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Today we have a beautiful Zodiac triple calendar moonphase from the 1960's that doesn't run. Join us for finding out why and for a discussion on the brand and some of their most famous watches.
We'll find out why the Zodiac killer got his name and we'll divert into which pushers your significant other may have on you!
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@NW-lj6oo 2 года назад

A great video that shows some real craftsmanship. It makes me wonder what watches Jeffrey Dahmer, John Wayne Gacy and Dennis Nilsen wore? Was Zodiac’s customer database central to the manhunt all those years ago? Interesting and unusual questions to ponder after watching a restoration video.

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Thanks! I started wondering that myself actually, but think a feature on serial killers' watches would be a bit too morbid...

@MillwalltheCat 2 года назад

Definitely a Swatch for Dahmer, Mickey Mouse for Gacy, and Nilsen would have worn his issued W10.

@JasperJanssen 2 года назад

He wasn’t called the Zodiac Killer for no reason! Ted Cruz, I mean.

@lablackzed 2 года назад

@@VintageWatchServices Old Adolf's watches would be an interesting story .

@Patriot-rising 2 года назад

All wore deranged Timex watches. That is why they were always so angry.

@1caitsith 2 года назад

"If you want to look like a guy who likes diving, or if you want to look like a guy who kills a lot of people. Then the Sea Wolf is a great choice." LOL I blew coffee out my nose. Thanks!

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

😂 Sorry to hear that but I'm also happy to hear that 😁

@EddyTeetree 2 года назад

Me too. I thought maybe that killed the brand ahead of the quartz crisis lol.

@freakysteve140281 2 года назад

I drive in Perth traffic in Western Australia, having both looks are somewhat of a necessity. Finally there is a watch that compliments the situation.

@sitandfish 2 года назад

Wow what a treat because, I own that watch and never expected to see a repair video on it. Mine is manual wind and probably 10 years older with a dark copper face. Shocking how they get seconds, minutes, hours, day, date, month and moon phase all in that little space. More shocking to see you pull it apart and put it back together again. Well done sir. Really made my day! ✌️

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

That's very cool to hear! It's a very nice watch and becoming more and more collectible :)

@greggc.touftree5936 2 года назад

I also was very interesting in the works for all the complications. I assume it would be rather pricey, because even the valjoux with all these movements cost a good sum more than their base 7750.

@keithfucious7067 Год назад

Once again, an awesome display of your talents. So glad to see you removed the cap jewels before it went through the ultrasonic then oiled them properly seemingly effortlessly. They can be a pain in the neck sometimes and its so easy to try to cheat and not remove them. So many people just assume the Ultrasonic will clean them properly without disassembling them, then oil through the hole jewel with an automatic oiler.. Grrrr I hate that. The one thing you MUST do is get those hole jewels and cap jewels sparkling clean and the only way to do that is to disassemble them..

@ygrbooks 2 года назад

Finally, a watch with a moon phase: thank you so much. Most people will not have realized this, but shortly before and then at full moon many people get really, really weird. You can see and hear this e.g. in car drivers honking their way through traffic or - even worse - in the following road rage. Or people just acting aggressively. Because of this, I have always felt that a moon calendar is absolutely essential in a watch. However, very few of our watch specialists on RU-vid seem to see/know this. A watch like this can tell time to some extent, but more importantly, warn you if the "LUNATICS" are out there - just check it! The reference to the brilliant Zodiac killer movie has also been greatly appreciated here - thank you again.

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

My pleasure, glad you liked it! The moon certainly has an effect on people, probably some more than others...

@OffGridInvestor 2 года назад

I have heard it's on THE NIGHT of a full moon that people go a little crazy.

@dshe8637 2 года назад

It's a total myth, but fun idea anyway

@bullnose01 2 года назад

What a gorgeous movement. Thanks for showing it to us. Happy holidays for you and the family, Stian.

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Thanks a lot, Bullnose and the same to you and yours!

@hankvanduijn 2 месяца назад

Another fantastic video!! I've only been watching them since this week since I found them on You Tube and have spent hours enjoying them! Thank you very much!

@VintageWatchServices 2 месяца назад

That's very cool to hear :)

@angelherrera6820 2 года назад

Great restoration of a beautiful watch! Always look forward to your videos. Great work! Can't wait to see what comes next. Cheers!

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Thanks Angel! Not sure what will be next, but we'll see in a week or so 😉

@G58 2 года назад

@@VintageWatchServices That was captivating. Am absolutely certain I could never do any of that. The parts are too small and my memory is not good enough. On that note, did I miss where you replaced the broken screw? Finally, having lived in Norway for a short time, I can’t decide whether you’re Norwegian or Swedish. Apologies if I’m miles out. Thank you for sharing your wonderful skills, and this gorgeous watch. Most of my watches have black faces. None are as nice as this Zodiac. Peace

@floydingram603 2 года назад

Thanks for another great video, this Zodiak black dial is so beautiful, and thanks for share watch histories.

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Thanks Floyd 👍

@decab8292 2 года назад

I find the workmanship in manual watches fascinating. Personally I really like pocket watches and prefer them over wrist watches. Thank you.

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Thanks for watching and for your comment! Mechanical watches are indeed fascinating, and there are a lot of amazing pocket watches. My interest in watches actually started with pocket watches but nowadays I'm mostly focused on wristwatches.

@rachelm9990 2 года назад

I just love your running commentary. You are certainly the most amusing watchmaker on RU-vid

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Thanks so much, Rachel! More to come, so stay tuned :)

@alancordwell9759 2 года назад

It's a beautiful watch, thank you for sharing. Love your humour by the way! Great channel, always a treat when a new video comes in :)

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Thanks a lot, Alan, that's very nice to hear :) More coming, so stay tuned!

@hungdohoangminh2064 2 дня назад

I have the same watch. I wish you could take care of my watch as well. What a service!

@PMS1950 2 года назад

Excellent video. Commentary is perfect and provides the perfect balance between being informative and pleasantly entertaining.

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Wow, thanks, Titus! More to come, so stay tuned :)

@LaurentiusTriarius Год назад

When I was a young adult in the 1990's and early 2000's I used to read a lot of north-american mountain bike publications, Zodiac wasn't the biggest advertiser but they often had a page or two at the end showing some extreme runner/biker or some poor soul in a survival situation wearing a "unkillable zodiac". After that brief push I never saw any other ads for the brand until recently.

@KRColson 2 года назад

Wonderful restoration! I thoroughly enjoyed watching and I have Liked and Subscribed! Looking forward to more. Love your commentary regarding one's spouse and washing dishes! Cheers!

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Thanks so much for that Kevin! We married men must stick together against the oppressors! 💪😂

@AFmedic 2 года назад

@@VintageWatchServices Stumbled up your channel and found it interesting, but your reply above just earned you a new subscriber. Stay strong, brother! 🤣 Years ago was dating a sweet young woman, but as she got more comfortable with our relationship she started changing. One day I was reading a book and she asked me what i was reading. I told her, "Your autobiography" and showed her the cover - "Mein Kampf" For some reason she left me and I don't know why. 😂

@ronaldlinkenhoker5705 2 года назад

Those closeups of the shock settings are fantastic!

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Thanks Ronald! I'm trying to add new interesting shots as I learn how to use the cameras better :)

@dennishall9173 Год назад

I love that watch I keep watching this video over and over again

@onlyvintagewatches 2 года назад

Very nice watch and very nice work! I love the moonphase complication! You definitely earned a new subscriber!

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Thanks for the sub, George, that's great to hear :) And subbed back!

@stevemoreno6241 2 года назад

Another great video with interesting history and banter. This is an attractive watch with desirable complications. There are a few of them on eBay currently seeing for between $200-$400. But as it's only a 33mm case it would look too small on my wrist. I have a current 40mm Longines with similar complications I wear often in my rotation.

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Thanks Steve! It's a wonderful watch indeed. I think you might be looking at a slightly different model then, this one is 34mm, 42mm lug to lug, so it wears very nicely. They will go for about $1500 even on eBay when in good condition. If you see one for $200-400 you should snap it up right away (or better yet, tell me where they are) 😉 40mm is certainly a bit more in line with today's fashion, and Longines makes some fantastic pieces. Even though they don't make their own movements anymore, they have managed to maintain much of their design language from way back when, and that's really nice to see.

@golden.lights.twinkle2329 2 года назад

Most of my watches are in the 30-35mm case size. I don't understand the obsession with larger and heavier watches. In fact if I find the men's model too large I sometimes buy the ladies model to get the smaller size I prefer.

@keithyoung7 2 года назад

Really enjoyed your narration, an excellent description of the movements. Am now a subscriber.

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Welcome aboard!

@jatco84 2 года назад

Enjoyed your vid and work on this great looking piece...as with most of your other work, along with your commentaries and often history lesson. Fascinated by the intricacies of mechanical watches. Quite interesting all around. Thank you..and Kudos.

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Thanks so much, Thomas :)

@sureshbhide1443 2 года назад

I am a hobbyist watch maker. However I have learnt a lot by seeing your videos. You are a good teacher for hobbyists like me.

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Hello Suresh, that is really nice to hear, thanks so much! It's a great hobby and there are so many good resources out there nowadays :) I suppose you've already found them, but if not, Mark Lovick's watch repair channel and his course on watchfix.com are probably the very best for learning watchmaking. Some other of my favorite channels are the Nekkid Watchmaker and Chronoglide and for going serious the Distance Learning Course from the British Horological Institute is the gold standard.

@HansMeijner 2 года назад

@@VintageWatchServices Great to see that you also like The Nekkid Watchmaker and Chronoglide! Two of my three favorite watchmaking channels. And yes, you are the the third one. :) The holy trinity of watchmaking channels.

@PR-fk5yb 2 года назад

Thanks for a great video. I rewinded it a couple times. Was trying to see how the selection 30-31 days of the month worked and how it skips at midnight... no luck... still happy... 🌞

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Thanks for that! The month disc is actually only manually set, no automatic switch over at 31 to 1. This isn't as crazy as it might seem, given that even in watches that do switch the month over at the 31st still needs to be manually corrected 5 out of 12 months...

@garetkonigsfeld2 2 года назад

I just can't get over what the are able to put on you wrist. To me watches like this and many other are like magic. And the beautiful hidden craftsmanship that gos into each pice is mind blowing to say the least. Thanks for sharing 👍 the amazing pieces of history.

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Thanks a lot Garet! That's one of the beauties of working in this field, being able to wear all kinds of different watches 😁 And before the quartz crisis, there were so many different manufacturers and movements, it makes it so rewarding to work on vintage watches.

@metaldetectingthenortheast1294 2 года назад

Have this in stainless version I picked up back in 2016. Zodiac Glorious are also nice and underrated. The 21,600 bph version used this movement minus the triple calendar complications.

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

That's a nice watch! Yep, Zodiac's made some very fine watches back in the day and I'll be featuring other models on the channel at some point 👍

@kokobwild2413 2 года назад

Superbly calming.

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Great to hear! More to come, so stay tuned :)

@BigBenTheory 2 года назад

Beautiful Zodiac and excellent work, congratulations on your magnificent channel. Greetings from Spain from a new subscriber.

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Thanks so much and welcome aboard! :)

@johnhull2941 2 года назад

fun to listen too fun to watch thanks again for this cant wait for the next one true craft is always great to watch

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Thanks so much, John, that's very kind 😊

@garysmith7545 2 года назад

Well Theo, I'm working my way across your videos. I'm hoping to get back to my stalled first practice movement as soon as my oils and mainspring winder arrive. I love the work you do! Thanks for sharing it with us.

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Thanks a lot, Gary! And the name is Stian 😉

@garysmith7545 2 года назад

@@VintageWatchServices I'm so sorry, I mis-heard. Does that explain why you now live where you do? Are you a "wanderer"?

@jwoodyr1 2 года назад

Thanks for yet another great video, Stian! The sexy slow-mo of the caseback sliiiiding into the cleaning solution is a very nice addition to you increasing cinematic skillset. With epilame on the pallet stones and escape wheel, do you let the watch run for a period of time before applying lubrication to the exit stone? I read somewhere a dry run period strips the epilame from the contact points to create a patch for the lube to sit. Thanks again!!

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Hello Woody, thanks so much! Yes, I do indeed do that, one or two minutes dry running is enough. It's not necessarily a big thing tbh, but the BHI recommends it, so I'll follow that :)

@Lemminjoose 11 месяцев назад

This exact watch, color combo and all, is my all-time grail watch.

@keithyoung7 2 года назад

Really enjoyed the video, your commentary on the movement and Zodiac company was excellent. Thanks.

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Much appreciated, thanks Keith!

@alanpreston3111 Год назад

Another great job , thanks 🙏🏻

@davelowey3074 2 года назад

Enjoyed another of your videos cheers, that watch was a little beauty. I'm enjoying fixing and servicing myself, not done anything very complex as yet day date automatic's and date manuals, but i love every part of it, i'm firly new to watchmaking about 2 years now time surely does fly. Ta ta

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Thanks Dave, and great to hear you're enjoying this fabulous hobby! The more you do the more you dare, but take anything in your own pace :) Using your phone camera to take pictures as you work on more complicated watches is a great help to remember how the pieces fit together, assuming they were in the right place to begin with 😉

@MrAlan0151 2 года назад

Enjoyed this very much, lovely watch.

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Glad you enjoyed it!

@Watchugoton 2 года назад

Stunning piece stunning work 💯👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👌🏻👍🏻🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Thank you so much, Andrew! 😀

@nullifiednullifidian5973 2 года назад

I loved your trolling of the OCD audience members by snapping the case back on crooked at 25:28.

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

😂 Yes, I put it on aligned for the owner :)

@boydsargeant7496 2 года назад

Thanks Stian, another great vid! How do you clean your cap stones and really small parts like this?

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Hello Boyd, I clean them in the tiny baskets in the cleaning machine together with other small parts. If there's still some residue on the cap stones after they come out of the cleaning machine, I rub them against the lint free paper I use and then clean them in a degreasing liquid. They need to be completely clean before adding the oil.

@ccooper8785 Год назад

5:37 bloody hell ! This video has taken a dark turn !😟It is night time and I am here on my own just harmlessly watching youtube videos. wait a minute, did I lock the back door ? what's that noise ? is that someone on the stairs ? 😱

@VintageWatchServices Год назад

😂👍

@gregcapella5941 2 года назад

Great watch repair videos !!!

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Thanks Greg :)

@AutomotiveEvangelist 2 года назад

There's a vintage jewelry store near me that has had one of these (gold plated case) in the window for 6 months now. They're asking a bit too much given that the case is fairly worn and I'm sure it needs a service. But I still stop and look at it every time I walk by.

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Yeah, they're beautiful watches... If you wait a bit they might be open for a price suggestion :)

@okhouri Год назад

The wife jokes were excellent this time 🤣😂

@VintageWatchServices Год назад

😁👍

@redrufus444 2 года назад

Another outstanding watch restoration., Bravo....

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Thank you so much, Ralph! 😀

@randyallen2771 2 года назад

Great video Stian but I was waiting for the part where you super glue the screw back together! Just curious, I've always wondered where you get replacement screws for vintage watches? Are they common sizes like you find at the (watch) hardware store or are they proprietary to each manufacturer/watch? I remember Zodiac watches well as my first good watch, back in the 70's was a Zodiac Sea Chron that I bought at the military exchange store. They were common, especially the Seawolfs. Still have that watch! That's a nice looking watch you have there, thanks for sharing!

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Thanks Randy! I think I learnt from the super glue incident that I need to make sure my jokes are not getting anyone into trouble! 😂 But I have a couple of videos coming up where a similar level of black magic is required... Very cool that you still have your Sea Chron, they are quite rare nowadays and very collectible. It's probably worth 30-40 times more now than when you bought it!

@MrLukealbanese 2 года назад

lovely work on a beautiful watch.

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Thanks Luke!

@udayrathod6471 2 года назад

Great Work Done.......

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Thanks Uday!

@Chad-Giga. 8 месяцев назад

They say the zodiac killer would only kill when his moonphase was full

@VintageWatchServices 8 месяцев назад

😅

@TheClockwise770 2 года назад

Another great restoration. Thank you Thion .Did they have a Zephyr watch company. I seem to remember seeing these in my youth.

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Thanks! The name is actually Stian, but I'm used to it being misunderstood :) I don't recall a watch company called Zephyr, but there were so many companies back in the day before the quartz crisis...

@josegustavopena3844 2 года назад

An amazing watch, a great job!

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Many thanks!

@bojidarvasilev8854 2 года назад

very beautiful dial. Black and gold. Very nice watch, bravo 👍👍

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Thanks a lot, Bojidar! It's a beautiful watch for sure, that black dial really makes the gold color deep and vibrant :)

@Rich77UK 2 года назад

What a beautiful watch. Its stunning.

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

It really is! 😍

@redbed1604 2 года назад

That's an amazing Watch! Good job!

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

It really is! 😍

@jerryjencik3879 2 года назад

Awesome watch, i want one, awesome work

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

It's a beauty! 😍

@Do_all_self 2 года назад

«A killer look» got new meaning there. 😃 Zodiak diver and a white van. Maybe also square glasses and a mustache to complete the look. Jokes aside, very pretty watch!

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Good point, they should bundle the white van with the watch 😂 Thanks for watching!

@pipodorologio1648 2 года назад

Complicated watch and an underestimated brand, Zodiac. Not seen that very much. Very nice perlage on the platine and amazing regulator on the balance so they spent a lot of effort to this movement....Love your humor.

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

It's a brand that flies a bit under the radar for the larger audience for sure, but they made some fabulous watches back in the day! They actually exist today as part of the Fossil group but I've heard their new watches aren't qualitative quite where they should be, unfortunately...

@alanmckinnon6791 2 года назад

Great job once again Stian, I have only one question - when placing the minute hand back, how did you get it to shift forward by three minutes with your nose? :-)

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

😂 Well spotted! My daughter actually came by and I had to help her out for a few minutes, then I continued the video :)

@robertbrowne7880 2 года назад

That's a watch I've looked for in the past. That one's in great shape.

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

It's a beauty for sure! They're getting more difficult to find nowadays.

@Jeroenblablabla 2 года назад

Wauw this is a very nice looking watch! Hopefully one day i can wear a watch like this! 😍

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Thanks Jeroen! This is indeed a gorgeous watch and I wish it was mine also 😉

@dominickcolasanto6582 2 года назад

Really nice looking watch. Entire watch and movement looks in great shape I suspect the screw came loose eirly in its life and the owner put the watch away safely. I bet thats a keeper. First time I heard of calendar watch that you have to manually change the month was this a common feature back in the day? Very interesting and enjoyable overhaul.

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Thanks Dominick! It was actually quite common to have to manually change the month. This isn't really as strange as it might sound like, given that you have to do so five out of the twelve months anyway, unless you have an actual perpetual calendar watch.

@supermenthol5531 2 года назад

My new favourite watch channel 👍

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

That's really cool to hear!

@maxin306 2 года назад

So complicated movement. Class!

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Thanks Maxin! It's a beautiful piece :)

@georgeliquor2931 2 года назад

I love Zodiacs, those glossy black dials are gorgeous, i have a couple of 60's Seawolf's love em am telling ya

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Yeah, they're real beauties 😍

@jcmontecarlo6123 5 месяцев назад

Beauty!❤

@lemokolyon 2 года назад

Nice job. A beautiful watch.

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Thanks!

@keysersoze503 2 года назад

Kudos on your dexterity and skill.

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Thanks! Video editing helps 😉

@brambijlhout7578 Год назад

Amazing watch and video

@VintageWatchServices Год назад

Thanks for watching!

@demmertp 2 года назад

Nicely done.

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Thanks Paul!

@Every_Day_Adventure 2 года назад

stunning watch

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Thanks David!

@chrisclews4162 2 года назад

Thankyou, great vid

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Glad you enjoyed it, Chris! More to come today, so stay tuned :)

@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 2 года назад

Nice job.

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Thanks!

@ToddsWatchshop 2 года назад

Wonderful!

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Thanks so much!

@jdiluigi 2 года назад

"Don't want to use something sharp"..Proceeds to immediately use something sharp😁. I do understand that's probably a softer metal than pusher. Just made me giggle.

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Yeah, I thought about that also when I saw the video 😂 But the tweezer tips I use are actually slightly filed down, so it should safe :)

@ricky6019 2 года назад

beautiful job…great movement, with the stoned barrel spring up and down! Only 17 ones? (I saw from the rotor at the beginning…).

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Thanks Ricky and you've got a sharp eye! Yes, most of these calibers would have 21 jewels, but for this early version the center wheel and seconds wheel run in metal bearings. Later these would also be jeweled.

@w.m.evanegdom4752 2 года назад

If I've seen it well this movement was made by Arnold Schild. Missed the oiling on what we call in the Netherlands the minute pipe. Has this somthing to do with the friction for the minute hand Which is placed on one the wheels from the weeltrain. Normally the minute- pipe is placed on the shaft of the midlleweel, but in this watch the friction Is situated on the wheeltrain. Beautifull watch.Thanks for your explanation.

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Thanks for watching and for your comment! The base movement was indeed an Adolf Schild movement, the AS1687, but a conglomerate of companies joined together to create all the complications on top of it. It wasn't just Zodiac, it was also Doxa, Favre Leuba, Girard Perregaux and Eberhard. Back then it cost a lot of money to develop new movements :) It might be that I didn't include the clip of oiling the minute wheel post, but these all get a tiny blob of thick oil such as HP1300 or D5.

@iqcops Год назад

Holy cow! The Zodiac Killer's watch! Look at the crown! This reminds me of the movie "ZODIAC", with Jake Gyllenhaal.

@Nefville 2 года назад

I wish I had seen this before I took my grandfathers Polerouter apart, had a screw from the microrotor under the balance wheel. I didn't see it and eventually had to take it to get it serviced, would have been an easy fix if I had spotted it but always a good idea to keep your watches serviced, especially ones like that from family that mean a lot. Unfortunately I scratched a bridge working on it and I am still upset about it. Bugs me to this day.

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Hello Nef, thanks for watching! It is indeed a very common issue, and when you open a watch and see an empty screwhole, there's a good chance that screw has come loose and is blocking something. And keep those screwdrivers sharpened! 😉

@syniekos 2 года назад

That is a STUNNER of a watch !

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

It's a beauty alright! They don't make them like that anymore...

@steveflor9942 2 года назад

At first glance, I thought "JLC Master Calender". What a beauty! Well worth the care and atttention.

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Thanks Steve! It's a beautiful watch for sure and does indeed look a bit like the JLC au first glance. Which is also a lovely (and expensive!) watch :)

@paulstannard7985 2 года назад

You are an amazing craftsman and I love your commentary....zodiac killer and all 🤣🤣

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Thanks a lot, Paul 😁

@davidhiggs5589 2 года назад

Another great video...can I ask what make and size of tweezers are you using...thanks.

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Thanks David! My tweezers are made by Regine Horology and I bought them through Beco-technic.com. Horotec makes some quite similar ones with bent tips that are a bit easier to come by.

@hockeyrd99 2 года назад

Great work! I've worked on a few Zodiac watches with a gasket in the inside back. Maybe it belongs there?

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Thanks for watching! I don't think this specific watch had any gaskets, which is quite common for old dress watches. Watches intended for more sporty activities or that would say waterproof or water resistant on the case would always have case back gaskets.

@paulnewman11 2 года назад

I’m wondering if the moon phase shifter is geared to lunar time ? 13 months versus 12 calendar months? Interested to hear from you. Brilliant video, thanks

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Hi Paul, thanks for watching! Moon phase complications are generally quite simple, with 59 teeth which are moved one day at a time, and the disc itself having two identical halves. That leads to the moon phase display being completed in 29.5 days, which is a very close approximation to the moon's actual orbit of 29 days, 12 hours and 44 minutes. This is an accuracy that leads to an error of one day off about every three years, which is good enough for most! Loved you in The Sting btw 😁

@PowerControl 2 года назад

What a beautiful watch! Deserved to be restored.

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Thanks for watching! Yes, it's a real beauty :)

@montres1 2 года назад

Great video ! It happens that I own the exact same watch (though in stainless steel rather than gold plated), which suddenly stopped ! And guess what the movement screw had ended into the balance wheel ! Regarding the winding, interestingly enough my watch is also quite hard to wind, so it seems that these 2 issues are quite common on Zodiac's Triple calendars. Did your fix on the crown tube (small polishing + silicone) work well ? Is the watch now easier to wind ? I will definitely keep this video in my favourites to watch it again the day it goes to service ! Thanks again !

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Cleaning/polishing the crown tube and a touch of silicone does help indeed, but heavy winding is very common on vintage watches, as there simply is a bit of wear in the automatic works. For an automatic watch it is always better to let it wind through the automatic works rather than with the crown 👍

@montres1 2 года назад

@@VintageWatchServices Good to know thanks, I tend to privilege the crown winding particularly when I alternate watches and re-put it on my wrist. I will avoid it from now on !

@tracymcknight8978 2 месяца назад

Loved the video. I have a 1960's zodiac manuel wind. It also has the bezel(ring) attached to the crystal. I'm having trouble removing the old crystal from the ring or bezel? Are they glued in? I tried my press but doesn't want to budge. Any thoughts would be appreciated

@VintageWatchServices 2 месяца назад

They're not normally glued in, no, you just have to press it out.

@tracymcknight8978 2 месяца назад

@@VintageWatchServices thank you for the fast reply 🙏

@georgeliquor2931 2 года назад

Beautiful watch by the way

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Thanks, George! 👍

@ronmartin3755 3 месяца назад

Very nice watch and a good video of finding out what is wrong. I have an old Cyma watch that started life as a woman's pocket watch and was made into a Men's wrist watch. The balance is all messed up. Hair spring is not good, not sure about the balance staff or the pivot jewels for the balance. Do you repair watches this old? Thank you.

@VintageWatchServices 3 месяца назад

Hello Ron, I do take on repairs of old watches but I'm extremely busy and have to be very selective. If you can send me a mail with photos of the watch to info@vintagewatchservices.eu, we can discuss there.

@benfoust7424 2 года назад

Gorgeous absolutely gorgeous!

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Thanks, Ben! Wonderful watches were being made back in the day by brands we don't hear so much about anymore... that's what makes vintage watches so exciting :)

@bcfoust 2 года назад

@@VintageWatchServices I have a very vintage watch that I would like you to see. How could I send pictures? It was my Great Uncle's, who passed away in 1943.

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

@@bcfoust You can send them to info@vintagewatchservices.eu

@John-wx9oy Год назад

Pardon if this has been asked already but I have a couple of questions about the unopened barrel. Is it placed in the watch cleaner? If so, should there be a concern about cleaning solution remaining within the barrel? Thank you for your wonderful videos. I just subscribed and am a very new watchmaker hobbyist.

@josefinoflores6562 2 года назад

Nice work 👍😎

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Thanks! More to come, so stay tuned :)

@mattobrien3346 2 года назад

Beautiful watch and movement. Can I ask - is there any cheat to know where each wheel (cog) goes and in which order? I always have trouble with this (normally take lots of pictures)

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Hello Matt, taking a lot of pictures is a very good thing 👍 Sometimes it can be difficult to separate between the wheels even for experience watchmakers, so don't feel bad about that :) In general, the wheels will get smaller ad lighter towards the balance wheel, with smaller pivots, but a couple of the wheels can still look very similar. The most important thing is to be very careful when trying the wheels if you're unsure which one fits where, so you don't break or damage anything.

@geoffquickfall 2 года назад

I noticed it was labelled T SWISS T and that the hands had slits in them. Any reason for not adding lume to the dial and hands? Gorgeous watch and perfect service and explanation as usual!

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Hello Geoff, thanks for that! The dial indeed is labelled T Swiss, indicating the lume is Tritium. Manufacturers did this to ensure buyers that the dial did not have Radium, given the dangers that had become known about Radium. The dial has lume dots at the outer end of the hour markers, but the lume has degraded and darkened quite a bit so it isn't really all that visible. The same goes for the hands, they are also lume-filled but quite dark and degraded.

@richardmcginnis5344 2 года назад

beautiful watch,

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Thanks Richard, thanks for watching and it certainly is :)

@tiberiuvincze8288 2 года назад

Hello, great again, I did not pay attention or I missed something , what kind a movement is this? But a great watch in all ! Thank you!

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Thanks Tiberiu! This is a Zodiac 74 movement, which was a co-developement with Doxa, GP etc, so you'll find identical movements from them.

@ianmedium 2 года назад

Zodiac is such an underrated brand. I have an oval cased Senator with the crown push date change. The finish on the movement is just like this beauty, done to a very high standard. When you think that generally back then these movements would only ever be seen by the watchmaker to me it indicates a certain amount of pride and attention to detail they would go to these lengths knowing only the watchmaker would see the effort involved!

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Hello Ian, underrated also means you can buy them for a more affordable price, so it's not always a bad thing! But I agree, vintage Zodiac's are very nice watches with a great value to cost ratio. I have had a couple of Hermetics myself, but not the Senator, but I believe the movement is built on the same base as this one. So if you get a look inside your watch at some point it should look familiar :)

@Nicholas-V 2 года назад

Unfortunately the newer ones made by the fossil group have a lot of QC issues. My less than 4 month old Super Seawolf stopped winding and needs to go in for service.

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

@@Nicholas-V Ugh, that's a big shame... Fossil isn't really known for high quality products of course, but if they want to run a brand that is, they need to step up indeed.

@Nicholas-V 2 года назад

@@VintageWatchServices It's really unfortunate because I really like the watch design otherwise. It was my go to watch for the weekends. After doing some Googleing it seems that it isn't an uncommon issue with these STP movements. I'm sure they will fix it under warranty but I guess I just have to wind the watch sparingly in the future. Great video BTW.

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

I also watch the @The Time Teller, he just had a video on a new Zodiac that showed some of the same quality issues... very disappointing for a brand with such a legacy (and quite the price tag). ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-c-BG4Jr8gyQ.html

@mywatchventure8875 2 года назад

Great Vid ,

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Thanks!

@upup329 2 года назад

Well done :-)

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Many thanks!

@Bob.martens 2 года назад

What a beauty.

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Got that right, Bob!

@ForestWoodworks 7 месяцев назад

Stian, I finally was able to sneak in an ultrasonic purchase just now while my wife is securing hotel/vehicle reservations this morning to surprise our kids with a Taylor Swift concert next year. Thug life. Anyway, I see you put parts in a jar before placing that in the ultrasonic machine liquid. Can you tell me about that? Is that too conserve the cleaner--only the jar liquid gets contaminated? And or are they two different liquids? Thanks so much for your time! I emailed about the tweezers, but haven't heard back yet.

@VintageWatchServices 7 месяцев назад

Well played, sir! 😂 I use jars with different solutions in them. That way I don't have to constantly refill the basin. For a watch, the parts are so small that filling the entire basin for them is also a waste. You still need to fill the basin with water, of course, to get the ultrasonic waves moving.

@ForestWoodworks 7 месяцев назад

@@VintageWatchServices She found out at 12pm EST about the purchase when checking that the reservations went through... "Hunny?!" lol I figured the jars had to do with getting the most out of the fluids but that's a good point too that it keeps things together. Okay, so you use quite a nice watch cleaning machine and so does another channel. This watchmaker said he used an ultrasonic to clean movements before he could get the actual cleaning machine, but said it's more cumbersome to use an ultrasonic. Couldn't I send movement parts through different stages of cleaner and rinses in the ultrasonic using designated jars? Basically I could have a separate jar for each stage. And I could still put the small parts in the cool little tea sift baskets throughout each stage. Does that sound like it would work to get me reasonable results while I'm just getting started? One last, would the watch cleaning fluids, the ones used in stages in the watch cleaning machines, also work in the ultrasonic machine or could I get away with ultrasonic fluids or dilutions like water/simple green? Or do you have a suggestion there?

@VintageWatchServices 7 месяцев назад

You can use an ultrasonic cleaner for watch parts in the way you describe, but you need to be careful with very think parts and also with the balance. I've never used an ultrasonic for cleaning movements myself but as long as you're careful and do not run the machine for more than a couple of minutes you should be fine.