Thomas Nelson Kjv Sovereign Collection Bible 

Thank you so much for the info! Have you heard of any issues with the binding? Thank you kindly!🌷

Thank you!!! You're awesome!

@꧁꧂lllxIIIxIII꧁꧂ who profits from them?

While I don’t even see the point of even replying, I will say this. No one...not one person is hindered from receiving the word of God as a result of cost. You can get them free at will. Most publishers have Bibles available for just a few dollars and several organizations will send you one at no cost to yourself. So what if a person of means wants to pay a little extra for a nice copy. The only thing that hinders people from getting the Bible is language and government control. Just enjoy the freedom we have in America. The end.

Prices start at $25.99 on Christianbook.

You mean the Thomas Nelson premier collection? I looked at that but it seemed a tad too large, I really like their personal size so I got a couple of those in genuine leather.

Thank you!!

Me too.

That would be an awesome Bible. They are reading the comments, so you never know. :-)

Thanks! I agree 100%. I've been asking for a KJV in the NKJV layout for many years. Maybe one day.

Thanks!

Thanks! I'll post yours here in the comments.

@@BibleBuyingGuide Oh, Wow! Thank you so much 🙏🏽 That's so nice of you, Randy! I greatly admire your reviews and they are a source of inspiration. I always learn something new watching your videos 👍

@@crucified4me thank you!!

Good question. I don't really know the answer. I do know that all of these design elements have been used before- just not together in one edition (that I'm aware of).

Bible page design/typesetting is murky waters. I’m not an expert in copyright law, but I would lean against layouts being copyrightable in general, just based on what I see in the market. What about readers editions? Center column editions? Thinlines? Layouts are taken by everyone already. While the Canterbury is novel, it is still a layout at the end of the day. That being said, Schuyler may have a case, since a): the Canterbury is but a few years old, not 25 or 50. b): it is a novel design overall without a historical equivalent I’m aware of c): the Thomas Nelson design is almost identical to the Schuyler design, and clearly takes inspiration from it But there are differences that will be used against Schuyler to show Thomas Nelson didn’t violate copyright. 1): Proverbs is single column 2): Concordance uses different drop caps 3): Different font used 4): Book introductions 5): Thomas Nelson’s more extensive use of red highlights So I don’t think Schuyler would get very far. The Sovereign Collection is clearly separate from the Canterbury. One can distinguish between the two layouts at a glance.

As an addendum to my other comment (edited, I thought about this more), The actions by Thomas Nelson seem inconsiderate, if indeed they just produced this without communicating with Evangelical Bible about it. What if those at Evangelical Bible wanted to make a drastic change to their business model, and produce lower price-point Canterbury editions? I'm not saying they would or wanted to, it actually seems like the opposite is true. But not asking first strikes me as being inconsiderate to Thomas Nelson's brothers at Evangelical Bible. It's important to be giving and graceful, including in the realm of business. Personally, I do not like what Thomas Nelson did. They delivered an inferior product while taking the combination of elements that makes the Canterbury’s design unique. By "inferior", I mean that the Sovereign collection doesn't seem like it will be scalable like the Canterbury is. I think this shorts those who love the Sovereign collection layout, since they won't get, say, a wide margin edition of it, or a portable size. (It does not seem like this design is copyrightable, but, in the rare event it is, EVB is at a disadvantage legally. Thomas Nelson is huge, being owned by HarperCollins, and has more money to spend on lawyers without crowdfunding.) The Sovereign _could_ hurt Schuyler financially, which, if I had to guess, is one reason why EVB is upset. The “wow factor” of the Canterbury has been undercut by Thomas Nelson in most people’s eyes. They may also be upset because they had a unique design that they put in more effort to produce, only for it to be basically copied by another company. The fact that Thomas Nelson is big only hurts more, as you feel like you’re being crushed by an elephant. I'm not saying these are valid reasons to be upset. To me though, Schuyler is a model publisher. Their typesetting model is great. They make a few fantastic layouts, then scale them up or down for different use cases. They avoid decision paralysis by doing this, and the scalability makes each edition better. Meanwhile Thomas Nelson adopts the policy of a new layout for each Bible, which I think is bad for the customer overall. The only reason I don’t have a Schuyler is because I’m not partial to their layouts.

Different font. Different drop caps. different concordance. Different maps. Different footprint. Standard TN footnotes, references and language helps. Standard TN chapter intros. Almost identical to a previous TN product, the gusnt print personal reference. So, yes, obviously a poor man's Canterbury, but no ground for a legal case in my opinion.

Yeah I don't think they have any leg to stand on legally. I get why they could be upset, but really, come on. They have carved out a niche for themselves where they sell premium Bibles for $200. That's all they do. This Bible has a different font, all of Thomas Nelson's USP features, it does not have art gilt, It has their own font. It has their own reference system. So if the only similarities are drop cap first letter, and references in the footer, so what? People who want premium options will still go to EVB to get it. This isn't stealing any customers away from them. Nor is it really copying their design.

Thank you!! I appreciate that very much!

The NKJV is coming in April. :-) www.christianbook.com/nkjv-personal-size-reference-sovereign-collection/9780785265344/pd/265345?event=Bibles|1002224

@@BibleBuyingGuide THANKS Randy.

Hi! Yes, I will be reviewing the wide margin.

@@BibleBuyingGuide Awesome! Thanks for the hard work you put in, it's a real blessing.

@@Mehcool thank you!!

I don't think they have plans for a large print. I'll confirm that to make sure.

The Canterbury is 11 point.

@@BibleBuyingGuide THANKS Randy. I have ordered a Canterbury after I found out it had 11 POINT font. Enjoy your channel muchly.

@@gleasonparker1684 thank you! I've been enjoying your comments very much.

Thank you!! I don't have anything online, but I'll try to record and post them.

It does get better with time.

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Fortunately, mine hasn't had this issue. Thanks for mentioning it so we'll know to look for it.

I'll see what I can do. Thanks for the suggestion!

Hi Leah. They do have the same paper.

@@BibleBuyingGuide thank you 😊

Get a journaling Bible. They are great!

This one is great for that.

@@BibleBuyingGuide Thank you my southern brother!

The only single column personal size that comes to mind is the Holman, but I haven't seen it myself, so I don't know if it has the margin space you want : www.christianbook.com/kjv-column-personal-size-bible-leather/9781087722160/pd/7722160?event=ESRCG

The Holman regular size is excellent and has a wide outer margin. It's not personal size, but it's not overlay large either: www.christianbook.com/kjv-single-column-margin-leather-brown/9781087767628/pd/767628?event=ESRCG

Thomas Nelson has one coming in November, but I don't know if it will have margin space: www.christianbook.com/kjv-size-single-reference-collection-goatskin/9780785295143/pd/295144?event=ESRCG

Excellent question. I'm more drawn to the Maclaren. The Sovereign is thicker and since it's short the overall feel is a bit chunky. The Maclaren is more balanced. Mostly, though, I'm drawn to the larger font of the Maclaren and I like that it has more references.

It's not PCE. It's closer to the 1769 Blayney, which was the last official update.

@@BibleBuyingGuide Thank you, i still went ahead and purchased this bible sometimes i believe if we think to much into it we are just making big issues over nothing. Thanks for your help

@@justinhenshaw1550 you're welcome! I agree. I like the way you think.

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Hmm. TN (Thomas Nelson) is in TN, but most of their Bibles are made in China. The wide-margin version of this Bible is made in India.

@@BibleBuyingGuide yeah it's fine. My mistake! It's not like my phone and other everyday items aren't made there! Plus I'm sure it's helping someone put food on the table and provide. We have many brothers and sisters there fighting the good fight. You never know the printing facility may be what leads someone there to Christ. All I can do is keep praying for our brothers and sisters who are in country's that persecute christians. Thank you for the review I hope you have a wonderful Christmas and happy new year!

@@A.V1611_BIBLEBELIEVER thank you! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you too!

They do look similar, but they are different typesetting and the pagination doesn't match. They use different fonts (Milo vs KJV Comfort Print) and the Sovereign adds footnotes, book introductions, different cross-references, and single-column Proverbs. The drop-cap is a different font, different size, and is offset differently. The cross-references in the Sovereign don't taper to the bottom of the page like the Canterbury.

@@BibleBuyingGuide gotcha. It's a poorman's Canterbury lol

No.