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This coming out right before the Story is ACTUALLY HILARIOUS

The line between insanity and genius is truly thin, you my friend have done something that is similar to a drunk person coming up with their best idea yet or a big pile of nothing, let him cook. Edit: Well damn you cooked a gourmet meal my friend!

Are you...Elio?

Assuming that Aeons take the meaning of their Path to the most extreme definition, Order could lead to the eradication of free will, for free will is the source of all chaos. Another bad way Order can be seen is through Dictatorship like say North Korea. As oppressive as that place is, Order prevails there. So maybe Xipe and the Path of Harmony beat Ena and the Path of Order just because Harmony is more popular due to sounding a lot nicer on paper. (Though I still think that the endgoal for the Path of Harmony is to fuse every living being in the world into Xipe as part of a universal-sized hivemind. Hence THEIR jigsaw puzzle-like design. THEY are slowly collecting new pieces for THEMSELVES)

the way you got this almost exactly right is scary

Bro got the update early

I think xipe absorbing Ena is not make Ena dissapear but coexsist with them as Xipe and Ena harmoniusly exist togather

Bro officially became the Matpat of HSR.

I never questioned the existence of Ena's motiff in Penacony, cuz we already had examples of Aeonless factions that still carries its culture/ ideology like the Nameless and the Knights of beauty. So I thought they were designs originally made by the group that was previously part of the Order faction. The thing is that they always says "Engulf", "Assimilated", "Absorved" and etc so I assumed they never really disappeared and their characteristics still remains in the main Aeon. This theory has some interesting points tho!

Ena's design exists in Xipe if you look closely. The golden headbands with Ena's eye, the eye behind Xipe, Gold, White hair resembles the veil. If the eye cintrolled the puppet, maybe the eyes control Xipe

This actually came true! Wth?! I have an inkling about Ena still being alive and could be one of the faces of Xipe. Ena would return and may interfere with the Charmony Festival, giving back the order due to so much confusion happening. Did not thought that there are still believers of Order.

I have another theory about Xipe that is also a bit crazy (but that right now I don't think would be disproved by anything we know) we see xipe has 3 faces, 1 is likely xipe herself, the other is ena but who is the third one? my theory is that that is Idrila the aeon of beauty that also got absorbed by the harmony, if you think about it kinda make sense for something like beauty to also collide with harmony

I just noticed the Eye behind Ena is the same as Adventurine, and im guessing by extension, Gaiathra Triclops

Something to consider is that Ena *is* the eye (or at least, the being who owns the eye, hidden behind the angelic doll). Note that the prominent figure in Ena's illustration has strings like those of a marionette, which indicates that it isn't the Aeon, but rather an intermediary for them. This puts a spin on The Order that many may not have considered: Ena is very much about control, and may be exerting far more influence on Xipe than had been let on. For instance, that swirl of color behind Xipe's head looks a bit like a distorted eye to me. I also have to wonder if the timing of Ena's disappearance and Nanook's emergence is less than coincidental. After all, Nanook seeks the destruction of everything for the sake of eliminating the chaos of existence as much as anything else, and an Aeon with as much influence in the universe as Ena may well have been too big to have been entirely absorbed by Xipe. Maybe the aspects of Order that were incompatible with Harmony were ejected, only to coalesce around the will of a man who sought the destruction of those who destroyed his world. All of this is to say that IMO Ena still lives on in the Star Rail universe, and if they ever "come back" as Ena, they might "come back wrong", or at least in a different form from what they were.

Honestly bro, this is an incredible take. And you should never apologize for speculating as long as you have evidence like you do in this video. Great job.

Xipe doesn't absorb the way other aeons would. They just become part of the harmony hive mind

I remember that once completing Swarm Disaster, Herta hints that Tayzzyronth may return

This aged like fine wine

i think the existence of bug swarm also lends some credence to this theory cause even though the aeon of propagation is long dead remains of it still lives on through the bugs

You're cooking, don't stop. They supposedly called all factions of the universe to one point and they want peace? Nah, all chaos and Edna will eventually appear to say "Order will be upon ye!".

The line between genius and insanity is thin and you sir are the genius

Order needs Harmony to exist, and Harmony can only be born from Order. However, when Harmony isn't enough to keep Chaos away, Order needs to brought on stronger than ever to keep things harmonious. So, it's logical how Order became part of Harmony. After all, if something is born from you, you should help it grow, right? Harmony and Order are two sides of the same coin. Both strive for the same things, just that Order is more forceful and restrictive. Both mean similar things, but with different ways of telling you that. It's just like Voracity and Destruction. Both are sides of the same coin. Both are about annihilating things, just in different ways. The Voracity wishes to consume all existing matter, and then itself, while The Destruction wishes to destroy all existing things, and then itself. That's why I think these two will, or already have, come across each other and one will assimilate the other. I mean, Ouroboros has disappeared from the radar, and we know that Nanook still exists, so there is no actual proof denying this, although there is no solid proof agreeing with this either. But still, even if it didn't happen yet, it will likely happen some day.

i watched you since the very beginning of your HSR content and i have to tell you that it's the first time i'm feeling that fascinated by your content . this was the best video i ever saw so far .

It may not be as crazy as you think - in the previews we’ve been given for the boss fight in 2.2, we see what looks like an Aeon reaching down and touching the boss. If you really look at it, the light blue purply space of Xipe’s skin is shown, but THEY seem to be wearing white gloves, which we’ve never seen in THEIR art. Although they are not gloves, Ena’s hands are white. After pondering that on my own for a while, I theorized that it COULD be Ena either trying to break free or take over. Not to mention the blatant puppetry image of that boss.

Man makes valid connections. Thinks he's insane. I guess we just had to look into it a bit more lol

Xipe never glanced and was never associated to Penacony at all. Penacony was firstly a Preservation domain and eventually turned into a Trailblaze haven. Ask yourself where the Harmony plays a role? The Sweet Dream was a masquerade of the Order, passed off as the Harmony. The Order would have been rejected if they were transparent. Robin is the first true representation of the Harmony, so we dont really know many followers of the Harmony yet. Its par for the course with Penacony though, we’ve been conned on so many levels. Edit: Xipe glanced at us and we obtained the Path of Harmony as a result. We are the 2nd TRUE Harmony character in the story, Robin being the first. That means that other planet mentioned about being under the Family/Harmony? Its bullshit. That planet is under the spell of Ena’s Order as well, probably under a dream if its in the Asdana star system. Hopefully we brawl with this problematic organization as we continue with the story. The Family is clearly of the Order and lying to the entire cosmos in its attempt to usurp the Harmony.

So "The return of Daddy Akhivili" is upon us? Heck yeah!!

There's also the map of Penacony resembling an Eye in reality

I can't explain clearly here but, if you read the novel "I Shall Seal The Heavens" by Er Gen, you'll understand a bit about aeonhood and why some aeons get absorbed or killed by other aeons. I know there's no such thing called aeon in that novel but, the concept is very much the same. Some people gain power, understanding the law of the universe, the requirement met, ascend to aeonhood, there's other people with different but same understanding or conflicting law. When first HSR mention people can become aeon, ISSTH is the first in my mind.

I find it kind of weird how Ena was assimilated by Xipe and not someone like HooH. Order and equilibrium have more overlapping themes imo

if ena return because the amount of chaos in penacony, then what can make beauty/trailblaze return? ik they are missing, but we assume the same case happen to them

Never Apologise for Speculate Theories!! It is interesting and it could be a thing, but we just don't know yet.

Hold on... didn't Aha help Harmony absorb Order? Wouldn't it really funny if an absorbed Order got released screaming bloody murder and justice upon everyone in Penaconi?

I really like this theory and It's quite hilarious if you think about that the freaking Aeon of Permeance was one of the first Aeons to bite the dust or DID THEY? These so called "Deaths" of the presumed dead Aeons are all shrouded in mystery... especially Akivili's

don't know if i'm going to word this correctly but if we do go on the basis of your theory; aventurine whole plan would make so much more sense, given that originally I believe Opal was the one tasked for Penacony but was swapped by Diamond,maybe Diamond knew that he has something related with Ena after all (meaning the theory of the eyes is also valid)

This is what I’ve been saying for a while now… I left comments on other videos about this exact theory. I have said it that Ena has dominion over Xipe to some degree and Xipe’s path of harmony that it represents wouldn’t go out of its way to destroy another Aeon since that would go against the path. Worlds created by Ena and follow this order also fall this is stated in a sim uni entry. It relates back to what Welt was talking about with Acheron. And is exactly what is happening to Penacony in the memoria, the Family is trying to stop Penacony from falling apart and hiding it from the public. But there is also the enigmata of Penacony, whose entire purpose is hiding the “truth” of penacony, since that’s the pony of the path of enigmata, it also explains the history of Penacony with cartoons which relates to history fictionologists. It’s obvious in design that Penacony is built on the order, Ena has the dream bubbles and the eye guy in her art meaning Penacony is one such world that will get destroyed… even the title Watchmaker I assume is based on The Watchmaker Analogy which is a teleological argument for God that states that a design implies there is a designer… but the Watchmaker in a readable states they have abilities of the enigmata. But the enigmata and order don’t have to go against each other, hiding things to keep power over a situation works for the order who has dominion over the harmony, but it’s obvious the order also needs harmony as harmony is the broader path which implies that Harmony doesn’t need order but Order requires an amount of harmony to not lose control… Ena is stated in the sim universe entry to be a control freak. So the Order and Enigmata may very well be working together on Penacony, to keep a level of harmony even if through dishonesty, which will inevitably lead to the planet’s fall, even in history Penacony started as a prison planet which is about control.

keep cooking brother on a side note for some reason after seeing the thumbnail and title alone, i thought the wacky theory would be that ena is actually enigmata xd

I remember seeing a theory on Tiktok about how Ratio could be an Emanator of Elation.

I did get the Order vibe from playing 2.1 and from the 2.2 trailer, you're cooking

they could also not be trying to "bring ena back" but instead "bring the path back" by someone trying to ascend into aeonhood and becoming the aeon of order, maybe they think order is better than harmony because of their own goals, since order at it's core is made by control, while harmony don't.

The dumbest theory turned out to be true 😭

or Ena is the one who's been in control the whole time and staged her 'assimilation' to avoid paying her debt to Qlipoth. i.e. she's been disguising herself with Xipe's avatar. The choir singing to Xipe and the beyond the sky choir, the eyes everywhere in Penacony, the family being more of a hierarchy than a harmonious group: maybe the IPC 's goal is to force Xipe to reveal her true form, Ena.

i wish i saw this a bit sooner but it not crazy from honkaverse lore perspective, assimilation don't destroy a path so Order still exist within Harmony is 100% true even without knowing the newest story, the process that would destroy a path is cannibalize, where a path will devour another path

The angel like species in penacony also have halos that look like Ena's(same motifs form, color etc)

Pretty sure they literally showed Enas hand in the livestream...

I do believe when one Aeon deceased, the influence and power isn't really gone. It either create or influence a new path and aeon. Right after permanence gone, abundance shows up and become stronger. No wonder people in xianzhou gather and to get the blessing. The people who are decendant of Long still exist. Meanwhile Aeon trailblaze and Beauty is long gone. I do believe Idrilla also gone. But the people who believe in their aeon are not gone as well. Same with Aeon Ena. I think the factions simply merge into other factions or act in shadow. Just like stellaron. It is not gone completely. It can only be stored or contained in something.

Huh... funny how that turned out xD

I think a lost Path could resurface, since the idea behind a path does not need an Aeon to exist (take for example Argenti and the Knights of Beauty). So if Order is indeed to return as a result of the events in Penacony, I would wager we'd have a new Aeon of Order spearheading the Path.

I have a crazy theory, near the end of the peakony story, there was a planet that was of the beauty, idrilla, and we know we will get March 8 this year or next year, what is March is an emanator of the beauty, or maybe even idrilla herself who disappeared after being trapped in ice, march has already said she has a special connection with all things cute in the high cloud quintet companion story

I believe Ena is still alive inside xipe theory mostly because of the hand in the boss fight with Sunday in phase 3, it looks like xipe hand in some parts but it also has this white color in some parts. What if it's like a sign that Ena is slowly taking over xipe?. It'll be cool if there is a story about an aeon who is taken over by another aeon inside of them or maybe they will merge

You almost at 10k Sub....alway remember when you started..... Also make video about galaxy Ranger since there are more lore for them...and the star that boothil being to Penacony and he said that when a hero fall and relic shot to the sky....countless star will be....something I forgot

Chat the fact that you literally predicted it is crazy

BROTHER YOU COOKED 😂😂😂

In the new sunday boss that is coming you can see enas hand that meets sundays hand before going to burst, you can also see that ena is the eye controlling the doll through strings and the Sunday boss is like a doll

This aged well

Considering that Xipe is a pluralistic, thousand-faced entity which has its own avatars exist in the form of the Harmonic Strings, it wouldn't actually be too far-fetched that Ena was merely downgraded and intergrated into this plural existence. Like you said, if Ena does manage to resurface even briefly, we'd be seeing an event that turns knowledge about Aeons upside down. A Black Swan event you could say. Something that's only obvious in hindsight; just because there's no solid proof of something doesn't make it impossible. Despite Kafka using it as an example as one of the ways for an Aeon to die, Xipe/Ena is the only case of its kind told to us... and Herta herself expressed how they don't know nearly enough about how the dynamics of similar Paths work since many other Paths that overlap don't end up like Xipe/Ena. In other words, in the same way that Finality existing didn't prevent Nanook from rising, Equilibrium just existing doesn't really stop Ena from returning. Since you mentioned the Qliphoth-debt theory, I imagine you might have read a certain post in reddit... so I'd just add by saying Jing Liu might be right about the chess game between Aeons. 'Paths' are written as 'destiny' in the original chinese, so mortals walking the Paths are indirectly taking up a piece of destiny in favor of one Aeon or another.

I have a crazy theory that there never was a Xipe! It has only been Ena. Ena wearing a disguise. Harmony shouldn't trigger Ena's Prima Mobile because it is a form of order, albeit a softer one. I subscribe to this because of how controlling Sunday is, and because of the hints we get from the teaser. Those aint just Watchmaker clockwork robots!

I mean, the goal of the Harmony is the assimilation of all things to be part of a harmonious family. And the Order most likely wanted things to be rigid and together, in a way that Harmony (a broader subject) was able to subsume. In this understanding, Harmony itself is the Order that Ena used to embody, because Harmony itself encompasses that idea. While Ena may still exist within Xipe, the role Ena has is effectively rended useless because it's been outsourced to the Harmony. I think that while Ena coming back is unbelievable, the presence of Ena certainly is relevant. Maybe we'll see her or something idk.

Like Akivili being the trash raccoon trailblazer ... Aven becoming the emanator of nous, order and nihility ... good luck everyone on their pulls ❤❤❤ ... I have 25 wishes and won e1 Aventurine !!!

Ever since we got those first leaks about The Great Septimus boss this exact theory has been on my mind

I love this theory! And I find very suspicious 3 stonehearts are involved in just returning 1 planet. In Jarilo-VI case it was only 1 stoneheart. So I guess there's something bigger in their plans than just returning 1 planet to the IPC.

You were right it is a crazy theory and my interpretation of the eons being absorbed is it’s there production in our plane of existence that gets absorbed and they themselves still exists in their higher plane of existence

Well, with the way penacony is going any thing can be a possibility as good as any other... the next part of penacony is going to be a wild ride so this might be the wild that will happen...

can someone explain to me the difference of order and equilibrium? is it like order is peace and equilibrium is balance? in my opinion, wouldn't like HooH absorb Ena or vice versa instead of Xipe absorbing Ena?

I always thought it could be bad that ena was absorbed because the order seemed really important like with the swarm

Maybe it was Ena that actually absorbed XIpe and is using? Or what if she just leveled up? lol

I mean Ena "returned" for a split second in Sundays boss fight lending the Embryo of Philosophie her power. She as an aeon is as far as we know still a part of Xipe and that probably won't change. As for the IPC thing we just have to wait and see. Patch 2.3 will be about the IPC's/Jades arrival in Penacony so who knows maybe they actually bring this up. The idea of aeons existing even after death is something I could see, BUT I personally think that that's only the case if an aeon got absorbed by another aeon. If it gets killed by aeons like tayzzyronth did, then they will probably be dead forever. I think that if a aeon gets absorbed that the aeon is just inprisioned in the aeon which absorbed it and not straight up dead, therefore still existing in some form.

YOU ACTUALLY COOKED WITH THIS THEORY YOU GOT IT SO RIGHT!!! you predicted the 2.2 story!!!

Honestly i believe it is order that absorbed harmony and not vice versa. And history fictionologists basically work with the family to spread to whole world that order died and now its just harmony that is around. Reason being is to look cuter to the whole cosmos. Order is hated by basically anyone because order was forcing themselves on everyone. The Family acting with Ena rather than Xipe checks this out.

If you look closely to ena's art you can see some strings around as she is controlled by some one or she's the puppet and the real enna or someone is pulling strings behind her It's just a theory btw

can't believe you made a crazy theory turns out most o them to be true, whilst the others are still in question or simply been proven yet. are you mihoyo internal stafff or something. how did you manage to make most of this theory came true?😂😂😂. anyways i like your theory video. awaiting the new one. and i already sub so dont worry. you deserve it.👍👍👍👍👍

after listening to your theory, i might think one of Xipe's 3 faces is actually Ena after their being absorbed.

Spoilers for 2.2 This aged, extremely well

The new boss next patch looks suspiciously similar to Ena, and has a similar theming as well.

Harmony is a form of order they follow the same principle but they function differently. Also i highly doubt the IPC has any plans regarding aeons, they literally go against their aeon's desires; that's why Qlipoth is not interested whatsoever in the IPC as a whole. EDIT: the reason why the harmony path converged with order is because they are very similar to each other, they flow from the imaginary tree in the same direction following the same principle. for example, destruction will never meet harmony because they flow in opposite directions to each other (it's like ying yang, black and white etc.) hence why the "natural merge" will never occur. they could kill each other tho...this being the second method on how 2 aeons can merge.

If you complete the Swarm Disaster and find all Trailblaze Secrets, Herta tells you that she believes that Tayzzyronth might one day return. She doesn’t expand on her thoughts, which just leaves you guessing how she came to such a conclusion. In the Cavern of Corrosions, where we get our Relics, you’ll come to realize that all of the Caverns are called Paths of something different. Paths that don’t have an Aeon, or perhaps, minor Paths that fall under the Major Paths. Whether they’re minor Paths or Aeonless Paths, it still reveals that a nearly infinite amount of Paths do exist, so the Path of Order still exists, it’s just one of many other minor Paths under the Major Path of Harmony. This gives us many strange indications, technically speaking, the Path of Order and Path of Harmony has always existed, but the Path of Order gained an Aeon while the Path of Harmony remained Aeonless until Xipe came around. We’ve been told that the Ascension of an Aeon gives rise to a new Path, but this isn’t the complete truth. The Paths have existed before Aeons, they just simply aren’t empowered until an Aeon awakens on that Path. All Pathstriders are among the Path of the Aeon, but they don’t walk the same exact Path, but their own minor Path, some minor Paths are bigger than other minor Paths, heck, a minor Path can be bigger than a Major Path if the Major Path of that minor Path is big enough! Now, before we get into a Path Size Comparison Contest, let’s get back to Ena the Order. If Ena makes a return, it must be done in a way that the Path of Order is fundamentally recognized as its own Path despite being a technical minor Path to the Path of Harmony. But what could create such a fundamental declaration for the Order’s sake? Would any of the Aeons be that bothered by Ena’s assimilation? Perhaps not … but what if an Aeon has already created such a declaration? Mythus the Enigmata! Born from Remembrance, we don’t know to what extent this suggests, is Mythus a fragment of Fuli that gained consciousness and decided to pursue a entirely different Path of its own, or … was the Path of Enigmata a minor Path of the Major Path of Remembrance, and Mythus was able to declare this minor Path as it’s own Path, independent of the Major Path of Remembrance? Gallagher tells us that History Fictionologist were involved in helping Penacony out, and the questionable Historical Records suggest their presence as well, but why? Why would this faction of Enigmata show up in Penacony, they aren’t really known for giving a helping hand. Until we learn something more, I want to throw in the assumption that History Fictionologist had something to do with the Family showing up to Penacony. It’s possible that the History Fictionologist are planning to revitalize another minor Path, the minor Path of Order.

U cooked, need to post the next video soon 🤞🏼

I mean, Elio *is* a cat, why is it even a "theory"? As for the topic of the video, it isn't too far-fetched. At least, not too crazy to imagine as I've definitely seen this theory more than a few times online already.

In order to maintain harmony their should be an order that why xipe absorb aeon of order

You got everything right except the fact that ena is the eye. Not the puppet

Here is even dumber suggestion. What if Eno or the Dreamchaser was created by the Stellaron. We know a Stellaron can grant wishes, is it possible that somebody on Penacony wished for Aeon of Order (or for its power)? judging from events on Jarilo-VI and Loufu, everything is possible.

What is this level of prediction...

This is a good theory. I don't what you're talking about

I think Xipe is the combination of ena, the propagation and idrila.

Spoilers for 2.1 below. I think it's less of "Trying to collect a debt" and more trying to free Ena from Xipe's path, and regain an unfathomably powerful ally. Also, Ena has 3 Eyes, two of which are closed, and the third floats alongside THEM, and so does Xipe, but the "Giathra eye" is inverted in colour. The Blue ring is on the outside of the purple. and the 3 eyes are worn as a Crown of sorts on Xipe's three faces. I think that Giathra Triclops could have been Ena, and when Ena disappeared, it caused the sudden chaos of Sigonia IV, and thus "why we would be born into a world like this". I also think it could be possible that Ena still somewhat existing is plausible, considering how recently compared to the downfall of Sigonia IV society, that Aventurine got the Giathra Eyes, as according to the dialogue in the quest, only the chosen of Giathra Triclops have those sorts of eyes. It would make sense for a Cosmic Entity with power beyond our comprehension to be able to tell that _this_ specific person with the gift of luck could eventually aid in freeing THEM. So many layers to this, but idk exacts on the timeframe for most of the events, so this could be a bit off, but still something to think about! EDIT: It also seems like one of the Planets in Ena's official art looks like Sigonia IV, being just above and just to the left of the two Ringed Planets.

The emanator of equilibrium is the most strongest character in the game it have 2 elements quantum and imaginary it also cannot be affected by nihility or abundance 😵‍💫

You're one of the writers of HSR, aren't you?

I don't think this is dumb! I think this is great!

spoiler warning i saw the hand of this aeon blessing sunday in his boss form in the leaks

you did it... you beautiful mf you did it

Jade dis mention starting the extraction

For meta reasons, I don’t think this will happen But it would be cool

Honestly aeons are probably more an physical manifestation of ideology and not an actual force and even if the aeon that represents said ideology is gone that ideology can remain

no because the way you were right about this....

oh my god

well well well…

To that the theory is becoming true is insane

he cooked a feast 🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥

No no, you have a point

I love this idea :p Yes, its crazy, but i think its possible