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ct4 and ct5 blackwing for me

@@ShaiyanHossain good choice! 😎

The final generation of the Holden Commodore ss was setup by more or less the same team as the e39 m5. People who have driven them both will tell you that it's also a true successor.

Alfa romeo are not reliable

I’ve had 6 Caterhams as well. Snap. A similar deaf lunatic. The 7th is coming next year and I plan to keep it forever now that Lotus is a Chinese SUV distributor and Caterham plans to start making expensive (albeit interesting) electric 3 seaters.

The 981 Porsche Boxster was styled after the Porsche GT and it too has stood the test of time both beautiful cars

@@odinikita4821Thank you, I love my 981 Spyder, timeless lines!

But will the Toyota feel timeless in 20 years…

Lucky you. I just have the GR CP, but would love a mint Elise

@@gaycha6589 One of them is better than none of course. 😊👍🏻

Able to share what roads these are..? Look awesome

​@@hypermotardkingthe B4391 awesome road

@@iansneddon74 Thought the Bala roads looked familiar

Strong? Err, no its not! 😂😂

Depends whose it is. My Honda powered one is ace, I've owned more of them than you have too :) @@stephaneley3135

Oh and strong is meant in terms of say vs. a Caterham 7 in an accident rather that what I think you're getting at which will be mechanical. @@stephaneley3135

I share your concern, but I’m not completely sure it will be as bad as you fear. I think (hope maybe) that synthetic fuels produced with low carbon footprint, could offer a real solution to the continuation of combustion engines. I know as it stands, several countries plan to ban the sale of non-hybrid combustion engines within the next 10-20 years, but politicians break commitments all the time, and if synthetic fuels become more viable then there’s a real chance we could still see them on the road 50-100 years from now. In terms of cars becoming soulless dull entities all about transporting people efficiently and nothing else, in any era there’s a significant % of cars which are exactly that, I remember many an awful product from British Leyland that exactly fit that description too. Fun drivers cars for petrol heads, have always been a small % of the market, but there’s no reason I can see that that won’t continue to be available (many great cars to choose from brand new right now).

Don't worry so much. See watches - classic, mechanical, purposeful watches command premium value and are aspirational, against quartz as commodity. See planes - we still learn and study a propeller plane, and while we don't buy old 1940 planes we still aspire to a Cessna. EVs have their place, moving people who don't find joy in the use of it, and for the rest of us ... 👍🏻

One of these cars is still in production so....

I shared your mindset when the pro level RC world was transitioning from nitro fuel to electric and lithium. No personality. Boring RCs. yadda yadda. I got over that really quick once i realized how much more freedom i had in designing my RC builds when i didn't have to factor in slipper clutches, driveshafts, etc. And the speed.. the instant speed! I'll still take my old nitro cars out for a spin in good weather, but now many years into electric's domination in the hobby - my old nitro cars feel clunky and dated. Retro fitted kits are already happening. It won't be long before you start seeing electric converted classics on the regular. Effortlessly making 500+lbs of torque, and taking up less space compared to the pushrod mill they replaced. As for character - there's plenty to be had. Per-wheel tuning to create drift monsters. On demand AWD , rear bias, fully tunbable left to right actuation, you name it. Electric conversions are poised to transform offroading, bobbyist motorsport, and grassroots hotrodding. And as things get better and more adopted, you'll see a lot more dialing in the "Real feel" - similar to the way petrol cars have been doing for over a decade. Your newer car almost certainly has electric steering, and possibly has drive modes that make the steering feel lighter or heavier... gives you a quicker "rack" or slow and cruisy... infinite "feel" tuning. (my mini jcw does this. and although i'm a hydraulic steering purist - the mini comes damn close to the same responsiveness and feel thanks to these adjustable modes)

And yet it is not a patch on the Lexus LFA

@@trancenut81 I questioned this myself when writing that comment they are both truly amazing sounding engines and if I had one I’d always lust after the other I’d say they are level just in different ways

@@trancenut81lexus has the best oem exhaust by Yamaha, the engine doesn’t compare, nor does the rest of the vehicle. CGT is 1 of a kind.

The Evo is a 4 banger.

How on earth did you reach that conclusion… MG and Lotus couldn’t be more different if they tried 🤦‍♂️

@@CommonsFilms I think you should try to have a look at history. MG, a small British sports car manufacturer looses its way to the corporate mentality (see MG Metro, Montego etc etc). Then sold to a large conglomerate and now produces nothing like it originally did. If you can't see this happening again then you might want to remove your head from the sand. The only 'adding lightness' we see now is to the brand. The Lotus philosophy is DEAD.

@@stephenwoodrow9784 MG have nothing like the heritage of Lotus, having produced family mundane shit boxes for the most part. Lotus have stayed a float because they are extremely gifted when it comes to design, and ensuring a car handles like no other. Now, for the first time in Lotus history they have an endless pot of money, so can take the fight to the big players out there. Their future has never looked so secure and you couldn’t be talking more bollox if you had tried.

@@CommonsFilms resorting to insults....well done you 🥱. You do know that MG started in motorsport over twenty years before Lotus was even founded? But apparently they have no heritage according to you! For the record I am (or was) a Lotus fan having owned 8 to date and work at the HEC / Hethel. I'll never own another one again....unless its now a classic

What's wrong with the Emira? It's still 95% Evora, after all.

But the 7 shouldn’t even be in this test comparison because it’s not a vehicle introduced within the last 25 yrs.

That’s your fault. There has been plenty of sunny days

@@hoonaticbloggs5402 yeah, it's not just the weather that's stopped me.

There have been 5 in South West wales so far haha

💯 but the Evo isn't a hatchback

honestly, either; the ethos behind them is the same.

in m heart, I do hope they will build one again, at some point; hopefully, not an electric one.

Where abouts in wales?

I can't quite remember now without watching the video again. I think it was around the North; B4402, B4391, B4501/A543 bit of the A5 (the "Evo triangle"), towards Capel Curig etc. Hope that helps.

@@diesel9677 I'm well aware, it's not what it was 10yrs ago.

​@@benjaminsawyer8479 it runs between Llan Ffestiniog and the top end of Llyn Celyn reservoir. Awesome road!

So, so weird: I was just about to write that, too!!

Yeah, when it is sitting next to that Elise, it does make you do a double take.

Agree, great car. I guess it missed out on the hot hatch category as it's a coupé.

Yes but it’s not a car from within the last 25yrs so shouldn’t even be in this comparison test.

In that case the Porsche, BMW and Lotus in this test don't qualify either. So your point is? @@neilturner6749

I bought this actual Elise for that job, the B4391 is the last section of road for a summer morning blast.

Lotus Sunbeam and BMW 1-series would like a word.

@@EvoraGT430 nah hot hatch is always small light fwd def not rwd. True enthusiast would agree...

I have to say, road closed or not it bothers me to see the cars all over both sides of the road. Enthusiasts can drive relatively safely on B roads, enjoying cars like these, because you can be fairly confident that the principle of "stay on your own side of the road" is honoured. It does not feel right to me to see that principle dishonoured.

Cayenne/Macan/Taycan all keep Porsche in the business of building 911s, so........

Fun for 10 minutes yes

Because it doesn't matter?!

you miss the point; ultimate lap times are for kids and ppl with big egos(and small *you know what*); for a driver, it is all about the experience; those cars, from the video, offer that in spades..and then some more!

​@@eugenux Not really, an Ultima is completely and 100% analogue.

Spoken like someone with no experience of driving any car featured here or the ones your mentioning… this isn’t top trumps.

@@CommonsFilms I did give two answers, one for people who want lap times and another for practical every day driving.

@@maryginger4877 there is no such thing as a practical every day driving in a super/sports car. A low slung, low weight, no comfort creatures, ultimate speed machine will never be anything else than a track weapon. All the cars on the list ar road cars that can(and should) be used on the actual roads. None of them ar track toys refugees on the streets. Like I have said earlier.. I believe you are missing the point.

Evo triangle in Wales.

@@JelloTypeR thanks. Looks great but thought it was all average speed cameras there now.

​@@JelloTypeRDefinitely not the Evo triangle.

B4391

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In the bin 😂

The Yaris won the hothatch category. Clio 182 Trophy was second.

Saxo is in a hedge upsidedown for sure 😂😂

​@@marktickle8480Clio should have beaten the Yaris tbh.

@@LawrenceTimme Never had a go of the Yaris, it seemed to be the car of choice for people using though. I had a Trophy 182, great car, can't compare it to the Yaris personally.

There was a supercar category that went to public vote, the Porsche won. NSX, McLaren, LFA, various Ferrari and Lamborghini were all included, even a Nissan.

@@marktickle8480 I would have thought the Porsche was a step up from a supercar, I would class that as a hypercar personally. Just maybe that's why it won that class 😂😂presumably they were just making absolutely sure a 911 couldn't win?

In flames at Calais . Apparently some immigrants are using the remains to try and cross La Manche.

That sounds good. But the engine would be bigger than the car. 😂

Not sure if CF would make it much lighter. The clams are light anyway and the chassis may drop a few kg of CF. An NA V6 that came in as light as the K series would be great, albeit very expensive! Exige 430 has lots of CF and a (SC) V6, comes in at circa 300kg more, different thing altogether