This Is How You Properly Critique Greta Van Fleet... 

Came here to say this

What is that even supposed to mean? Jake's better looking? They're IDENTICAL twins!

@@kindking8009 he is saying one of them didn’t get as much oxygen/nutrients so I’m not sure why he’d say that but it is a fucking sick burn even if unmerited

@@cleaniebeastyvoice I understand what he meant I just can't fathom WHY he would say such a thing. I've watched a couple of his other videos and have decided he's not worth the time of day. Thank you for the response, though.

well its really payed dividends for josh

I thought of Rush before Zepp, honestly... but that Age of Man live performance was the first thing I had seen of theirs.

Greta Van Fleet got me into rush because they sounded similar

And no one mention’s the band Budgie also. Listen to early records of that band.

Yes geddy lee.that’s what I thought when I heard that 2nd album.

Because people listen to just one song and shout discount Led zeppelin from the top of their lungs. Now disliking GVF is fine but I have a feeling that a lot of that is out of jealousy. Not this video in particular, but a lot of what I hear from other people.

Gud for u when u get your money worth (EVO kicks WRX)🤘

Watched them live. People complain about today's music... they jammed and everything. Great stuff

Caught them in Nashville at the amphitheater! Amazing! Fucking amazing

We saw them live in KC in 2019. Amazing show.

Pittsburgh???

Would like to hear Justin's thoughts on Built By Nations

@@psychosem17my fave song!!!

Cool!! Thank you!

@@JustinHawkinsRidesAgain The one thing I can't get past is that newspaper or something behind you that says something like "Serial Rapist Alert," wtf is that about? haha

@@strangewayfaringstranger He`s in the colour photo on the same page,suggesting he is the serial rapist in question at first glance lol

@@JustinHawkinsRidesAgain fan since first darkness album only critique on your videos is play a bit more of the sample videos you are chatting about. Gets a little verbose then video snippet of 2 seconds. Keep them coming 👍

@@strangewayfaringstranger Pretty sure the picture to the right of the headline is Justin.

It is really hard to separate yourself as an artist and when your biggest hit is also your debut song. It's your introduction to the world and that's what usually sticks in the mind, fair or not.

I think both of their albums are nowhere near as good as their very early songs

It's literally out there to be judged by wallets and opinions ...but mostly wallets.

heat above is a better choice.

Highway Tune is a rip off of The Rover by Led Zeppelin, mixed with basic Robert Plant isms. So yea an accurate view of their music would be Led Zeppelin wannabe rip offs with no originality

Blown away? Nah. Unique? Give me a break. The second influence is obviously Rush. The vocal is pure Geddy Lee. Choreography more of a mix of Queen and Joe Cocker. The outfits though, oh boy swing and a miss! White lame and make-up can be done well (Ooh la la - Goldfrapp) but this is simply overdone.

@@nankerphelge3771 I am a big Rush fan and I really dont get where people see the Geddy Lee influence. Like, they both have high pitched voices sure, but what else do you find that is similar? I really dont get it

He hates on tons of stuff because he is trying VERY HARD to be "edgy" and "different" or "more introspective" I guess. He's so full of shit he probably calls it "keeping it real" but it's all about provoking and making people react. He makes everyone's skin crawl out because he act so pretentious that people comment and watch his shitty reaction videos to see what dumb take he has today

@@nankerphelge3771okay yeah, like Stevie Ray didn’t almost exactly try to mimic Jimi Hendrix most of the time. I hate this fuckin generation. The more you listen to GVF the more you realize they’re not a cover band for Zeppelin.

@@cadewatts1574I’m very new to GVF, absolutely loving Heat Above. It’s been on my repeat for a few days. I respect and agree with Justin 100% on almost everything and he almost had it with heat above. I think he needed a little more time to digest the song. It is fucking epic.

Couldn't imagine being a fan of the cosplay mediocrity that is GVF. Even their name is corny.

⁠​⁠@@morganghetti it’s fine to dislike the band, but why dislike the people who do like said band? when did good music turn into an originality contest? once again, you don’t like the band, but others do. maybe try putting yourself in their shoes.

Was going to like this post but it's at 69 so I can't bring myself to do it 😜

@@TheCoheedIndeed go for it

@@TheCoheedIndeed Somebody ruined it :(

But the younger generations will never listen to it

@@jk-wc6lr oh trust me we're worshiping them

Trust me I’m listening to it

dont be that old fart, please@@jk-wc6lr

​@@randy7101they're not "worshipping" anything. I've seen more old people praising them for making music like Led Zeppelin and "holding the torch" than anything lol

They are the real thing, talented musicians, singer-songwriters, check them out, they will not disappoint!

I’m sure our girls would love a critique such as you give, Justin

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Mostly zep tho lol

@@matejko1086The Battle at Garden’s Gate sounds like a whole variety of different artists while still having its own sound. Sure, Built By Nations and a couple songs sound a lot like LZ, but they’re still great. You cannot tell me that Heat Above or Broken Bells sound like LZ

Yes..EVERYONE has an influence..As everyone has an opinion...Loving Greta Van Fleet.

My problem with GVF is they deny being influenced by Zep. They’d get less hate if theyd admit that…

Lenny Kravitz isn’t a 1 to 1 copy like GVF is. Amazing how their fans can’t admit how much of a ripoff the band is. So blind and ignorant.

Original is King Gizzard... Ty Segall... list goes on. Greta is for people who listen to the radio and say "there's no good news music !"

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@Adam Johnson he has way more likes than you though . I agree the heat above is my favorite song they made so far 👌

@@1999tenorio yeah heat above is fucking gorgeous, I also like Light My Love.

It is a good song. Some of Kizka's singing is sounding more like young Geddy Lee but he's changing it slightly

Heat above is an old song they worked on for years and the producer made it what it became. Check out the 2016 live performance.

Heat above is god tier for me

I didn’t know they wrote it in high school! That makes so much sense now. Still impressive, but agree it is the weaker of their songs.

BAGG is their 3rd album, not their 2nd

Anthem of the Peaceful Army was their 2nd

@@GrimFelArt my bad. I always think of FTF as an EP.

*guys

The ending of 'Weight of Dreams' is some of their best instrumental work IMO, deffo check that out as well!

Same. I’m sick of the Zeplin talk. They write fantastic songs

@@dpabercrombie - It’s Zeppelin.

It really is an incredible album. And nobody else is mentioning it, but two of the songs have Ennio Morricone influence in their beginnings ... who else in rock had done that? I really only hear Zeppelin influence in one song; the others sound nothing like LZ.

Hell yesss!!! One of the greatest album i ever heard!👏

@@ThatLonesomeLecherousLeech Great take.

First rock band I thought was worthy of listening to the whole album in over 20yrs

Teenagers today still find and are inspired by Led Zep, I'm 35 now but LZ, Deep Purple, Hendrix etc were the reason I picked up a guitar. Truly great music is timeless. The way I see it that's the reason bands like GVF exist and also the biggest downfall. I really enjoy the first album but it makes me want to put IV on afterwards and it's better and it's not close. That's an unfair comparison for sure because it's a bunch of teenagers compared to one of the greatest records of all time but it's a comparison they invite. I think they are a talented and exiting band but they'd do themselves a huge favour by distancing themselves from the early 70s.

@@ThatLonesomeLecherousLeech Hi Lech! I am part of the younger generation (i.e 18-24) that grew up in a house full of rock. I’m confused when you say that GVF’s music should be “rebellious” and “ground breaking”. Does everyone have the same definition of ‘rebellious’ and ‘groundbreaking’? I don’t think so. Based on their most recent album (the battle at gardens gate), I think the abstract, larger message of this album is addressing the human condition. That, to me, is groundbreaking. Times are changing and the human condition is decreasing, something my generation will have to face head on someday, now even. Of course not everyone may see their album this way, but I definitely wouldn’t say it’s anything passive. I think this album is tender yet powerful, something that my generation could use. Especially in a day where unnecessarily vulgar rap and pop is extremely dominant. I think GVF is refreshing and (yeah, I’ll say it lol) reinventing classic rock to bring it to the modern day for people in my generation. Love them.

That’s what the record companies are hoping for, a younger audience that doesn’t remember the "greats," so they can pass off their derivative music as "original."

Rush was their 2nd influence after Zep! Good eye!

I cAn see how his voice might remind you of rush BUT heat above does not remind me of rush as a composition

I totally agree. But...for some reason I've always liked rush despite Getty Lee's voice and for some reason I don't with the singer of gvf. (Josh I think?)

@@bettywhiteandtheboondockers I see what you mean, but a lot of the melody stuff they're doing does remind me of rush, it's just less progressive rock and more of a ballad. The rhythmic tuplets are there but not really pronounced as much as they would be with Rush, but I think the song still has a few more nods to Rush than just the vocals. Even consider the lyrics, they're sort of arranged in a way Neil peart would write lyrics, just a little less cryptic in spots

That tune doesn't sound like Rush but I'm glad you mentioned it because I'm pleased GVF finally released something that doesn't sound exactly like Zeppelin. I do notice however that Heat Above's chorus is somewhat reminiscent of Tommy Roe's 1969 hit "Dizzy", itself a fantastic pop-rock confection.

Takes me back to my teen years in the 70s...I love them!

From LZ to Rush... that's not an improvement.

@@wallaroo1295 😂

GVF just don't seem to have their own identity, even with the change in direction. it's okay to draw inspiration, even heavy inspiration, from old music. hell, led zeppelin were drawing inspiration from music that was all 20+ years old at the time. but the way zeppelin did it was unique to them. GVF just copies certain aspects of the songwriting without actually capturing what made the originals magic. it's like... a few steps above watching train cover led zeppelin. i can enjoy watching a GVF show but it really pales compared to the material they are basing themselves on.

Be cool if they had their own sound

@@Illinoize420 I LOVE Led Zeppelin but let’s not forget ALL the blues artists and lyrics they blatantly “borrowed”. You guys do know that Willie Dixon sued Led Zep and he is now listed as a songwriter on Whole Lotta Love??

Took tiny pieces from songs here and there but not FULL covers ! In fact only 3 from the 1st and 2 songs from the 2nd album were partially covered.That's it.

Yeah I find it funny when people complain about GVF sounding too much like Zeppelin. xD

Zep wasn’t the least bit shy about blatantly ripping off not just riffs but entire lyric sections from blues & folk acts. I love them, but let’s not pretend they didn’t show their influences.

He has a decent Robert Plant impression and that's about it. I don't understand how anyone could fall for their bs.

Mackerel Jones Zeppelin didn't 'copy' anyone. Whatever they took they transformed into something completely different and far superior. That's just a fact.

@@lyndoncmp5751 negative. They did copy several blues artists. Some later attributions were made either voluntarily or by lawsuits. Lemon Song is nearly a direct copy of Killin' Floor by Howlin' Wolf and Zep lost a lawsuit in the early 70s. There are several other examples.

@@tylersmith9418 Incorrect. 1. Led Zeppelin have NEVER lost any lawsuit. They never even fought against or argued again the Dixon and Wolf claims. They owned up to those cases and paid up right away. The only case they actually fought was the Spirit one. They took that to court and rightly won it. Twice. 2. I repeat, they didn't 'copy' anyone. They put their own identity into literally everything they took. Zeppelin actually used to introduce The Lemon Song as Killing Floor when they were playing it live in 1969. However the Lemon Song recorded for Led Zeppelin II is very different to the Wolf song. It is most definitely not a 'copy'. Not if you listen to the Wolf version that came out in the 1960s. Wolf later re-recorded it in England in 1970. Ironically that version has the funk and groove similar to Zeppelin's The Lemon Song. At the time Wolf was re-recording Killing Floor in England, Led Zeppelin II was the number one selling album in both the UK and USA. 3. Nope. No other examples of Zeppelin copying. When they did an out and out cover, they credited the source. Such as the two Dixon covers on the first album. Zeppelin fully credited Dixon for those right from the beginning.

I would LOVE the track by track breakdown, great idea!

Agree

Yeah that was the same for me the dudes are tight straight up rock

Omg yesss. That red rock performance is amazing

Actually the truth

and folk guitarists like Bert Jansch

Everything we know today comes from the foundation of knowledge from those who cam before us. How can you possibly be totally original. I celebrate influences. When did that become a bad thing?

Bad example as the difference is Led Zep sound like Led Zep, not those "poor blues players". GVF are just a poor imitation of Zep

@@muhammadsmith7029 LZ not only used the exact lyrics but even stole the exact melody. Can you give me an example of GVF doing that to LZ's music?

Totally agree not heard a bad song from them yet 66 year old rocker hearing great rock again great riffs no noodling

Not a fresh take when you’re copying the bands entire aesthetic and sound that’s called re hashing

I was working in an HMV music store and they were playing their first EP. Later on the young manager (I'm an old guy) said "What did you think of that music we were playing ?" and I replied "It was f***ing brilliant". He said "Who did you think it was ?". I replied "I thought it was Led Zeppelin but I realised I hadn't heard any of the songs so I Googled one of the songs and found it was GVF. When I get home I am going to find them on RU-vid and listen to everything I can find".

Hope so...so much potential

Because they ripped a lot of people too

And guess what. Ozzy ran back to Sabbath and said "we need to be better than them!" And that's how you take inspiration. Because sabbath made was zeppelin did and made the most important music in history

@@mushroomjesus2068 Yours is an interesting view of history.

@@sparkomatic That is literally what happened. Ozzy saw the Yard Birds when Sabbath was still called Earth. Its literal fact

@@user-gm5by6dj3d They did but they paid the royalties where they were due.

Just go listen to zep bro. Same sound much better songs.

Also all them witches. They have doors, led zep and Sabbath DNA without sounding like any of them

Or they could just roadie for Rival Sons for awhile.

the caravel intro riff is Soundgarden esque

@@ileutur6863 all them witches has to be the best band right now

Have you even listened to any of their new stuff at all?

I gotta disagree. Sure you can’t see a lot of the greats live, but you can still get a feel for the live shows from recordings of them posted on RU-vid. I got into rock just a few years ago in college, and I sure as hell didn’t feel like an archaeologist; quite the contrary. It’s all new to me, because for me it was happening for the first time. I had the same sense of discovery and wonder as a kid hearing a forbidden record play on the turntable in the 70s. It was actually harder coming to terms with the fact that those young heroes are actually senior citizens nowadays or just outright dead (I still try not to dwell on that). It’s one thing to be more 70s/80s-inspired. I’m totally down with that. It’s entirely another to be a soulless carbon copy of one very specific mega-star group of the era. Ask yourself this, would you be giving them a pass if they had actually come out in the 70s? It was a great time for rock/heavy metal, and you had TONS of diverse sounds. Even if you dig through the hundreds of now obscure/forgotten rock bands of the decade, I think you will be very hard pressed to find even a single recording that sounds as similar to the Zep as GVF do. (Not that plagiarism in company is plagiarism justified. It’d still be wrong, regardless.)

Sounds like you are just talking about mainstream music. Just need to dig a little harder to find current bands expanding on that classic rock sound. Ty Segall, Fuzz, Elder, & King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard come to mind.

Can't argue with the Britpop bit. Outside the big ones and a few others, a LOT of crap came from that genre.

Nah dude, go listen to wolfmother already

True. And excelent arguments.

"I'm sent here by the chosen one"

@@Atlas65 "To kill the first born Pharaoh's son!"

@@grandwazoo1696 I'm creeping deeaath!

All Led Zep songs lead to Robert Johnson, so make sure you’re bowing to the right king. 😂

Mackerel Jones Ah Robert Johnson.....the guy who took from Arthur McKay. And so on and so on. 😉

Wholly agree. I hear more Geddy Lee with the shrillness of Josh's voice now. (That's not meant as an insult to Josh, BTW.)

Absolutely Geddy Lee too. There's quite a big Rush influence there

Agreed. Totally heard Geddy Lee. I kind of ignored them when that first album came out because they sounded so much like my beloved Zep which caused my eyes to roll all the way to the back of my skull. The newer songs I like. Amazing pipes the kid has...

"Epic masterpieces", you must listen to some shit music then, sorry mate. Like what you like but please be realistic about it. Lmao.

"Own thing" they ain't got shit mate. Just a glorified Zeppelin cover band.

@@chrishepburn1503 young folks these days don’t have much of anything new to call their own and the standards are really low. Any semblance of what things were like in the past is amazing to them. John Mayer plays a 4 bar blues lick and it’s “an amazing solo”. Remember what they are working with don’t rain on their parade too hard.

@@glibfacsimile I dunno I am not into new stuff. To me they are too much of a novelty act. I would rather people do their own thing then be a total reproduction of a retro sound. Maybe I am wrong bc I only heard them a few years ago.

Inch of haters here clearly listened to them with their minds already made up. They have great music, and pay homage to zeppelin. Also I don’t think it’s wrong for younger musicians to want to incorporate flavor from people who clearly inspired them in the first place. You guys are a bunch of old crabs in a bucket

This Just In, Michelle Rawecks is in awe of Hawekins...

*third, Anthem of the Peaceful Army is their second, not BAGG

copy rehash

Omg their new stuff is amazing

@@GrimFelArt Technically, From the Fires is an EP, so BAGG is their second LP

"Their" lol

Hi Wings!! It would be fantastic for you guys to do a video!

Fil! You should look at some of *The Warning's* new stuff!

Fil! TWA here, youi should look at the Mayday EP, each song is quite unique and powerful, pure hard rock! Hope to see you checking this EP out Soon! Thank you for your support of TW, you got a new interview with them coming I hope!

@@MusicLover-TW Means the Mayday EP, maybe. 😉

@@torresilk4277 😁🤣 oh boy! Yes thats what I meant, corrected. Thanks

I second this

Same...

That's a great way of looking at it!

I was thinking the same thing earlier today while listening to Greta. I’ve heard most of zeppelin. A new band with the same sound is like a whole new album in my mind. Even though it’s not the original band.

I prefer fillet steak to cheap sausages. Sorry.

@TJRROCKSPONGE there is definitely some Floyd sound on this album

@TJRROCKSPONGE Grets Van Fleet? The guys who are selling out every show within minutes, opening for Merallica on their tour as well? I mean ya rock is dead but a few bands are still keeping it on life support.

@TJRROCKSPONGE Rock isn’t anywhere close to dead. If you spent longer than 5 seconds looking for new rock music, you’d know that there are PLENTY of bands making great rock music that are LEAGUES ahead of Greta Van Fleet.

@@jdg5209 that may be true on a technical level, but what constitutes "great rock music" is different for everyone, and there's no limit on the amount of music you can listen to. why can't you listen to those bands and greta if you enjoy what they bring to the table? it's not a competition or desert island situation.

@@catchinglooks Because it’s kind of insulting to claim that rock is dead when there’s tons of artists making interesting, boundary-pushing stuff. And to say that Greta Van Fleet are keeping rock alive is completely untrue when they’re not really doing anything all that creative. In fact, the biggest criticism against them was that they WERE unoriginal. You can like Greta Van Fleet, but you can’t claim they’re keeping rock alive.

For me to poop on

@@mcdingus5081 Are you the Grey kind? 😂

I believe the kids were 13 (Sam - Danny didn’t join the band until the following year) and 15 (Josh and Jake) when they wrote Highway Tune.

Bands will write 20 or 30 songs for an album, pick 10, then rewrite them for release. The year they wrote Highway Song has no bearing on this at all.

@@iamjakt are you saying a band can't improve musically as they gain experience?

Do Free, Paul Rodgers and Bad Co. really count as three? 🤨

@@crusheverything4449 if you want to get pedantic , Free , then he want to Bad Company, then his solo projects,

@@BrianMarto - 🙄

Never in history someone review songs like ppl do now days. As a musician When I read interview I want to know about scales, time signature 16th notes off bout syncopation. Thank god