard to find now. Anyway, just a suggestion. I have my trail cameras set to 30 sec videos and that really helps me know what’s going on at my property for wildlife viewing. All the best to you and your family, take care.
@mickyb7428
@mickyb7428 Год назад
Great video Mike. Have you thought about possibly putting the woodstove to the left of the front door in the corner? You could still run the stovepipe on the side and it wouldn’t disrupt your plan for the bathhouse. Plus, once you get the kitchen in I think you’ll find it a tad cramped back there, not to mention extra heat back there. Also, we have always cut a floor vent in the floor above the woodstove, it allows for wonderful heat upstairs.
@Mrlocdown238
@Mrlocdown238 Год назад
I would add a room off the back the width of the cabin. With a simple shed roof. Spilt it in half, one side a mud room and the other side a bathroom.
@EpicRayKirk
@EpicRayKirk Год назад
I was going to say what Daniel Williams said. Out the back door with hall and you could put an exit door in the hall in case there is a 2nd exit required by building code.
@kevingerlach7517
@kevingerlach7517 Год назад
WOW! He is getting SO BIG! Talking TOO! Wonderful seeing the family getting bigger for Grandparents to Enjoy. Beautiful Family Mike and Melissa. Prayers and Best Wishes to you and your family.
@walterfagner6874
@walterfagner6874 Год назад
You may be able to keep the wood stove and shower house where you want it. Also keep the tree by making your back door the hallway entrance, and then put the back door straight ahead or to the right when steeping into the hallway. With minimum infringement to the patio area. Just a thought
@danantrosiglio1414
@danantrosiglio1414 Год назад
Hi Mike, it may make it easier to decide where you would like the stove and door to the outhouse if you first lay out the interior design. Example, where would you like to put a small table, small kitchen or a small couch. Also, with the limited wall space you have, can it work for you if you put the outhouse in the back of the house that way you already have the door leading to it and you will not loose wall space inside the cabin.
@john0119
@john0119 Год назад
I would have a adviser from your friends at Deer Creek, Draw out some Lay Outs. Then make a good Diession 👍🕊
@johnpowell2431
@johnpowell2431 Год назад
Don't forget you don't have to have the stove pipe go directly straight up. You can use a 45deg to angle it over to were you want then 45deg back straight up. Easy and will still draft fine.
@chasnelson5753
@chasnelson5753 Год назад
My first thought
@timrek53
@timrek53 Год назад
Yes, I like the idea of putting the hallway where the window is to keep the bathhouse back a little bit and move the window toward the front porch....
@orchidsupplystore1722
@orchidsupplystore1722 Год назад
Easy, put the stove in the middle of the house, next to the stairs. Pipe up to the 2nd floor, hugging the stairs, goint up thru the roof. Heat from the pipe helps heat the 2nd floor. Now you can do what ever you decide with the bath house and the hallway.
@brianhunt4488
@brianhunt4488 Год назад
If you came off the back corner like you originally thought and just make the hallway bigger that goes to the bathhouse. You can put the fireplace in the hallway and also use it like a mud room
@leahmeyer5574
@leahmeyer5574 Год назад
You may regret not having the bath hall closest to the back door for muddy kids n dogs. Taking the stovepipe thru the floor seems to make the most sense to me + extra toasty up there.
@murphy9591
@murphy9591 Год назад
Closed in porch on back, off same side as rear door put entrance to shower. Rest of room is storage for firewood/mudroom. With this set up the stove is close enough to heat shower house or run a fan with flex duct from main living area. Heat will not transfer down a 4 ft hallway to a closed off room.
@olddawgdreaming5715
@olddawgdreaming5715 Год назад
Great video Mike and Melissa, the cabin is getting figured out and that Bathroom Building looks awesome. It will be so great to see it installed and working well before winter. Good to see Levi and Kate and their family being surprised. They are looking good too. Stay safe and keep up the good videos. OLD DAWG DREAMING Fred.
@josephfiesel3571
@josephfiesel3571 Год назад
Perhaps you can put the hallway where that window is. With the shower building there you won't get much sun anyway. Plus you won't lose additional wall space for furniture, etc.
@newburghwildlife
@newburghwildlife Год назад
Keep hallway by back door and put stove on shower house side in front. Gives you more clearance around it and not cramped in close to back door
@daleorthman
@daleorthman Год назад
Great project Mike... Think Safety! I know you burn good dry hard wood. You want to reduce any angles between the stove and termination of your chimney as possible for draft and ease of cleaning. I would absolutely go straight up through the roof. You will retain more heat in the cabin and keep your flue gases warmer to reduce stage 1, 2 and 3 creosote. A cathedral ceiling package and roof supports will do fine and be to code. That is how we do it here in New Hampshire anyway. Keep up the good work.
@wolfpack4128
@wolfpack4128 Год назад
The Flexes use quite a bit of battery. I am running about 20 of them. I have solar setups for them all. Spypoint actually makes a good one.
@randybowe3986
@randybowe3986 Год назад
Put it in front left corner, and leave hallway where it was. Better use of space will flow better. Plus you can set by the fire in your living area.
@davidbondurant8859
@davidbondurant8859 Год назад
Mike, you may want to consider, removing the window and making the entrance to the shower house there, it might but the shower house more in the center of the building and you could use the window between the shower and the front of the cabin!
@myk55501
@myk55501 Год назад
Hey, you could put the shower addition on the back like RV shower on one side and toilet and sink on other then back door out side large over hang screened with outside sink and grill. But you could add outside wood boiler and put wall heating units in still giving you wood fuel.
@mw645842
@mw645842 Год назад
I would put the hallway to the shower house where the window is in the middle of the wall. You can always add a window front or back. Or put the shower house on the other side and put the hallway at the base of the stairs.
@Trumptrain2024FJB
@Trumptrain2024FJB Год назад
It's a Cabin baby!!!! And when applying Oil or water base finish? Use a Microfiber roller fast and easy ! Better finish and when you're done wrap the roller up in plastic bag! Just a pro tip! We stopped using a brush 15 years ago!!!
@floydjackson298
@floydjackson298 Год назад
Hey now, I am thinking take window out. Build a 10x10 hallway where window was and connect hallway to showerhouse. Use the 10x10 hallway for stove placement. You will not lose floor space. Good luck with which ever you choose. Good Vidjays. Keep on trucking.
@jonathankeith2547
@jonathankeith2547 Год назад
I have a 2002 F250 with a 7.3, Brazilian built right hand drive for the Australian market. I tow a 3.5t 23 foot caravan with it, and generally get between 5.5-6 km/litre, thats 12-13.5 miles per gallon your vintage units of measurement. Love that old 7.3 Powerstroke.
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