amzn.to/43JjIV0 - See current price and stock I tried a 2800w dual motor "fast" electric scooter. This is my first experience on a high power e-scooter.
Hey man big fan my car recently broke down and I'm in need of transportation or I have to quit my job soon I spend $50+ dollars a day on Uber its killing me do you have anything you don't need to help a brother out with transportation for work
Thank you for sharing the video! As an outdoor enthusiast and family person, safety is definitely a top priority for me when it comes to electric scooters. However, I wanted to let you know about a reliable and versatile power solution for your outdoor adventures - the Segway Portable PowerStation Cube Series. It offers a massive capacity, fast recharging, waterproof technology, and uninterrupted power supply. It could be a great addition to your gear collection!
High power scooters are fantastic. Especially when you need to go long distances and get up to traffics speed. A tip I can give is when you’re in dual motor learn towards the handle bars and when you’re breaking, learn back a little. 👍. Another tip for anyone riding on streets is face your feet away from where the cars are parked. If cars are parked on the right side your toes should be facing the left. This is so incase a person swings their door open you can easily tuck your arm to protect your ribs and absorb the hit.
This is very good overall advice for most power "beasts"!!! but my QuickWheel Explorer has a REAL setting to change that in any SPEED MODE on the throttle so no jerking, or JackRabbit take-offs. you have total control that will ease you into the speed so you don't have to lean any certain way to accelerate. but with my (Ti30 Land Breaker), you better lean forward at all times it has that "THROTTLE LAG" on acceleration unless you have it in ECO MODE. there is no "soft launch" it's like a missile which makes that scooter DANGEROUS even with experience. GEAR up and have fun out there folks!!!
Always fun to see someone experience a powerful electric scooter for the first time with an open mind while being cautious and responsible. I've been riding different models for over 3 years and use it for both commute and recreation. Drive defensively and wear safety gear and you'll continue to have a blast!
Well said, I do as well!! So far my Quickwheel Explorer is my favorite out of 8 that I have. ease of use, power, and high quality direct from their manufacturer from the sales agent. But all are great range machines.
Rear foot goes on the back fender for brake leans. There's generally been zero benefit to range when using single motor with other scooters (tested a ton), so just keep it in dual/eco for max mileage. Wolf King GT is available and is about 2x that scooter in power/speed/wtf factor. The dual charge ports aren't for two batteries, it's one pack, the dual ports just allow you to charge quicker using two chargers.
@@ricpowers1475 Well, if that would be the case, there would be no need for a seperate ECO and Dual Motor button. And Dual motor for real doesnt mean anything to range, at least when it comes to higher loads. For sure, when you go super slow with barely any load on the motor, you MIGHT save some power... but how much? With luck 5%, so if you have 5 miles left in the battery... you just gained 0,25 miles, contratulations. Dual Motor scooters should be driven in dual motor setup mainly/always, otherwise you better buy a single motor scooter with lets say a 3000-5000W motor, good enough as well. I am pretty happy with my scooter, bought a single motor 1000W model with small battery so it just weights 21kg and looks like a toy except for the suspension. I have seen enough people in the city paying (high!!!) fees including loss of drivers license for their illegal scooters, and ALL of them were Dual Motor scooters which OBVIOUSLY go beyond 25 km/h, damn i would guess most of them were going beyond 60 km/h easily! My scooter is fast (enough), has plenty of power for uphill (up to 3000W at lower rpm for "short" term and acceleration) yet its limited to legal 20km/h in 1st gear and goes about 35-45km/h depending on battery charge level. I was controlled already a few times, no fees paid, no scooter confiscated, just some warnings because of questionable Add-Ons on my scooter (DIY front lights, speakers and AM/FM/Bluetooth receiver, other random stuff such as a 12-150V DC 600W variable power supply unit for multiple purposes,...) I also thought once about a dual motor scooters. Just a waste of money for most people, except you go daily on the beach (and drive in the sand!), go a lot offroad with limited traction etc.
Around 50mph + is when these scooters become pretty freaking wild. I ridden motor scooters and got the chance to ride a Teverun fighter. The take off and speed was too much fun like no other scooter I’ve ridden. The settings on the scooter were moderate at first so I figure it was decent nothing crazy until I realize it was set on a speed and throttle limiter.
Just an update: I just received mine today and it was not the MS668 Display. It was TF-100, the throttle was pretty responsive. Plenty of torque and so much fun to ride. Thanks for the video input.
I love my Yume Y10. Great to get around not such huge distances. Like max 15 miles here 15 miles there bring your charge. These are awesome summer replacements for single lads like myself. Awesome and well made video bro. Earned a sub.
You are comically honest. Really enjoy your thoughts on this electric scooter experience...:) My first electric scooter was the 72v over 100lb. Kaabo Wolf King. I rode that thing for about 4 miles, and then sold it to a coworker the next week. Made my upgraded Sur Ron seem tame and safe. Great review. Thank you
My first scoot was r1x. 50mph easy chinese type scoot and this old bloke never even rode his mrs let alone a scooter anyway 13 miles later its sitting rotting in his porch moral of the story there powerful dangerous things if your a twat past it to young... if you get me don't buy one but if you do practice somewhere else on the slowest setting possible for at least a week caus I learned hard now I've got my burn e I'm even more careful...to a degree lol
15:49 Not enough gear ! Agreed. That is heavy enough to cause your legs, knees and ankles some horrendous injury on the way down if you crash it... I'm from the EUC world, where armour is even more important (just 1 wheel etc etc) but I wouldn't get on that thing without pretty much the full motoX gearset... thanks for review - very informative and enjoyable to watch...
Huh.... So I am crazy to go up to 60 km/h regularily on my scooter without any gear/protection? I even planned to drive in the summer in trunks only to the bathing pond or so. Regularily is anyways a stretch, mostly 15-35km/h since you lose vision at that speed without a closed helmet :D Just a beginner at those power houses, i have my first "fast" (60 km/h is top speed more or less) scooter since 2 months.
If you want to lock the grips down take them off and spray hair spray on the inside and re-install. The hair spray will dry and be super sticky. Old motorcycle trick. I just recently replaced my mechanicals with some zoom xtech cable actuated hydraulic calipers and they are awesome. Just a straight replacement for the mechanical calipers. Just be sure to bleed them before you put them in to get all the bubbles out of the calipers. They were cheap like $60 Canadian for the pair.
It's an off-brand Zero 10X. I've got one from Envirorides and they call it the R1+. Mine's pretty much the same except it has 1600w motors, Nutt hydraulic brakes, Dunlop bearings and uprated battery. You can fix the speed discrepancy in the 'P' settings, the wheel size will be set wrong. In the P settings you can set the strength of the regen braking, and also whether you want a gradual build of speed or launch control where it dumps the full power to the wheels as soon as you press the throttle.
Alright mate I agree I bought an envirorides r1 same as yourself it was my first ever scooter about a year ago....ive got a different scooter now.....icouldn't believe how rapid was and gets 47 mph ish easy and great acceleration... fully grip the top add some new screws and raised washers if you get me and it totally changes improves the look ...didn't know anything about p settings
@@mrdhunter4238 I had a G2 Pro first, shocks were crap as was power. They let me upgrade to the R1 after 2 weeks of riding round on the G2. Great company. I've fitted a steering damper to it now, reduces handlebar wobble a lot. You got a higher power one now?
@@Pupenhausen yes I've got nami burn e 28ah from ride x glide great company too and nami is absolutely fantastic apart from topspeed wobble but wider handlebars seems to help with wobble and dampener I thought soon as I seen r1 I smiled because it's rapid but opted for nami for numerous reasons only thing I'm trying to change is the thumb throttle for the finger accelerater instead as I like to launch off not gradually..thing to change on your r1 would be rd tyres and slime and your good mate
Hi , just a thought,I have a p1 pro from envirorides too and my mate has the r1 from them also,I think this one in the video is the FF lite but with slightly smaller battery and motors...
If you want the real deal in this category, get the Vsett 10+, the spiritual successor of the zero 10X. Propper hardware, slap a steering dampener on it, have tons of fun.
Add some tire/tube liners (use/cut to fit, some fat tire bicycle tire liners) and add some tire sealer/self wheel balancer product to the innertubes. Like a product called "Ride-On" to prevent blow outs & unbalanced wheel wobble at high speeds.
Modes 1, 2 & 3 are top speed limiting modes...you can change the P settings to decrease the acceleration for a nicer smoother take off (that's pretty much how these generic dual motor scooters work) always ride in dual motor as they share the load, less motor heat and more power efficient. Single motor is only efficient when going really slow (jogging speed or less).
Started out with an UberScoot for the kids (250W with brushed motor and two lead acid batteries in series, $200). They hated it as it had no torque and poor range. So I pulled out the lead acid batteries (which curiously were the same spec as the batteries used in an old uninterrupted power supply I had seen at work being readied for disposal) and replaced with a LiitoKala 24V 6S6P 12AH battery (with BMS & charger) for $70, a new 24V controller ($20), a 350W brushed motor ($35) that perfectly fit in the frame, and a chain tensioner. The upgrade cost me about $130 total and it was a fun afternoon project. Kids loved that Uberscoot, until the Xiaomi M365 Pro and 1S arrived...when they were in their early teens. Funny enough, that Uberscoot, with its fat 10 inch tires and steel frame, handles my stature fairly well (6'1, 230#), although the handlebars are a bit low for me. Runs fine, to this day (after almost 5 years). The Xiaomi's were also a nice buy...though I eventually upgraded the front forks with shock suspensions, lined the tires with anti puncture tape and slime for the tire tubes, upgraded the controllers to Version 3, and boosted them with a custom firmware. They are very nice machines but lack the torque for a person of my stature, specifically on 10-15 degree inclines. Fine for my teenage daughters...but inadequate power for me. Therefore, I bought the KuKirin M4 with a 48V 13AH battery and 500W (nominal)/800W peak motor. For only $440 (Aliexpress) plus $31 import duties, this is a fantastic value, IMHO. It has the power to get me up the hills and I have been able (off road) to take the speed to 45kmph (validated with GPS speed). Range is also good and I've managed 2 hours of continuous riding (modes 1&2) and over 33KM of distance travelled on a full charge (was at 46V when I stopped riding). Given the 500W motor, it's "rode legal" (I also set the Power percentage to 50% in the P menu...note: legal speed limit is 20kmph on roads for escooters where I live...else they require registration/insurance). With its hefty build, 10 inch tires, and both front and rear suspension...the M4 is a comfortable ride. A very nice commuter...but not an off-roader. Basically, we use them for weekend commutes around the Swiss countryside...mostly on bike paths and concrete farm roads...away from 80kmph (45mph) car traffic. Always following bike rules, with helmets, etc. Also convenient for short trips to town, for odds and ends. They are a lot of fun.
Another excellent video. Small diameter wheels have a tendency to wash out around corners in dirt or slippery terrain. That's why dirt bikes have 21" front wheels. Be careful on this thing!
I Have a Widewheel W6 It’s 2000 Watts. Front and Rear Hub Motors. Like 52V 23 Ah Says 40MPH to 40 Mile Range. Depending on Road type, weather, Braking and Stoping Frequently, Single Mode Duel Mode. With Gear 1,2,3 in between. Duel Suspension With Front Disk Break and Rear Oil Brake + EBS. Also available is Optional Seat. It’s Comfortable and has a bit of Suspension Built into the Seat. The Amazon Add you posted shows the Scooter you were riding but no Price tag. Mine like Almost a Year ago was going for $1,400+$100 for the Seat. So $1,500 and Tax. But it’s worth it to me cause it’s my own Electric Transportation. Long Winded Message but worth it to Tell you all the Goodies. I left out a few Surprises for you to find out on your Own. Thanks for sharing.
Dude!!! this is badass scooter!! I will start with the Joyor S5 800 watt that will arrive today. The one change I will make is from tube to solid tires. Tubes are out and who wants to deal with that hassel to change it or walk around with a can of fixAflat in your pocket.NOT... Great review and glad you never bottomed out although you had many opportunities to! 👍🏻 😀
Pure sinewave controllers are also silent or much quieter, though having a boxed signal can be handy for top speeds kinda like the dualtrons etc, they benefit with that iconic sound and a high top speed. Also like this scooter it's faster than you'd think because of the boxy signal
Have sinewave with my new LG battery 250w geared front hub motor, very very quiet, people don't hear it on the level only under heavy load up a hill and then its quiet
As you found out the hard way, Scooter dimensions are designed around the average 5'10" 165 lb person. There is some adjustability in some, but the deck dimensions are what they are. You should give serious consideration to the Dualtron City scooter. Great big wheels compared to everything else. A real quality machine that will give you 45 mph comfortably and in control. All scooters should do away with the small wheels unless they are needed for a specific purpose. Larger wheels are more stable, more comfortable and I think look better. When I see hyper scooters with these tiny little wheels, I laugh. They're silly looking. These should not be confused with kick scooters
The reason the wheels are small is because of lower rolling resistance to increase range. Bigger wheels would bring a better riding experience but reduce the efficiency of the scooter, and the marketing and engineering departments need to hit certain benchmarks to be competitive in their specific product market. A shopper will see the long range/small wheel combo for the same price as a lower range/larger wheel combo and go for the longer range almost every time.
I 100% agree with you, small wheels need to go away, everything about them is more unstable, and they are more easily stopped by small bumps and holes.
come a long way since this review. lol love you trying out faster feature rich escooters. I am riding a 30mph scooter and ran into a few people going 50... and now i am itching for an upgrade
I notice our builds are similar, I’m 210, 6”2 and wear a size 15. What electric scooter would you recommend with the same or near power and range as this one for a place like Phoenix Arizona?
How does it compare to the Segway max g2. I live in Phoenix Az and my main worry is overheating which a lot of reviews for the g2 says it does. Is that the case for this one?
No experience, just bought Dragon Raptor it's almost exactly the same but tyre. Mine one has no tube. I did a test ride today, and it's cool speed, so I need to find more safety gear. Great video 👍
I have scooter, but I rarely use it since I have bike. I think scooters are really cool if you have a disability that prevents you from cycling or you absolutely cannot arrive sweaty at the work. Personally I have had office and customer service jobs and this has never been issue. Overall, I think it's pretty niche. That said they can work really well for stuff like delivery jobs. And bikes just have many other advantages like being able to handle various terrain and actually providing workout. Especially if you are busy person, turning the commute into workout is really nice. And I would argue it makes you more energetic at work and home.
since when does having a disability mean you ride an e scooter or being sweaty arriving too work ? relax it’s not that deep you just like too bike more which is fine you don’t have too talk down on e scooters they are the convenience of the world literally
I have a high powered Scooter by Beaster, and I have all the same handlebar interface except the turn signals and light. Makes me think that's it either the same company or they source from the same supplier for handler bar attachments.
mechanical brakes on a 40mph scooter sounds bad. when i had a 40mph scooter the turbowheel lightning it had hydraulic brakes which you can stop very quickly.
As an overweight person, when I decided I wanted a scooter, I did a thorough research and decided on Yakasuma Cheetah. This bad boy has 1600W engine on both wheels, making it a total of 3200 and up to 5600 with turbo. When fully charged, there is no surface or incline it can't carry me on. It's an absolute beast of a machine and I once did 70 kph (45 mph) and it felt like if I pushed more it could have gone faster but I started feeling tremors and it freaked the living daylights out of me so I slowed down. The book says it can go up to 95 kph (60 mph) and has a range up to 100 km (62 miles). It supposedly can climb 60 degrees (never tested that steep), and can carry up to 200 kg (440 lbs). It weighs 35 kg (78 lbs). It is my first scooter. I bought it with love, and I'm riding it with love. I have no intention of changing it. I could, down the line, have it painted. It has some parts painted in red which I'm not totally vibing. But besides that, it's mine for life!
Your forearm is going to wear down very fast and start to burn with your dashboard/throttle placement. I know this is your first ride. You are going to want to adjust the throttle so it is almost even with the handlebar on the other side where your finger naturally would rest. The more you have to tilt your hand up the faster it is going to wear out on you and your muscles start burning. Also, you mentioned your foot space.lead with your left foot up near the front of the deck and actually kick your back foot up on the footrest over the mudguard on your back wheel. You want to be in a ninja stance nice and comfortable so you can bend your knees as you roll over different terrain. You will have electronic brake assist in your P-settings so look up how to adjust your P-settings on the dashboard and you will find the setting to adjust brake assist, usually from 0-5. DO NOT TRY A HIGH SETTING ON YOUR BRAKE ASSIST TO START. It can be extremely powerful and when you pull the brakes you will just feel the mechanical engage but then the electronic brakes will grab and almost throw you over the handlebars. It takes some serious getting used to and I actually mostly ride with that on zero. When you are riding at speeds and you are getting ready to brake your scooter you will want to lower your butt down and kind of pulll back on your handlebars. This lowers your center of gravity and allows for the smoothest stop. Obviously the motion of your body will want to continue going forward when you break so bending your knees and lowering your your center of gravity will work in keep your body in the perfect position for a stop. Once you do it you will see it becomes naturally comfortable.
I have the P1 2.0 45mph on flat easy l..55 down hill..mad fast and launch control..back of legs ached for days until i got the seat..now its pure fun...minimum aches..
this is a great scooter!! but i would look into solar scooters if you haven't already they are a British company (also ship out of the us) and they take these scooters from China but they throw all there own tech into them and they are really next gen i have a solar FF lite and its basically this scooter but with higher handle bars finger print reader (that's if you chose to have it or the base model has a key but still a custom lcd display) hydraulic breaks and duel 1600w motors 60v with sign wave controllers so really smooth not twitchy at all but still accelerates FAST they also make the scooter very efficient and quiet and with a 50mph top speed and a whole lot more upgrades like a better folding lock and batteries and a steering damper they really are not badly priced either around $1900 or $2000 for the finger print model I'm just a customer but man do they have some good scooters :) plus a little tip always stay in 2WD because you're actually draining your battery just as much as using two batteries as the rear has to push harder and uses more amps i would recommend learning throttle control as that's really important with scooters of this power its like a car you're not always flooring it but just keep riding it just takes time but you'll be zipping in no time
Tip if you want to get a onewheel I would save far a xr since the wheel and grips are a lot bigger and that helped me a lot compared to the pint x has smaller grips and wheel so it’s more easy to turn but hard to stay on and fall of and that’s why I recommend the xr
My neighbor collects scrap metal. He had a solar FF 2.0 in the back of his truck $40 bucks just a chassis and wheel motors dual drive bought a bunch of parts from China battery controller brakes, 72 V that things is a monster
I just bought a Kaboo mantis I’m also 6’5 no matter how much I adjust them they still feel short like you said unfortunately these aren’t made for people our size
The prices for scooters are absolutely absurd. I legit wish people would just for one day not buy anything because it would knock prices of EVERYTHING down, Literally, that's no joke all it would take to set prices back would just be one day of nobody buying one single solitary thing. Prices of everything today is outrageous but specifically scooters.
@@user-hr2oi6jd7m lol you can just about get a decent regular bike for 1000. An electric scooter will cost way more to manufacture than a bike, so 1000 really isn't that much at all.
My first scooter was a Gyrocopter flash 3.0 with a 350W motor in the front and I had it for less than two weeks before I upgraded to a Apollo ghost 2022 with 1100 W dual motors. Range:60km Speed: gear1 25km/h gear2 40km/h gear3 60km/h But I weigh about 220lbs so I’ve only gotten it to 55 km/h
Those cheap dual motor scooters - usually have crappy square wave controllers and it's best to ride them using the gears instead of the throttle. You can break out the up/down gears onto a separate switch control and place that on your bars instead of using the horrible membrane switches. Doing that completely changes the rides - much more control e.t.c.
@@Chris-ev6bu You need to take apart the display and wire up a external 2 switch - it's not easy - hard to get a decent 2 switch for the handle bars, and you've got be able to trace the switches on the display boaard and figure out where to wire the new switch in. It's worth it tho - completely changes the ride.
just go eco or turbo and switch on gear modes... but switching to a single motor might damage one of its controllers especially on heavier riders. i have an electric scooter for almost 3 years now and i don't have any issue of it ever since.
@@JuicedJoyrides it is ok to switch while moving but its about taking the load. 1 controller will suffer a lot if you use single motor at your weight. we're almost the same weight by the way. 😅... just use eco and lower gear if you want to cruise at a lower speed. dual motor means each controller taking half of the load/rider's weight. controller is more prone to malfunction than the motor so better take good care of the inside of the scooter. 48volts - 52volts dual hub motor e-scooters are good to always run in dual mode. unless you have a more powerful one that you need to tame like 60volts, 72, or 80volts e-scooters.
ive done about 1500 kms riding mostly fine gravel bike paths. wipeouts over 40kph really hurt. wear a full face visored helmet like a motorcycle helmet so you dont take a bug to the face, panic swipe at your face, end up in speed wobble cause you took your hand off the steering , panic regrab the handle bars and jam on the brakes thereby launching yourself over the scooter (it stops immediately, you dont...) in a very violent forced somersault, head smashing piroet and then body slam onto the ground.
This looks awfully similar to the KCloud V7 I have. The torque was so ridiculous on it that I had to add a seat. Top end about 85Kph but I keep it at 50 which gives me about an hours ride time. A lot of fun ... if you don't mind no skin on elbows and knees :) And broken finger. The flight was great but the landing could have been more graceful.
It's under 1k USD. TBF many other dual motors around 3megawatts are 3 times that. Comparatively it's cheap. How about that? Hehe. That being said these are for young men, not really for say a typical guy over 30 unless an active athlete.
As long as it lasts you... just got a Nami Klima about a month ago, and I really like it a lot... How long to fully charge? For me, i like to go super fast on mine, so my range eats ballsack sandwhiches.. MY advice is to set all settings on max and activate the turbo and then have a blast!!!
I just bought one rhat does 68moh tops from zoodon and its like 2500$ lol ive neen saving but finally bought it and im excited. My ebike hits 35 tops but downhill mostly, so usually 30moh amywhere. I need something faster for some roads having a 45 speed limit here (on the way to walmart)
I think the speedometer shows different than your GPS is because your P settings may be off. I don't exactly recall, I think it was P06, your tire diameter settings (could be different on yours, check it in the book), has to match with what is installed. Normally GPS will have a +/- 5 room for error because the satellite up there can't tell whether you're going uphill/downhill or on a straight path so it shows your bird's-eye view speed. But the difference was too much, which is why I believe you need to have your P settings checked.
I would HIGHLY recommend this scooter! I’ve had mine for 4 days now and have already put 77 Miles on it. This thing is wicked fast for the price. I’m not as heavy as the rider in this video and have hit 44MPH on flat ground! The 60 mile range could be possible if you’re babying the absolute crap out of it but let’s be honest who’s buying this thing to baby it. If you’re beating the piss out of it you can still see 35-37 miles. The LEOOUT SX10 is the BEST electric scooter on the market for your money.. hands down ✅
I'm about to buy this scooter, and after some google research, I can't find a review and how good the brand is. I'm a college student, and want to see if this scooter is reliable or not.
Man, thanks I might get one.. still looking. But I don't have enough to get what I really want. I just need decent speed(30+mph), decent distance(30+ miles), and getting to get the highest ip rating I can get.. or a way is feasible for me to up the ip..
The only teat I want to see in reviews of these things is what happens if you let go of one handlebar (maybe to scratch your nose). Do this at low speed to ensure you don't die from the massive speed-wobble I got when I unknowingly did this on the one and only scooter I've ever purchased (and returned).
idk if you're serious or not but in case you are, the best stance for you is sideways, leading with your dominant foot and use that tail to give you more stability at high speeds and tight bends. All the best!