THIS IS SO PEAK!! | Frieren: Beyond Journey's End Episode 26 Reaction 

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@@Despotic_Waffle Last episode was Kirin, Shadow Clones all over the place, Amaterasu, Genjutus, Sense with the Spidergirl BS, but the MVP was, is, and always will be, Kamehameha.

Damn, literally

Stand proud you're strong

Haven't used this since i cheesed the demon king boss fight

when she said that "we can all go there and fight but many will die" this is what she means she's throwing 1 hit delete spells like it's normal😂

@@shincodm1865 Yeah I realy can't imagine any other mages being present in that room without being disintigrated by those spells. Frieren isn't blocking them with defensive magic, after all, she's countering them with equally big spells, and usually the same ones at that. I can only imagine spells like these are potentially elven specific spells or something. Denken's magic was pretty big too, but Frieren was blocking his attacks with normal defensive magic when they fought, and didnt even use anything fancy.

​@@MysticLuka Most likely mythical age spells taught to her from flamme, who was taught by Serie who was fighting demons even back then

The fight was not bad but i felt like fern was too loose and wasn’t under any real pressure and with the clone possessing frierens power It would’ve been a great way to show how frieren would handle multiple high level mages, that would’ve shown how truly powerful she is.

@@purge3883Ferns biggest strength is her control over her mana, she can basically make herself invisible. At least to mages, they struggle to sense her mana. If fern was fighting side by side with Frieren, she’d actually be more of hinderance.

Yeah, basically if the material something looks to be made of is something that's meant to be cut in common knowledge, she can cut it. In simplified terms, the attack basically ignores enchantment levels and looks at the base material. This also means that a plain old guard in perfectly mundane plate armor could give her a lot of trouble, because plate armor is notorious for being all but immune to cuts and slashes. It's an interesting spell/ability - she can cut things that normally most would consider uncuttable, but struggle against things most mages wouldn't even consider an obstacle. It's kinda like logic turned upside down ... which described Ubel well, I guess.

Her super power is autism

​@@skydrake1833 So that means if Sense turned her hair into metal Ubel would have a harder visualization of cutting Sense.

​@@aurelian2668 sense' hair is already tougher than metal, so it doesn't matter to Ubel. A hair is a hair, she can cut it.

Warhammer 40k logic; this dictates Ubel is Ork.

Ngl this is one of the coolest magic systems I've ever seen.

all magic is done through visualization. you can't realize what you can't visualize.

Actually so accurate LOL

Ehre vs Richter who wins?

Fern: Scissors Frieren: Rock Mimic: Paper

Frieren: Black hole ⚫️

Probably Richter I would imagine. Dude in general looks like on the upper end of the mages gathered here, he just had the misfortune of going up against Sense of all things. @@antigoku2083

Time for jc staff to do season 2😂😂. I'm actually concerned madhouse is gonna drop frieren cause they usually don't commit to one project

@@re_striker3431 I mean they kept with HxH so it's not IMPOSSIBLE... 😭

@@re_striker3431 They would be crazy to pass up doing season 2. Frieren is their most sucessful show in like 2 decades, it the most watched anime show in Japan right now (something crazy like 5% viewership at 11 PM when the show airs) and the BluRay´s sell like hotcakes. Thiis is basically printing money for them. I cant see them not making a season 2.

@crackers5422 that was 13 years ago tho, the most recent madhouse projects that have the best staff only work on it for the first season like opm

@@re_striker3431 If I'm not mistaken Madhouse has been struggling lately and Frieren has got to have put them back on the map. They better not abandon it.

Also the accretion disk around like in interstellar

ALSO I just realized that because she isnt using a spell in any way. Doesnt that also mean that technically she can do anything that she visualizes even if she doesnt have a spell for it. Her only limit is her belief of if she can do it and whether she can visualize it.

@@tinius9276 eldorado arc will tell you the difference between the way demon and human perceive magic...it's quite interesting...

@@nelg1994 thanks I definitely wanted to know about the future of the show I was watching.

Yeah, basically. Ordinary Defensive Magic is one of the few things that Ubel can't imagine cutting with her personal magic, not even if she sees it get shattered by other kinds of magic, or slashed apart by a warrior, because she can't imagine cutting it with her personal magic herself, because can't visualize it.

Insane party. I'm guessing she can hit Eisen with all these spells, and he will tank them like BB gun pellets.

@@kevinganchero2104 Tanking a blackhole? Bruh 😭

well im guessing she was slightly less ridiculous back then. flying wasnt even a thing yet in their time

@@user-sh9ww1yk1y She probably learned that after Qual's fight along with the zoltrack study but she was probably this strong against the demon king, she was also most probably by far the strongest of the hero's party (just speculation, i don't see them fighting this freiren).

​@@user-sh9ww1yk1y Not really. She was using a wider repertoire of magic, only not flying. It was only after killing the Demon Lord that she started spamming Zoltraak and defensive magic. She had all those spells way before, it's just that there's no need to use them now since there's peace now and Zoltraak is way more useful and quick.

Fr. It's like giving results without giving a f about workings

Literally my number one. I've been watching history being made these past 26 weeks.

@@meursaulty6672 It's heading towards my number 1, right now it's in my top 3 for sure.

fern / methode gets a single panel in the manga

Methode shows up later.

Methode shows up later in the manga.

The funny thing is, he probably came out after frieren destroyed the spiegel

would be criminal to not adapt peak arc where a certain demon throws gold shards at boomer mages

Well that sucks bc they're known for not making sequels 🥲 last time it was overlord but the animation was mid all seasons, opm was peak and super popular but they just abandoned it

@@episode4882 yeah that’s the thing. They’re the only studio that I can see giving justice to the next arc. But with their S1 only mindset, one can only be hopeful.

Hey! Welcome! And idk, some characters just have that “I don’t like them” factor I guess 😂

The clone was respawned by the spiegel. How can land do such thing he's not that powerful. He need to have crazy amount of mana to do such feat

@@qyn69 yeah, but it's just kind of odd to me why Ubel's clone specifically casted Sorganeil on Land instead of Ubel and Denken. Because I mean, Denken could probably handle those 5 by himself. I read the manga but I forgot if the whole binding thing actually happened in the chapters, so yeah, I know how much of a stretch my theory is but Land's character is just cool xD

bro the clones literally had the color of clones lol. land as far as we know can only clone himself, and even if he was able to clone other people, they would not have the color of spiegel's clones lol

We did not miss the point... 19:16.

He does! And thank you for your service as well! Glad to be enjoying peak anime indeed haha!

Yeah idk how people can’t be entertained by this…and we are going to be so upset once this series ends lol.

Why are you saying guys? One person was confused, and the other 2 cleared it up. Not sure where your confusion is as to our understanding.

@@Reanimatedyt they were all theorizing. They didn't clean it up. As usual, they don't pay attention and aren't smart enough to follow clear plots

@@evand2 19:16 you idiot lmao. You’re not as intelligent as you think you are if you can’t even pay attention to what is being said.

Be even more worried if you have a cool spell she wants to learn. Empathize with you menacingly

Zoltraak.

That’s true, I think the spells are existing already imagined ones. But yes in theory she could probably just imagine and develop a spell to do whatever it is she’s trying to do.

visualization is just the first step, if you can't visualize something - you won't be able to use the spell

@@marodonthemorone in that case i wonder what the next steps are. The whole Zoltrac plot made it seem like magic in this world is some kind of science, but the only moment reflecting that is when Frieren apparently analyses the barrier. I guess this would one of my few criticisms of this show. The magic system is left to vague for the audience to follow or understand the effort that goes into becoming a mage. Which is why i have a hard time relating to the whole first class mage thing.

@@Tyarrk Frieren magic is mostly scientific / logical by nature, spells require an understanding of magical theory to work. Imagination is limited in that it only affects the form of the spell, which makes sense because if you want to summon a sphere of water, imagining what size, shape, or form it takes is far more convenient than requiring theory to do all this. "visualization/imagination" is simply a factor that goes into how effectively a mage is able to use a spell. A person who cannot visualize summoning a fireball, is unable to. Essentially, visualization is a step required to cast spells. It also likely has correlation with how strong the spell is upon using it. A mage who can only weakly visualize summoning a fireball won't be able to summon a strong one, even if they had a godly mana pool. However, just because someone can visualize breaking the barrier, doesn't mean that it will. Visualization is like a step required to bring out 100% of a spell's power. No matter how powerful your imagination is, though, it won't go above 100%. The reason Ubel seems broken, is because her spell is a unique case where visualization does have a significant effect on the spell, effectively enough to bring out "above 100%" of the power, as one might say, because the spell has different potential based on the wielder. It's very nature is to cut things based on the caster's visualization. Which might seem overpowered, but again, keep in mind that it only has a small range, which cannot be overcome simply through visualization, and even Ubel, one of the most talented magicians in the series, with a rare and unique ability to cast magic instinctively through her perceptions, rather than logic, which is why she's able to cut through cloak and hair with ease, because she sees them as such, despite knowing there's defensive magic in them - is still not able to cut through basic defensive barriers.

Thank you!

Fern. Ubel needs to get within 5 meters to cut, and the defensive spell works well against cutting

​@@jachinnelson5786yeah I think fern will win, the only reason why ubel can kill burg and sense is because its a one sided matchup. She said she can't defeat wirbel or denken but can kill sense. because unlike wirbel and denken who uses barrier to defend, sense and burg imbued their barriers to their cloak and hair respectively. it's much easier to visualize cutting a tough cloak and hair than a brick wall. Fern mastered basic spell such as barrier and zoltraak that she can spam it in a single second.

​@@jachinnelson5786Funnily enough, sorganeil works best if the enemy is far from you. To counter that, you need to be as close to Ubel as possible, which puts you directly in Ubel's melee spec.

Without clear advantage, Fern can't beat Ubel post exam as Sorganeil would simply do its job. Mana concealment only works with ambushes and stuff alike, which is easily considerable as major advantage. In a clear 1 v 1 Fern has no chances. Before Fern fans go insane over this though, I urge you to understand that Fern is NOT a fighting mage, while Ubel is all about fighting. Please try to understand the implications of this. Also keep in mind we don't know all of Ubel's skills for now, and she's has a cold and battle oriented thought process. She'd be superior to Fern in almost all aspects in a battle.

Imma say ubel

One person, not y'all. Contrary to popular belief one person does not speak for the entire group lol.

@@Reanimatedyt you right, my bad. It was Terence, my bad. I thought it was more than just him. This is what happens when I try to watch while I'm supposed to be working 🤣🤣

@@AggieCEO all good lol

macht sent that girl into hiding for 600 years.

She is actually quite capable, don't underestimated her. They intentionally hide the fight for a reason

Wait what does that have to do with peakren?!

@Reanimatedyt Exhibit B & C are on the last 2 Frieren reactions. You haven't even given a proper defense. Go call Terence for help!🤣 Sadly, this is the only show I'm watching on the channel right now, so it's the only comment section where the case can be presented.

@@jadestewart9747 i plea the fifth

@@Reanimatedyt 🤣

It's not a matter of who is stronger. Like Methode said, it's more akin to rock-paper-scissors. A mage will most likely lose if encountering their hard counter, even the powerful ones. So you can't simply think if A can beat B, B can beat C then A can beat C, as C's type of magic might be ably to nullify A's. That being said, A can still be considered first class when C isn't, because A can emerge victorious in more scenarios than C.

what is blud waffling. Ubel was only able to beat Burg and Sense because she's special and because she's the perfect counter for the both of them. Sense could literally body everyone else in the exam aside from frieren. these classes are NOT only for show, only 45 people in the whole world are first class mages. I don't even know what you're talking about with regards to nobility, it's not like you can buy your first class certificate or anything, you need to pass the exam to get it and you can see by these tests that the exams are pretty demanding. All the first class mages are pretty capable in one way or another. Ubel also was only disqualified because she killed the examineer and that was against the rules. you seriously don't know what you're talking about.

Or the other way around since the manga is older

No she won’t. The point of that conversation was that visualizing all of the veins in the body and how to control them is literally impossible.

@@friedhotwings oh ye of little faith. Didn't Sense say, "First-Class Mages make the impossible possible." ??? Deadass....if she finds a mortician and watches them cut open the body, she would be able to visualize where all the major veins are located. There is so much setup during this arc it's crazy. Some of which is just now paying off in the manga currently.

@@AggieCEO 1. Kanne isn’t a first class mage. Far from it, I doubt she ever will be. 2. I’m caught up in the manga, Kanne isn’t in any of the future arcs. Making the impossible possible was referring to conquering a dungeon that’s never been conquered. Not literally doing something that is impossible (manipulating another person’s blood ). It wasn’t written in as foreshadowing. It was written in to tell the audience that it’s not possible for a mage that controls water to blood bend another person, and never will be. There are limits to the imagination. If it was possible, I’m sure Lugner, someone who specializes in blood manipulation magic, would have accomplished it.

​@@friedhotwings ehhhhhhh......ok .. ... ....**MANGA SPOILERS BELOW** . 1. Kanne Isn't as of now....sure, but she very well WILL be in the future. It's not hard to see just how powerful she currently is when it comes to water. Frieren even said she couldn't visualize how to beat her in the rain. There is NO WAY that she never becomes one. And since Frieren alludes to seeing them again later, you best BELIEVE it's gonna have and likely after 3 years have passed and she has achieved it. Lugner is a demon, and we already know they lack imagination, he pigeonholed himself in not only his "we are better, period" mentality so much that he thought both Frieren and Fern were weaker than him and couldn't imagine a world where he would lose to them. Of Course he couldn't blood bend with that mindset. 2. There is NOOOOO WAY That "First class mages make the impossible possible was ONLY in reference to the dungeon. That's FAR too small of an issue to use a phrase that ostentatious. I believe that is is meant to be taken literal. The reason for that is because there is LITERALLY TIME TRAVEL VIA MAGIC. Something that SHOULD be "Impossible" but it is clearly not. And if that happened that one time, it's entirely possible that it could happen again later.(I wouldn't be surprised to see it happen during the demon king fight. And just as EQUALLY big if not bigger is being able to talk to the dead. IF Flamme legit created that spell, that is BEYOND impossible as well which makes sense because she is well beyond a first class mage of the current era. and lastly, to say there are "limits to the imagination" is wild. Because there are no limits to what ones mind can imagine when unbound. Ubel is an example of that and I have a feeling that she is about to use Land's clone spell in some nasty unexpected ways in this current arc. And if you read all of this, you are awesome....lol

@@AggieCEO you’re equating the unfathomable goddess magic with the magic of regular people. The magic of the goddess is a completely different magic system than the magic of mages which you should know if you read the manga. Your point about Kanne returning as a blood bending first class mage is just wishful thinking. Kanne isn’t powerful at all. It’s implied that any mage who can control water is OP in the rain, for obvious reasons. The fact that she beat Richter had little to do with her prowess or potential, and everything to do with the fact that she is a mage that controls water in the rain. Based off the second class mage exam that Übel failed, it’s clear that Kanne wouldn’t have even been able to pass that test unless it was raining. The only conceivable power up she could have beyond basic stats improving is learning to create water out of nothing, even with this she would have to have the necessary mana to do something meaningful with it, which means she’d have to undergo way more than 3 years of training. She’s simply not prodigal enough or exceptional enough to leap from third class mage to first class mage in 3 years. Or 30 years for that matter. The rest of your argument is more head canon. I’m relying on what the story has shown us either through context clues or explicit writing. Your point about Lugner is also suffering from misunderstanding the writing. Lugner couldn’t visualize himself losing to (only) Fern (not Frieren, because he’s already lost to her in the past) because Fern is concealing her mana and true prowess. Not because he lacks imagination. Arrogance and imagination are not the same thing. Nor have we seen anything to suggest that demons lack any prowess in imagination with their own magic system. Flamme didn’t create a spell to talk to the dead. If she did, she would’ve just left the spell in her Grimoire. Flamme found a place where soul’s rest. There’s nothing unfathomable or impossible about this, nor is it due to a spell cast by any human. It’s simply a phenomenon within the world of Frieren. Just like Dragons and Dwarves. It’s just a part of lore. It’s possible that it was a spell cast by the goddess but inferring about that is pointless. Don’t forget that this story is about Frieren making it to Ende. They’re already well into the northern continent. Even if it takes another 3 years for them to make it there, I highly doubt first class mage Kanne (doesn’t even sound right), would just teleport to Frieren and group or have a side quest displaying her magical blood bending powers. Don’t forget that there are only ~50 first class mages in the last 50 years. Kanne can’t even fathom concealing all of her mana. She’s not becoming a first class mage in her lifetime. If she does, she’s not going to be a blood bender. I didn’t say that Sense’s make the impossible possible speech was only in reference to the dungeon, I said that it was in reference to the dungeon which it was. Extrapolating that comment to mean anything is possible in the world of humanity’s magic is simply false. Yes, there are limits to imagination. Blood bending is one of them. Even Übel, who supersedes the context of human imagination, can’t use Reelseiden to cut through defensive magic. No one can. And other mages wouldn’t even be able to use it to cut through the first class mages cloak or sense’s hair. Did you miss that whole conversation between Sense and Übel? “The world of magic isn’t that simple.” I doubt you’ll respond to this, but i do hope you learned something about Frieren.

Nah, she was saying it isn't like you to leave such a big opening, which is where the real frieren came in and cleaned her up

@@Reanimatedyt which is true, but I reckon she was leaving the opening because she was busy being like "Alright you little shit-"