This $2,000 Hackintosh SMASHES the $4,000 Mac Studio 

Mentioning you used to be able to “create a hackintosh in minutes” lol. I’ve lost days of my time to debugging my hackintoshes over the years even with those “easy” tools. Appreciate the video, I’ve given up on the hackintosh dream and have been living the m1 life for a while now. I do miss the performance more often than I thought I would.

If you optimize the 13700K just right, you can get respectable efficiency! Mine gets a Cinebench score of 28000 with a power draw of just 165W. That's just a 7% loss of performance with a massive drop in power draw.

Oh man you brought back memories of using a Hackintosh. I do not miss messing around with custom config files. Excellent work!

I planned on buying parts (today) for a 10th gen build, because I believed it was the last officially supported generation of Intel CPUs, but after seeing this, I may have to change that up. Thanks for the excellent video.

Love this vid and not shying away from the details and explaining things in an approachable way.

Fun little experiment-thought about doing this many times. May still do it. That thermal difference is a huge difference in limited spaces. My 12700K/RTX 3080 rig heats up my space during the summer likes like a sauna. Not necessarily a reason to pick your platform, mind you, but a bit of a decision maker as to what device I boot up on any given day.

The Open Core team have done some great work. I just recently used the Open Core Legacy Patcher to install Monterey on a Mid 2011 iMac that I upgraded the GPU on. Full metal support and everything works brilliantly. Next step is to upgrade the BT / WIFI adapter to allow support for Handoff / Airplay / etc.

I LOVE THIS KIND OF CONTENT!!! i build my first Hackintosh in 2008, and all this talk is nostalgic, i hope everybody keeps all this Hackintosh topic alive!

This is a highly in-depth and well informed video. Great job!

I used to build many a Hackintosh bitd on generic stuff using Clover Configurator etc. They all worked, sometimes quite well. And then I switched to cMP 5,1's for 6 or so years, all good, all supported with some tweaks. However, for the first time ever I've picked up some second hand PC stuff thats fairly supported, studied the Dortania guides and spent a week building a new Hack. And it just works, the guides are fantastic documents on how Macs work- some of the best written technical docs I've ever encountered.

It would be great to get a detailed guide on how to build a hackintosh. Really enjoy your format of content. I always learn something.

Superb work doing this video, quite surprising results....wanted to see latest hardware performance in hackintosh.

I built an 8th Gen HackMac using an i5-8600K on an MSI board with an RX Vega 56 GPU which worked great and was strangely easy to get working using OpenCore. Recently upgraded to an i9-9900K (2nd hand from ebay) for seriously improved performance. But, seeing your successful 13th Gen build has given me hope.... Sadly, I cannot afford Apple silicon just yet so I guess its time for another upgrade...

Just about finished upgrading my whole family's old Haswell based hackintoshes to 10th gen Intel and Big Sur - five PCs with my own PC triple booting. There's almost zero point (unless you really need it) bothering with Monterey or Ventura as Apple have been stripping out hardware driver support with each more recent version, with all the focus understandably being on M1 development - this can make things like bluetooth, wifi and even ethernet trickier to get working and less stable generally for no appreciable benefit since BIg Sur still got a recent security update. Also of course as Apple deprecate older hardware there's no point them including drivers for that hardware in a current OS - but from a hackintoshing point of view this limits your options. For me 10th gen Intel with Big Sur is the sweet spot. Also Quinn I'm not sure if you just lucked out or maybe you missed explaining that you can no longer fix your USB port limit issues AFTER installation with USB mapping - this needs to be done before you create the installer so you have your USBToolBox.kext and UTBMap.kext )or equivalent) - specific to the hardware you intend to install on - before you attempt to install. Far and away the easiest way of doing this is with USBToolbox - created by dhinakg of Opencore dev fame - on Windows. This is actually the biggest headache in the process IME, because you have to figure out which of your allowed 15 ports you're going to keep. Mind you its not that tricky as the 15 port limit is per controller and your higher end motherboards tend to have two or three controllers. Also it's pretty simple to sacrifice unused internal USB headers and also switch off the USB 3.0 port where you know you're only going to connect USB 2.0 or 1.1 devices or vice versa. Anyone interested should search for "chriswayg" on gitbook and "USB Mapping on Windows" - his Opencore Visual Guide is generally very good and highly recommended in conjunction with the Dortania guide.

the metaphore you used with the conductor and musician is so fire. love that

I love how you explained everything....also your personality.

Great video, Quinn. I just sold my old Ryzen 3900X/5700XT hackintosh rig and assembled an all white NZXT build, same i7 13700K as yours and a reference black 6950XT. It looks clean and has phenomenal performance for the price. Was going to install Ventura today on one of the NVMEs and your video just came out at perfect timing. I totally agree on your vision about the future of Hackintosh. This may actually be my last one as well; can’t beat an M1 Ultra killer at half price.

I just built almost EXACTLY this machine. The 13700k is a beast.

really excellent, informative and comprehensive video, thank you buddy. My request do you have a step by step guide for building a hackintosh and which way do you prefer proxmox or native install ?

still running my hackintoshes since 2017... couldn't be happier. Upgradability was the key for me. Couple of upgrades along the way and it runs like new with latest MacOS.

I WASN'T planing to do a Hackintosh... until I watched this video! Now I'm seriously contemplating it! I honestly could not care less if it continues to support the latest MacOS. For stability and compatibility with software and peripherals, I always stay a minimum of 2 full versions behind current version anyway. The machine that I pay the bills with is still using Mojave, and I have no intention of updating that any time soon!

I bought a Mac Mini with a 10-core M2 Pro and I've been more than happy with it. I'm mainly a Linux user, but Asahi Linux drivers are in the works so I'll get back to Linux in a while. One of the major factors for getting this machine was the power efficiency, as here in the Nordic countries, electric costs have sky rocketed. I used to have an FX 8350 and an R9 390 and it drew so much power when just doing pretty lightweight tasks. My daily driver before the Mac Mini was an ASUS laptop with a Ryzen 7 3700U and the Mac crushes it. In a DIY xz compression tests the ASUS took 1758s to compress it when the Mac Mini did it in 864s, less than half the time. Decompressing that took 80s for the ASUS laptop and 32s for the Mac Mini. Yeah, not really saving that much in decompression, but as I have to compress software packages using `XZ_OPT=-e9` daily, it will save alot of time. When compiling LLVM using a custom build script, it took the ASUS laptop 82min when the Mac Mini did it in 9min. That's 11% of the time the ASUS laptop took do compiling it. The ASUS laptop was 800€ new and the Mac Mini 1480€ with a student discount, but that's still worth the money for me as I'm saving alot of time without having a bulky desktop (my room is under 9m^2 so space is limited) and having way lower power draw than my old desktop.

Did an opencore AMD build 1,5 years ago. I tried the multibeast approach 2 years before that. I found opencore to be way easier with the guide. I did have some errors, but that was my own fault for not RTFM good enough. Still wouldn't use it as a production machine though. For professional workflows I'd go with Mac Studio (or upcoming Mac Pro), independent contractors could try it to safe a buck or for private usage you'd try it. It was really fun to build and my gateway into MacOS (own MBP's 14" and 16" now).

I used to keep Windows, Ubuntu, and MacOS on all my daily driver machines and boot into whatever OS best suited my workload for that day. I haven't installed MacOS in a long time, though. I think I'm going to try it again. Ya talked me into it. I'm going to make some room on my hard drive and see if I can get this to work. It would be nice to have that third option again when I want to edit a video or record my guitar. Windows does fine for that but I really love the MacOS options for media editing. Thanks for making this video. I had no idea this was a thing.

I am using a 2006 Mac Pro case for my PC right now and I love it. But that Fractal case is looking really nice too. You may have gotten me to switch to that lol.

Hey! If anyone is having trouble editing their plist files, you can always use the easy method (which is not mentioned in the OC documentation probably because they want you to know how all this works + easier to trouble shoot) is to use OC Auxillary tools. It basically does it all automatically for you + easy updates once you are set up too

built a hackintosh ventura last week for my old pc. 8th gen 8600k. i was surprised with the performance with the iGpu. Windows 11 22h2 was lagging in some apps but the same apps running smooth in the hackintosh.

For almost a year, I used OpenCOre Legacy Monterey on my 2011 Mac MIni. It was amazing. Now that I have an M1 Mac Mini, I converted the 2011 Mac Mini to a Mint 21.1 Cinnamon machine. Both of these machines together have more oomph that I could ever use.

This was an great video. I like Quinn's unbias take on computing hardware and software. It makes him some you can trust.

My biggest issue with a Hackintosh is that it's fool's gold. Some nerd talks you into putting together a Hackintosh for you, spends a day getting it up and running, leaves it with you, and everything's great until you run an OS update and the whole computer refuses to boot, and now you're entirely dependent on that one friend coming back to your house. Running a Hackintosh is for people who are fine with the idea of needing to hand-modify plist files and troubleshoot random issues that happen for no reason. It's cool for people who want to work ON their computer. That sounds like a slight but I don't mean it to. Some people like to tinker. Most people don't. I think it's a cool concept but I've seen regular people get talked into these and regret it.

Impressively comprehensive - great content!

I have an old G4 DMD and G5 PowerMacs and it's tempting. My Hackintosh was state of the art in 2012. Upgraded the GPU in 2020, but, this is really tempting.

Bought the MBP16 M2 Pro a ew months ago, likely will stay on this for the time being. The lack of future support kills my interest in building one of these.

Definitively didn't think this was possible, it's definitively been idealized in the RU-vid tech world. Still, for laptops, the power efficiency really shines! And with the base M2 mini, there is some price/perf to be had as well. When the base M1 Pro 14" Macbook Pro came out, with its gorgeous screen and performance, it was really above everything else. Now that AMD is coming out with its 7840HS/U, and laptop manufacturers have much better screens and whatnot than back then, the competition has caught up. Still, for the people who bought it when it came out, the MBP is really aging gracefully

I liked the fairness of how this was all compared. watt / power and needs / wants :)

Thanks for the video. where do I get the tutorials for installing the macOS?

This is the content that I subscribed to.

OpenCore is such a godsend for old Macs as well. I don't know if I'd say OpenCore is "easy" for the average user but it's such an improvement. If OCLP expands or forks to PC hardware, it could be easy. Ironically I still edit on FCPX on my Mac Pro 2019 over my M1 Max too thanks to issues.

Really happy to see hackingtosh vids back

Not missing the sound of fan or unstable airdrop or limited support for netflix playback in safari. It was nice I build one and used for two years. Now it is back to a regular pc.

You forgot to mention how quiet Macs are - I really cannot overstate how awesome it is to have quiet at my desk since I switched to apple silicon from my old Intel laptop.

The entire time I was like, "yeah, but talk about performance per watt" and then you did, and i was like, "oh... I guess that really isn't much of a benefit," when you put it in terms of how long it will take to pay off the Mac Studio with the energy savings, it all made sense. I have a feeling like the more Apple increases the performance of each iteration of their in house silicon, they're also going to push that thermal headroom that they had going into this race, and eventually they'll be able to truly out perform a PC at the same power draw. But then they'll have to contend with the thermals of the machine, which they haven't been the best at when it came to intel based macs. Who knows, maybe they're doing R&D to figure that out.

Is there a program that you are using to run Windows on the MacOS system? Is that parallels or is that something that is built in? Appreciate the video! 13:29

The best moment to build a Hackintosh was two years ago. I built 4, everyone in the house use their own and they will pay off in a year or two when it will be time to move to M series Macs. My 5900X based machine is still fantastic daily driver for Xcode and I will move to Mac when it becomes an issue. Which is not looking to be this year.

Interesting. I'd like to see the performance of a Hackintosh with a new 56 core Xeon W with loads of RAM - at least 256 GB. Obviously it's going to be vastly more expensive than a Mac Studio, but how about a comparable Mac Pro?

This is what i love and proud about learning from snazzylabs

Great inspiring video. Can’t seem to get GIGABYTE Z690 AERO D! Can you recommend an alternative with 2.5gb and 10gb Ethernet. Do any of the new Z790 with 13 Gen CPU work with hackintosh?

Really impresive stuff. Makes me want to try it out. Also, real quick. It just works is very much a troupe. I work in an enterprise environment and I have learned first hand that it very much does not just work. Maybe for home users but not in my enterprise enviornment. It's honestly something I really wish Apple would address because the genral vibe I've gotten from them when talking to them is that that they just don't care.

I currently daily drive a spec'd out 2019 16" MBP. Currently dual-booting windows (for gaming) and macOS (for everything else). I think my next big system purchase could very well be to build this hackintosh, very likely out of used components. I love that you did this and I hope a Hackintosh is as stable as you claim it is. Also, thanks for pointing out how weird reviews of apple computers are. When the M2 macbooks were released I was confused as to why reviewers were hailing them as "the best laptops ever" when laptops with 40 series GPUs were already out and easily outperforming M2 macbooks.

Can you please explain more about how that thunderbolt passthrough to the GPU works / is set up?

Man, the presentation of this video was superb.

I switched from bare metal to VM hackintoshing. *SO* much easier to set up. Performance equal to bare metal (better than bare metal for intel 12th and 13th gen, because the Linux host deals with heterogeneous core CPU scheduling). The only sacrifice is setting aside a few GB of RAM for the VM host. But RAM is cheap right now.

This is a great video but I wish you had compared it to the 2019 Mac Pro. Reason being these are now available on the used market for around 2/3rds of the retail price and can also dual boot to windows with the advantage of the same GPU support. I’m considering selling my hackintosh and Mac mini to consolidate into one Mac Pro dual booted

Excellent as always. Great video!

What choice of graphics card would you have to make to have the prodisplay xdr work on any laptop ?

I love your stance on M1. For me M1 is great but waaaaay overhyped. The only real benefit from M1 for most users is the great battery life for notebooks. But I look forward to what it’s potential is.

The music at 01:00 slaps. Added even more class to the channel!

Dude, this video should be titled, understanding hackintosh. These things that you described I did not understand like the ahci and patching were valuable because I've been doing some of these things not really understanding how the pieces fit together but that they are simply necessary. Thank you for this

honestly what would you recommend for stability: a hypervisor based or bare metal setup ?, please suggest a good tutorial too, it'll really help me build one.

Never been a huge Mac fan but opencore might convince me to give it a shot.

I think the other issue with a hackintosh now a days is the fact that in the low end the Mac Mini is actually competitive now. 500 dollars with the education discount and I don't think a better value could have been had.

I just wanna know if its possible to run Mac OS on an single-board arm soc unit or an Arm workstation PC? I always wondered about this.

I build a Hackintosh 2y ago it has been working perfectly so far. I can definitely recommend it! Soon I plan to upgrade the CPU (from ryzen 5 3600)

I recently got an old pc from an office and I really want to hackintosh it over the summer but it seemed like an overly complicated process until I watched this well timed video

This was so interesting to watch, I honestly also look forward to Apple doing stuff with eGPUs. They are a great way for people to upgrade their existing Macs with much better GPU. We have thunderbolt 4 and stuff now, stuff is so fast. Let us have eGPUs!

I was JUST looking at one of your Linux "hackintosh" videos LMAO great to see more!

I love seeing that this is still possible. I might try this when I need to replace my macbook 😊

It also smashes the electricity bill at the end of the month 🤣

What'd you recommend for virtualizing MacOS?

Which thunderbolt LG display are you running 4 or 5K? The 5K needs dual display port pass thru

X86 is Dead, Arm and RISC-V is the future !!!

Would like to see it on P core only with a slight overclock. Probably would run better as processes wouldn't be getting stuck on slower cores. At least everywhere that doesn't make use of more than 10 threads (hyper threading only makes up for so many real cores). Of course it would be really nice to try a workstation class 10 or 12 (or more) P core Xeon, but a lot of things would be nice. The beat deal I saw on those included a $700 SuperMicro board and a high core processor is like $1,000-3,000

snazzy, are you currently working on a mac mini mini v2? id love to see it with the updated m2 pro mainboard!

I used to have Hackintosh back in the Clover days. Still remember the pain of installing system updates.

You probably can't wake up that Thunderbolt port from sleep either, unless that long-standing issue has been resolved. Folks should also make sure they read the install guides before buying stuff. There are a lot of hardware compatibility concerns and issues so verify the parts you want will work.

Cannot find a Gigabyte Z690 Aero D, but there seems to be an abundance of Gigabyte Z690 Aero G. Would this board also work with this hackintosh?

The OpenCore guide only provides info for up to Comet Lake CPU's? Where do i find info regarding Raptor Lake CPU?

Do u have the guide i can follow to use opencore or a write up of what all u did to get this hackmac working??

I have in the past turned my old Lenovo T450s into a Hackintosh and it was right before the M1 MacBook pro 14 came out. Gotta say that it didn't take long until I switched to mac hardware, and bought the 14" MBP. I think that this HackStudio can still be a relevant choice, I'd like to see a HackBook doing so well.

My last hackintosh was built in late 2019. X299 system, gigabyte designare-EX in a Lian-Li case. I9 7940X, fully decked out 128gb ram. I think I spent around $1700 total. Shortly after that, prices skyrocketed after the chip shortage and high tariffs. It has been a great system. Running Ventura on OC .8.8

I have a i3-12100f and a RX 5500 XT running MacOS Sonoma. But the HDMI audio is not working. My monitor has built-in speakers so I want them to be used. My motherboard's audio jack is working but HDMI audio isn't working. How can I fix this??

Love your Hackintosh series! Planning my own build, likely 10th gen Intel.

i wonder what the 20/30% cost 80% solution is of that hackintosh, if it exists , likely utilizing used / refurbished parts in auction and some form of overclock/under clock / undervolt , whatever delivers best stable performance

Great video. You always manage to explain things in a way that even I can understand! 🙂

Is the onboard thunderbolt working or is it an add-in titan ridge card?

I'm looking to upgrade my current hack (i7-8700K) with like an i9-13900k. Is this MB the best around? Does it really have working wifi and bluetooth out of the box? Thanks!

I love your video! I want to use that motherboard but use a 13900 instead for more cores, can I do that in a hackintosh Ventura?

How did you get AirDrop working with the onboard WiFi?

Definitely wanna try my hand at building "Venture" on a Hackintosh.....gonna start gathering price quotes on the stuff I wanna have in it! Thanks for the vid dude! You've rekindled my interest in Hackintosh building!...LoL!

Is there a guide somewhere online for this particular build? I have the same exact parts.

Can you please make step by step detailed video from start to finish for this setup. Please.

I have a Xeon 2670 v3 running at 3.1 GHz on macOS Ventura 13.5.1. I use hackintosh about 15 years now, and will use if I can.

I love that your cooler is bigger than the whole Mac Studio. LOL It always makes you wonder how great the Mac platform could be if they made some simple towers like the old G3s and let people have more flexibility...

OC has been my go-to ever since a couple months ago because of how much more compatible and reliable it is. The fact that OC is way better than Clover is amazing to me.

That was a great 5-8 second long cool intro

yeah this is the content we love to see,

Would love to learn how to build one…is there somewhere I can goto build what I want for a music production machine that would work for Protools? Also will need about 3 PCIE slots. Maybe will be doing a little Final Cut but mainly audio production.

The real Tech-RU-vidr. Great Video as always!

Would it be OK to use a pre-configured OpenCore for laptops? As long as it is the _same_ laptop?

White builds are my favorite; I like to drown them in rainbow vomit RGB tho. Since MacOS doesn't respect Intel's CPU design, what clock multipliers do the cores run at? I feel like you'd be super limited by the efficiency cores, no?