This Has to Be the WILDEST EPISODE of Bridgerton Yet | Queen Charlotte Spinoff EP 5 Reaction 🤯 

To be Devils Advocate for Lady Danbury: The woman literally just got out of an intense bout of marital SA and hasn't felt the affection of a loving man in literal YEARS. If she wants to slam it down big style with granddaddy Bridgerton , let her. I support womans rights and womens wrongs. 😭

Re the Lady Danbury affair. I don’t believe it has to do with her being with someone attractive. It never actually was. It’s the way he made her feel and how tender he was with her after this horrific marriage she had and all the unhappiness that involved. Attraction is a very very weird, subjective matter. Queen Charlotte’s quote on love 🥺🙌🏻

I actually loved the Lady Danbury/Lord Ledger storyline. I didn't think it was for shock value at all. Violet's mother was awful, and I think Danbury & Ledger both truly did find something in one another. If his circumstances had been different, I believe they would have married. It's tragic, but beautiful, IMO.

Violet: I think I want to start dating again. Every man in a 5 mile radius: I VOLUNTEER!

From Anthony opening tree scene in ep 1 with Siena to Violet this episode, footman John has been through a lot 😂

In reference to Lady Danbury’s “affair” with Lord Ledger, I think expectations for romantic love are different. Being loved by someone doesn’t have to be a great love. It can be what you need in that moment. What she needed in that moment was a man who saw her and allowed her to just be. It’s uncomplicated and while it may not be George and Charlotte, it was enough to make her feel loved. At that moment, she also didn’t know she would become friends with Violet. Was she supposed to say, “Girl, I can’t be friends with you because when I was younger I banged your dad while he was still married to your racist mom!”?

I think the fans are pretty evenly split between how we feel about Lady Danbury and Lord Ledger. Some were mad because it’s Violet’s dad or thought he was too old for her (and unattractive) and some were 100% behind it. I’m not gonna lie, I will just support Lady Danbury doing whatever as long as she’s happy because I just love her and think she deserves to be happy. So I didn’t have a problem with the two of them hooking up at all. If anything I wish the way it was presented and developed was a bit different but hey that’s what Ao3 is for 😂

I think lady Danbury needed to feel loved! Not a committed relationship, but how to feel loved, and have a tender moment with someone who knows how to make her feel special; even if it’s for a moment! Yes it is messy, but she needed an outlet, and lord Ledger was it!

I was too damn happy when Charlotte got fed up and went to see George and stopped that torturous cycle he was subjected to live in and also with Lord Ledger and Lady Danbury I could've lived without that

IMO, Violet's dad was the rebound guy Lady Danbury needed in that moment. He listened, got her mind off of her grieving for a bit and she realized in the sex scene that she does have power and took her power.

IMHO, Lord Ledger isn't Agatha's great love. He was kind and supportive, and listened to her opinions -- which is likely why the sex was good if he had that same attitude. But they had to have concluded that they were better off friends and left it at that, because they knew there was no way it could be something real. She saw how he poured all this caring into Violet, and not his wife, and as she grew up Agatha came to value her friendship as an extension of her trust with her father. I can totally see her having a fun, illicit years-long booty-call relationship with Charlotte's brother though. Lady Danbury will have travelled and seen parts of the world later, as she was free to do so as a widow with her children older -- meeting players and being a girlboss, but also experiencing love on her own terms.

Your reaction to Anthony’s honeymoon being mentioned. Same girl. Same 🥳

I honestly didn’t mind the Lady D storyline because I never considered Ledger to be the great love she was talking about in S2. I don’t think they were in love with each other. They both just had terrible partners and kinda trauma bonded over it. Glad our good sis got her cheeks clapped the right way though! Would love to see another mini series with Lady D as the lead and maybe explore an actual love story. Can’t wait for episode 6!

Honestly I'm not mad at all about Lady Danbury and Violet's dad's relationship. Violet's mom was a bitch the whole time they showed her and Lady Danbury wouldn't have known she would have a friendship with Violet in the future. So I don't see it as a bad thing

I am probably in the minority but I love Lady Danbury’s love affair with Violet’s father. He is younger and better looking than her husband was. He is a gentle, kind man who respects her and thinks she’s wonderful. I think that is just what she needs after years of being dismissed and treated as a breeder. Plus, he doesn’t seem like the type to run around having affairs. There’s a sweetness between them that i can’t help but love.

I honestly loved the storyline of Violet being horny. So far we've seen so much about her still grieving her husband that I was very pleasantly surprised by the prospect of her maybe having a love interest in S3, especially as a middle-aged woman. That's really not something I expected this show to do and I hope they go through with it. I mean, she doesn't have to find her new great love, but her accepting that she can have fun and a love life after her husband's death would be amazing. Regarding the Lady Danbury/Lord Ledger situation, when they first met I naively thought that they were going to become friends, which would have been so wholesome (and I always want more strong platonic relationships betweens men and women in stories, there aren't enough), so yeah, that turn of events had me surprised lol. I can see were Agatha was coming from, as he was very kind to her and actually listened to what she had to say. He treated her like a human being, and after that marriage, I understand why she would've been attracted to him. However I still think he was a weird choice, considering that Agatha later befriends his daughter. I also wasn't a big fan of having him cheat on his wife and having Agatha be the "other woman". I don't HATE the whole thing, but I think there would've been other ways to go.

personally, I loved Lady Danbury and Lord Ledge. I don't know, maybe it's because, for the first time in her life, a man sees her and doesn't just see someone to SA. They form a bond and you see them care about each other plus, ITS MESSSSSYYYYYY I love mess and your 20s are for being messy lol AND its her finally getting to CHOOSE who she sleeps with (plus, Lord Ledger was kinda sexy TO ME)

I think that’s what this show is showing. That life is and marriage is not always rainbows and butterflies just like in real life. I didn’t mind lady Danbury and lord ledger having an affair. He wasn’t happy and she was never happy with her husband and they understood each other but knew it couldn’t be anything more that what is was. What I liked About QC is that it is more realistic. So no I don’t think they did lady danbury dirty. She is who she is because of her past just like the queen and just like all of us. The trials We go through in life are shaping our future self. I think shonda did a great job.

I honestly liked the Lady Danbury storyline (and I know you haven't seen how the Violet side is resolved yet so I won't say anything about that!) but it was just nice to see her with a man who cared about her, it was so sweet that he made her a birthday hat, he was just a lovely person and she deserved to spend a bit of time with someone who was kind and interested in her as a person. The fact that he's older and not like a supermodel is whatever to me because I think what she actually got from her connection with him is a lot more valuable tbh. Good for her! (Also not a massive fan of Charlotte's brother lol he's good looking but that's it)

I think Agatha’s affair with lord ledger is in line with her character arc. We know in the future she ends up essentially alone. So whoever she fell in love with it would not be able to work out ultimately. But also, I think Agatha is a character who has had lots of losses. This is another loss, in a way. She becomes socially powerful because she seems to end up investing in that, her social life rather than her love life. I wonder if in some ways this arc shows us why she becomes herself. But also think of what we know about lord ledger… caught in a loveless marriage with a woman he detests. Focused on the true love of his life, his daughter, but not a satisfying love of his own. Both of them have this in common… sad loveless marriages. I can see why they would secretly bond over telling truths about their situations that would be socially unacceptable elsewhere. But also, they both have a lot to admire in one another. Agatha is developing into a strong self determined beautiful young woman and ledger seems to want similar opportunities for his daughter. Anyway, everyone shies away from a cheating story but I bet it was pretty common in those days when people were expected to solve the problem of a loveless marriage with a satisfying affair. Otherwise, in a different time, ledger could have divorced his wife and found love.

You're not alone, I also wanted to reach through the screen and kill that monster 😅

I think so much of this show is love in unexpected places, like Lady Danbury didn’t intend to fall in love with Violet’s dad-just like Brimsley and Reynolds, just like Daphne and Simon, and so many others. Yes the age difference is a little uncomfortable, but also remember she was married to someone vastly older, so that may just be her comfort zone. He was so kind to her and really listened to her, which was a complete 180 from her husband, that’s why she was so attracted to him, and because he’s a good man, he ended things with her and went back to his wife and family. Sigh. It’s all so sad, but it kind of launches Lady Danbury into her next stage of life, and quite frankly, her power.

The fan consensus is that we were here for Lady Danbury and Lord Ledger mainly because he was the antithesis of her husband. Plus, his wife was racist af and liked to belittle Lady Danbury. And even if you didn't personally find him appealing lmao I thought it was hot because he was kind and patient with her and they spent quality time talking with each other before anything even happened. I also really like his voice for some reason, it really does something for me. There are people who think there was a considerable age difference but I would assume that Agatha was in her mid to late twenties and that Lord Ledger was likely in his late thirties or early forties so it wasn't like she was 19 and he was 50 lol

The way you put your fists up at 17:53 like you were going to fight the doctor 😂 I never thought I would be pro beheading but here we are

If we ever get to the Hyacinth and Gareth storylines, can you imagine if they find out that her grandfather and his grandma hooked up? Like Gareth didn’t have enough familial trauma and drama

I loved Lady Danbury and Lord Ledger😭😭🖤

I honestly don't know why the Lady Danbury and Lord Ledger storyline is such a big problem, besides the fact that he was married. She wasn't friends with Violet at the time and I don't think physical appearances are good enough criteria to determine whether a love story is good or not. I actually think their relationship was well developed, however brief it may have been. It was good for her and it felt real and honest while it lasted.

I don’t know why, but I get the feeling Lord Ledger isn’t the great love Lady Danbury mentioned in S2. Which is why I think we need a story just for her. I get the sense she had more going on with other people later in life. Edit: Also to add, I rewatched what Lady D says in S2, and all she says is “I have loved.” It’s not singular or specific in any way, which could mean he could have been her first experience at love but most-likely not the last.

I think that, given the circumstances and time period, I don't have a problem with Lady Danbury and Violet's dad. While we don't know their exact ages at the time of the affair, Agatha was probably in her late twenties and Violet a young teenager (I think it's stated by her mother that she wasn't "out" yet?). So, that puts Lord Ledger in his early 40's? Definitely younger than LD's late husband. I actually like that he isn't the stereotypical "hot" leading man, as that implies that LD liked/loved him for more than his looks (which is admirable). And I feel for LL...his wife was atrocious.

i can’t lie i liked lady danbury and lord ledger and i think he’s kinda fine 😭 also i didn’t think he was that old he looks like middle aged.

Re Agatha and Violet storyline, I think I get/accept it a little more. Indulge me in a bit of hypothetical math. Lets say their age gap is 15. So in Charlotte era V is 15 and A is a young widow of 30. Lord Ledger is a middle aged 50 something (although the actor looks older but, whatevaa). In the Bridgerton era V will know of this secret scandal of A's just as she is discovering other forms of love. She has only known "the one true love" until now and thats what she has passed on to Daphne and Anthony. But now her garden is reblooming in real time.. and A shared how her's never bloomed through marriage but after (I think her words were "Herman rots inside me"..) All these other experiences of "love" seem like a revelation to her in her 50s. Also the Queen's retort to her idea about love resulting in marriage and the contrast of Charlotte's love being based on choosing to love, not choosing the object of love. Crucially, she is in the same age group her father was when he strayed. She probably remembers her mom being a disagreeable racist .. not sharing the intellect or sensitivity/tenderness of her father. And so she is primed at this time more than any other time in her life to "get" Lady Danbury and Lord Ledger's affair. She is learning about other forms of love.. non monogamous or garden reblooming types.. whatever you might call. Plus their friendship comes after.. much after the affair.. not before /during. So I dont see why V should hold it agaist A. Admittedly the weakest of all storylines but still, I'm for it, if it gives Lady Danbury her due.

i have been SO excited for you to find out about Lady Danburys love! I am asking you to rewatch the scene where Violet and Agatha are talking in the church about the birthday hats. BROKE my heart in a million pieces!!!!! Agatha Danbury likes older men, so what?? Whatever gets you off am i right?

Characters don’t have to be “attractive” to have wonderful love stories. Ledger was kind and thoughtful and could see Agatha was her own person. I think we are all assuming a lot about Danbury’s story as well. She is still very young in this series, she has a whole life to live before we see her in Bridgerton. More love to experience as well

I’m ok with lady danbury getting it on with violet’s dad. They are friends but they are not peers. She’s much older than Violet and deserves the love of a lovely person. Looks are not everything.

That lord Ledger situation is not a big scene ..... as Shonda said someone like Violet had a good dad.. and therefore he had to have this one flaw that is not really a flaw cause his wife was a racist.. and Violet and Lady Danbury loved him for different reasons, so why would that taint their friendship if anything it explains why Lady Danbury cared about knowing the bridgertons

I dont understand how some people don't find lord ledger attractive?? He's literally Anthony but slightly older 😍 I was a little sad and shocked at your reaction to the affair i don't understand why people are so against it, he's nice and caring and attractive - yeah he's violets dad but personally don't see that as an issue, agatha is a grown woman and owed nothing to violet at the time since they didn't even know one another - it was after s1 of bridgerton when they became friends right?

Hot take here. For Lady D. it was only natural to keep eye on the dauther of the man she cared about. I don't think she and Violet are especially close friends. But after this they can be because they are getting to know and understand each other as actual humans outside of conventions of the ton.

10:30 Wait, so you don't like the Danbury/Ledger thing because you think he's not hot enough? He's intelligent, kind, and caring (and IRL, FWIW, he looks pretty damn good), and I think all those things make him very sexy.

Oh this episode drove me insane (but I won’t lie I was with lady Danbury the entire time 😭)

The same way you are upset over Lord Ledger and Lady Danbury is the way Violet's kids will show out if she tries to get her garden watered. Many children don't actually want their parents' to have their own lives. The sons especially want her to stay in her lane - DOWAGER Viscountess Bridgerton. They won't accept anyone replacing their father.

I suppose my wondering is whether Violet would have made her love match and insisted on her children all having love matches if she hadn't had the example of her parents' bad marriage. No doubt her father is the one who allowed her to make a love-match when it was her time to marry, because he knew all the misery of an unhappy match that was only based on rank or wealth or fleeting lust. The Ton's marriage market certainly wouldn't teach anyone to prioritize love over all other considerations. (Though, I mean, this is Romance Novel land and nobody ends up truly marrying into poverty for love tbh they either have a wildly lucrative career thanks to their talents or a surprise inheritance and I'm not MAD I'd love either or both options personally please and thank you God save me from capitalism but also let me buy nice stuff I want.) Edit: also idk if it's because I'm asexual or what but the whole Lady Danbury & Lord Ledger thing just kind of washed over me and it...it's fine. Their romance serves them and their characters and their storyline and that's enough for me. Not every romance has to be a once in a lifetime thing; and I always thought Lady Danbury enjoyed more than one lover in her widowhood--I feel like Lord L is just the first and therefore a very fond memory. And this isn't meant to be antagonistic or anything but if we can celebrate older women's sexuality then Lord Ledger's age/attractiveness gets a pass, too. I know gender means women particularly are sidelined once they move beyond the strictest possible standards of conventional attractiveness BUT making room for diversity in romance to me means every body and its consensual pleasures gets to be cheered for. And I know the scene is framed for Lady D's pleasure, primarily; but Lord L clearly craved a connection, too. Obviously he doesn't seem the sort to force himself on his wife the way Lord Danbury did, so if his marriage is on the rocks, he's probably gone years without sex or companionship at this point unless he's availing himself of sex workers. (No shame if he is; but he's such a family man I don't see HIM thinking that's an acceptable thing, and there's still shades of exploitation about it give his wealth and privilege. An open connection to a woman matching his own status and freely being with him of her own will and for no other motive may be something he's never known.)

AAAAAAHHH so excited to watch this daria!!!

HARD disagree on Lady danbury. Sorrows, sorrows, prayers lol. I loved it, i thought they both were what the other needed and it was brief and it's sad but I still think it's beautiful. Just because he isn't some ideal attractive man like simon or anthony doesn't mean he doesn't have value or doesn't deserve love. Anyway, i loved their little story I thought it made sense

I liked lady Danbury and lord ledger together. Violets mother was a racist. And lord Danbury was a selfish jerk who abused his wife. What Agatha found with lord ledger was a kind, patient man who cared about her and listened to what she had to say. That kind of man has appeal beyond the physical even though I don’t think he was unattractive. I never had any interest in lady Danbury with adolphus simply based on how he treated his sister. What charlotte wanted, how she felt didn’t matter. She was a tool to help him maintain power, status & protection for his country. I didn’t see him treating Agatha any differently.

So excited for this!

Love your reactions! My feelings exactly re Lady Danbury and Lord Ledger!

"Watch me not cry" oh, girl, you got a storm coming 😂😂😂

I am mixed with Lady Danbury’s affair. Don’t get me wrong, I hate affairs and how they are glamorized. Narratively, I like how it is written. Bear with me. Both she and Violet’s father are in the same position. They were both trapped in abusive marriages. Lord Danbury (the husband) just used Lady Danbury as a sex bag whenever he wanted and never cared about her happiness. He wouldn’t even let her speak. Violet’s dad is quiet with his wife because they cannot agree and I think he wants to avoid a fight. He feels comfortable chatting with Violet more. They can be themselves around each other whereas the wife is bigoted and conservative. Violet’s governess has to warn Violet to hold her tongue out of worry that she may upset her mom or the ton. It made sense Lady Danbury loved Violet’s dad. He was the only one who treated her as a person and willing to talk with her instead of being a racist pig. They had some things in common. I feel in the end, they woke each other up and could not help how they felt. Spoilers for next episode: him arriving with violet was his subtle way of saying, we made a mistake and can’t be with each other any more. I really don’t think Lady Danbury was trying to hurt Violet.

"so I will be ignoring that thought..." ME 2 😩

I'm a bit torn about the Lady Danbury/Lord Ledger story line. Though it is messy (I'm looking forward to your thoughts on how they wrap it up), I think its a good example of how relationships are complicated and intertwine in unexpected ways especially in the ton an insular society which is undergoing so much change at this time. Lord Ledger may not be a young conventionally "hot" dreamboat but he is a generally good man. It was him who started the dance at the ball with Lady Danbury when no one else would intermingle. He respected her and saw her in a way that no one else had. He didn't have expectations of who or how she should be. She could just exist with him. They also had the connection of both having horrible spouses who they had no affection or emotional connection to. Them being drawn to each other makes sense within that context. That said the age difference definitely makes me...eh. I also have thoughts about this story line being a connection between Lady Danbury and Violet and how it plays into their relationship and who Lady Danbury is as an individual but it is vaguely spoiler-y so I'll save that for the last video if I remember!

i loved agatha and lord ledger idk i thought they were cute 😂

I have been waiting for your reaction videos to see how you'd react to Charlotte saving George in the end of episode 5. Istg

Just thought it’s worth telling you I tend to skip through most reaction videos to get to the best bits. With yours I don’t; I watch it all the way through. Have a good day!

I really wanted Lady Danbury (who I love) to be with Queen Charlotte's brother too! I kind of get her affair with Charlotte's dad in terms of having someone who is established in the "old world" take interest in her for her mind and spirit, that validation and care she hasn't gotten, if that makes sense?

I actually shipped Lady Danbury and Lord Ledger 🤭 They had great chemistry

If the babies playing with Violet in that short clip were in fact not Kanthony's babies, that means Daphne had a second child. I wonder if we'll see Daphne and Simon's babies even tho Rege and Phoebe arent on the show anymore .🤔

Felt the same about the Lord Ledger thing. SAME. WHYYY. NO.

I’m ok with Lady D having a “ fling” with lord Ledger but I’m saddened if he was that one “ great love” because I think she deserved better. Also when she got with lord Legldger Violet was young and she wasn’t her friend then. And in present day she doesn’t really owe Violet any explanations.

I also love them bringing in Violets "blooming desires", but then again, it's Shonda Rhimes, and since I'm currently rewatching select parts of Grey's Anatomy and Private Practice, I'm not really surprised. But the Lord Ledger storyline... Yeah not my fave 😅

my 2 cents on Agatha / Lord Ledger: I had the same initial reaction as you (but he's your best FRIEND's dad!). I do have a huge kink for age gaps and I still find it slightly off. mostly because of the fact that she did become friends with Violet and never told her (40+years!) I like the dad - he's cool, chill and kind. and, just to be clear, he liked her. it was not like she fell madly in love with him or something. no, he liked her, she felt desired for the first time ever and she said "why the hell not?". I am sure she kept very fond memories of him because, in a way, he was her first. her first actually desirable sexual partner. so I get what is happening. on the other hand, I am a bit pissed. episode 1, when he invited her to dance, I found it to be a great gesture of "us" and "them" being able to co-exist happily. but, at the back of my mind, I was thinking "I hope they don't make this into more of a story". it kinda ruined his gesture from ep.1 for me :/ they are still an age gap couple (10-15 years, perhaps) and I still liked that but there is a bit of yuck in there with the yum for me, for sure.

Gotta admit, I was most upsept about Lady Danbury and Lord Ledger 'cause I was out here shipping Lady Danbury and Violet a lil and this whole thing has made it awkward lol

Yeah, I don't really know how to feel about Lady Danbury and Lord Ledger. And this wasn't in the book. They go straight to her being courted by Charlotte's brother. Also, the other lab animals were freed, right? PomPom freed them?

Also can we talk about how Anthony inherited his seduction techniques from his grandfather 💀

Your reactions are 🔥 (also, I had to skip the flash forward Violet/Lady Danbury. That stuff felt so forced and awkward.)

I also wasn't a fan of Lady Danbury's affair, mostly because I felt like she deserved much better than this short thing.. or maybe it was me who just expected more after the build-up, like I wanted more build-up in her relationship with the now-not-so-mystery-man, not just build-up in the mystery of his identity. And I suspected that it will probably end tragically, but I wanted to experience rooting for this relationship. I don't know, maybe I just wanted it to be a longer storyline.

GIRLLLLLL your reaction to Violet mentioning Kanthony was ME!!!! I NEED THEM SO BADLY!!!!! Have you been keeping up with all the tidbits of them in s3?!

I really enjoy all your Bridgerton videos. I have only one criticism and I don't mean it in a mean or troll way. I listen to your videos with ear buds and when you shout from excitement/surprise/etc, it hurts my ears because the sound gets super loud. Other than that, I enjoy your commentary, opinions, reactions, etc. Thanks!

6:29 OKAY OKAY OKAY! Hear me out. A little while ago there was an announcement on the casting of 3 male actors who would be playing suitors. At the time I thought maybe they would be going after Penelope or Prudence, but what if some of them are meant for Violet? Oh the tea!

Ledger is a nice man and has rizz. I support Danbury but it does make things awkward 😊

4:23 Girl, I feel you, I didn’t like it either. It upsets me because I did like Lady Danbury and Lord Ledger being friends, and then it got messy. Ahhhhh! Hyacinth & Gareth’s grandparents hooked up. Oh my god.

Kanthony we miss u

I hate the lady danbury and lord ledger storyline 😭😭 Like how can you befriend the daughter of the man you had an affair with ???

Honestly I wasn't surprised about the whole love affair cause I knew the moment they laid eyes on each other I knew they were going to fuck. I was just traumatized at the fact that she's friends with violet and she fucked her dad😭😭😭🤣

Now I hate that time when lady Danbury taught Kate too much went Kate said she didn't want to get married. and she started saying things like "I lived this life, I loved" when she literally would have lived better without that man and she was very well alone. so it was hypocritical and she was too hard on kate all season long((

I feel this didn't paint Lord Ledger in a very good light. Moving in while she was vulnerable and then dropping her like a stone!

OMG please I want to see Kate pregnant in s3 and Anthony being "extra". I also felt a bit strange regarding the "relationship" between lady Danbuy and lord Ledger😕

The way you feel about Papa Ledger casting is how I feel about all of the Bridgerton boys casting. 🫥In JQ books they were described as gorgeous, extremely handsome...the TV bridgerton as just cute!! So, the Kanthony didn't work for me...😒