@@stuffedbrains The only success I've had with my parents/relatives on this kind of shit is to dig up the written words of the given historical figure, and only tell them who said it after they react with "that's awful!" For instance, I did that Columbus quote where he praises how kind and peaceful and caring the people of Hispanola are, and then ends the paragraph with "they'll make good servants, with 50 men I could subjugate all of them". Or the quote from his one captain about r*ping a woman that Columbus kidnapped and gave to him. They react with how awful it is, THEN I say it was Columbus. That way when I say I'm happy people tear down his statues they have context for why. You could probably find lots of shock quotes from Confederates...but I dunno your mom so maybe they'd have no effect on her.
@@stuffedbrains I hope that you can someday live in a place where they will throw coffee at your face if you have a confederate flag displayed anywhere.
Bruno is so frustratingly off base that it's exhausting. He's convinced his way of thinking is right and will do any amount of mental gymnastics he has to do to rationalize them.
They could be mad that he's a black man with a white woman; or, and this is just speculation, it could be that he looks like Al Bundy in blackface... that's just my opinion tho.
Honestly, watching him balance an apple on his head like it was nothing was the most entertained I've been this entire show. Poor kid, wish we'd been born in vaguely similar time frames, we coulda been friends.
yeah it's really a bummer how he was just playing around for a spare moment & his parents seized that opportunity to act like a child MUST be on their most scholarly behavior at ALL times, no cracking up or goofing off. the whole "you don't take ANYTHING seriously" tirades that some parents do when catching their kids be kids for like 10 seconds max infuriates me to no end, even as a 22 year old myself now. I don't get why a 16 year old has to act like a mature stiff just to prove to his parents that he can "make it in the real world." like...he's still got ample time before he has to go into the real world though, right?
@@droomzy Also, I hate the idea that you have to be a serious person in general to survive in the real world. News flash, enjoying life is still possible regardless of how many responsibilities you have, and there's no reason to feel bad for having fun when the opportunity arises. Surgeons obviously can't slack off during work, but when they're off shift it turns out they're still normal people who can have any number of hobbies, including goofing off with friends. Soldiers overseas still crack jokes when they can, as well. If people with those positions can find time to stop being serious, then surely a teenager can afford to find the time as well. There's an important lesson to learning how to be serious about serious topics, but many parental figures should heed this simple advice: "Working hard _is_ important, but feeling good is important, too."
I get the vibe from his parents that they are genuinely worried about him and where his life is going, but they are responding by being really hard on him all the time.
@@MaddyBlu9724 yeah. I also imagine they were extra hard on him in front of the cameras. There is a pervasive notion in white supremacy that Black people aren't good parents, and I think there is pressure in a lot of Black families to "raise their kids right" to not fall into stereotypes, to try to avoid extra discrimination and judgment (don't know if that holds any merit anyway). As if, them letting him have fun makes them look bad.
If this wasn't pitched as a reality show I would 100% buy it as a dark sitcom about the refusal of white people to learn about racism. Instead I get exhaustion by proxy with the desire to shake the producers of this "reality" show and ask them wtf they were thinking
If this was one of those onion horror series where its a pretend reality show (a la Sex House or Pork Across America) it would be really interesting 100%
@@sarahgent2674 yeah. This show would make a great satire. The fact that it takes itself so seriously just makes it funnier though. And more racist, of course.
You could have a real good satire without changing much maybe even have the white family's "disguises" get increasingly offensive each episode too until they're just in full minstrel getup by the season finale
@@coolboyyo654 that would have been genuinely hilarious! I can see an ending where they really thought they pulled it off the entire time but then everyone they met tells them that they knew the entire time and just didn’t want to say anything because of the cameras. It really sucks they couldn’t do something better with this especially because their entire cast are literal actors.
I feel very intensely that Nick's adolescent struggles should not have been aired on public television, holy shit. Get the kid some help and get the camera out of his face. We can talk about the racism of the educational environment that systemically penalizes and retains young boys of color without using a living example who was being victimized as a minor *in that very moment*. As an educator I find that pretty fucked up. And I especially feel for him because out of the six family members on this show, he is very obviously the one who is LEAST trying to draw attention to himself. Poor kid.
You can tell how different Bruno's energy was in that AA community compared to the white places. Like in all scenarios where he is in a predominantly white location he is very talkative and approchable yet in a predominantly black location he isn't talkative and is very standoffish. Like Bruno is literally like "If you go into a place angry or happy then people will respond angry or happy." BUT that for some reason doesn't apply when in black environments, then it's just racism and black people being angry. Bruno is like the amalgamation of every racist white person's thoughts and feelings I wouldn't believe this was real if I didn't already know this was a reality show.
@@AmyAberrant while true that it was acted/scripted, the point still stands that the show was supposed to be inspirational and say something meaningful about racism. At least from what I understand of it. And in that regard, it failed miserably.
Bruno is exactly like that meme "I'm an empath, sometimes I can tell how people are feeling simply by deciding how I think they feel in my own mind and instantly believing it."
@@rhiannar9389 I mean you can, but people are always bringing up shit people did and said in the past to attack them for it. People have lost jobs over other people bringing up "oh you said this thing I didn't like on twitter 15 years ago". So maybe you meant it as a joke, but people DO attack people for things they said a long time ago, including trying to get those people fired.
As a halfrican both of them talking about how people would touch their hair all the time. This exact thing would happen to me the most in a white washed church and they would always say “wow. You are so behaved and respectful” like wtf do you mean?
I’m going to say some stuff, it’s not meant to be dismissive, but I live in a very very white and poor part of the country. They’re very isolated, sheltered and ignorant. Their literal exposure to the outside is next to nothing. Many people around me can be born, live and die without ever having significantly interfaced with a black person at all. I honestly can’t blame them mich for saying ignorant shit. I’ll blast them for racist shit. But they’re ignorant. Bruno is the same kind of ignorant, but there’s a few differences: he comes from a fairly affluent place he has the ability to interface with different communities but instead shelters himself in the suburbs where he interfaces with other “whites” who also similarly segregated themselves from their broader community. They end up so out of touch with reality, living beside people who share their intentional ignorance and start portraying themselves as victims of society as opposed to having self-selected to live on an island. My poor ignorant neighbors embarrass me. Bruno, on the other hand, disgusts me.
Nick being put on the spot and forced to feel humiliated for just being a fucking CHILD while his parents tore him down constantly broke my heart. He’s 16 for fucks sake, why do you expect him to explain the complexities of racism in front of a camera on the spot after he wanted to give his parents a laugh?
I think tbh his parents are worried about him, they seem pretty levelheaded and intelligent and he’s being uncommunicative, blowing money on watches or whatever. They def need to talk to him differently but I kind of think I get why they’re being hard on him Edit: ah. The being kicked out (for years!?) is kind of what I meant. And I hope this doesn’t sound super bad but he’s honestly very good looking and I feel like girls would throw themselves at him easily, and he doesn’t seem very responsible. But regardless there’s honestly something weird going on here, I wonder if he got therapy….and it’s not good that he was on national tv :O poor kid has no privacy
Man I feel so bad for Nick. He's clearly struggling a lot, it doesn't seem like he's getting a lot of support from ANY of the adults/authority figures in his life (parents, teachers, etc.), and now he has a bunch of cameras stuck in his face? Leave the kid alone, damn! Yeah, that knife/Asian comment was some weird racist nonsense, but he's a _kid_ for crying out loud. He needs some support.
Man, Nick is so committed to the teenage boy machismo, trying to be a real tough guy thing. So when he kind of agreed with the girl asking if he was worried about himself it was like a punch in the gut.
I am so glad Nick is on this show. He doesn't give one single fuck. He isn't taking this seriously at ALL and I LOVE that for him. He is here to cause a ruckus and that is exactly the tone shift we need.
I mean, I wish he would care a bit about the fact that he let those white kids in the other episodes walk all over him. I’ve seen a lot of guys like that grow up and most of the time they continue to be self-hating
bruno after entering a black community in blackface: i felt unwelcome, i felt watched, they were angry.... Are they fully convinced they look black when they put on their black face? Do they forget??? Is it that they just don't know what blackface is or are they committed to the bit?? i am confusion
Also they have camera people with them. Even if I believed Bruno was black the cameras would have me feeling a bit off because I would think they're trying to see how the black community feels about interracial couples and I hate the idea of "observing black people".
bruno 100% looks like a white man in blackface i dont blame them for giving him side looks if there were any lol. and then he goes on to say that he "feels racism" too 😭 what racism?? against white people??
I keep thinking about the people who encountered bruno in blackface, do you think they looked at him and had the thought 'is he...? No.....that cant be it...'
That would drive me insane. Like something's uncanny and just.. wrong but you can't say anything because you already feel like you're crazy for thinking it. I'd just start assuming I was in a horror movie and that this was me being introduced to the ghoul that would haunt me until my demise.
Yeah, he just doesn't really like a black guy. Carmen and Rose looked decently convincing, but Bruno straight-up just looks like a white guy with really dark makeup on. I think if I'd encountered him in combination with the white woman he was with (his girlfriend) and their black tour guide, I'd sure think something weird was going on even if I didn't immediately jump to "Is that a white guy in blackface??"
Nick is honestly so funny and Rose seems like she's trying her best, but Bruno is just so exhasuting to watch like I take psychological damage everytime he's on screen
Watched this entire show with my best friend because of y'all and honestly, what super bothered me the most was how they had to shoe-horn in a message of unity and equality at the end, like anyone on the show had actually learned something or become friends with the other family. It felt very disingenuous because Bruno and Carmen seriously didn't learn anything, and it was almost like the show kept intentionally framing the black family as being in the wrong when most the time they weren't.
That's always the issue with these shows, just like Dr Phil's House of Hatred. All they end up doing is putting oppressed people into unsafe situations where they're expected to educate and tolerate the bigoted/ignorant others, meanwhile those others get to just go off consequence-free because of course this framework doesn't stop them from having their inherent privileges.
I think maybe Bruno's vibes are so bad people naturally avoid him or give him dirty looks even when he's not in blackface, so he literally can't tell a difference when it's because of racism.
I am so taken aback by the knife story, I know I shouldn't be surprised but damn... I used to carry a pocket knife around all the time when I was a kid, and they took that as grounds to deny him an education? And completely change the course of his life???
Banned him from school for TWO YEARS just for having a knife in his backpack? For real. I'm torn because that sounds so unbelievably unfair and ridiculous that I feel like something else must've happened (like maybe he also a grenade in there), but also I know racism exists and some institutions are dumb as fuck with punishing kids regardless of race so it also doesn't seem farfetched that a kid would be banned from school for two years over just having a knife that he didn't threaten anyone with.
I know someone who in high school had a boxcutter they used for work in their parked car and they got expelled and had to fight hard to get back in. It's so weird to me to see that happen, when you have cases like the recent Oxford HS shooting where people just didn't give enough of a shit to actually act.
@@FrenkTheJoy the argument for "expelled because racism" doesn't really hold up either like? the school to prison pipeline if frighteningly real and it's far more likely that he would've been moved to a correctional school (not sure if they have an actual name) or sadly, just arrested for something stupid. It feels like such a manufactured situation? like even if it's got some basis in reality they had to make it a story for thr TV show so changed all the details to just not make sense.
@@goganii He said something about all Asian people he knows having knives/weapons on them, which is borderline racist. Jordan then described it as suddenly being handed a baby, cause it was such a sudden and insane comment about Asian people. Some people think he was talking about ninja's which would make it straight up racist.
Everyone on this show keeps saying ‘the opposite race’ and that does not sit right at all. The opposite! I’m not sure what the implications are but they aren’t good.
It's giving vibes like blackness is the antithesis of whiteness. And if someone is prejudiced they probably associate good things with whiteness (like being articulate, intelligent, kind etc) and project the lack of those things onto people that they see as the opposite. So they are quicker to assume blk people must've done something wrong when a situation goes south because they never see themselves being the source of the problem in this dynamic. I don't know for sure but that's a feeling I keep getting consistently and in other ways too from the yt folks who say that.
ugh, at least Carmen's makeup, as god awful as it is, actually makes her look somewhat like she's a POC? The hair really sells it. Bruno just looks like he's in blackface imo. Which...isn't wrong, (he is, obviously, in blackface) but still.
At my school this white dude sexually assaulted me and threatened to stab my friends. He even admitted to having a knife and bringing it to school. HE DIDNT EVEN GET DETENTION.
In middle school I got beaten by a group of white kids two separate times for being brown and they didn’t get in trouble. When my teacher called me out for my poor grades in front of the class and I started crying and said “you can’t talk to me like that”, as I was struggling w anxiety, I got detention for “lashing out”.
But yeah in conclusion, I’m so sorry these shit heads exist. As coloured people, we are supposed to absorb these experiences like trauma makes us stronger instead of us having a childhood like conforming white kids. I hope you’re okay
Omfg, I was thinking this exact thing! Friggin' "we don't talk about Bruno, no no no" just swirling around in my head. I *wish* no one would talk about this Bruno. He's gross af! 🤣🤣
I have watched this multiple times, and every time Jordan says, "I feel like someone just handed me a baby," I can not breathe for laughing. It is such a spot on expression.
The white family is not a real family! This is what’s on Wikipedia: “Despite being called "The Wurgels" (Carmen's name by marriage) the three participants were not exactly a real family in the strictest sense of the term. Film actor (referred to here as a teacher) Bruno Marcotulli portrays Bruno Wurgel; his purported girlfriend Carmen, and her daughter Rose Bloomfield (a child actor who starred on the Disney television show Movie Surfers, until she quit shortly after being cast in Black.White.) portray white middle-class suburbanites the Wurgel family from Santa Monica, California.” That’s some BS.
@@grace-qp2gw It probably was scripted. I feel like Bruno is doing the most. That’s why I googled the show and his real name popped up. He’s an actor and Wurgel isn’t his last name. 2/3 of the people in that family are actors.
The knife in the bag thing just reminded me of how there was this kid in my class in 8th grade who got ten days of OSS or ISS (out of school or in school suspension can’t remember which) all because he had a carabiner clip in his backpack from a boy scouts trip the weekend before that he forgot to take out and someone thought it was brass knuckles and reported him
Okay, Nick being expelled in 8th somehow makes a lot of sense, since his attitude towards things and general like social norms + personality is very sorta stalled there a bit. And I say this as someone who started homeschooling at the same time Nick got expelled. Like, it kinda vibes with him since he wasn't in the environment of high school and stuff? Socially?
you know what - if i, while going about my day, encountered strangers just,, in the wild doing blackface?? with no warning or even confirmation that that's what was happening??? i'd lose my entire mind. that shit would surely keep me up at night. that would be a thought that gets filed directly in the "Maybe We **Are** In A Simulation...?" folder of my brain to be fixated on in the future again and again. jfc this show should pay for the psychological damages to every bistander who was unwillingly subjected to these war crimes shkgsfjlddg
god whenever the camera pans over to bruno i cant help but laugh bc of how deadly serious he looks and how he is so incredibly wrong. he cannot be a real person, i don't believe it
I felt kinda bad for Nick watching this, something must’ve happened to him that made him feel like he should hide his feelings from others and strive for independence early on. His parents are right that he shouldn’t be blowing money on watches he doesn’t need, but that doesn’t solve the deeper problem. I thought that sending him on an outing with someone about his age and starting to ask questions was a good start to a solution.
"Can I ask you a personal question? What grade are you in?" I'm going to assume that was ACTUALLY a prompt from production for drama purposes, but it does kind of come off as she's making some not-so-great assumptions
@@FrenkTheJoy yeah, exactly, my point is that it's NOT a personal question unless A) someone told you it would be or B) you assume someone's in a different grade than expected based on their skin colour.
it was such a mistake to watch this immediately after getting over the stomach flu, my entire body hurts and laughing is only making it worse but here i am, continuing to watch it
I need to know how anyone was convinced they were black. Especially Bruno. He was the most obvious one. And the black lady fed into Bruno's racism by telling him (without any facts) that they were staring cause he was with a white woman. Number one, did they ever hold hands? How did they know which woman he was with? And Two, black men often date non black women so I doubt that would be an issue. It's more likely that they were staring because he looked like a white man in black face.
This show is absolutely bonkers and these videos are great, and also I would watch Jordan and Jarvis talk about or do literally anything. These two men bring me such joy, individually and especially together. (Also I have bp2 and adhd and the way they normalize those things in their podcast makes me feel like everything is gonna be okay.)
I am dying inside well past vitriol and straight to existential doom, but it’s really nice to know someone is getting comfort out of it lol. I hope you have a nice day
We laugh but Nick being unschooled is something I learned about with having my mixed kid in a predominantly white district told she was too unruly for the school cause she had had behavior problems in kindergarten. She was bored. She punched a kid in the stomach for making fun of her friend's clothes once. She poked a kid who told her that her skin color looked like poop.
I think the son is just not giving a response. He knows what racism is, he’s just annoyed and bored and doesn’t want to talk about it so he thinks ‘I don’t know’ means they can stop talking to him about it.
That's funny, because when you held up that DBZ pillow in Jarvis's video, my first thought was, "He just had that in his hands?" But now there's context for it.
Alright wait, it's bizarre to me that this apparently cowboy-themed place is so ridiculously racist when actual cowboys were largely black or hispanic.
As soon as I saw the name 'cowboy country club' I immediately panicked cuz the name alone tells you who goes there, you don't even need a confederate flag
I literally recognize everywhere they’re going in this show and filming these locations through this family’s eyes makes me feel like I’m in the upside down
I left school in 8th grade too, but by taking my GED to graduate early, and Im like 100 percent sure that when I was 16 & someone would ask me what grade I was in Id just say "no" too
Y'all make this nightmare of a show absolutely hilarious to watch, your banter is top tier. I've had to pause and go back so many times in both videos because I was laughing too hard to understand what was going on. Y'all are the best! Thanks for doing episode 3!
I'm glad they brought up the thing about their hair and people saying it feels like sheep wool. Cause honestly as someone whose biracial the amount of times people feel the need to touch my hair and say how it's "poofy" or "fluffy" has honestly always bothered me. Like I'm not a dog or any other type of animal I'm a human being and being touched or talked to like I'm some type of creature genuinely has always made me uncomfortable.
This legitimately hurts my brain. I have face blindness so I need to use other features to distinguish people. Doesn't matter how absolutly terrible the makeup looks I get disoriented every time they swap
Idk what it is with them. I worked retail for two holiday seasons, and the middle-aged white women were easily the third-worst variety of customer. And I'm white so it's not like it was a race thing with how they were treating me. Middle-aged people are just weirdly entitled, but especially the white women. I absolutely cannot understand why people feel the need to touch others. People would reach into my sister's stroller when she was a baby to rub her face and stuff, like??? You're a stranger, literally what the fuck?? Don't touch people's skin, stomachs, or hair! Don't even ask to do it! Rude! Gross! Racist in some cases!
It's so refreshing to hear these two. I've always wanted to talk with others of mixed race because it's hard to describe, especially when your families are polar opposites unfortunately
Seeing a lot of (deserved) voice appreciation, but not enough about just how fucking funny Jordan is. “The ice will come unto you.” That shit is comparable to the Zeffo bit.
