Completely illegal and does not even have pedals. At least if you build a traditional looking powerful electric bike you can pretend you are pedalling and blend in with other cyclists. This is basically a moped that will get you pulled over and you'll end up with 6 points + fine.
You got mysub just because how much you made me laugh when you was acting cool sitting on the bike and then loosing your balance ending up on the floor so glad you didn't cut that out 😅😊😂
Apart from the olympic park / private land - I don't think there is anywhere where you can legally ride this bike... So setting it up as commuting solution is a little bit deceptive. Although I love the idea of something like this eventually being useable. I've wanted an electric scooter for a while, but still waiting on the laws to change.
@@KevBoughen and if it is classed as a motorbike, it’ll need to be taxed, insured and registered with a number plate etc. And L plates if you haven’t passed the bike test.
Basically this guy is trying to sell something in the UK which is not legal on public roads and he is basically spewing shit from his mouth. Not much good for somebody 6'5 and 120 kg.
@@Docksidestudio1 looking at it it should be shouldn't it after all it's no real different to a monkey bike. Personally I wouldn't risk getting one until this grey area is cleared up, just cause it's electric doesn't make it somehow safer on the streets than petrol powered.
It'll be around the same price as a used motorcycle, and close a new pre-made ebike with less or near the amount of power compared to customizing it to your liking/needs.
Looks like a really cool platform to mod and customize. The only thing I can see from this brief glimpse of the bike is maybe move the foot pegs forward on the frame for a more comfortable riding position. That and secondly an adjustable seat.
It is not an e-Bike as it has no bicycling mechanism, it should require a motorcycle driving license and damage insurance( E-Scooter allows you to kick for power :-)
I like that it is marketed as an e scooter, not trying to masquerade as a bicycle. Very cool, reminds me of the mini bikes we used to ride as kids, with old flathead engines from lawn mowers, this is so much more useful and functional.
Love it, but is is so obviously illegal, you wouldn't even need to be stopped by a cop with knowledge. We need the laws changing. They need to release a on the road license moped version. Why even offer 250w with no pedal and a throttle it doesn't remotely comply with current laws. Wonder how hard it would be to get it through msva test and how much insurance would be.
@@Tresla i think they should be treated differently, upto abut 1kw, USA has a sensiable implementation imo with there 3 classes. but my point is at the moment these arent legal and any cop could spot that from a 100m away, unlike a ebike with pedals that is just over the wattage.
Nice! I made a bike like this years ago, welded up a frame and added a petrol engine , go kart clutch etc... I have a spare 1500w hub and 2 48v 10Ah batteries and have been thinking of using the hub as a power source using the disc mount to mount a sprocket then through a gear system. future project :)
I have owned 2 different fiidos models in London for like the past 2-3 years. So happy with the d4s that I brought another just recently. This looks pretty cool too.
5000w motor that’s a LIE!!! the motor wouldn't even fit in side of the wheel an if it would, than the burnouts would be epic! This is a 500w motor but because of small 16” wheels and high voltage it has a lot of power. The scooter looks cute and I want one...
Yep, no way this motor was designed to sustain anywhere near 5000W. Looks about the size of a 500W planetary geared hub motor. 5000W lol... Just inflating the power by a factor o 10X is not really a lie lol!
I had my first fall off my e-scooter today (wearing my helmet of course!)! I was only stationary and reversing sideways on the pavement (like repositioning it to cross over) thankfully, but it was a good one.. And I thought I was going to get away with never having a fall, lol the hubris..
I have the fiido d3s and pot holes are dangerous with little wheels even at moderate speeds of 16mph. I built a proper mountain bike conversion within a couple of months and it is far safer.
A slightly better? than a stand-up escooter? Hardly. A 26+" wheels are safer.💡☝️❗⚡⚡.Be carefull❗⚠️ I ride the VSETT8+ SOLID TIRES. Dangerous always have to watch for potholes & twigs...etc. Although it is fun & fast enough. Only electric mountain bike is better with dual drive wheels.✅🇨🇦🇭🇺👽🆒😎
@@rexluminus9867 yeah it's the pot holes and twigs etc I have to watch out for with the little wheels. On s smooth surface they are fine but in in Yorkshire so not much smooth about lol. 26 inch wheels with full suspension is another world in comparison and my latest bike has 27.5 inch 2.5 tyres, 160 travel suspension and is a beast off road.
@@FlyingFun. Great Nigel. That's a nice suspension travel. Full suspension MTB is also my favored one. I'd like it with dual motors someday. The VSETT8+ with dual motors switched on is fast ~40Km! At that speed the wind resistance gets noticable.Quite a hill climber.Smaller wheels go faster.Be safe & healthy
@@rexluminus9867 vset8 plus looks good and not ridiculous price either, for commuting a scooter makes more sense if you dont have somewhere to store a bike both ends. The big problem with ebikes is security, cant really take it in shops etc and dare not leave it outside even with multiple locks for long. Wind resistance is a killer for the range once you get over 15 to 20mph in my experience with the ebikes, if I sit at 30mph range is easily halved compared to an average of 10 to 15mph.
hope you got this electric motor bike MOTed, registered, fitted a number plate and have insurance or you will be hit with lot of driving offences. And don't forget suitable motorcycle helmet and clothing.
Apart from the olympic park / private land - I don't think there is anywhere where you can legally ride this bike... So setting it up as commuting solution is a little bit deceptive. Although I love the idea of something like this eventually being useable.
A scooter that looks like an E bike, more confusion for the cops, another loophole to travel at 65 kph with no restrictions, wow the E revolution is here to stay!
So its an Electric Motor Bike NOT an Ebike. An Ebike(legal that is) has pedals and you have to be pedalling to make it go, when you stop pedaling the electric motor stops. some models do have a throttle but that is supposed to be walking pace only so that you can get off and push it up very steep hills. If you have an older model Ebike you can have a throttle but only if its been converted from an ordinary bike(retrofitted). Also there is a 25 kph(15.5 MPH) max speed under power, so that when you exceed that speed the motor automatically cuts out and no longer gives you any assistance. To Legally ride The above Electric Motor Bike on the road. You would need a number plate, indicators, an MOT and insurance. The MOT is almost impossible to get as its classed as a special and would need DVLA approval(which you wont get lol). You could of course ride it on private land BUT only with the owners permission, You certainly can't ride it to work. P.S. I am only stating the legal position, I would love to fit a 1000watt motor on my own Ebike, especially as I have a trailer, BUT i don't want my Bike confiscated and the huge fine and points on my licence if I was stopped, Yes that's right points on my licence because an oversize motor makes it an uninsured motorbike.
I would love this bike, I really like the speed. I wish the other fiido models had the same speed as this. This would be awesome to ride 2 miles just to go to work.
Totally illegal to use on any public roads or pavements in the uk unless registered as a motor bike, road tax, insurance and the appropriate vehicle licence held. The police have the power to confiscate and destroy the bike, apply a fine of £600 and three points on your vehicle licence.
Whats exactly is the point of this ? Its completely illegal to use in public places, It will get taken by the police and you will get a large fine . PET clearly are not responsible they just want to make money !
Ya at least in USA and Canada, it's gotta have working peddles to be considered a legal ebike. I guess if the power was upgraded to keep up with traffic it would kinda be like an electric moped???
@@APPLEPIE978 Thanks man. 👍 It's the same here in the UK too unfortunately. And anything over 250w becomes an issue too. So it's all great bringing these machines to the market but where do the manufactures expect their customers to use them if we're all still governed by significantly out dated transport laws? Shame. Looked great. TBH though I still prefer me a Super73 or similar. Awesome. 😎👌
@@crazylikeafox7290 The manufacturers don't "expect" anything, other than to sell them and make money. If you're foolish enough to buy something that's not legal to use, then that's down to you, not the company who made it. The law as it stands has been fine for 100 years. You only want it changing because you bought something that is illegal to use, and you now want to use it. You'd need hugely expensive insurance cover to ride around on something like this. If you cleaned someone up on the pavement, and they were injured and spent time off work, they could sue you for thousands. Lost income, stress, the injury itself. It's a minefield.
@@Brian-om2hh Easy, easy, Brian. I only asked a question and like MANY keyboard warriors you've gone full throttle attack. Yes, I have a E-Scooter which I use sensibly and frequent and not ONCE have I been pulled by the police or been a danger/menace to the public. And the second Insurance becomes available I'll buy it, regardless of cost. Also, "I'm foolish enough to buy something that's illegal"....but it's fine for the govenment to charge VAT/profit on those illegal items? And the UK law on a number of things, not just transport, is both VERY outdated and biased (try having a fair divorce in the UK - that's a joy to behold!). This country on a number of things is slowly but very surely going down the sh*tter and it's us.....well, people like you, that are allowing it to happen.
Yeah it goes too fast and is even illegal under the moped classification so closest it comes to is a motorbike which this one doesn't go fast enough to go on the freeway for but it would only be allowed on car roads no bike lanes
in order for it to be classed as a bicycle in the uk it has to have pedals, under our current laws this would be classed as a moped, in which it would need a frame number and a reg plate , insurance and m.o.t ect, so not really an option here as its defeating the objective, i would be careful, what you video yourself doing, as its illegal to ride that on our roads
I agree. I think he meant 500W nominal. More than 2000W through through that tiny motor and the risk of frying it would be considerable IMHO. I could certainly see this take 750W, maybe even 1000W reliably. 5000W would be enough to take you over 100 km/h. Yet this thing seem to top out at around 60 km/h.
@@superted2552 You are wrong. But I'm sure you really know that. It doesn't meet EAPC rules. It's effectively a moped and would need to be registered, taxed, insured etc
@@Alan-xxxxxx No, a moped would, by definition, have pedals. This is a motor vehicle, which would need to be registered with the DVLA, taxed and insured, to be legal to use on a public road, or indeed any public space.
@@superted2552 Nope, it's a motor vehicle in the eyes of the law, just the same as a kid's motorbike, or a ride on lawnmower. Illegal to use on the road....
This might at a stretch be able to pass the certification to be an AM moped and ridden on a CBT, but then it could only have a top speed of 28mph. To go 40mph you'd need an A1 motorcycle license, and the safety standards for those are higher and no way this could pass them.
@@Sur-Ron Sur-ron's website says their road legal version is classed as a moped up to 30mph, have you done extra work to get the higher classification?
It also needs to be registered with the DVLA in the UK, just like any other motor vehicle. It would also need lighting equipment, plus an MOT certificate if appropriate.
The small size of it clearly indicates a lot of uncomfortable riders steering away from it including couriers because it’s no doubt too small to feel comfortable and safe as in noticeable to other road users while riding this wee no doubt really cool looking ebike but it’s simply too small to be accepted on roads without being pulled over and most likely fined by the police, ebikes which are of normal bike size are here to stay and be accepted on the roads either if road illegal or not as the police generally won’t back-an-eye if your riding at no faster than 20/25mph then it’s not a hazard nor a hazard if you’re easily noticeable to other road users as this is clearly a big consideration everyone who rides on the road thinks about due to the obviousness about not being seen then suddenly being hit because well like I said already if you’re on a bike which is too small then it’s more difficult to notice and makes the rider difficult to see especially in busy city’s which is where ebikes dominate
Punctuations are too valuable to use on RU-vid comments I agree so thanks for splurging and giving us the one comma because I haven't seen one for a long time being so small and hard to see not being used often it's like people don't bother to even separate any thoughts and just let the comment keep going like every thought that comes up out of their heads without putting in any pauses or breaks to make it any easier to read when you're on the toilet bowl so long that the seat leaves those really deep red marks on your bum and you've forgotten to replace the toilet paper just leaving the old tube on the tube with with one square like that Seinfeld episode as if that's going to do anything but there you are and so you turn your sock inside out even though it was the one you got for your nineteenth birthday party from you grandma Sally whose dead now even bough she never smoked cigarettes got cancer from the third husband who was always smoking way too much like three packs a day of those Camels with no filters that look cool AF but you know are just a burning chemical binkie so might as well put a gun in your mouth am I right holy shit what the fuck did she put in my drink I'm like starting to passssss ouuuuutttttttt............................
Make a bike with forks or fenders that have the batteries in them that sit lower than the axles, and you instantly boost stability beyond any other electric bike.
@@truetech4158 How you gonna put battery's below the axle genius? 😅 Are you aware the axles are just about the lowest point on the machine 🤡 only the bottom portion of the wheels is lower to the ground, LET'S HERE IT MR PHYSICS
@@ianmangham4570 you behave like you really have to struggle with physics to make sense of it. You willfully overlook the distance between the axles and the ground, why?
Sonny, u left out other crucial elements we all want to know. : It's km range on a full charge : How many hours to charge the battery : Does the battery need to be drained flat each time before re-charging : What is it's maximum gradient when climbing hills : How does it perform driving on grass and gravel : Can a larger battery with more volts & amps fit into the housing of the frame
Excellent points of interest. I would think that passing the wrong cop on the road (if you don't have an operator's license and proper gear to make it street legal) you can kiss that thing (and the £1000 you spent on it) goodbye.
Dude…think of this as a platform to stick on it the battery , controllers , motors and brakes that YOU WANT… and make it go as far and fast as you would like
Good info. For me ebike without full suspension is non starter. Especially for heavy one. Vibrations will shatter it into pieces in long term use. I like this one but would not ride it fast. Looks dangerous for fast rides. I like small dimensions too.
Hello brv.... I have the T18 but fried a chip or something on the Battery pack. Accidentally plugged wrong charger in. Anything you can do to help pls ..... I've spoke to them at PET already
True just like the bolt and bolt pro, but at the same time their frames can't compare to this one. You can easily fit 2 pretty decent batteries or 1 big battery with good amps. Not to mention there isn't suspension on any of these whatsoever and it's uncomfortable it what I call "riding a camel" this q1 seems to look like it has some suspension. Also upgrading those bikes are a bit limited compared to this one shown.
@ 5:52, you said '... nice and legal..". It depends what you meant by 'legal'. As it is, this bike is not legal on British roads. For it to be legal as an ebike, it needs to be able to be manpowered as well, ie it must have pedals. For it to be legal as a motor bike, it must pass all the legal requirements of a motorised vehicle.
"if I had £10k to spend on this bike..." Say what now?! You'd spend that much on this bike alone 🤯 If I were going to spend £10k, it'd be on an ICE 🐒 bike, an e-bike, an e-scooter and then I'd have loads of change leftover for upgrades on all 3... But that's just me 🤫
No, it's technically a Cat A1 motorcycle but it fails to meet the construction and use regulations. Even if it did, you'd need a motorcycle licence to ride it legally.
The future of urban commuting is very exciting. When I retire in twenty years I can only imagine what is going to be available on the market. Perhaps we will have batteries with 1,000+ km on one charge. I see myself driving around on a ebike or escooter for my daily errands when I'm an old guy.
The cops in London will be on you straight away once they notice the lack of cycling pedals. I'm 6' so the un-adjustable saddle seems more suitable to much shorter riders. Dodgy welding points on the non-suspension models will definitely result in issues. Finally, do massive amounts of research before purchasing anything. Sounds like this one won't be cheap and reliability is questionable until proven otherwise.
Nearly 3 thousand pounds why buy that when you could get a second hand 600cc motorcycle. The prices are way to high still for a small bike . Yes electric bike's are good for going around town etc but not everyone lives in London. I mean I haven't got a spare 2800 pounds. Although they look fun I'll give it a miss for another 2 years before I buy. Or maybe wait longer until battery technology gives us endless range there's lots of new battery technology coming soon that I'll start being used. Especially if they can use nuclear waste and make battery's that last for 10 years without charging that wouldbe crazy.
A 5000w motor barely hitting 40mph? Something is terribly wrong with the performance of your bike. My 12" 1200w rear hub motor with two 48v Batteries also hit 40mph max.
Looks very uncomfortable. Handle bars are way too low to the ground. My electric scooter goes faster than this. Misleading title. Looks like a pocket rocket.
Looks good but I am also gonna be that guy and point out that this is going to hurt the electric rideables community. These are not legal in most western markets and it doesn't matter to the resellers. It can so easily give negative publicity to the overall industry. I know in Australia a tiny "bicycle" that does 60kph but is advertised as being able to take it on public transport and ride it without any form of safety standard wherever you want? Not very responsible.
I have had a fiido d1 for nearly 2years and it has heped me so much . cost me £360 delivered. does 17mph full throttle, which is more than enough for round town. Also i hate to be "that guy" but the GOV really need to do something about making it LEGAL to use a higher power bike / scooter. enen if that does mean a cheap road tax and insurance.
Pointless unless you are going to register it as a moped / motorcycle. A few more years and scooter manufacturers will be building safe road legal versions of these. If it was a bit bigger and had pedals like the super 73 it would be easier to get away with riding it.
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That q1 be fun to ride. But in Washington, USA, it's not an ebike because it doesn't have pedals and it's not a motorized kick scooter because it's not designed to stand on. It's not a moped because it doesn't have mirrors, tail lights, turn signal. Not street legal. Our electric scooters are supposed to be limited to 20mph. But people don't follow that rule. I have 2 kugoo m4 pros - 26mph and a 49cc - 33mph. I seen a vssett 10+ - 40 or 50mph?. Seen a kaabo - 50mph.
i just got one of these little babies in Manila, Philippines (at a shop called Pro Scooter).. i got the Fiido Q1s (which has way better suspension/Shock Absorbers). i actually came to pay off and pick up a stand up scooter (Dual Motor power muththa'fu#ka) and i saw the Fiido Q1s.. and went hmmmmmm.. asked questions, and gradually switched over.. So, some of the things that they allowed me to do in this shop (at an extra cost - of course), that helped that switchover decision.. where upgrades that make this "Scooter" more powerful... First i got a longer seat put on it (like yours in this video).. and asked to have an ignition switch installed (to turn it on with a key).. Then the most important upgrade was putting in a more powerful BATTERY.. it gives this little badboy way more torque, speed (around 40 to 45 mph.. with me on it - i'm about 200 lbs, 5ft 11).. and the battery last way longer.. Did my first test (after 2 rainy days in Manila).. and i'm very happy with it.. it Climbs hills really cool.. just found that out coming from an underground parking lot.. and it speeds down the street. At first i was being super careful, but i'm getting more use to how it rides now, and i can see myself being a super freak on it.. GET A HELMET Before you got nuts on it. I would like to add, 2 things i had problems with (out the box).. First, the way it accelerates when you hit the throttle (its herky jerky), and trying to adjust to that.. when i told the Shop owner.. he said "oh, use this app".. and transferred an app to my phone. That App made all the difference in the world.. you are able to calibrate "Fast Start" & "Slow Start" settings that make the throttle acceleration more smoother (i had a similar problem with my Wide Wheel Pro scooter, and had to order a whole different throttle to make that issue go away)... The other little issue is sometimes the bike.. oops "Scooter" tends to want to pop a wheely.. and i have to be careful not to sit to far back on the seat when i'm starting off.. other than that.. This thing is a beast (with the battery upgrade) .. The brakes are GREAT.. & i love that there are brakes for both tires.. I added an aftermarket headlight on the handle bars that has 800 Lumens, it came with a tail light, but i don't do much night riding, i'm not sure that's so safe, with how small this thing is.. it might be hard to be seen).. But this is going to be one of my new best friends.. Searching for a Lock for it (the one that came with it is a joke).. Any suggestions???
Has about as much character as a laser printer. Platforms like this just reminds me of how lack of innovation the Chinese city that makes much of the lead-battery e-bikes were for decades and refuses to innovate still. If Honda didn't scream at them for a U-GO, if Gogoro didn't laughs at China and makes their own Gogoro, if NIU didn't try to inch away from the old clunky garbage--we'd all be using the same shit as three decades ago. Don't encourage the bunch of e-bike manufactures (all stuck in the same Chinese city) in their lack of innovation. If you want to do a Xiaomi play and slap your sticker on whatever this city exports--and have their shit break on consumers as soon as a couple of months--sure. When it comes to bicycle frames: Japan is 10 years ahead of Taiwan, Taiwan is ten years ahead of China. And bespoke bikes in UK more on the Japan-/Taiwan- spectrum out of their desire to make things with love. China's factory is essentially the last choice for bicycle makers in manufacturing quality bicycles, why would it be your first choice for e-bikes? You are going faster with the same noggin. Wouldn't you want some more safety? Personally, and I know no one is asking me, I wouldn't main with Chinese bicycle frames for a main bicycle. And I definitely couldn't see myself in Chinese e-bikes after working for an importer and seeing what they are actually made of and the lack of love going into their components.
IT NEEDS PEDALS! GODDDDD. Literally the only benefit of being a ebike is having pedals and being a legal loophole of having more than 750watt power but limiting it and being a electric moped you can take anywhere.
Mr electrohead, you keep describing batteries as : 60V, 36V. But A battery is about KW aka AMPS X Voltage = KW I feel its very misleading and leads to future confusion of people repeating it without understanding what that means. By being clear youd educated people, but by saying things like '' it was a 60V battery'' shouldnt be a thing when youre called electroheads. Dont mean to come off as harash, but its sad how no one understands batteries, and your comments just make it worse
Look at all the comments here ! Almost everybody here is naive enough to believe this is really a 5000W ebike. People, wake up! This is a 500W motor, not 5000W. It might be able to take 1000W peak at most. NOWHERE NEAR 2000W, let alone 5000W !
You cant pedal it. Its not a bike. There are plenty of superior Ebikes out there. ANdI wouldnt call that foldable. Big deal. You can fold down the handlebars. My forler, folds in the middle and the handlebars fold. You can pedal it if you run out of "juice". If this dumb thing goes dead, then what?? PUSH! It looks like it weighs a ton. Not impressed.
