as a owner of c1, i checked several videos of yours, great usefull information, now we can use this tv on full potential, squeezing maximum what we paid for. thanks (;
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 idk man I'm afraid to mess w it. I already had a professional calibrator do it. Do you know hdtv tester channel? How does it effect hdr games ?
@@AJJJ-co2vd HLG works only over SDR so you have to turn off HDR, it's not going to mess any calibration, if you don't like it you can just put it back to auto
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 so I just tried it on a few games and did research. Basically instead of having the Xbox or TV apply hdr 10. Your shutting off the Xbox hdr to have the tv apply a form of hdr meant for standard broadcast tv. I can't speak for black levels bc I'm not in a dark enough room to adjust it right now. The colors using hld are a little less saturated but I think you lose some shadow detail. At the end of the day all that matters is that you like it 👍
I think it should be noted that this is an input level adjustment and I wouldn't use this in place of HDR, only for SDR content. If you are using this with an Xbox or PS5, be sure to set this option back to auto before playing HDR content or it will change your HDR to HLG as well. On the Nintendo Switch this is a god tier upgrade that you can just set and forget since it doesn't use HDR.
@@miketheless8167 dude I have a C1 and I’m also confused lol but man I guarantee you’ll love this tv (or the C2) even on it’s “stock” setting. I’ve played around with mine and got it to where I like it. Although I’m always looking on RU-vid for better settings. It’s a beautiful display right out of the box though.
I actually do have to set brightness to 49 in dolby vision or otherwise (0, 0, 0) will still glow very slightly in the dark. At 49 the image does crush blacks more though, so I have to go into color - > white balance and raise the low point on all colors up by 4. One more and it glows again, so this is the brightest I can make it without getting rid off the ability of the panel to turn off the pixels. The image is still to dark to my liking, even in a pitch black room, so I have to turn on dymanic contrast to help a bit. Cinema Home is a good brightness for me in the dark, but unfortunately to my eye this setting seems to oversaturate colors, removes shadows, and causes overblown highlights.
Are you kidding me man? My old C7 had this crazy bright effect, years ago. I had no idea what it was, but u loved it. It made everything pop and I've been trying to chase that same effect here on my G1 for YEARS. I could never find it. And i find the solution from some guy just chilling in his bedroom? Yoooooooooooo. That you SO much man. I don't care if its not "color accurate" or not "true to life" when it looks this good, it looks this good man. Thank you so much. My chase is over.
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 so, for whatever reason, my C7 just shipped with that HLG mode perma enabled. Everything looked amazing. Everything. Do you know a button combo for the C7 menu and I can check if my theory was right?
So I tried it, and the homescreen looked absolutely amazing, which I liked because for whatever reason, normally in HGiG mode, the homescreen is too dark for me. With this HLGmode on, the letters and the highlights around the game borders really popped. But, the In-game screens to me were lacking or similar to HGIG on. Kena,, an sdr game, which is the first one I tested, actually looked worse to me.
Very nice! Didn`t know about this secret menu. I've tested on my C1 and think it looks very nice in SDR games. But also i think for regular SDR content like movies and regular windows desktop it looks actually worse somehow, maybe some crushed black levels. Thanks for sharing!
After fiddling a little more I think was using the wrong black level setting in this HLG mode. In regular SDR without HLG was limited, but when turn on HLG in secret menu, if i set black level to full or auto, it looks correct again, even on movies and regular desktop
@@luar2521 I think it doesn't work if you hover using the mouse-like cursor, you have to have it highlighted with the fixed arrow buttons in the remote and then press the keys.
I recently baught an LG 75" nanocell, there was no help online and from LG on how to set up my TV, there is no support at all from LG i had to go on you tube to find out how.
Great video thank you. Can I ask if I do this on say HDMI 1 for my pc gaming will it make sdr into hdr for all my other inputs too, as that's not desirable?
I have 2 panasonic plasmas, 42X10 and 42GT60 (mainboard is damaged currently, but I want to repair it). Picture quality on PDP is awesome (even on 42X10 with 1024x768 panel picture is very detailed from around 2 meters and extremely vivid and natural at the same time), but I thought OLEDs are better, so I was planning to buy one for 4K and HDR content. You say motion on OLED can look as good with black frame insertion, but what about brightness. Picture on your oled is bright enough with BFI turned on?
I discovered how to get the same luminance level with BFI on! Using HLG HDR tone mapping ON and Motion Pro is amazing. I will do a side by side comparison
@@PabloB888 For me 60HZ BFI feels the same lag as 60 no BFI, the thing is that no BFI would allow for boost mode which would give you almost 120hz responsiveness. 120hz BFI is perfection imo
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 So that's "oled motion pro" is just BFI, not motion upscaling? If thats the case input lag should be indeed the same. BTW. thanks for interesting videos, not many youtubers are willing to talk about issues on their TV's and offer solutions.
@@PabloB888 Thank you 👍. With motion interpolation called De-Judder on this TV the input lag is really bad but it does a fantastic job creating frames from 30 to 120 so for me that's the future, an awesome motion interpolation without input lag. You can watch this video I made about that ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-87bR3fLwMyM.html
Is there any option to completely remove ANY dimming? When I for example use Cubse (music recording program) or watch a chess match online the tv starts dimming after only 4 min or so and I have removed ALL of the dimming options in the regular meny! Thx
Yes, you can turn off TPC and GSR on the service menu if you don't mind potentially voiding your Warranty. Watch this video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-A_VprhQ3jGA.html
Thank your for all the info! I’m a new LG C1 user and I’m really worried about the bright. I’m trying it but… I have one question. With HLG I must disable the HDR 10 on my PS5 and the Dolby and HDR 10 on my XSX? Because then when Dolby turns on the image looks washed with this HLG. Can you help me please?
Yes, turn off HDR to use HLG, it only works over SDR. I've learned a lot from that video and HLG looks impressive but it would be my last recommendation, I would recommend you to learn how to set up Native HDR which is better when you get the settings right and fixed the sometimes Black Level Raised, which is a common problem (Calisto Protocol for example). Watch my more recent videos
PC. For HDR10 HGIG is almost always superior. And HDR10 is superior to HLG HDR but in my experience and opinion most HDR10 implementations are leaving a lot to desired or maybe this TVs are not bright enough so HLG Tone mapping OFF is an amazing option for everything
Man I was getting crazy, xbox series x and my C1 and it looked terrible, doing this even enabled the true motion option and now RDR2 looks like running at 120hz it looks amazing, thank you!!!!!
For LG C2 I suggest to also set ON Tone Mapping Mode. Try with RU-vid and with the other two option the black are bright grey. Maybe to set down from 100 in OLED Pixel Brightness.
So when I do the secret menu. I can keep the hdr implementation on. Hgig. Then change from auto to other option. So it'll be HGL. NOT HGIG? BUT U CAN PUT IT IN HGIG OR DTM OFF
I did try HLG and liked it, but i reverted to Auto eventually for noticing some colour artifacts on some games. Thank you anyway for the video! I do have a question, i noticed that when i switch on my ps5 for the 1st time, the screen shows HDR logo as it normally does, then shows HLG even though i had reverted to AUTO. This worries me a bit, any idea what's causing that? Thx in advance
I havent tried this on the PS5 or Xbox, I think they look good as is. But on the Switch, changing it to HLG with BFI on low or medium made a big difference! High BFI on my CX is still way too dark and flickery but even on low and medium Mario Odyssey is a bit smoother and around the same brightness as SDR. Also, for the switch i would leave tone mapping to off or HGIG as it washes out the colors too much.
Man you saved my tv. I don't have an OLED, i have a lg QNED 81 (europe variant of the qned 80 series) and i was going crazy about how bad the image looked with my consoles in 4k 120 with vrr. With both Xbox SX and PS5, the image had a black trail on dark colors, it was ruining the experience on darker games like Tlou part 1 or dead space. Following your advice on raising black levels, now the problem is solved and the image is pretty good. I guess it's a manifacturer isssue then, not only for the OLED lineup. I also contacted lg support and sent them videos, they told me it was Tlou's fault and that the game didnt support 120hz mode. Sure XD. Anyway, that was THE trick. I was about to give up on the tv and your advice was gold.
It's great to hear that! Check out more of my videos about the black level and other tricks that might work on your LG. I've learned A LOT since that video
So if i understood correct, this makes difference only for SDR content, right? The games and movies which were already HDR, will gain nothing from that?
Not imo. The problem with HDR10 gaming is that you need to adjust the settings correctly which most people don't know how and even after doing that the colors might be diluted or the black level raised, is something I would strongly suggest everyone to try, compare with HDR10 and go for the one you like more.
thank you very much for the configurations bro, I have a doubt in one of your first videos you mention that you had to activate an option in the nvidia control panel to improve the color, this is in setting desktop color, mark cancel reference mode, and then select game, my question is if it is still necessary to do this? and another question, is if you recommend using the bfi mode? do you use the bfi mode? Thank you
The reason why I thought that setting on the Nvidia control panel was making things better is because it coincided with the time the TV was getting better with use (out of the box the colors were dead). I was finally satisfied with the colors when I discovered the ColorControl app and was able to change to Color Gamut Native color saturation 50 warm 50 to perceptually match my Plasma.
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 Why exactly please do you use BFI? To improve motion clarity? I'm curious because when I activate it, I feel like the screen is blinkering, it's very disturbing, I'm wondering if there is anything wrong with my settings.
This is so true!! I watched some show at night (the boys) and the black bars were greyish... And i thought "what the hell is wrong here?!" then i figured out that i set screen brightness to 55... I set it back to 50 and suddenly black bars were black... OMG
Something that is not absolutely clear. 1. Tweak black level (aka color brightness) 2. Change to this HDR mode. Now the black level is different. Do we have to tweak again? Reuse the number we found before. I'm not sure. Many thanks!
You are correct. I did it in the wrong order. Black level needs to be readjusted, especially if you are going to use BFI with DTM on the black level will probably need to be a click lower to get perfect black. On my set is 51 for everything but DTM on with HLG HDR which is 50
At 1:18 in the video you say to have a perfectly black background on the screen but I have no idea how to get a black screen. There’s always some text or image. Help!
Can you help me with sound dolby atmos is so quiet on Netflix should I turn it off enjoying watching Stranger things S4 has both dolby vision and atmos vision is fine just the sound is so low have to turn my volume up to 50 and with it off like 12 is high enough
Great video. One question though: wouldn't the PS5 automatically display HDR content? Why would you need to turn SDR content into HDR on a PS5? Am I missing something?
Try it and compare them, the auto HDR from the PS5 is not going to push the TV to it's full brightness, the HLG trick will, and it works over SDR because it's backwards compatible
Will this work for the Nintendo Switch or apps like RU-vid built into the TV? I just got a C2 65'' and i'm pretty bummed about SDR content. Def gonna check this out when i get home!
It will definitely work for Nintendo switch but I would recommend you different color Settings, just keep Color Gamut Auto saturation 55 Warm 50 and force HLG with Tone mapping OFF. For the internal apps won't work because it is an HDMI signaling override. If the colors look too overly saturated for you just use SDR BT1886 Contrast 85 OLED brightness 75 Warm 50 Color Gamut Auto saturation 55
Man i have the same tv for almost a year now , and if my brother stood that close to the Tv and waved that Game controller so close to the TV , i would have a nervous breakdown 😂😂
I did this but I only have on and off options when it comes to HDR tone mapping. Would you happen to know why it’s like that for me? I’ve had this tv over 6 months and it’s never looked this good! You changed the game for me lol. I was about to buy a Samsung S95b but not anymore. Thanks again!
I play red dead often and I have the C1 I was in love with it for a while. But then noticed judder. It's only 30 frames locked for the game but I want to learn to use Oled motion pro for games to help with this. But doesn't work in game mode with Dolby vision. Any chance I may have missed something?
For 30fps Motion Pro doesn't work well because each frame is double. You can try De-Judder on 10 which looks impressive, the problem is the input lag, watch this video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-87bR3fLwMyM.html
Love LG they are masters in TV Pannels, I love my first 4K LG TH if still works as brand new in 2022 and bought it in 2014. Now I switched for my PC to a Samsung G9 because is avesome but still LG is in my hart.
I have big judder issues and I am about to return this TV, tru motion is always greyed out and I can not get to the settings that redit has suggested, so coming here is last chance salon for this TV (by the way I am using a 3080ti and HDMI 2.1)
Use PC mode game optimizer mode. Boost mode off, Gsync Freesync VRR off, fixed refresh rate at 60, 100 or 120, then engaged motion Pro for gaming using HLG dynamic tone mapping ON. For regular content use anything other than game optimizer for true motion to be available. Watch this video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-A_VprhQ3jGA.html
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 Thats the issue true motion is never available, I dont use the TV for anything else I also dont have dynamic tone mapping on any menu. My menus dont look the same as yours do
Thanks for great video. I watched a movie and switched to HLG to get hdr, but first i accidentely switched to ST2084 and the screen became to bright to watch. Can ST2084 damage the screen?
St2084 is the EOTF of HDR10 and that doesn't look good, the reason why HLG works is because it's backwards compatible with SDR meaning the Gamma curve is the same from the lower end of the gray scale until SDR max brightness. There is no damage by using HLG it's just a different HDR format
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 Okay i see. It looked like ST2084 is to much bright, and HLG looks very good. I accidently had ST2084 on for a short while, could the brightness on ST2084 damage the panel?
You might already know this but when u go to game optimizer change the game genre from standard to rpg, it will make the colors more vibrant and make the picture look clearer
That setting gives you a competitive advantage because it raises the black stabilizer. It doesn't look more beautiful to me but if you like it go for it.
Just bought the c1 and trying these settings but hovering over the “select mode” and entering that code does make that hidden menu pop. Do you know any other way?
I have a 2021 oled c1 and I don't have a "HDR Tone Mapping" option. After I click on "Brightness" my "peak brightness", "Gamma", and "Black level" is grayed out and I can't click on it. Is anyone else like this? And is "HDR Tone Mapping" under the "Peak Brightness" option?
On SDR you won't see a tone mapping option. You have to turn on HDR on Windows or your console and open an HDR game or video. You can alternately use the HLG trick over SDR and that EOTF would have you on HDR, for that my recommendation is Tone mapping OFF color gamut Native saturation 50 warm 50
Every video of yours has a lot of quality! I hope you get more subs! May I ask for some help? I bought the same TV recently and I am building a PC next week (i9 12900K, 3080 Ti, MSI Edge 2690 and 32 RAM). I want to PC game on this TV with a controller from my couch/sofa. 1) Can you tell me what HDMI 2.1 cable to get? Should I get a 8K cable. Can you recommend a brand please? 2) Do you use Windows 10 or 11? Is one better than the other, especially for gaming? 3) Any recommendations for keyboard with mouse or trackpad? I am not going to be playing any RTS games/FPS at the moment, but it might be a good investment for the future. 4) What controller do you use and recommend for PC gaming on TV? Any input lag you noticed? 5) Lastly, what game launcher do you use? I think I saw Epic launcher. Do you use steam, too? Is the big screen mode pretty good for TV gaming? Any recommendations will be great. So Sorry for all of these questions, friend. I am very new to this and I would appreciate any help. Thank you
Yo Clare. Lets see: 1. I'm not sure about this one, but don't splurge too much and learn to google with "reddit" in the search, will give you less sponsored content (in theory) and some good opinions. I don't think you need 8k as this is only a 4k TV? Again I'm not sure here 2. Windows 10 is what I use but if you're building a new PC it may come with 11, that's most likely fine. 3. I personally use a Corsair keyboard (K55) and a Razor mouse (Death Adder V2), but I love playing FPS games. They're also both wired, wireless I've had mixed results with. 4. I use an Xbox One controller and it works great. Some input lag with bluetooth (I'm super sensative) and absolutely none when plugged in. 5. Steam is the real answer here. Big screen mode is great for gaming on the TV. Epic is okay, but they are really only good for the free games they give out every week (which is awesome for somebody just starting their library). Pro Tip: You can also add Epic games to your steam library (bottom left of library, + Add A Game -> Add a Non-Steam Game -> find installed Epic game) and can launch them from big picture mode Hope that helps and get excited!
Yes, it only works over SDR. Try the original HDR10 from the games and tell me if you find an example in which the game implementation looks better to you. So far Elden Ring and Sekiro are the only winners to me.
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 Thanks so much for replying. I tried call of duty modern warfare single player earlier the London level and the difference in lighting is massive compared to the games built in HDR! The car headlights actually look that bright that you can't look at them for long youur eyes start to hurt and the colours just seem so much more vivid. Fifa 22 is much brighter too with really nice colours using HGIG. It's Oled quality but not far of QLED brightness, that's how good this is bro!!!
@@MrSheephorse I'm so happy to hear that bro. Enjoy! Try Tone mapping OFF for the most impactful result to play in a dark room and HGIG for a bright room.
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 I am quite a beginner in settings, but do I take it that Elden Ring HDR game settings is only possible on PC? I have Elden Ring on PS5 and I don't believe it has an HDR setting, only to prefer quality over performance, so I can use these new TV settings?
I've never seen that TV but if it is LCD the OLED is a self emissive display with perfect contrast, which is the most important attribute of picture quality
Tried this on horizon and the colors looked washed with no depth, I really want to love this TV but I dont I feel I been missing something, I been through every setting :/
This is quite inaccurate to SDR games so I’d recommend using some calibration disk like Spears and Munsil to adjust the brightness/contrast/some color settings and the tone mapping settings to really bring this to the next level.
The problem is that the color calibration is locked while using HLG and I don't want to touch the calibration on the service menu. But if you figure out how to make it better let me know
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 and one more thing OLED motion Pro set to high there is judder or something I can't tell but its not smooth like when it turned off, I'm using PS4 which is 60fps, should I change something in settings
@@parthivbomma6570 Brother 60 FPS on RDR2 is very demanding, the PS4 is doing 30fps and the result is each frame is double, that's why you see Judder. Try Cinema mode with HLG Tone mapping OFF and De-Judder 10, which is going to look more fluid than 120FPS with a 30FPS input lag
@@parthivbomma6570Use PC mode game optimizer mode, it can give full chroma 444 at 120 but that's not going to be visible. For the colors use color gamut Native color saturation 50 warm 50. Use the ColorControl app on a laptop or PC.
No. Dolby vision is superior but the only game with native Dolby vision support is Halo Infinite, the rest of them are just a conversion from HDR10 which can still be superior to HLG, you have to try both.
Very helpful information dude, I’ve been playing with my c1 77 settings and I think it improved a lot but these new settings and secret menus I am go8ng to try because I can see that my new oiled love 😜 needs more improvement . I am a ps5 gamer but im more of a movie buff so I’d appreciate if you could make a video for the movie enthusiasts too 🙂🙂 thanks you so much ☮️
If the game has good HDR this HLG trick shouldn't be better, but try it, you might be surprised. Turn off HDR and Dolby vision from the Xbox, this HLG trick works over SDR
Interesting video! Out of curiosity will this have a negative impact on my viewing experience if say dolby vision for gaming is enabled on my series x and I play a dolby vision game? Or will it just force the game into HDR?
Hi, im the guy that was complaining that we both seem to find the lg c1 as smt is off with it and I found it not normal we only few complaining…after more than a year i found the issue.I always thought tv was just you know ok that it and did not feel the hype coming from plasma samung and after playing with settings for so long and Always thinking its just ok. I can now say this tv is Amaze ball the depth clarity and color and brightness finally hit and All i did was just go to a completely different power outlet I just knew there was smt off even if the technician told me looked normal.Im glad you found your setting and maybe even in one of you video tried changing power outlet idk but that turned my tv to what it should have been from the start the issue was really not obvious anyway just wanted to let you know maybe yours different idk I think now getting proper juice for it to work as it should to Merry Christmas I also believe better bass from speaker
I just got my first OLED, it’s a LG G1. It looks great but it definitely crushes blacks. You say to raise screen brightness/black level no higher than 56, no lower than 50, and that eventually it will end up back at 50 or 51 once the panel has been used for awhile. How long does that usually take? What is the setting you use now? 51 or 50?
I'm not an expert and I don't have enough experience to give you that exact answer but I can definitely tell you how to get it always right: open a black level test video and on a perfectly dark room raise the brightness (black level) until you no longer have perfect black and then lower it one click. My TV stays at 51 for everything but Dynamic tone mapping ON HLG which is definitely 50.
Hello brother; quick tip on this that tremendously helped me: Grab an empty toilet paper roll- put it right up against the screen, and stick your eyeball right on it…. Move it until you’ve clipped your black level as you described…. Very useful tip given to me by a professional calibrator ..
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 ninjician IS the professional calibrator I spoke of… it’s basically isolating all external light to prevent reading influence… watch the dark spot around the paper roll carefully as you adjust brightness value, until the dark spot is washed out (aka no longer pitch black)… readjust until perfect black is achieved and you’re set… works every time ..
I don't have a PS5. But do this, turn off HDR from the PS5. Open any SDR game, turn on HLG HDR tone mapping OFF, change color gamut Native and saturation 50 warm 50.
@@YOUNG3VITY Sharpness can give you free antialiasing with some artifacts. On my perception 15 is the max I would use but it is going to be better on Cero for most games. I used it on GTA V at 5k no AA from the game and 15. Watch this video
Correct me if I am wrong, but you mention color calibrators and how listen to them, but what you are doing here is forcing all content to be reinterpreted as HLG, which is wrong. It may look nicer to you the way cranking up the saturation looks nicer to some people, but it is an entirely inaccurate picture from the content producer's point of view. It is fine for HLG content (as it is backwards compatible), but not for non-HLG content. HLG interpreted as sRGB (backwards compatibility): Ok sRGB interpreted as HLG: Wrong
It’s a good tv but really with gaming you need 60fps because at 30fps everything just looks a juddery blurry mess. This was most definitely not an issue with my previous lcd tv. I feel that not enough attention is raised about just how bad the C1 performs at low frame rates in terms of motion.
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 yes I remember when I first bought it I put Microsoft flight simulator on to try it out and when you turn the camera to look around it looked absolutely horrible. I was convinced I had been sold a faulty tv it was that bad. But then after trying out a few other games which run at 60fps I could see this was a problem at low frame rates. I feel lots of people who buy this tv are not informed about how big of an issue this is. Don’t get me wrong it is an amazing tv but if I had known about just how terrible motion handling was at low frame rates I would have opted for lcd.
Idk I watch a video from hdtv tester. He is a professional TV calibrator. And he walks you calibrate the c1 for series x he does not mention this. Not sure I should go messing with the settings. Most games are already in hdr and I use dolby vision gaming
HDTV test knows a lot more than me but trying my settings are not going to break your TV and you might like it more. The only real Dolby vision game right now is Halo Infinite, everything else is a conversion from HDR10.
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 I will say the colors look realistic & no longer look saturated. You should definitely show you driving around and a few more games
I always just wondered like, if the TV is capable of being a certain brightness, why not just make whites in HDR the peak brightness/white they can be? It reminds me of Spinal Tap where it’s just like…why don’t you just make 10 the highest, and keep it at 10? If you have an OLED, and it’s literally black at the bottom level, why wouldn’t white just be the brightest thing, and everything scales between those two points?
Because HDR is an absolute and it is graded for a certain brightness. If the TV isn't capable of the brightness the content wants to output, then it has to do tone mapping, which means when the content brightness is below or above the TV will just output its maximum peak brightness if it has the proper tone mapping Curved applied to it. This LG C1 is capable of following the HDR content up to 800 nits on a 10% window without tone mapping when using HGIG
