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THIS CARD IS BUSTED IN STOMPY! Broadside Bombardiers Moon Stompy (Legacy Red Prison MTG) 

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@Zauzzie
@Zauzzie 9 месяцев назад
Giving a group of goblins a cannon has historically always turned out to be a good time.
@Ulubai
@Ulubai 9 месяцев назад
Goblins? Cannons? Mountains? I'm all in baby!
@securatyyy
@securatyyy 9 месяцев назад
Facts
@joshdoughty5211
@joshdoughty5211 9 месяцев назад
In round three opponent couldn’t have bounced the Dryad Arbor because it’s no longer a forest because of blood moon
@dipian
@dipian 9 месяцев назад
You beat me to it.
@TheDartrunner
@TheDartrunner 9 месяцев назад
Good ol' Land Creature - Mountain Dryad that's green and taps for a red.
@jaybelliveau4330
@jaybelliveau4330 9 месяцев назад
"Do the children even know what Plaguewind is anymore?" Lol that hurt my millennial bones.
@fosterdawson7339
@fosterdawson7339 9 месяцев назад
Hey Phil! Small thing in round 3 that probably improves your opinion of Bombardiers even more… if you attack with it first and then play fury in your second Main phase, you can sacrifice it for 7 damage in response to the evoke trigger 🤩🤩🤩
@olafthemoose9413
@olafthemoose9413 9 месяцев назад
He did mention that playpattern but it really dows power the card up by a lot.
@covanentsbane
@covanentsbane 9 месяцев назад
It's incredible how Wizards trying to answer commander player's complaints about red and white needing more tools has radically improved aggro plans in legacy Great video, great card. I'm really impressed with how like, subtly good it is.
@Playingwithproxies
@Playingwithproxies 9 месяцев назад
You mean making damage based strategies good in 4 player 40 life formats broke it in regular games? That’s completely predictable not so incredible
@demiurge2501
@demiurge2501 9 месяцев назад
@@Playingwithproxiesany tool nonblue decks get is a tool I’m here for
@sohpeeah3131
@sohpeeah3131 9 месяцев назад
the recent string of insane cards from commander sets makes me think wizards should put at least a few legacy play testers on their commander design teams (ik they don’t care and won’t but still). initiative, staff of the story teller (bow mastered out of the meta but still), creative technique and now this guy all feel like cards that were never even considered with 1v1 play as an option
@laurelkeeper
@laurelkeeper 9 месяцев назад
I actually don’t mind it-sans initiative, I found those inclusions welcome shakeups to the format.
@TalenLee
@TalenLee 9 месяцев назад
their policy for legacy is that it's just too challenging to balance, and they'd rather just handle it with bans.
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 9 месяцев назад
I think this card is very strong, but acceptable by Legacy standards.
@Locustnism
@Locustnism 9 месяцев назад
For those waiting to build this deck, wait for modern ban of fury on Monday
@duartelopes5223
@duartelopes5223 9 месяцев назад
31:30 had the comic timing of one of your intros, absolutely perfect. This whole league so far is *chef's kiss*
@85mcarnold
@85mcarnold 9 месяцев назад
Step 1: Find your cousin. Step 2: Get your cousin in the cannon. Step 3: Find another cousin.
@Zauzzie
@Zauzzie 9 месяцев назад
I loved the old Goblin Cannoner art flavored text back then was so fun
@nicholasfarrell5981
@nicholasfarrell5981 9 месяцев назад
​@Zauzzie wasn't that Fodder Cannon?
@crucible_of_words
@crucible_of_words 9 месяцев назад
Bombardiers goes along with Fable to just give these monored lists a lot more consistency by filtering out dead draws in one way or another.
@Zauzzie
@Zauzzie 9 месяцев назад
Legendary goblins always synergize
@Red_Mag3
@Red_Mag3 9 месяцев назад
Fable copy Fury, swing, throw Fury copy is so busted
@portalmasterlp453
@portalmasterlp453 9 месяцев назад
Finally, a good use for birgis static ability everybody forgets about
@daneofdanger
@daneofdanger 9 месяцев назад
"You there, boy on the street! What year is it?" --Plague Wind, an Ancient Old Man
@tony.v
@tony.v 9 месяцев назад
I'm so glad this guy showed up from one of your opponents from your mono-red Sneak Attack video. There's so many releases coming out I didn't even know this guy was a thing until that video, and I snap ordered a playset.
@Zauzzie
@Zauzzie 9 месяцев назад
23:55 "Opponent finds Bayou" Opponent finds Mountain*
@SindarinElealar
@SindarinElealar 9 месяцев назад
@28:38 I don't think the opponent COULD bounce the Dryad Arbor since it's not a Forest courtesy of Blood Moon and Quirion Ranger only bounces Forests.
@Gunrogk
@Gunrogk 9 месяцев назад
Blood Moon stoped the Dryad abor bounce.
@Lykrast
@Lykrast 9 месяцев назад
I love it when random cards from the commander sets see play in legacy.
@pokeyclawz8727
@pokeyclawz8727 9 месяцев назад
Watching a deck completely dismantle delver is always a treat
@radiomars3354
@radiomars3354 9 месяцев назад
Looks like a whole Lotta fun to me! Definitely going to test this one!
@derekcline950
@derekcline950 9 месяцев назад
Why not Great Furnace? Turn a land into a Shock. We're already susceptible to Wasteland (and Sol Lands are probably better targets anyway). There is no issue with running one under Bloodmoon. And we will still have some mountains to fetch.
@llamarama6976
@llamarama6976 9 месяцев назад
Only main downside is that alot of decks like to run meltdown as a sidebaord card to answer 8 cast and may board them in to answer trinisphere. Those lands get caught up in that. But aside from that its certainly intresting brew space and pribably better than some of the alternatibe lands
@derekcline950
@derekcline950 9 месяцев назад
@llamarama6976 Hmm. That's a good point. I'm used to Stompy decks nowadays not running too many maindeck lock pieces. I suppose that will change now that Bombardiers can chuck them at face.
@llamarama6976
@llamarama6976 9 месяцев назад
@@derekcline950 specifically opponents like delver like running meltdown so it can be a bit sketchy if they caught uo in that or a reanimators serenity. But i think they have no less of a price than the channel land does. Then again the channel land spirits can be use as ammunition for bonbadiers. Bombadiers is one hell of a creature
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 9 месяцев назад
It's not crazy, but it's not a "strictly better" situation since Wasteland, Meltdown, and friends are a part of the format.
@Psyman2
@Psyman2 9 месяцев назад
5:05 Bully Phil is my favorite Phil :3
@chillaxbro107
@chillaxbro107 9 месяцев назад
I’m sad we didn’t get to see it in this league, but post combat evoke a fury, deal 4 to creatures, throw fury with bombardiers for another 7 is hot
@fel_95
@fel_95 9 месяцев назад
28:25 they couldn't bounce Dryad because it's a Mountain, not a forest!
@craigrgriffin
@craigrgriffin 9 месяцев назад
Mono red. This is the content I'm here for
@Geroaergaroe
@Geroaergaroe 9 месяцев назад
Just wait til you get to try it in Goblin. Goblin matron into this for a goblin grenade is fire.
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 9 месяцев назад
Come back in like 3 hours!
@sy-py
@sy-py 9 месяцев назад
@@ThrabenUniversity I am back!
@nooneatall5612
@nooneatall5612 9 месяцев назад
This being able to fling an evoked Furry seems dirty
@justass3001
@justass3001 9 месяцев назад
Its so wild that this card has haste
@jeremiahgoertz4182
@jeremiahgoertz4182 9 месяцев назад
As a U/W control player, I am not thrilled that this card exists
@robertherlihy917
@robertherlihy917 9 месяцев назад
You know what would really broadside people? Chucking a thought monitor at their face :D. U/R thoughtcast plz
@MemoryLaneWizard
@MemoryLaneWizard 9 месяцев назад
you know it is powerful when it commands a USD50 price tag in Japan
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 9 месяцев назад
It earned that price tag!
@828dub
@828dub 9 месяцев назад
Chalice on 1 -----> concede!
@ahegao4915
@ahegao4915 9 месяцев назад
Wonder if Bombardiers can see any play in Affinity. Flinging Myr Enforcers, Sojourner's Companions, or Thought Monitor for 9 damage seems pretty spicy!
@LibertyMonk
@LibertyMonk 9 месяцев назад
That does seem real spicy.
@noahshanning7014
@noahshanning7014 9 месяцев назад
I want to try it in 8 cast because emry can buy back the monitor every turn for 8 damage. While drawing 2 cards a turn extra
@Red_Mag3
@Red_Mag3 9 месяцев назад
I was thinking affinity when I read CMC was the relevant part.
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 9 месяцев назад
It does seem sweet!
@VivBrodock
@VivBrodock 9 месяцев назад
Hmm 1 mana draw 2 deal 8 damage does seem quite good. Almost worth making 8 cast worse to include it :p (Can also sac arti lands to do a shock in a pinch too)
@wouterdegraef4342
@wouterdegraef4342 9 месяцев назад
Broadside Bombadiers in affinity? yeeting 7 drops also seems fun
@nicholasfarrell5981
@nicholasfarrell5981 9 месяцев назад
^Hire this man!
@thatotherquid3622
@thatotherquid3622 9 месяцев назад
28:33 Its because Dryad Arbor was a Mountain at the time, not a forest
@Eisenwulf666
@Eisenwulf666 9 месяцев назад
Ok, real talk. This card is insane. The amount of shenanigans you can do is not even funny. You could even splash it if your deck can afford a single R. Thank Keranos is just once each turn. It's not so broken it should be banned(at least not in Legacy), let's be real, but it can singlehandedly win you games you have no place winning. That's scary
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 9 месяцев назад
This card is balanced well for Legacy, but boy is it strong!
@Reversespacehippie
@Reversespacehippie 9 месяцев назад
Obligatory algorithmic contribution
@joshuading764
@joshuading764 9 месяцев назад
odds of missing 4 leylines in 5 openers: ~7.8%. rare, but a lot less rare than i expected tbh
@zackpumpkinhead8882
@zackpumpkinhead8882 9 месяцев назад
Imagine a Rakdos list that plays Magus and Depths and then flashbacks Cabal Therapy PHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIL
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 9 месяцев назад
I've tried similar things, and it felt janky...even by my standards.
@ChichimonLeagues
@ChichimonLeagues 9 месяцев назад
Copying broadside and then attacking with both and sacing them to each other is so funny flavorwise. 2 goblins hopping into each others cannons, fuses lit
@xstar001
@xstar001 9 месяцев назад
Dryad arbor with blood moon in play cannot be bounced by quirion rangers. It's no longer a forest.
@henrypayne5879
@henrypayne5879 9 месяцев назад
At the beginning of the video I thought, "Yeah, this card seems pretty strong" and after the video, "This is one of the best 3 drops ever"
@Red_Mag3
@Red_Mag3 9 месяцев назад
You could run a singleton Dark Depths in this shell and activate it by throwing your Magus or Blood Moon ... thats neat
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 9 месяцев назад
Broadside lets you sacrifice a creature or artifact only.
@Red_Mag3
@Red_Mag3 9 месяцев назад
@@ThrabenUniversity ah okay not the blood moon then, only the magus
@chaselewis6534
@chaselewis6534 9 месяцев назад
you did throw a fury once but it was overkill :)
@MrNord-so3yp
@MrNord-so3yp 9 месяцев назад
This card seems hilarious with cost reduced artifacts like thought monitor, turn your 2 or 3 mana draw 2 into 9 damage?!?!
@elijahbuck6499
@elijahbuck6499 9 месяцев назад
I thought that dryad arbor is a mountain and not a forest when blood moon is in play?
@leftysheppey
@leftysheppey 9 месяцев назад
Yeah, you're right. I think he forgot blood moon was in play because they were still casting spells 😂
@rebelresource
@rebelresource 9 месяцев назад
Dryad Arbor Cannot be bounced since it is a mountain not a forest anymore, correct?
@DaAvengerMenace4
@DaAvengerMenace4 9 месяцев назад
What do you think of adding [Great Furnace] as a support for the Bombardiers?
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 9 месяцев назад
It's not crazy, but this is a Wasteland format.
@nicomillhouse
@nicomillhouse 9 месяцев назад
Bomby Stompy
@grnman86
@grnman86 9 месяцев назад
Bruh I started in nemesis. Plague wind was one of my favorite cards besides phyrexian scuta and blazing specter.
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 9 месяцев назад
I love the specters!
@RumpledNutskin
@RumpledNutskin 9 месяцев назад
Broadside plus Fable feels disgusting. That's just extra damage that you can point anywhere for free every turn
@considerthehumbleworm
@considerthehumbleworm 9 месяцев назад
The children, in fact, do not know what plaguewind is. It has the word regenerate on it so you shouldn’t be so surprised.
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 9 месяцев назад
haha, good point!
@nicholasfarrell5981
@nicholasfarrell5981 9 месяцев назад
Attractions are artifacts, right? Asking for . . . well, me.
@Totescolin
@Totescolin 9 месяцев назад
G1R1 wild match!
@dkv_
@dkv_ 9 месяцев назад
40 min league nice
@FlakManiak
@FlakManiak 9 месяцев назад
I'm not trying to downplay Broadside Bombardiers at all, but... What I saw in this video was Chalices and Trinispheres and Blood Moons completely stopping opponents from playing! Every time I watch these red prison decks, I waver in my conviction that I would be a greedy Beanstalk control player... How can I NOT just play Blood Moon?
@RokstarGene
@RokstarGene 9 месяцев назад
Throw Scion of Draco
@freya002YT
@freya002YT 9 месяцев назад
Nice
@nicholasiverson9784
@nicholasiverson9784 9 месяцев назад
I wanna see it in Izzet 8 cast. Fling a thought monitor for 9 damage after drawing 2 cards o.o
@cammcgra
@cammcgra 9 месяцев назад
Is it worth boarding in Emrakul for Round 1 Game 3 against Reanimator, after seeing Show and Tell? Cutting a Fury probably if you went thst route
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 9 месяцев назад
It's a fine thing to do, but it's a dead card in every scenario except when Show and Tell resolves.
@cammcgra
@cammcgra 9 месяцев назад
@@ThrabenUniversity thanks for the reply. Turns out you had the win anyway, and it didn't matter at all
@afrank009
@afrank009 9 месяцев назад
Is the emrakul in the side for show and tell? Mill (via brain freeze)? Both? I'm trying to figure out why it's there
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 9 месяцев назад
Painter's Servant / Grindstone combo is the primary one!
@afrank009
@afrank009 9 месяцев назад
@@ThrabenUniversity ah of course!!!!
@alexanderzharkov7653
@alexanderzharkov7653 9 месяцев назад
Can you make scion of draco deck version?
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 9 месяцев назад
If you want to see it happen: www.thrabenuniversity.com/donationdecklists/
@brandonacevedo5468
@brandonacevedo5468 9 месяцев назад
Hey would you happen to be going to the chicago magic con?
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 9 месяцев назад
I'll be there as a sponsored creator!
@thanhavictus
@thanhavictus 9 месяцев назад
Where would you tier this deck?
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 9 месяцев назад
This build of the deck is new enough that we don't really have data on it, but my guess is either a tier 1 strategy or slightly outside that.
@jtsoltys7527
@jtsoltys7527 9 месяцев назад
After playing with bombardiers, does it change your evaluation of red white vs mono red for eternal weekend?
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 9 месяцев назад
The RW lists are more polished and tested right now. It's the better deck to pick up and play. It's possible that a Bombardiers list *could* be better than RW, but it's so early that the lists aren't tuned. I'd still put my money on RW unless you have a ton of time to test Broadside versions.
@leftysheppey
@leftysheppey 9 месяцев назад
I've done the maths, albeit maybe not well. It looks like you were about 96.6% to draw a leyline on 5 mulligans. But I have a suspicion that my maths is off. I got it as a coinflip on any draw 7
@captaintaco2845
@captaintaco2845 9 месяцев назад
you accidentally did the math for 7 mulligans it’s about 91% for 5 mulligans down to 3
@leftysheppey
@leftysheppey 9 месяцев назад
@@captaintaco2845 I don't think I did. I did (1-(4/60+4/59..4/54))⁵. Work out probability for one of them to be in your opening hand. 1-P would be the probability it's not in your hand, and then multiply by itself 5 times for the 5 hands he drew. Just to explain my working
@howamewsing7311
@howamewsing7311 9 месяцев назад
Can we get a version of this where you're going to 2nd main and flinging a Dreadnaught at an opponent in response to its etb? I personally think it would be funny.
@Syaska
@Syaska 9 месяцев назад
You're throwing it for 3, not 14 though
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 9 месяцев назад
You probably want things like Thought-Monitor to do what you're thinking of here.
@howamewsing7311
@howamewsing7311 9 месяцев назад
Ah, fair. I misread the card.
@howamewsing7311
@howamewsing7311 9 месяцев назад
@@ThrabenUniversity wait, how about a Metalwork Colossus then? It'll be a lot of damage for a small amount of mana, typically, and it recurs itself.
@josephmathes
@josephmathes 9 месяцев назад
Wait what? When did stompy stop meaning mono green aggro?
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 9 месяцев назад
Uhhh maybe a decade ago XD
@zacharyahearn4069
@zacharyahearn4069 9 месяцев назад
Does broadside work with evoke elementals
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 9 месяцев назад
Yup!
@joshuarojas9282
@joshuarojas9282 5 месяцев назад
Can you run this list back?
@LemorasCards
@LemorasCards 9 месяцев назад
ummm ackshually Underworld Breach is the best card printed in Lost Caverns of Ixalan 🤓
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 9 месяцев назад
😂
@HooooodyNiNoYT
@HooooodyNiNoYT 9 месяцев назад
What MU are the null rod for?
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 9 месяцев назад
8 Cast is the big one, but you get splash damage in lots of places like Beseech Storm.
@kiwivogel
@kiwivogel 9 месяцев назад
Plague Wind Imba. Plz nerf
@alexmaragh7766
@alexmaragh7766 9 месяцев назад
It feels like the only good aggro cards come from commander products now
@siosilvar
@siosilvar 9 месяцев назад
aggro cards need to be *insane* to be any good in a 4 player format so yeah that makes sense
@laurelkeeper
@laurelkeeper 9 месяцев назад
Any aggro card that would be good in Legacy would be broken in any other format it got printed into. So yeah.
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 9 месяцев назад
I mean...
@IzidioAlex
@IzidioAlex 9 месяцев назад
How hard is it to get these little guys to fling a Frogmite?
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 9 месяцев назад
Why stop at Frogmite?
@IzidioAlex
@IzidioAlex 9 месяцев назад
@@ThrabenUniversity that's why I love you
@DrackeMaehara
@DrackeMaehara 9 месяцев назад
Please do a painter version :3
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 9 месяцев назад
I don't have Painter in the queue right now, but if you want to change that... www.thrabenuniversity.com/donationdecklists/
@considerthehumbleworm
@considerthehumbleworm 9 месяцев назад
think this is an artifact land kinda deck? blood moon isn’t relevant so wasteland is the only concern really
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 9 месяцев назад
That's not crazy, but it's not like it's strict upside since this is a Wasteland format.
@ajax4709
@ajax4709 9 месяцев назад
I think when you are on 3 already against a 7, you go to 1 if needed to find leyline. It doesnt get much better for you
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 9 месяцев назад
The issue with that is that a Leyline with no lands or follow up threat has no real chance of winning. A lock piece without pressure isn't a recipe for success.
@joshdavis3743
@joshdavis3743 9 месяцев назад
First!
@titos2x
@titos2x 9 месяцев назад
Plague wind was never a good card....
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 9 месяцев назад
I mean, I remember getting blown out by it in the uhhh idk 2010-ish era of EDH.
@titos2x
@titos2x 9 месяцев назад
Thats very specific
@ubertuna1
@ubertuna1 9 месяцев назад
Turn 2 Scion of Draco into turn 3 Bombardier, dealing 6 in combat and another 14 from boast. Seems pretty hot :)
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