This FAKE Omega Worldtimer is SHOCKINGLY close | What are the RED FLAGS? 

two things: design takes a lot more work than to copy. and make a watch that lasts for decades is not as easy as a watch that will last 2 years.

You think a top end rep will last for 2 years? Copium…

@@nuggyfresh6430 how long will it last in your expertise?

@@DecemberNamesi have replicas which are now 18 years old, never had a service and still run.

yeah I heard the real brands have margins of up to 20x the manufacturing costs.

Thank you!

It’s a beautiful watch. I’m in shock too. I actually held and tried on a real one today because I happened to be at an AD today ordering a new watch. It’s absolutely worth what they ask for it.

I did notice something was off about the escapement but I was 100% sure so I didn’t point it out. I stuck with the things pretty much anyone could spot.

This is what is great about Omegas from the later 2000's and on: the co-axial escapement. For better or worse, it is a 100% replica tell. Even a Rolex 3135 still uses a swiss lever escapement, making it easier to clone. But I am aware of no one who has ever attempted to reproduce a co-axial escapement... because it is a colossal pia to do, and the Chinese Rep manufacturers still haven't figured out how to, at all, let alone in a cost effective way. Legend has it that the only reason they are so good at the standard swiss movements is because ETA supposedly at one point have some Chinese factories manufacturing their movements, though I have not personally tracked down evidence to verify that claim.

Any chance I can send you a picture of the back of a worldtimer to see if you can tell whether its the co-axial escapement? Would be a huge help. Thank you.

Very good information! Thank you for sharing.

Any chance I can send you a picture of the back of a worldtimer to see if you can tell whether its the co-axial escapement? Would be a huge help. Thank you.

@@anthonykim11 you can certainly post a link to a youtube vid or imgur and I can look

This is what I was thinking - the Rolex Cosmograph Daytona Platinum is running well over $100k USD on the secondary market. Would I wear this watch everywhere? Probably not. I would be slow to surrender one of those versus a super clone costing less than $2k. I'd part with the super clone and wish the new owner well vs. getting into a serious security situation where my wife would tell me to quit being stupid and hand over the watch.

Clone or real the issue of theft remains. A platinum Rolex goes for 100k on the secondary market, but that's one that is completely legit, with box and papers. A stolen one will be much harder to move and won't even sell for half the price, most likely it will go for about 10-20% its market value. The famous Rapper Pop Smoke was murdered for his Rolex, a watch that retailed for over $30k that the killers sold for a measly $2,000.. and that was during the height of the rolex craze. Not all robberies end in both parties walking away, if you're really concerned about it then simply don't buy them at all. A shiny bauble really isn't worth dying over.

For people like me 😂

There's a market for even the least popular watches. Hell they even make Cellini replicas.

Where can i get this

Have you compared it next to the real watch?

Where did you bought it?

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Hola qué tal podría hablar contigo sobre la réplica?Te lo agradecía..Un saludo..Carlo.

Yeah they are btween 700-1000$ per piece .. which is good price for clone watch

Scary out there with these clones.

Obviously there were limits since I did not have the real watch to make a direct comparison. I did try a real one at an AD after making the video and I thought it was a striking piece.

Any chance I can send you a picture of the back of a worldtimer to see if you can tell whether its the co-axial escapement? Would be a huge help. Thank you.

Yup. When you get to certain level of watch, it just makes sense to go to reputable AD. Even reputable grey market dealer would be fine as well.

I can see your point. I think homages exist to fill a gap for those who simply can’t afford the luxury watch that they desire. Even you can afford the watch, you can’t simply walk into the store and walk out with one (specifically taking about Rolex). Although totally legal, homages seem like a grey area where folks can get a taste of the real thing. After buying my gevril, I have not purchased another homage. There are so many original watches out there but I understand the appeal.

​@@TheTimekeeper Ya legality aside, I wasn't taking a stance on the replica or homage market, nor was I attempting to admonish the consumers of either. I simply wanted to point out that there is little difference between the two. Homages do indeed often serve as a gateway to the watches they are based on in a sort of "try before you buy" way. They amusingly often serve as advertising material for the bigger brands and actually lead to profit for those brands. As for loss of business, I feel that is a contrived and inaccurate argument: I defy you to find even one person that was in earnest going to buy a high end watch, and then decided to by an homage instead because it was a better value, resulting in a loss of sale. So when it comes to homages, while I personally prefer to either buy the original watch or find other, more unique pieces, I have no moral or ethical issues with homages as I see no harm and an actual benefit. But my main point is, everything I just said about homages... is true about replicas as well. Again, I know of not one person who was on their way to the Omega store to buy a watch, and then decided to buy a replica from a local street vender instead... someone who can and wants to buy an Omega is going to buy an Omega. They may buy they rep first, but they will eventually buy the Omega. And anyone who never ends up buying an Omega was never going to buy it anyway, replica availability notwithstanding. And I have my own admittedly anecdotal story to support this: I was never a watch guy. I always had a watch, but knew nothing about them... until I got the opportunity to inspect a very high end Replica Seamaster. I was fascinated with how close it was to the real thing, and in watching a comparison video on that same replica watch vs the real one, I became fascinated with automatic movements and watches in general. My obsession with watches started because of a replica, and eventually led to me finally obtaining a real Seamaster, and having it serviced directly at Omega. In the irony of all ironies, an illegal, unlicensed replica Omega led to profit for Omega.

those replicas are created to cheat homages are for people who can't afford Rolex or Omega or even Seiko but want to check how any given watch looks on their wrist also those homages are great base for modding !! Myself, I wouldn't touch SKX but with some homage watch ? why not to change bezel or diar or movement or all at once !?

@@Tom_Kowalczuk "those replicas are created to cheat" ... I need to you qualify that statement. What exactly do you mean, and how does that differ from an homage? "homages are for people who can't afford Rolex or Omega or even Seiko..." Everything else you say after this point is also true of replicas. I still fail to see any distinction between the two, on the consumer level. A replica is also for people who can't afford a Rolex or Omega. A replica also can be a base for modding, and even frankensteining (mixing replica with OEM parts).

Wearing a replica is pretending to wear the real thing. Wearing a homage is not. To me, this is a very big difference. A can afford the real thing and I have purchased original Omegas, Rolex, etc, but I also have come across original designs where I thought that the original was not worth buying, compared to the homage. So, I don’t agree with your opinion at all.

I tried on the real one at an AD and it felt about the same.

The watch feels a little heavy. I saw someone wrote the gen is lighter.

I would say it’s unusual. Maybe you have really acute hearing. Have you seen if someone else can hear it?

@@TheTimekeeper yes others can hear it if the watch is put to their ear. Is it not normal for this model?

@@TheTimekeeper It's been running to the exact second for 5+ days now, could I assume this is real? It's definitely not a quartz and I can't imagine some cheaper dressed up replacement would run this accurately...

@@daddyskaddy94 That is truly exceptional. I bought a brand new Breitling Navitimer that gains 2 seconds daily. It meets COSC standards, but I was a little surprised a $9.6k watch ran fast. At the same time, I'd always prefer running a little fast over running a little slow, and if I measure it with the watch accuracy app on my phone, it performs differently depending on the position (face up, face down, 12 up, 3 up, 6 up, 9 up). All are within -2 +5. You need to cherish that watch!!

Do you wear the fake one and keep the real one safe at home? It’s hard for me to justify spending almost $9000 for any watch. I try and wait to see what happens in the secondary market but I haven’t seen this watch for under $6000.

@@TheTimekeeper Obviously I didn't buy it for that. I bought it because I was intrigued by this situation, I wanted to see for myself the quality of this type of watches. In fact, the one I bought no longer has the regulator, it is a much more exact replica. My conclusion was that it is not worth spending so many thousands of dollars just for better engravings and almost 10% timing accuracy. I like watches, but I am also very critical when it comes to analyzing what I spend my money on.

I meant no disrespect but I’ve heard of folks wearing super clone Rolex’s and not really wearing the real ones out and about with less paranoia. It’s controversial to say the least. I’ve been at watch meet ups, and the subject of fake watches came up and one person was bold enough to say that anybody owning a fake watch, should be arrested. I don’t agree with that and from what I’ve seen owning a super clone is completely legal.

@@TheTimekeeper I understand, it is a complicated topic, I suppose that if what you are looking for is the history and innovation of the watchmaking company, an authentic watch is the best option, but if what you are looking for is good functioning, design, basically a watch that does the job, which is what I'm looking for in this model, then a super clone is the best for you, in the end the big watch houses get rich by inflating the prices of pieces that aren't really worth it, and I guess that's fine, that's how it works. capitalism, China is releasing its own brands with better calibers at very affordable prices, it will be interesting what will happen to the watch market in the future. Greetings and excellent video, it makes us think about how the watch market really works

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They certainly could make a really nice original watch for sure.

Why spend all the money on marketing for brand recognition when these brands not only spend millions on marketing but have literally over a hundred years of history and recognition. For crooks it's a win-win scenario.

That's exactly why they do it. It takes time and money to build up a brand.

I sometimes wonder if they will eventually pitch themselves as overseas manufacturers to one of the big watch brands where they can show them they can make an identical watch for a fraction of what it costs them in Switzerland or wherever.

This is beginning to happen in the bicycling world. The Chinese manufacturers who literally make all the carbon fibre frames and wheels, save only two French brands who make everything themselves, are making their own brands with what is measurably better quality than the name brands spec for their frames. The whole bicycle world could be turned upside down as more consumers get educated on the inherent quality of the Chinese brands over the European brands. Hambini has a great RU-vid channel calling out the sad state of the Euro brands and their failure to make decent quality frames and wheels.

I honestly don’t know.

That’s seems like the current market price. I would like at the balance wheel and look for the lever to adjust the watch’s accuracy. I pointed it out in the video.

@@TheTimekeeper Yea I checked it doesn't look like it was present, was 6800 including overnight shipping

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They told me it was like $700.

@@TheTimekeeper Ah, one of those. My supplier even sell omega copies that are 2,5k+, such as the snoopy 50th anniversary, and being 2022 , aaa copies, but at that point i dont understand why you would buy a copy with no warranties or anything. Even 2,5k is alot for a watch Incase it break 😬

I wouldn’t recommend buying these watches.

Can you even build a replica of this watch for $70 even with dirt poor labour costs? I find that claim highly unlikely.

@@sharinglungs3226 Not sure why my answers here are getting deleted but yes you can. Obviously you can tell if you look closely on the earth in the middle as it's not laser engraved but from just a meters distance it's hard to tell it's a copy and automatic too. Can not share link here it seems as it makes my answer disappear.

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Probably costs a lot more than $100 for the legitimate ones. We’re talking several hours to assemble and test from a skilled craftsman. My guess is probably closer to $1k.

Labor costs are different. I'm sure the Chinese workers work in sweatshops for 14 hours and get paid $10 a day. The Swiss workers get $35 and hour plus benefits.

@@the.hamel.mammal7802 but to the average consumer in the west they don’t really care. Let’s be honest, none of us are free from unethical consumption, there’s some parts of what you buy being made by unethical labour. Even Hamilton’s and tissots sources parts that they can from China while maintaining the 60% threshold for Swiss made designation mandated by the Swiss gov.

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@@TheTimekeeper I'm really hoping seiko puts out a really really nice day date with a presidential band

@@TheTimekeeper I really like the orient day date, I've always wanted one. I see nice vintage ones on utube all the time. In my opinion the orient looks the most like a rolex from 5 foot away. You mite find this hard to believe but the watch I wear the most is my seiko Day date jubilee

@@petehamada7073 orient makes a mean watch for the money. No argument there.

@@TheTimekeeper yeap....... I want one

I know right.